At Buffalo WW. All dudes here for the game. The waitresses are young. Mine is a little young white girl with a perfect bubble butt. Said she loved my pants. We will see what's up. I see a little gut so she probably dropped a baby.

Starting to get away from women with kids. I cant seem to keep them on the team. Children are the biggest cockblock. Had two today that couldnt kick it because of the kids. Little assholes.

(09-19-2013 08:34 PM)TexasMade Wrote:  At Buffalo WW. All dudes here for the game. The waitresses are young. Mine is a little young white girl with a perfect bubble butt. Said she loved my pants. We will see what's up. I see a little gut so she probably dropped a baby.

Starting to get away from women with kids. I cant seem to keep them on the team. Children are the biggest cockblock. Had two today that couldnt kick it because of the kids. Little assholes.

The good thing about chicks with kids is that you can usually keep them on a simple schedule due to their babysitting/work schedules. I got one that can only come to my place on thursday, which works great for me.

Speaking of her, I just lied to her telling her I was sick so I could stay in and finally have a day to myself. I've been running hard the last week and need some time off.

Anyone know much about Spanish girls (i.e from Spain) in US? For some reason I thought they'd be a bit easier...I went out with one and she wouldn't even let me kiss her on the mouth...wtf. I chalk it up to bad game on my part and waiting too long, but who knows.

I was on the ferry with my buddies a few days ago, and I saw this tall, slender Asian girl with a above average face (she wasn't crazy beautiful) taking pics on her iphone.

Went up to her and asked her what she was shooting. Turns out she's from Korea. I let her know about my music and gave her a business card where she could check my stuff out. Got her number.

Texted her that day but didn't hear back.

Then I texted her about one of my shows. Didn't hear back.

She shows up at the show, by herself. Turns out that her phone wasn't taking texts. She had looked me up and saw that I was playing that night.

As a musician/promoter, it's great to have girls on their own hanging out at the bar to watch you.

I go up and say hi with hug. Chatting and I'm doing light touches etc. Tell her to stick around for our next set and she agrees.

After the next set, I tell her a want to get a drink with her at another bar after my show is over. She agrees.

Meanwhile, I'm watching other guys hit on her. She's got the slender model-esque body (although her legs weren't super long), and this amazing ass, especially considering that she's asian. A real bongo butt.

Gig ends and I peace with her.

One thing you will start to notice when you take your game public in front of your friends is that they will all look at you with the hungry eyes when you walk out with a girl that you just met. The whole group of musicians had this look of wonderment at me when I took this girl and walked out with her. All their eyes were on me.

The looks that I was getting were exactly like the ones these girls' asses are getting from dudes on the street. Its like they are in a trance or transfixed:




I take her to another bar, bounce her back to my house and we hit it all night long. Nice tight pussy.

I was kind turned off on asians for a while, but this bang is bringing them back to life for me.

(09-20-2013 01:08 PM)soup Wrote:  I was on the ferry with my buddies a few days ago, and I saw this tall, slender Asian girl with a above average face (she wasn't crazy beautiful) taking pics on her iphone.

Went up to her and asked her what she was shooting. Turns out she's from Korea. I let her know about my music and gave her a business card where she could check my stuff out. Got her number.

Texted her that day but didn't hear back.

Then I texted her about one of my shows. Didn't hear back.

She shows up at the show, by herself. Turns out that her phone wasn't taking texts. She had looked me up and saw that I was playing that night.

As a musician/promoter, it's great to have girls on their own hanging out at the bar to watch you.

I go up and say hi with hug. Chatting and I'm doing light touches etc. Tell her to stick around for our next set and she agrees.

After the next set, I tell her a want to get a drink with her at another bar after my show is over. She agrees.

Meanwhile, I'm watching other guys hit on her. She's got the slender model-esque body (although her legs weren't super long), and this amazing ass, especially considering that she's asian. A real bongo butt.

Gig ends and I peace with her.

One thing you will start to notice when you take your game public in front of your friends is that they will all look at you with the hungry eyes when you walk out with a girl that you just met. The whole group of musicians had this look of wonderment at me when I took this girl and walked out with her. All their eyes were on me.

The looks that I was getting were exactly like the ones these girls' asses are getting from dudes on the street. Its like they are in a trance or transfixed:




I take her to another bar, bounce her back to my house and we hit it all night long. Nice tight pussy.

I was kind turned off on asians for a while, but this bang is bringing them back to life for me.

Nice man.

Had you done any light touching or anything while on the ferry? Was there something you read about her body language that made you believe she was open to a hug?

I never hug a girl I don't know well but should incorporate that more with young girls, so I'm curious. I imagine she may have been kind of uncomfortable alone in the venue and the hug made her more at ease.

(09-20-2013 08:54 PM)Hallasan Wrote:  

(09-20-2013 01:08 PM)soup Wrote:  I was on the ferry with my buddies a few days ago, and I saw this tall, slender Asian girl with a above average face (she wasn't crazy beautiful) taking pics on her iphone.

Went up to her and asked her what she was shooting. Turns out she's from Korea. I let her know about my music and gave her a business card where she could check my stuff out. Got her number.

Texted her that day but didn't hear back.

Then I texted her about one of my shows. Didn't hear back.

She shows up at the show, by herself. Turns out that her phone wasn't taking texts. She had looked me up and saw that I was playing that night.

As a musician/promoter, it's great to have girls on their own hanging out at the bar to watch you.

I go up and say hi with hug. Chatting and I'm doing light touches etc. Tell her to stick around for our next set and she agrees.

After the next set, I tell her a want to get a drink with her at another bar after my show is over. She agrees.

Meanwhile, I'm watching other guys hit on her. She's got the slender model-esque body (although her legs weren't super long), and this amazing ass, especially considering that she's asian. A real bongo butt.

Gig ends and I peace with her.

One thing you will start to notice when you take your game public in front of your friends is that they will all look at you with the hungry eyes when you walk out with a girl that you just met. The whole group of musicians had this look of wonderment at me when I took this girl and walked out with her. All their eyes were on me.

The looks that I was getting were exactly like the ones these girls' asses are getting from dudes on the street. Its like they are in a trance or transfixed:




I take her to another bar, bounce her back to my house and we hit it all night long. Nice tight pussy.

I was kind turned off on asians for a while, but this bang is bringing them back to life for me.

Nice man.

Had you done any light touching or anything while on the ferry? Was there something you read about her body language that made you believe she was open to a hug?

I never hug a girl I don't know well but should incorporate that more with young girls, so I'm curious. I imagine she may have been kind of uncomfortable alone in the venue and the hug made her more at ease.

Aside from a hug, your options are limited.

Handshake? No way. That's for dudes.

No physical contact? That's for scared guys.

Hug is an easy way to build comfort and show that you aren't afraid to get physical. No girl will say no, and if she does, then you know she's not worth your time pursuing.

--- also, looking back, this girl actually had a very average face, but her body made it worth it. She wasn't ugly (her teeth weren't that good), but she wasn't a cute face at all. Just kind of innocuous. Good ass though.

I came on her face and gave her tissue to wipe it off.

Went out... got a few makeouts but didn't pull....Got cockblocked hard by a beta orbiter... Didn't even bother with the digits because I don't do digits...

Unless a girl literally say "take my number" I am not asking for it...Point Blank!

Today I had a sort of hard hitting truth, although I had been thinking about this the past two weeks.

I'm not happy with my recent results. I got to change something. I got to act, and do it NOW.

Today it hit me hard. I need to hesitate less and do more day approaches. Opportunities are everywhere. A girl was walking in front of me in the hallway of a building today and she looked back twice at me. She was talking to a friend so I didn't think about approaching, but it woke up that primal desire in me, and it's been a while since I felt it.

I went for a workout right after and had the best workout I've had in a month.

After I got back on the way to my locker, a girl was sitting in the hallway in front of a class, on her own, reading a novel.

I locked eye contact and that second without thinking 'Why do you pick this spot instead of the library'. Something along those lines, I don't remember exactly. My locker was just a few meters away from where she was sitting so I reached my locker as she replied.

'My class is right here in half an hour'.

I teased her on something about her being an experienced floor reader and she laughed.

I had been reading day bang recently, so everything was fresh in my head. I started trying to ramble, but she was very enthusiastic and carried the conversation forward, so I didn't have to work hard. After a brief talk about her book (which I took a look at and touched her briefly) and major, I changed the scope by mentioning that I travelled recently, leading her to ask where. She gave some of her latest travel details. I'd give some silences and she's ask questions. She closed her book and sat comfortably and engaged herself more in conversation.

It was going great.

I asked her 'by the way, are you half-German?' to which she said yes. I did a flip in my head in amusement at how accurate Roosh's predictions of white girls are. I went through other things in my head such as finding out how she gets to campus, her age, and I realized she facilitated all that for me or I had exchanged that information already.

I felt pressure, as a group of girls entered the hallway and sat a few meters away from us to chat. The hallway was still really quiet and most of the talking was done between us two, so the people were definitely overhearing, whether attentively or not.

I asked her name, and I teased her on having a name that wasn't remotely German. She didn't ask me for mine. I had to go, and it had been 15 minutes of conversation. I asked for her number, although I felt pressure doing this in the quiet hallway where in my head I felt the whole interaction was being monitored.

'just to let you know, I have a bf', as she pulls out her phone and shows me a picture of them. I smile and ask if he is German as well. She tells me he is Czech, I tell her Czech guys are cool, although if I hang out with Europeans it is usually Romanians or Ukranians.

Some guy that just came down and sat near her in the hall pitches in on the conversation. I find a common conversation with him, but mostly to show I am social I could careless about talking to him. I end the conversation on a good note, but ended up not getting her number. Before I left she asked me very explicitly what my name was. She made a brief comment, and I told her I'd see her around.

As I turn around and walk away, I hear the guy saying 'I am John by the way.'

This feels like a new start. Although I've had day approaching experience, I've been really rusty and most of it was me firing in all directions (going overly direct, girls liked it but I didn't get anywhere mostly). Now I'm about doing approaches differently, more focused, longer interactions, and having an actual structure to it. Day bang is really beneficial at this point.

Just one question: Should I have gotten her number anyways? In night game the 'bf' is such a common occurrence that has actual tactics for trying to overcome, but how about day game? I feel the positive to this was that my intention was evident in that I was not looking for friends.

(09-21-2013 03:32 AM)soup Wrote:  Handshake? No way. That's for dudes.

(09-21-2013 03:32 AM)soup Wrote:  No physical contact? That's for scared guys.


Hug is an easy way to build comfort and show that you aren't afraid to get physical. No girl will say no, and if she does, then you know she's not worth your time pursuing.

I like that. Well said..

(09-24-2013 01:06 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  A girl was walking in front of me in the hallway of a building today and she looked back twice at me.

As soon as she looks back at you a 2nd time..

Simply say -- "Hello" with a smile.

Or, "Whats up" with a smile.

Anything like that would work.

If she is looking at you more then once, she wants you to talk to her!

(09-24-2013 01:06 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Opportunities are everywhere.

Yes, you must understand this and be ready to talk to cute girls at all times!

We are surrounded by beautiful women!

(09-24-2013 01:06 PM)Nascimento Wrote:  Just one question: Should I have gotten her number anyways?

It wouldn't hurt to try..

Unless, you know you are gonna see her around and you can talk to her again..?

Sometimes, its good to wait for the 2nd or 3rd conversation to ask for her number.

(09-20-2013 08:54 PM)Hallasan Wrote:  Had you done any light touching or anything while on the ferry? Was there something you read about her body language that made you believe she was open to a hug?

I think you're missing the BLARING HUGE indicator of interest called she came ALONE to his show on her own accord after looking him up and finding out he had a show coming up. If she had denied a hug it would be shocking. Calibration is key.

Haven't been on in a while due to a combination of work and getting my new place squared away. Most of my approaches have been when I've been dressed at my worst ( dirty tee shirt, gym shorts, flip flops or sneakers) because I've been working all day and I'm just stopping into a dive bar to have a drink before heading home.

Went to a bar Friday where I'm friendly with the staff. One of the bartenders introduced me to her friend who was in town. Classic chunky 4. She was with a guy but made it clear that they were friends and that she was single. As we're talking, she starts turning her back to the guy more and more shutting him out of the conversation. After about 15 minutes, she turns to the guy and starts talking to him. I assume that I'm out of the conversation and decide to send out a tweet: "I'm sick of these chunky white girls hitting on me, I need to lose more weight"

As soon as I send it, she says "That's fucking rude" I looked up and noticed that she was starting at my phone. I ignored her comment and asked her a question about her job, she opened right back up which I thought was hilarious. I even started making some really mean jokes to her, but she ate it up. I dipped out after a few drinks and headed home. I ran into the bartender yesterday and she said her friend couldn't stop talking about me.

Took my nephews bowling Saturday night, no talent besides the bartender. I'd make some small talk when I'd get drinks just to be social. When we left, I was waiting at the bar to pay my tab so I started texting chicks to see if anyone was out. The bartender came over to me apologizing for the wait and she was worried that I was going to call the bar (WTF?) I mentioned that I don't even have the number, she countered by saying that I would have to call her cell phone to get the bar. I naturally took her number. I'll see what happens with that.

Walked to the coffee shop Sunday morning. I walked past a cafe that had tables set up outside. Two girls were sitting as I walked past, one of the girls started at me for a second then looked down quickly. I get my coffee and start reading my book, taking glances here and there of the crowd. After about a half hour, I see the two girls from before walk in and get coffee. They sit at a table within my sight line and I see the girl catch glances at me. I stop over and make a comment about the danishes that they were eating. I somehow went on a 5 minute monologue about danishes. But they opened up and I was able to get a date for Thursday, so I'll get the test the logistics of my new place.

Could be close to a bang here. And this might be entirely due to text game.

Background: Met her a couple weeks ago. Traded some brief, short exchanges after she texted me the morning after we met (I gave her my number). Tried to set up a hangout, she said yes, but then no response when I suggested a day.

Radio silenced for a week, reinitiated contact. Played some aloof texting that got her asking me questions, and I was just giving vague responses. She asked me if I was in a band when I said I was in between gigs and I replied with 'its complicated'. I told her a date to hangout again, she said she would find out if she was free, but it didn't go through.

I've been experimenting with Heartiste in my text messaging and there has been great feedback. Check out the following, I texted her today after plans to meet yesterday failed:

Me: i'll let you invite me over for a glass of wine sometime when i am free
Her: You'll let me eh? Pretty confident
Me: i'm not easy, don't get ideas
Her: After a few glasses of wine I'm sure I could change that
Me: talk a big game. rarely as good as advertised
Her: Lmaoo look at youuu
I guess we'll just have to wait and find out
Me: handful
Her: You betcha

I'm not sure if I should leave it for the day, and then somehow suggest I can come over tomorrow or some other day this week, in the right frame of course. I am not too sure how to take this forward.

Any ideas?

I got a pussyshot from a CS girl after three weeks. I didnt ask for one and didnt send a cockshot. She is cute, maybe 135, but the pussy doesnt look appealing. She texted me last night wanting to kick it and I didnt respond.

Sad thing is I smashed a 50 yo over the weekend but am pussyfooting on this one. I dont know what is wrong with me. Should I post the shot on here and you guys decide? In the end pussy has no face so I should just let my boner decide.

Texas smash it you fool.

I think there is something to soups leg crossing theory. Went on date where crossed away from me: let's be friends. Tonight diff girl crossed toward me: make out and she's into it.

Met this girl a couple days ago, was working at the peak of my game (amazing how motivation helps; sitting dry here after a break-up with a girl). My buddy and I were talking to her and her friend, he talked to her friend on his painting (he's a legitimate painter - he'd fit into roman times, he's built too from 15 years of working out several hours a day - teaching this guy some game, he gets it from looks/hobbies, but his game's weak), I talked to the other one and opened her on her classwork. Discussion went well, worked a little mystery style game into it with plenty of negs and teasing.

Fast forward a bit; number closed, that gig, set up plans for friday and then I get this gem.



Guess I'm smashing a high schooler tomorrow.

Had a date with a POF chick couple of nights ago. Mid 30s MILFy nurse. Body was a bit thick but curvy which is a type I like . Told me she had DD implants. She was into me from the start and I liked her as well. She kept telling me I was sexy and we made out a bit, changed venues and she started talking about sex, her sex toys, and that she was a big squirter. Could have closed her easily, but logistics were terrible, we were in a town mid distance between us and it was quite a ways to either of our places. She told me I should come spend the weekend with her sometime. ended up making out, got a date planned next week. Still married actually, in divorce proceedings and waiting on the final order (so she says)

Yesterday met a chick off Craigslist who answered my sex ad,; we had a few drinks and I tried to pull her to my hotel but she wouldn't go for it. Obviously just looking for attention and validation. Deleted her.

Later that night met a girl from SA. Hot blonde who says she's 21 but looks and acts more like 25. Hot either way. Just planned a drink meeting which went well. Little make out at the end . Texted me later saying she wants to see me again soon but I'm not sure if I can bang her without her demanding money up front, which I won't give her; she seems like that type .I'll set another date with her and see how it goes

This afternoon had a lunch meeting with another SA girl, cute 19 year old. Went very well. I don't think she expects much; seemed like she was the type who would be happy with being taken out for a nice evening. We met at the bar of a nice restaurant. I said goodbye to her and she walked out; a minute later i got a text from her saying that she should have kissed me goodbye and asking me to come out and see her. She was sitting in her car outside; I got in and we made out for a while. 51-19=32. Haha.

So, I have a few things teed up but no real results this week

Bar hopping. First spot had on prospects. Second spot had a blk chick but in a group of three. Didnt see her alone. Three spot is dead. Still early. Some days I love solo and others I dont.

Game on.

she's in the bathroom

Followed up with my high school girl. Damn, she is hot. Pulled off some textbook text game. My best yet, by far. Making out within an hour and a half of meeting up with her; shirt mostly off within 2 hours, the rest went from there. Cocky asshole game worked well with this girl. Called her a little bitch to her face and she ate that shit up. She made some shows of resistance which I called her on; told her for someone who needs to go so quickly, she's trying very hard to keep kissing me.

Need my own place however so I can improve logistics. Living with parents, grandparents, and 7 siblings does not do much to help my game. Hard to improve much past where I am now without that, especially when many girls I meet don't have their own place either.

Gonna keep this girl around. Not a girlfriend-type girl... she's too insecure, too damaged, too young and in the wrong scenes, but definitely a good girl to party with. She showed up showing most of her belly with a shirt that splits right under her boobs. Shirt was sheer and bra was clearly seen through it. Expected that in some ways, but just seeing her then after meeting her in a coffee shop... definitely gave me a good head start as to the type of game to run.

(09-25-2013 10:45 PM)Menace Wrote:  Texas smash it you fool.

I think there is something to soups leg crossing theory. Went on date where crossed away from me: let's be friends. Tonight diff girl crossed toward me: make out and she's into it.

Since Soup mentioned it here, I've always looked for it and found to to be infallible.

The more directly her legs are pointed at you the more she is attracted to you, and the reverse is true also

But don't give up if her legs are pointed away at the start; some girls start out this way and will gradually turn toward you as you win them over. I've found that if she is still pointing her legs away from you after 15-20 minutes she is a lost cause and it's best to cut the date short because you are very unlikely to ever be getting that pussy

Went to some clubs last night in DC, I don't usually go to these places but I figured I just moved into the city from the burbs, I might as well explore. I went to Josephine and Ultrabar. I also went to Lost Society last Friday. I'm finding it's a tough scene to crack. For one, I get tons of looks when I'm walking down the street in a t shirt and jeans, but when I dress up in a nice shirt and shoes I don't get nearly as many looks, even in the clubs. Another thing I noticed is that even going early, it was a sausage fest. I did talk to a couple girls but it went nowhere, I'm usually good up to about the 10 min mark when my game starts to drop off.

I find regular bars much better than clubs, but has anyone else in the DC area have better experiences at clubs?

I think given the attention I can draw in the day I should start working on day game too.

Started reading Models, by Mark Manson...I know many of you have read it.

I'm about 40 pages in and really enjoying it. The examples he provides of relationships that start of well, and then crumble when the guy starts investing more in the relationship than the girl made me reflect on past mistakes.

As I continue enjoying college girls for the next few years, I need to always remind myself to invest less. That's key.

(09-28-2013 02:37 PM)Spider Wrote:  Started reading Models, by Mark Manson...I know many of you have read it.

I'm about 40 pages in and really enjoying it. The examples he provides of relationships that start of well, and then crumble when the guy starts investing more in the relationship than the girl made me reflect on past mistakes.

As I continue enjoying college girls for the next few years, I need to always remind myself to invest less. That's key.

I think INVESTING into YOUR INDIVIDUAL LIFE is key, not just investing less into hers. Most people when they become WORKER DRONES have lost all ASPECTS of LIFE.. that drove their LIFE, their PASSION.

I took out a girl I smashed a month or two back. We went to the shooting range then went out for drinks. I picked her up and shes already faded off vodka. Anyway, i am driving to her place and she starts to rub on my neck hard as shit. I automatically thought, "this bish wants to be slapped".

Never slapped a girl before. Ended up getting road head. She sucks like a champ. Get to her place and sge started to ride. I did some light choking then smacked her ass hard a few times. She loved it. Finally I decided to smaher face. So I had one hand on her neck and slapped her a bit soft. She started to lick my hand haha. Smacked her a few more times harder and she started to gush.

I want to say I have smacked a girl before but never that hard or that much. Shit is a turn on. She will stay in rotation.

(09-28-2013 10:44 PM)TexasMade Wrote:  I took out a girl I smashed a month or two back. We went to the shooting range then went out for drinks. I picked her up and shes already faded off vodka. Anyway, i am driving to her place and she starts to rub on my neck hard as shit. I automatically thought, "this bish wants to be slapped".

Never slapped a girl before. Ended up getting road head. She sucks like a champ. Get to her place and sge started to ride. I did some light choking then smacked her ass hard a few times. She loved it. Finally I decided to smaher face. So I had one hand on her neck and slapped her a bit soft. She started to lick my hand haha. Smacked her a few more times harder and she started to gush.

I want to say I have smacked a girl before but never that hard or that much. Shit is a turn on. She will stay in rotation.

Fellas, if you want to be a player, you'd be spanking that ass..