Post: #451

^ It sounds like you had zero sex or escalation on your first 2 dates so she was in no hurry to bend over backwards(literally or in her schedule) for a third date. If you had smashed her good on the second date she might have responded differently "I have an event so if we meet this evening it will have to be later than we originally planned" or some such.

Go for logistics. I would suggest trying to get her to come straight to your place since you have already been out with her twice. If your phone game is better than your text game, I would suggest trying to get her on the phone. just say "hey are you around, can I call?" and then invite her over.

Post: #452

(05-04-2014 07:00 AM)Flint Wrote:  Met this girl (7.5/10) twice. First date went well but no kiss-close, second date was so-so because she brought a friend along and behaved inhibited.

Yesterday we were supposed to meet but she flaked 30 minutes before the appointment with a lame excuse. The conversation went like this:

Me: Shoot me a text once you're finished with work.
Her: Ok, but it won't be until 21.00 I think. Maybe 20.00.
Me: k

That was around mid-day. Later in the evening I wrote her again:

Me: So, how is your work going? Wanna meet at 21.00 in the centre?
Her: I was about to text you, the thing is one of my best friends is coming back to town and I have to go see him. Do you think we can meet some time next week?

Me: Unsubscribe.
Her: Excuse me?

I didn't answer that text but some hours later she wrote me:

hey Flint, I'm really sorry I couldn't come tonight, it was really short notice and I couldn't miss the event. I understand your reaction and it's your right... just to let you know: it was no excuse, but something important and I really had to be there.

That was yesterday and I'm considering writing back, but what?

Try to write it off with playfulness. Ask her to bring wine and movie so you can both watch it at your place.

If you can't set up the date at your place do it at a bar near your crib. Say the drinks will be on her when you meet at the bar. Bring her back to your place and bang.

Post: #453

Went on a date with a girl on Tuesday, in my opinion it went really well. We kissed in the end. She said cya later when leaving.

We made a bet during the date who has to pay breakfast and I lost the bet. (It was about a beer if it was vegan)

Texted her yesterday: Breakfast Saturday?
She replied today: Most likely not.

I've got no idea what to say next. Any help is appreciated.

Edit: What about "Dinner and your chance to win at Four Connect it is then."
(We played that game.)

Post: #454

This is with a girl from my uni who recently seems to have developed in interest in me. She and I have been texting rather frequently lately. I was supposed to go out on a date with her today but I actually flaked myself (by accident, I totally overslept because I got so fucking wasted the night before).

It's early in the evening now and she and I have been texting on and off again. Now after a short period of silence from my side, she texted this:

her: "I'm bored to death."

me: "So what are we going to do about it?"

her: "I don't know at all. I've been trying to work on homework but mehhh."

me: "Same. I'm tired of this shit. I need someone to distract me from it."

her: "Yeah."

me: "I could come over."

her: "That's okay. I'll go to bed in 2 hours anyway."


That last text, I have no idea how I should interpret that. Is this a clear hint that she wants the D or is this a hint that she doesn't want to meet up right now? Is it a shit test or not?

Post: #455

^Never Suggest. Always Lead.

Instead of saying, "I could come over", should have said this: "I'll be over in a few"

Girls want to be led.

In response to that, I would just ignore her. She'll probably send another text.

Thing is is you don't want to be caught up in text hell just because a girl is bored and is looking for a distraction. Always be busy, doing something (at least in the appearance to her) and keep it short.

Post: #456

^You could also respond with: "

relax sunshine I'm bringing you a bedtime story to tuck u in with"

Post: #457

Solid advice from Christian McQueen as usual. I'll try to be more assertive next time.

I always find it difficult with texting to find the sweet spot between being assertive and overwhelming. With text it's always easy to misinterpret what you or the other said. I don't want to appear needy nor do I want to overwhelm her. It happened to me before, where I basically overwhelmed a chick by being too forceful or too pushy, which scared her off and made her flake or simply drop contact altogether.

Maybe I should just give her a call and try to set something up over the phone rather than through text?

Post: #458

Gents,

Trying to hold frame, chick finds me on POF says "You're funny, I like you...lol. We should hang out" proceeded by screen shot

bio says i love spontaneity

I'm a bit suspicious could be troll job or catfish, or something else. Since typically girls don't message first, and are that up front. I'm hoping its a quick DTF tonight.

She seems to not want to go to place I told her to meet me "but I've already been there" sounds odd to say.

Problem:

Need to hold frame, want to keep my plans at the bar or local to me, logistically speaking the bar is a 2 min drive from house.

No trying to scare the cat, I don't want to come off as thirst either. I'm not calling her, I'm texting because I'm at work.

Post: #459

(05-09-2014 04:09 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Gents,

Trying to hold frame, chick finds me on POF says "You're funny, I like you...lol. We should hang out" proceeded by screen shot

bio says i love spontaneity

I'm a bit suspicious could be troll job or catfish, or something else. Since typically girls don't message first, and are that up front. I'm hoping its a quick DTF tonight.

She seems to not want to go to place I told her to meet me "but I've already been there" sounds odd to say.

Problem:

Need to hold frame, want to keep my plans at the bar or local to me, logistically speaking the bar is a 2 min drive from house.

No trying to scare the cat, I don't want to come off as thirst either. I'm not calling her, I'm texting because I'm at work.

How old is she? Check her number on WhitePage and see if it's from GoogleVoice. See if her number links you to her FB or Instagram if you think it's catfish.

Suggest another bar near your place then venue change and bounce back?

Meet somewhere closer to her then bounce? Chicks are usually more agreeable once they have alcohol in their system

Post: #460

(05-09-2014 05:06 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 04:09 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Gents,

Trying to hold frame, chick finds me on POF says "You're funny, I like you...lol. We should hang out" proceeded by screen shot

bio says i love spontaneity

I'm a bit suspicious could be troll job or catfish, or something else. Since typically girls don't message first, and are that up front. I'm hoping its a quick DTF tonight.

She seems to not want to go to place I told her to meet me "but I've already been there" sounds odd to say.

Problem:

Need to hold frame, want to keep my plans at the bar or local to me, logistically speaking the bar is a 2 min drive from house.

No trying to scare the cat, I don't want to come off as thirst either. I'm not calling her, I'm texting because I'm at work.

How old is she? Check her number on WhitePage and see if it's from GoogleVoice. See if her number links you to her FB or Instagram if you think it's catfish.

Suggest another bar near your place then venue change and bounce back?

Meet somewhere closer to her then bounce? Chicks are usually more agreeable once they have alcohol in their system

Negatory, not a google number. Realized she's got a kid, big ass tits but a bit chub prolly 6. I said fuck it and just called the number, heard dudes in the background (something just seemed off about the call and the way the phone sounded when she picked up)

Hey Amanda
Whose This
Kaotic
Oh I told you to call me not text me, I'm already doing something right now, call me back later.
-I hangup, don't even respond-
Text back " lol lameee..."

Looked like she was either just trolling and fucking with people with her friends. Best case she was looking for an asap dtf, but im nowhere near home and at work.

Already texted back ups and got another number off OKC.

Guess you gotta be in the right place at the right time, but honestly my gut was telling me something wasn't right, and it wasn't the adrenaline pumping either.

Live and learn !

Post: #461

No.
She was just lookin for validation.
She made u jump through too many hoops....and never gave anything in return.

See, always remember this Kaotic ( especially with chicks you don't know, and doubly more so for girls who approach you first/weirdballs/unfeminine/post wall/over 30 chicks.....

Treat them with a bit of circumspection when they ask you to do something,even the slightest. Dont say no directly, but avoid, delay, obfuscate, tease and confuse. Get her to do something for you instead, however small and take it forward from there.

If she willingly concedes to your frame, shes genuinely interested in you.

Subtle power tactics, not exactly roxket science but extremely useful.

Post: #462

Context: Three days in three weeks with over 1,000 texts exchanged. Got the farthest in the first date, with some fingering but insurmountable (for me, probably not for you players) LMR. Got less far the next two dates. Texting less frequent too. She goes out of town for a week, doesn't text me until she's back for two days saying hey, did I see you at X coffee shop?

I realize maybe I stopped gaming because I thought she was really into me/pursuing me around date one (and frankly before the LMR, I thought I was out of her league). So I give it a solid 3 days and say, yeah that was me. what's up? Nothing back since. It's been about 3 more days.

What's an idea for a solid restart text? I think maybe something more sexual? I was much more forward earlier when things were going better.

Also, I should mention, this is a smart Jewish girl from a good background.

Post: #463

(05-09-2014 10:57 PM)flavoraddict Wrote:  Context: Three days in three weeks with over 1,000 texts exchanged. Got the farthest in the first date, with some fingering but insurmountable (for me, probably not for you players) LMR. Got less far the next two dates. Texting less frequent too. She goes out of town for a week, doesn't text me until she's back for two days saying hey, did I see you at X coffee shop?

I realize maybe I stopped gaming because I thought she was really into me/pursuing me around date one (and frankly before the LMR, I thought I was out of her league). So I give it a solid 3 days and say, yeah that was me. what's up? Nothing back since. It's been about 3 more days.

What's an idea for a solid restart text? I think maybe something more sexual? I was much more forward earlier when things were going better.

Also, I should mention, this is a smart Jewish girl from a good background.

Eject.

Eject.

Eject.

That's insane. Over 1,000 texts exchanged?

Hell to the motherfuckin no.

Flirt - Logistics - Setup Meet

If after the FIRST meet she's not responding well to your texts, or initiating texts, than move on.

You should already have other prospects so you shouldn't even be thinking about this.

Take my 30 Approaches in 30 Days Challenge. That's only 1 a day. I can guarantee, you'll have at least 3-4 contacts to work on after a month.

Remember gents, you can lead a girl to your cock, but you can't make her suck it. Move on.

Post: #464

Thanks CMQ. I probably should have cut her off but it seemed just polite to respond. She was asking me loads of questions and telling me about her day.

I've got other prospects - a girl coming over tomorrow night to cook dinner. I just liked this present girl the best - she seemed like girlfriend material (which is what I'm looking for). I do understand though that the best way to find a high quality gf is from a place of abundance. I just forget that simple point a lot.

Thanks again. Moving on.

Post: #465

(05-09-2014 08:26 PM)Sharkie Wrote:  No.
She was just lookin for validation.
She made u jump through too many hoops....and never gave anything in return.

See, always remember this Kaotic ( especially with chicks you don't know, and doubly more so for girls who approach you first/weirdballs/unfeminine/post wall/over 30 chicks.....

Treat them with a bit of circumspection when they ask you to do something,even the slightest. Dont say no directly, but avoid, delay, obfuscate, tease and confuse. Get her to do something for you instead, however small and take it forward from there.

If she willingly concedes to your frame, shes genuinely interested in you.

Subtle power tactics, not exactly roxket science but extremely useful.

UPDATE: I deleted her number send her a message calling her out simply on POF, She immediately calls me, we meet up at 8:30, I pick her and drive a quarter mile to a local bar (my friends house is about a mile, so I could've ejected if need be)

She's curvy, short, BIG ASS TITS, bummer horrible scars on one arm from some accident, all the guys at the bar were staring at her, even a dude creeped and took a pic, saw me stare him down with a smirk on my face, he later comes up and compliments my button up kissing my ass, thinking i was going to scrap him. All the dudes couldn't help but stare, I was just laughing the entire time lol.

Anyways we grab a few drinks, eject from the bar, demands she smoke in my car, i told her to fuck off, and i grab some tall cans head to my house, play drinking games, get her topless......then shit becomes weird. The drunker she got the more shit she told me....

Allegedly, she danced for a little bit and was also an escort, oh and she has a kid and is divorced. Also threw out she was married to a Hell's Angles member and then dated a prospect.

Her hamster goes into full overdrive and all im doing sucking on tits, I eject, dump her at home.

Honestly felt like a waste of time, should've ejected after the bar and hungout with my friend.

TL;DR went to a bar and all I got to do was suck on some titties. Waste of time.

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Post: #466

Texting with girl from Tinder I thought I recognized...

Tinder girl: Hey you seem like a cool guy. And you look like someone I've met before, but I recently met someone else who is much closer to my age (note: she is maybe 3 years younger than me). It's sweet that you want to meet up, but I don't think it's best.
Me: (ignoring all that other bullshit) I thought we were close in age.
Her: I'm (age). As long as it's just coffee I wouldn't mind meeting up as long as their are no other expectations beyond conversation between us.

Obviously, I could give a shit if she is my friend, but my instinct is that she is telling me not to sleep with her, because she is tempted. I've had girls tell me to change my intention because they couldn't handle their own self control before. Plus, those are long messages for a guy who hasn't texted much back. That "it's sweet" line makes me want to sacrifice her anal virginity to an ancient blood god, though.

I'm not sure if it's worth the time to turn this around, but the hunter in me wants to for fun. Once the goal is blown (like it kind of is here), I get to try and say anything because it doesn't matter. Suggestions?

Post: #467

(05-10-2014 04:20 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  Texting with girl from Tinder I thought I recognized...

Tinder girl: Hey you seem like a cool guy. And you look like someone I've met before, but I recently met someone else who is much closer to my age (note: she is maybe 3 years younger than me). It's sweet that you want to meet up, but I don't think it's best.
Me: (ignoring all that other bullshit) I thought we were close in age.
Her: I'm (age). As long as it's just coffee I wouldn't mind meeting up as long as their are no other expectations beyond conversation between us.

Obviously, I could give a shit if she is my friend, but my instinct is that she is telling me not to sleep with her, because she is tempted. I've had girls tell me to change my intention because they couldn't handle their own self control before. Plus, those are long messages for a guy who hasn't texted much back. That "it's sweet" line makes me want to sacrifice her anal virginity to an ancient blood god, though.

I'm not sure if it's worth the time to turn this around, but the hunter in me wants to for fun. Once the goal is blown (like it kind of is here), I get to try and say anything because it doesn't matter. Suggestions?

In my experience, the "you're sweet" or "it's sweet" is a bright red flag marking the friend zone.

However, if you actually meet up with her you can just turn your game up a notch and get the conversion. It's not like there's anything to lose. Hail Marys are hella more fun than short slants.

Post: #468

Agreed, friendzonish. Does sound like she's tempted because she still wants to meet.

Post: #469

(05-10-2014 04:35 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Agreed, friendzonish. Does sound like she's tempted because she still wants to meet.

Well, little invested so far. I dropped a "I don't want to be friends." That'll probably end it, but it'll get interesting if it doesn't.

Post: #470

Texts this as a restart text to an old tinder match. "Love is patient. Love is kind. Love is better from behind."

Got this in the reply - "?"

Post: #471

(05-10-2014 06:10 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

(05-10-2014 04:35 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Agreed, friendzonish. Does sound like she's tempted because she still wants to meet.

Well, little invested so far. I dropped a "I don't want to be friends." That'll probably end it, but it'll get interesting if it doesn't.

Smart.

Always discount yourself from being a friend.

You have to instantly make it known that your time is valuable and if she wants a coffee buddy, shopping partner, or shoulder to cry on, that you're not the man for it.

If she wants her pussy fucked 29 ways from Friday, then you are the right man.

I honestly think that girls use this as a shittest because I've gotten it many times before and one of two things happens:

1. She folds and gets sexual.

2. We never talk again.

Either way I win, because my time isn't wasted.

Post: #472

(05-10-2014 06:20 PM)dancingjohn Wrote:  Texts this as a restart text to an old tinder match. "Love is patient. Love is kind. Love is better from behind."

Got this in the reply - "?"

Not interested, move one. I'd personally go for something funnier. Then escalate it sexually.

Post: #473

I just got thrown off by a rather aggressive text from a prospect. Not the same chick as before, another one this time.

The story:

I went to a party at my uni last Thursday. I invited this lizard to come with me as my special guest (she doesn't go to the same uni as me but every student from my uni was allowed to take one extra person with him/her). My plan was to get some alcohol in her and then from there take her to my crib. She declined and said she didn't feel like going (at least she was honest about it and didn't make up excuses).

On Friday she texted me asking me if I enjoyed myself at the party. I tried to tease her and said the party was amazing and she missed out and she should have been there. This is what happened:

she: "ohhhh really? Tell me about it!"

me: "The music was really good and everyone on the dance floor seemed horny. One cute lil' chick decided to dry hump me and grind my cock. Of course I rewarded her good behavior by giving this girl the night of her life. That girl could have been you, but you weren't there. Too bad."

she: "Amazing, I can't believe how much I've missed! Boy do I wish I was there!"

*2 min later*

she: "Next time come up with a more interesting story please."


I'm really thrown off by this. Did she just lost all interest in me or is this a shit test? Do you think she's jealous or does she just not believe my story? Mind you that my story wasn't a lie, but this chick here barely knows me and I haven't banged her yet, so maybe she thinks I'm lying.

What should I do? Go cold on her, continue spinning plates and try to reboot with this chick in a few weeks? Or should I send a witty reply back somewhere next week?

Post: #474

Wow please tell me that wasn't your reply? I am not a text master but the reply should have been short and left her thinking, not a recap of the night.
Your story sounds too try hard and contrived.
Her: how was the party?
You: great!
Her: oh really tell me more?
You then go radio silent or text her a couple hours later or the next day.

She would have gone crazy and would have 100 thoughts going through her head.
Your reply did not keep her guessing.

Post: #475

(05-11-2014 09:52 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Wow please tell me that wasn't your reply? I am not a text master but the reply should have been short and left her thinking, not a recap of the night.
Your story sounds too try hard and contrived.
Her: how was the party?
You: great!
Her: oh really tell me more?
You then go radio silent or text her a couple hours later or the next day.

She would have gone crazy and would have 100 thoughts going through her head.
Your reply did not keep her guessing.

You're right. I guess I tried a little too hard to knock this bitch off her pedestal and by showing her that if she isn't there I can easily find others (I barely know her but she seemed like the kind of girl who believes she can make any man go exclusive with her because she's "special", well, not me!).