I have a buddy who just got out of an LTR and we started winging last week. One night two different girls called him beautiful and one guy tried getting into a fight with him. Relaxed, natural good looking guy. Every set we opened hooked. I'd talk to the one girl as 3 other girls are cooing over him. Last week I approached a group of 6 girls, said my friend over there and I are partying and we all waltzed into the club in one minute as everyone on line grumbled.

It felt like cheat mode, all the girls just stopped what they were doing and listened. Guys were getting hyper aggressive. I saw the texts he was getting from these girls and it was the most basic shit in the world - like two 3rd graders talking, the girls were that into him off the bat.

Problem is he gets bored easily and wants to number farm. We'll be talking to some cute girls, then he'll squint a little and say to me, "Yo let's get the fuck out of here, these girls suck." I turn around and the girls have this look on their face like they just failed their math test

Soup, as usual, is right.

Example: I met a girl in a the lobby of my office building, while waiting for an elevator after lunch. She didn't work for the same company so it was on. Got her number after asking her about the wine she was bringing into the office.

She invited me out to Philharmonic at Central Park after work. Got the make out while waiting for a porta potty with her, but couldn't take her down that night, as she was with her roommate and lived in Brooklyn. 5 days later I got the bang on the first date, after ordering takeout(Pio Pio, Peruvian chicken, greasy but good and the green sauce is the bomb) at my pad.

This kind of stuff is the norm in NYC. Girls in the city are pretty open to meeting dudes during the day if you make the right read and approach. If you come correct you are doing them a favor by breaking up the monotony of their standard work day.

(06-30-2014 03:27 PM)soup Wrote:  NYC is built for the type of sexual transactions that are becoming popular these days.

I wonder how many other places can compare as far opportunities and logistics go. It's seeminlgy endless here if you know what to look for.

Haha lots of fun NYC stories on this thread.

Slubu, Goldmund, and I were chilling out at a fun Bastille Day party last Sunday at the SIXTY hotel rooftop in the LES. Slubu and I were beat from a busy weekend but Goldmund brought the energy(along with his cool hat) and was making good approaches and having a blast.

We started chatting up this cute girl. He's wearing this bandaid to cover the hickey he got a few hours prior at a World Cup party, haha.

Both Slubu and I have had to wear splints on our hands for the past few months. He had the boxer's fracture and I had boxer's knuckle (torn sagittal band tendon). A minute into the approach, the convo goes down like this:

Girl: How did you mess up your hand, Clint?
Clint: A fight.
Girl: Wow really?
Clint: Yeah, really.
Girl: How bout you, Slubu? What happened to your hand?
Slubu: A fight.
Girl: [laughs in disgust and walks away without saying anything]

Me and Slubu pause for a second, and start laughing. We are so beat that we peace out from a party that had lots of girls, at 8:30pm.

Goldmund - did we miss anything at the party? Sorry I bounced early man I was hurting from all the weekend festivities.

I got elderly chat today at my local mechanic store
Roosh's stuff is golden.

@Clint yeah that was a good time. That fucking bitch at the world cup vampired my neck, it was such a pain this last week to have to deal with a hickey.

I'm getting burnt out these days. Partly due to some lack of success recently in terms of ONS, which I don't know why I harp on so much. Glad I have a vacation coming up, have two leads I'm going to try and close out this week before I take off. One Austrian, one Persian.

Also these hangovers are killing me, I'm not that young anymore. That, coupled with the facts that 1) daygame costs nothing, and 2) daygame girls are higher aesthetic quality...I'm sensing a change coming for me.

Of course I say this and then I'll have one drink and flirt with a girl at night and jump right back into the night time festivities. Such is the allure of night game.

There are so many reasons to not hit up clubs on the weekends, and just as many reasons to run game in the day or on the street instead.

There really needs to be more of a buffer.. It's very difficult to open a chick in directly inside clubs without dealing with a barrage of shit tests.

Those same girls are much easier if you open then outside of the thunderdome.

The inside of the club is great if you have your high status on display- center of attention in the dance floor, promoter, Dj, bartender, etc.

If you aren't coming off as high status there, you will look thirsty by association; the fact that you are surrounded by desperate guys without a way to non-verbally demonstrate your value knocks you down a few points.

(07-21-2014 08:15 AM)soup Wrote:  Those same girls are much easier if you open then outside of the thunderdome.

Is this because it doesn't happen as often?

That's probably part of it. Less competition makes you literally stand out more from the crowd.

It's also quiter, so any value that you'd have to demonstrate verbally can actually be heard without having to yell.

It's also a little more mysterious or romantic I think.

I'm not saying inside-the-club game is dead- you can kill it you are the center of attention, but patio areas, outside the club, or in the street can also be great areas to do your thing.

Also it's because those same girls have don't have the same bitch shield built up when they are out and about during regular daytime hours living their regular lives. Once they enter the "Thunderdome" all glammed up their defenses are sky-high and the hoops the average guy has to jump through aren't worth the aggravation many times.

The club for some chicks is like TV show "Shark Tank" where guys vie for their attention and whoever has the best product/grab their attention MIGHT get a shot, but usually not without a lot of tests/cockblocks/hoops

When you run up on one of these cuties @ the grocery store, in the line at the post office, or walking her dog she will be much more perceptive, and attentive.

Plus she won't have her cockblock crew to put on a show for

I disagree on some points soup.

You don't look thirsty by association, unless you have the presence, demeanour, and approach of those thirsty dudes.

Approach her from behind and trying to grind? Not making eye contact and shoulders slumped forward? Dressed with the same as everyone else? Not confident or calibrated enough to engage her emotional buttons by being physical? Asking her the same questions and being logical as she is so used to as opposed to engaging her emotions in the moment?

Acting that way will label you as the same as other guys.

Now I don't dress very different from the pack actually. However I dress very comfortable to me, simple but well fitting clothes. If I approach from behind, I tap her on the shoulder 3 times and wait till she turns before I make some physical approach by putting my hand out or pulling her in confidently and spinning her if I'm on the dance floor. If I'm talking, less can be more and I prefer statements over questions and look for what engages her most and vibe off that.

It's stuff we already know. But it's definitely a reminder that playing our game right we are definitely not coming off as another sheep. At the very least you are coming off as a top 20% guy which is all you need initially.

On another note, cool podcast by danger and play today. Talks about women's bored and anxious nature and how we can best adapt to that http://www.dangerandplay.com/2014/07/20/game-podcast/

I'm not saying club game is dead.. I'm just saying that you can get with just as hot girls without dealing with as much attitude as they usually have in a club. Same girl in and out of the club can be like two completely different personalities.

The world is the club.

My thoughts as well.

Sometimes I find myself saying under my breath 'too bad she didn't meet me during the day' when a cute girl I approached didn't hook because she'd rather spend time with her friends/got pulled away or something.

But then the positive behind club game is that you can rack up more approaches in that timeframe than anywhere else. And fast escalation.

(07-20-2014 10:29 PM)Clint Barton Wrote:  Haha lots of fun NYC stories on this thread.

Slubu, Goldmund, and I were chilling out at a fun Bastille Day party last Sunday at the SIXTY hotel rooftop in the LES. Slubu and I were beat from a busy weekend but Goldmund brought the energy(along with his cool hat) and was making good approaches and having a blast.

We started chatting up this cute girl. He's wearing this bandaid to cover the hickey he got a few hours prior at a World Cup party, haha.

Both Slubu and I have had to wear splints on our hands for the past few months. He had the boxer's fracture and I had boxer's knuckle (torn sagittal band tendon). A minute into the approach, the convo goes down like this:

Girl: How did you mess up your hand, Clint?
Clint: A fight.
Girl: Wow really?
Clint: Yeah, really.
Girl: How bout you, Slubu? What happened to your hand?
Slubu: A fight.
Girl: [laughs in disgust and walks away without saying anything]

Me and Slubu pause for a second, and start laughing. We are so beat that we peace out from a party that had lots of girls, at 8:30pm.

Goldmund - did we miss anything at the party? Sorry I bounced early man I was hurting from all the weekend festivities.

Ha. That party...

Remember the suited up Indian dude? He had this weird obsession with me and thought I was an actor. I told him to "find the most beautiful girls in the place and bring them over, they might recognize me from the TV."

And he bought it! Brought over three really hot girls and told them I was famous. The photographer there must have taken my picture 30 different times with all sorts of girls.

I ended up getting the number from that hottie who was making crepes...she was my favorite. Didn't want to leave her friends though.

Ended up grabbing two chicks from the place and going to see Soup play guitar...the man has talent. Serious talent.

Those two chicks left and then two Romanian girls that were supposed to come meet showed up. Funny thing is that me and soup completely ignored the girls...we were too busy telling stories and laughing with the bartender. The only time we paid them any attention was to make fun of them when they requested that the air conditioning be turned off.

Soup and I bounced to another dive in the LES with a flamboyant bartender who kept the free drinks coming. Soup busted out the guitar again and played while a soul sistah with some great pipes sang along. There was much rejoicing until the wee hours of the morning.

No bang, but it was definitely one of the most enjoyable nights of the summer.

(07-21-2014 12:20 PM)Goldmund Wrote:  

(07-20-2014 10:29 PM)Clint Barton Wrote:  Haha lots of fun NYC stories on this thread.

Slubu, Goldmund, and I were chilling out at a fun Bastille Day party last Sunday at the SIXTY hotel rooftop in the LES. Slubu and I were beat from a busy weekend but Goldmund brought the energy(along with his cool hat) and was making good approaches and having a blast.

We started chatting up this cute girl. He's wearing this bandaid to cover the hickey he got a few hours prior at a World Cup party, haha.

Both Slubu and I have had to wear splints on our hands for the past few months. He had the boxer's fracture and I had boxer's knuckle (torn sagittal band tendon). A minute into the approach, the convo goes down like this:

Girl: How did you mess up your hand, Clint?
Clint: A fight.
Girl: Wow really?
Clint: Yeah, really.
Girl: How bout you, Slubu? What happened to your hand?
Slubu: A fight.
Girl: [laughs in disgust and walks away without saying anything]

Me and Slubu pause for a second, and start laughing. We are so beat that we peace out from a party that had lots of girls, at 8:30pm.

Goldmund - did we miss anything at the party? Sorry I bounced early man I was hurting from all the weekend festivities.

Ha. That party...

Remember the suited up Indian dude? He had this weird obsession with me and thought I was an actor. I told him to "find the most beautiful girls in the place and bring them over, they might recognize me from the TV."

And he bought it! Brought over three really hot girls and told them I was famous. The photographer there must have taken my picture 30 different times with all sorts of girls.

I ended up getting the number from that hottie who was making crepes...she was my favorite. Didn't want to leave her friends though.

Ended up grabbing two chicks from the place and going to see Soup play guitar...the man has talent. Serious talent.

Those two chicks left and then two Romanian girls that were supposed to come meet showed up. Funny thing is that me and soup completely ignored the girls...we were too busy telling stories and laughing with the bartender. The only time we paid them any attention was to make fun of them when they requested that the air conditioning be turned off.

Soup and I bounced to another dive in the LES with a flamboyant bartender who kept the free drinks coming. Soup busted out the guitar again and played while a soul sistah with some great pipes sang along. There was much rejoicing until the wee hours of the morning.

No bang, but it was definitely one of the most enjoyable nights of the summer.

That was funny- the bartender essentially told the girls to go fuck off.. they were complaining about how the AC was too strong where they were. So he pointed out they were standing in the part of the bar where the AC was strongest and that he wasn't going to turn it out down.

It was a hilarious real life example of the kind of girls' entitlement we talk about on the forum.

Yes- everyone was vibing off of you that night. The bartender at the second place was thought you were some kind of mysterious latin-lover type. Good Charisma game.

How cocky is too cocky? I've had girls respond to it very well or hate me for it. No middle ground.

(07-21-2014 02:20 PM)simondice Wrote:  How cocky is too cocky? I've had girls respond to it very well or hate me for it. No middle ground.

Calibrate it for each situation.

Setting or girl?

Both. Calibrate for whatever the situation is.

(07-21-2014 02:23 PM)simondice Wrote:  Setting or girl?

Social value.

Yeah, for instance...at a loud club with American girls...I'll be a cocky bastard cos it gets results.

At a more intimate place, like where soup plays guitar or a lounge, turn it down a bit and play confident/interesting and results are better.

I'm at an airport now and running 'gentlemanly and curious' game and having fun. Definitely not cocky. Although there aren't many hot girls passing through Houston now...

Takes practice finding the vibe.

(07-21-2014 08:15 AM)soup Wrote:  There are so many reasons to not hit up clubs on the weekends, and just as many reasons to run game in the day or on the street instead.

There really needs to be more of a buffer.. It's very difficult to open a chick in directly inside clubs without dealing with a barrage of shit tests.

Those same girls are much easier if you open then outside of the thunderdome.

The inside of the club is great if you have your high status on display- center of attention in the dance floor, promoter, Dj, bartender, etc.

If you aren't coming off as high status there, you will look thirsty by association; the fact that you are surrounded by desperate guys without a way to non-verbally demonstrate your value knocks you down a few points.

I am on a similar vibe now. I will usually hit up a coffee shop in my area or in central town and get a number or an interaction and push for the date later. A lot of times though, if I am going out I will go through the hoop and meet up with her at one place. Usually if I feel it is on but at this point, I have plenty of direct options in my environment.

This will usually be one night a week though, as it is winter and I don't enjoy missioning too much. Neither do a lot of girls, it's good for maintaining multiple 'relationships'.

I will admit though, I have been a bit 'lazier' recently and not been going out as much as I normally do. My interactions have become more sniper-like, I have been putting in minimal effort and getting a lot out. Plenty of new numbers, interactions and lays from normal day game mixed with a hybrid of night game.

On nights where my buddies are DJing or I am on a guestlist I will roll up and use night game and it's fun but the results have remained the same if not decreasing slightly (winter = more LTRs).

This airport is a bit dry on the poon today.

I'm sitting at a bar now...gonna get a little drunk and then walk around some more and hit on whatever.

Getting blown out in Houston. An old 80 year old guy AMOGD me at the bar. but thats alright. And then another girl I attempted to open told me she had a husband...shiiit, is it that obvious?

I feel like you should be in Austin, but then it'll be like you never left Brooklyn.

Last sunday I tried to game a girl I knew beforehand. I was so hammered I didnt recognize her. Did not go very well