Day bang is straight up insidious, these girls never had a chance...

Had my third Mexican girl last night: check out her pic here.

Also the third girl to demand that we go back to her place. Is this a Mexican thing? In the states I rarely ever go back to the girls pad.

Extra weird because her roommates were there, and she had a friend staying over. 10 minutes after we banged the friend hopped right into the pussy/sweat moistened bed and went to sleep as I was gathering my things.

Not complaining too much though, most of the time I like to wake up and get my day started alone.

(07-26-2014 02:59 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Had my third Mexican girl last night: check out her pic here.

Also the third girl to demand that we go back to her place. Is this a Mexican thing? In the states I rarely ever go back to the girls pad.

Extra weird because her roommates were there, and she had a friend staying over. 10 minutes after we banged the friend hopped right into the pussy/sweat moistened bed and went to sleep as I was gathering my things.

Not complaining too much though, most of the time I like to wake up and get my day started alone.

Amen to waking up with a clean slate.

The only time I want a chick to stick around is if she's really turning me on. This usually means she has an awesome body or super pretty face, obviously.

(07-25-2014 06:10 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  

(07-25-2014 05:54 PM)Hans Dix Wrote:  Anyone know good litmus tests for screening a girl's relationship with her father?

I just say stuff like..

"where do your folks live"
"where do your parents live?"
"how are your parents"
"what do your parents do"
"Do you get along with your parents"
"How is your relationship with your mom"
"How is your relationship with your dad"
etc.

After that, I have a good idea about what direction to go in:

"Father Figure Game" - Fill the empty spaces left by her father;

She will crave attention, guidance, direction, discipline, etc. She will crave a masculine presence in her life. I take a position superior to her. I speak to her form a place of authority, the same way a father would. I correct her when she needs correcting, I advise her when she needs advising. I help her focus her life and get on a path towards success. This is what she wants, this is what she needs, she was just lacking some strong, male, adult leadership

Addressing these things as they relate specifically to her life will cause her to get emotional and connect with you. They crave masculine leadership in their lives.

"Older Man Fantasy Game" - Satisfy her curiosity and need for new, exciting experiences;

She has a good relationship with her father. She is fresh out of high school. She is away at college in the big city. What does she want? She wants fun and excitement. Now is her chance to experiment with sex and drugs and try all the things she has been fantasizing about since she was 12 or 13. Fucking an older man is often one of these fantasies.

I take a different tone with these girls. I don't speak to them in a fatherly manner like I would with the other girls. I present myself as a fun, cool, established older guy that can introduce her to the new experiences that she is looking for. I take them to downtown San Francisco for lunch and shopping. I often provide drugs and alcohol. Many times I pick them up at their dorm room and no one knows but her and I. I make the fantasy a reality!

I often dress better when I'm with these girls because it's all about the "cool, older guy vibe".

Its all about identifying and fulfilling her needs, wants, and desires.

Once you identify her needs, you can begin to address them in the best possible way.

Trust me, younger girls love older guys. It's taboo -- which makes them even more curious about it!!

*****

This is a re-post from this thread:

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21493-...#pid398511

Hans, way to ask a question I forgot I had.
I had this exact conversation with one of my oldest friends last weekend.
We've both stumbled into father figure roles with chicks but had no clue how to screen for those who are susceptible to it.

Gio.. fuck. If I could, i swear i might rate you everytime you post.
Excellent. Just fucking excellent.

Father Figure Game is the best... get to craft some malleable girl into your ideal mate. And whenever you eventually release her, you've done the world a solid by crafting someone who is pleasant to deal with and well behaved.
Its the most philanthropic game.
Helping every dude down the line immensely.

Its like charity. Should be a tax write off.

Need some help guy, things just no longer click for me anymore. Went out to salsa night on the borders of the Seine river, plenty of hot girls and tourists. Run usual dance game. If a dance is mutually enjoyable I ask the girl "oops its really hot in here you wanna go grab a drink? Its right over there"

One said she would prefer to stay. The other, a very cute Russian girl, said she is with her friends so we could maybe all go together. Fuck u bitch. I didnt get the number bc they are tourists and they leave in a few days.

Another one is local. She remembered me from a previous dance. IOI I suppose. We did 3 dances together and I really felt like its going well. She was with a bunch of Peruvian beta friends. Difficult logistic. I suggest we could go dancing together sometimes and get her number. She gave it to me but her body language was negative, facing away from me.

This is salsa so its a bad idea to escalate to kissing on the floor, thats why I always try to isolate and venue change. Sure I could just go for it, but if a girl who danced with me 2 months ago still remember my face, thats gonna be bad for reputation.

Why is it that when I start getting IOI from girls, I try to escalate and venue change, they turn 180 degree and shut down?

I sure didn't dress like a loser. Fitted vneck and slim jeans, with cuban heels to boost me up to 5"7 (girls here are quite short)

Or is it simply the acceptable approach rate? That's 0 date out of 3, 1 number.

Swedish girl in the works. Got the music goin'.

At a point where if I'm out at a park, waiting for the subway, or in any kind of non-rushed situation where there are girls, I feel like I'm being lazy if I don't try to get, or come away with at least one number.

Chatted with dude i always see at the gym yesterday, was gonna try and hit some bars with him and test for wingman potential.
He countered with a party invite.
Its some girls from his work throwing it...

He works at Hooters.

So I'm in a pretty good mood about my night's plans.

Moral of the story: Chat with everyone always. There are no bad connections.

Goldmund,

Are you taking these pics with the SLR or a cell phone cam? I feel like this is golden stuff with an SLR but am apprehensive about lugging the SLR around at night in a foreign country while drinking.

(07-26-2014 07:47 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Goldmund,

Are you taking these pics with the SLR or a cell phone cam? I feel like this is golden stuff with an SLR but am apprehensive about lugging the SLR around at night in a foreign country while drinking.

Yeah, I bring the SLR out with. Definitely more professional looking, and I have girls open me up every night when out with it..."are you a photographer?"

I also bring along a messenger bag for the pad and markers. When out in the streets, I stuff the camera into the bag so thieves don't get turned on.

The city I'm in is very safe though: no one locks their doors and there are people out everywhere 24/7.

Dalaran, shit happens man don't get inside your head.

My first night out in NYC I went something like 0/15. I got rejected everyway you can imagine. Girl walking off, I have a boyfriend, let's just be friends, etc. I also had a streak where I went out 8 nights in a row and brought back 8 girls, and banged 6 of them.

Sometimes it just is what it is. Have another beer, a sensible chuckle and say hi to the next one.

(07-26-2014 03:07 PM)soup Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 02:59 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  Had my third Mexican girl last night: check out her pic here.

Also the third girl to demand that we go back to her place. Is this a Mexican thing? In the states I rarely ever go back to the girls pad.

Extra weird because her roommates were there, and she had a friend staying over. 10 minutes after we banged the friend hopped right into the pussy/sweat moistened bed and went to sleep as I was gathering my things.

Not complaining too much though, most of the time I like to wake up and get my day started alone.

Amen to waking up with a clean slate.

The only time I want a chick to stick around is if she's really turning me on. This usually means she has an awesome body or super pretty face, obviously.

Agree there man, if I gotta 9 with me, I want a morning sesh. No better way to start the day.

(07-26-2014 08:14 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  

(07-26-2014 07:47 PM)MaleDefined Wrote:  Goldmund,

Are you taking these pics with the SLR or a cell phone cam? I feel like this is golden stuff with an SLR but am apprehensive about lugging the SLR around at night in a foreign country while drinking.

Yeah, I bring the SLR out with. Definitely more professional looking, and I have girls open me up every night when out with it..."are you a photographer?"

I also bring along a messenger bag for the pad and markers. When out in the streets, I stuff the camera into the bag so thieves don't get turned on.

The city I'm in is very safe though: no one locks their doors and there are people out everywhere 24/7.

Girls and there ridiculous questions:

"Are you a photographer?"

"No lady, this big that looks like a camera is just a necklace"

Met the sister of a good friend who is 19 and visiting from Argentina, very cute and feminine.

I was getting the vibe that she liked me and she was making a lot of eye contact with me while chatting during my friend's dinner birthday party until my friend (her brother) called us out on it in a playful but direct way "Hey bro, you're breaking the bro code".

She immediately was avoiding eye contact and felt awkward, I kinda brushed it off, changed topics and things got back to the same rhythm.

The amusing thing was during the whole dinner party, we talked about everything under the sun and not once did she mention her 2-year relationship with her boyfriend until my friend brought it up (he wanted to make sure she was off-limits, but I don't fuck friends' sisters or girlfriends) and even after mentioning him, she seemed reluctant to talk about him.

My questions to players here, is the fact that a girl will hide her boyfriend a strong indicator of interest or at least that she's open to have a tryst?
My gut tells me is she wanted some tourist sex with a familiar enough guy who could keep it private, so she would never mentioned her boyfriend.

(07-27-2014 01:11 PM)simondice Wrote:  My questions to players here, is the fact that a girl will hide her boyfriend a strong indicator of interest or at least that she's open to have a tryst?
My gut tells me is she wanted some tourist sex with a familiar enough guy who could keep it private, so she would never mentioned her boyfriend.

Whenever a girl does this, I attribute it to the thing that every single female in the world wants...just as much as we want sex...they want: ATTENTION.

(07-27-2014 01:18 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 01:11 PM)simondice Wrote:  My questions to players here, is the fact that a girl will hide her boyfriend a strong indicator of interest or at least that she's open to have a tryst?
My gut tells me is she wanted some tourist sex with a familiar enough guy who could keep it private, so she would never mentioned her boyfriend.

Whenever a girl does this, I attribute it to the thing that every single female in the world wants...just as much as we want sex...they want: ATTENTION.

I've been thinking about this a lot. PUA stuff emphasize that women want sex just as much as we do, even more. But recently I wonder if women just want attention and sex is optional.

A bunch of girls I know here keep a harem of betas but based on the frustration and white-knighting of those betas I doubt the girls fucked any of them. And since these are her main social circle I doubt she's having regular sex with some stranger that no one knows about.

   

Dalaran, I used to think the same but reading this book changed my views, Also the same women who are followed by tons on betas gets turned on by an Alpha. At this point just assume the sale and work on getting yourself better , you will see more and more women responding, single, engaged, married and what not.

Yes Women want attention but you as a player is going to give attention only in reward for good behavior i,e Sex.

Damn...shy girls are a whole nother game. Trying to crack this shy girl, got until next week. She's clearly nibbling. I'm going to go super direct on her now.

(07-27-2014 09:38 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  Damn...shy girls are a whole nother game. Trying to crack this shy girl, got until next week. She's clearly nibbling. I'm going to go super direct on her now.

Shy girls are awesome, as long as they stay with you, they'll open up. Plus, they are usually kinky as hell.

(07-27-2014 11:47 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 09:38 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  Damn...shy girls are a whole nother game. Trying to crack this shy girl, got until next week. She's clearly nibbling. I'm going to go super direct on her now.

Shy girls are awesome, as long as they stay with you, they'll open up. Plus, they are usually kinky as hell.

how do you bring that kinky side out of a shy girl

(07-28-2014 12:02 AM)Sketness Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 11:47 PM)simondice Wrote:  

(07-27-2014 09:38 PM)YoungDominican Wrote:  Damn...shy girls are a whole nother game. Trying to crack this shy girl, got until next week. She's clearly nibbling. I'm going to go super direct on her now.

Shy girls are awesome, as long as they stay with you, they'll open up. Plus, they are usually kinky as hell.

how do you bring that kinky side out of a shy girl

Be vague in your words, strong intent in your head and assertive in actions.

Shy girls are girls who like privacy, so you have to insinuate how you would keep shit between you two, and how you don't judge, so they know you are a guy who will give them what they need without broadcasting it to the world. Making statements of how you would never judge someone, and then changing topics.

Also you begin teasing them about random things and start misinterpreting things insinuating like she's the aggressor, "God, you keep looking at me like a piece of meat, my eyes are here" smirking. Don't be surprised she starts opening up and flirting openly with you.

Keep a dominant frame and lead, escalate in private. By fucking her a couple times rough, they become nymphos.

Part 2: +1 for Broda

Sorry for not posting this yesterday, got sidetracked and never got around to finishing the write up.

For those of you that may be wondering, how I get my chair around (it's powered not manual) I have a hitch on the back of my truck that has a ramp/platform combo on it for easy loading and unloading. I packed up my gear (tent, drinks (although I can't drink I bought for others), my guitar, medication all that) early on Friday, Fiona texts me that she's excited and can't wait. Text her a picture back of the stuff I packed and tell her to text when she's at Amy's.

Fast forward to a little before 7, get a text that she's there and they're all ready. Head over to Amy's and they're outside, pull up and they throw their stuff in the back and he head out. My buddy lives about 15 mins out of town so we're driving and they're talking about random shit until I hear Amy go "So.. where am I sleeping?" So my mind goes to #1 She assumes Fiona and I are sleeping together. Check. #2 Is she asking if there's room to sleep with us? or the more tame "where is my place to sleep." I evade the question a bit for now - figuring that my buddy would like to provide a place to sleep for this girl in his tent I simply say that we'll see when we get there.

We arrive at his place and he comes out to help unload. We're early (as I planned) because I thought that the easiest was to isolate these girls is to just be the 4 of us. Take the stuff to the back and Fiona and I are behind while Amy and my buddy are ahead. She turns to me and she goes "I think Amy's found a place to sleep *with an I see what you did smile*" I laugh and say "Get me a cat to pet and I can be an evil genius". She giggles and says that "I've got something you can pet alright..".

We start toset up, my tent has inflatable poles that hold the tent up so it's a breeze. After that we go inside, talk, they drink a bit, laughing all that. I see my buddy eye me so I say that I let's go check the tent and the two of us go out. The patio door closes and he asks pretty much the same thing Amy asked me in the truck, I say that she's all yours - that there's no way I'm getting cock blocked tonight. I tell him that she asked me in the truck and what I said back. I also say that I'm sure these girls know what's going on, they brought pillows but no tent or anything, they have no place of their own to sleep but they've gotta sleep somewhere. He asks info about Amy and I tell him I literally have no clue about her. We go back inside and Fiona and I get a few more things organized as my buddy and Amy sit on the couch. I can tell it's on between them and so can Fiona.

Fast forward a bit more, more people have arrived, pitched tents, bbq'd up some food and there's a good vibe. Talk to some friends that I haven't seen in a while, meet some of the people they made friends with at thier first year of uni (I had to miss this year to finish courses as I had to drop some due to medical) some good talent but I kept it tame, got a number from a girl that is going to the same one I'm going to at the end of August. We'll see where that goes. As I said in my intro thread I can't stay up very late as I don't feel well the next day, a little past 12:30 I decide to call it quits and go to the tent. Fiona follows me back and we go in.

I get in first and lay down, she comes in and gets on top of me. Make out insues as things begin to get "red hot", I take her top off, revealing a lacy purple bra, she grabs my hand and puts them on her tits as she unbuttons my shirt. Once that bra comes off it's my turn on top, I flip her over as the movement of the matress rustles the tent. I couldn't care less but she giggles and puts her finger to her mouth. I take her wrist and push her finger in her mouth and take it out slowly. She does that slow exhale - I'm sure you know what I'm taking about. I lift her legs up to her chest as I reach under her ass and start to pull off her yoga pants. Just past her knees and her ass falls back down towards my lap, she tries to reach to take my shorts off but I push her back down (I've noticed she likes when I'm more dominant) she bites her lip as I undo my belt and slip off my shorts. I move up a bit and she moves down, she starts to blow me as I'm fingering her and all I'm thinking is this is NOT where this ends tonight. I can feel her getting nice as wet so I reach with my other hand to my shorts, get out a condom and I hold it between two of my fingers and put in in front of her face. She gets those fuck me eyes and reaches up and unwraps it. I put it on and move down, +1 to McQueen about the post about positions - I hold her legs up to her chest and proceed to jack hammer her. The matress is moving with every thrust and of course rustling the tent. She doesn't seem to care anymore or at least doesn't seem to notice. There isn't a ton of room vertically but I go for a revised doggy style, not the easiest to do on an air matress in a tent but the instability was interesting to say the least. I'm close now and this is where things get semi humorous, last time I unloaded on her chest, this time I'm thinking same thing right? Wrong. I'm very close at this point and I pull off the condom. Then it hits me, I have nothing for her to clean herself up with. No other options really left at this point, or atleast none "came" to mind. I move up more as and grab her head - my thumb opens her mouth and just in time, I unload. The look she gave me could not be accurately described in words so the best I can do is say it was priceless. After I was done and I could actually think I said for her to not make a mess. (I figured maintaining the attitude I had of idgaf was my best option) She nods and then swallows. She says that I'm an asshole but she doesn't say it like she's actually mad, she says it like it was just unexpected. I don't really respond but I lay back down on the bed and she backs up to spoon me, not the most comfortable but whatever.

Wake up, emerge from the tent and it's just my buddy up that I see, sitting on his porch drinking coffee he sees me and starts a slow quiet clap as I walk over. I point and he gives the thumbs up. Nothing really much happens after that, pack up and head out. Take them home and relax for a bit, have a shower and then had some stuff to do the rest of the day.




TL;DR Went to bonfire/camp out on Friday, picked up girls according to plan. Arrived early, set up tent, intros. They drank and sat around the fire, played guitar. Late (for me) I went to the tent, Fiona followed. Parked chair under tent with just enough room for the mattress.

Zero LMR this time. Everything on her was new apparently (flowy purple top, yoga pants, lacy purple bra and a purple thong).

*Some interesting goodies if you took the time to read the whole thing*

Broda

The end one of the most beautiful days we've had in NYC. Middle of the summer and we get a refreshing spring temperature and low humidity.

Sent out a mass text to about 220 OKC leads.

3-4 girls told me to stop texting them.

A few others responded well, but said they were busy. Out of all those texts, I didn't get one date set up for tonight.

It's ok, I'll just keep on plugging away. I need a night to chill anyway, and there's always tomorrow. I got 3 new numbers from the website today.

My hippy chick girlfriend who moved away is texting me that she misses me that's nice.

This other super flaky chick who took these photos for me.. I erased her number but these pics keep inspiring me to text her, is in touch but she's saying she ain't available until August. I spoke to her on the phone a while back.. We'll see what happens next month.

Walked around 5th Ave Manhattan late afternoon Sat and Sunday and I saw about 500-1000 bangable chicks in a few hours. Maybe more. Even in the light rain early Sat there were dozens in any direction you could possibly look. Remember, girls visiting NYC are on 'vacation rules' - ONS with a guy they just met doesn't count...especially if they were drinking. Same goes for graduate/college girls up here for the summer at school or interning.

It also helps to have the logistics on lockdown, they need plausible deniability to their friends in some cases....'oh, we just watched a movie and passed out, I didn't have cabfare, etc etc bs'

And you're not really in a worse position if you are visiting too, just have a decent hotel room nearby and know about one cool place she doesn't know [she won't know any anyway].

Just got an invite to meet up with a chick and she's with her cousin and friend. I don't usually like this kind of situation but they are out drinking, I don't have any other options presently.

She looks like a party girl.. I think I'm gonna do it and see what's up even though it's a shlep and I'm tired.