Post: #1651

Isn't it up to a million yet??

Post: #1652

^^ You're thinking CCPC Shares.

Post: #1653

So, interesting development in La Belle Province here recently which has not been widely reported at all; I am not sure how much anyone in the RoC has heard about this:

After the mosque shooting in Quebec two years ao go on January 29 2017, the provincial Liberal gov't introduced new firearm legislation which required all non-restricted (i.e. "long guns") firearms be registered with the province under the SIAF, or Firearms Registration Service, thus replicating the failed and repealed Federal Long-Gun Registry. The law was to come into effect on the 2nd anniversary of the shooting i.e. 29 Jan 2019, the idea being that long-gun owners wishing to remain on the right side of the law will have had a year in which to register their guns.

Well, the countdown was on and gun owners were watching and waiting to see just how it would turn out. January 29th 2019 came and went, and... of the province's 500 000 or so gun owners, they registered less than 20% of the long guns believed to be in the province.

In what appears to be a surprising act of mass civil disobedience, the new gun registry has all the makings of a failure and a fiasco. That being said, very little is being said about it on the nightly news, no doubt to hide the (recently elected and new) gov'ts embarrassment at the failure, and also to stop people in other provinces from getting any ideas should it be re-implemented at the national level.

In a fairly boneheaded move, with the clock running down to the deadline and about 10% of guns registered, the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of Quebec mailed out letters to PAL (firearms license) holders reminding them that this was their chance to legally register before the deadline. This move was clearly not thought out and a bit of an own goal because it only served to prove that they already had the names and addresses of everyone who is a legally licensed firearms owner.

In an even more interesting development, a number of communities have rallied to the call of the main anti-registry lobby group and are declaring that they are refusing to abide by the new registry (admittedly a symbolic gesture, but still). As of today there are 84 such towns across the province, and not surprisingly they are all small rural localities where hunting is a way of life.

After the mosque shooting it was clear the govt would seize the opportunity to reintroduce some kind of increased gun control, and it is surprisingly refreshing to see the reaction it is generating this time around.

Post: #1654

Fuck ya vive le Quebec!

Post: #1655

Tous contre un registre Québécois des armes à feu

Jan 27, 2019

8:00 AM EST

Open letter from the ex-police against the register.

It was claimed by the supporters of the creation of the Quebec arms register that it was a request by the police. We are retired police officers from different services in different regions. But our observation is the same.

The reality is that the employer and the trade union party have both positioned themselves in favour of the register. But everything indicates that it is for political and social reasons. After the killing of the polytechnic, the anti-firearms lobby became extremely powerful. We can easily understand that. What politician would dare say no to women who were victims of such terrible drama?

They were exposed to a war scene, while even soldiers trained to face these situations often come back when they face it. But should this suffering justify penalising honest citizens?

And the police, those who do work on the ground and allegedly need this tool, have not been consulted on this. The Police Act (Chapter 13.1) requires reservation and neutrality. Add the culture present in the police bodies where it is wrong to get out of the ranks. This leads to pressure to remain discreet on the issue, especially when an active policeman is against the register.

In this debate surrounding the application of the firearms register, we retired police officers believe that it is relevant to make our position heard in order to counterbalance the expected silence of our still active colleagues.

The Nature of police work has changed much over time. Organized crime is becoming increasingly difficult and more and more mental health and drug abuse interventions are being undertaken. The reality of the field brings us back to the critical needs in these areas. In the exercise of our daily functions, inadequate services and frameworks for disorganized patients and drug addicts are obvious.

The law on the protection of persons whose mental state poses a danger to themselves or to others limits our scope to those who present a serious and immédiat' danger. Are released quickly when they have a clear need for care and mentoring.

So disorganized people are left to themselves shortly after we have intervened. The phenomenon of revolving doors is known and documented. The Criminal Act becomes the front door for services until next time. It became the daily police work.

We believe that the money placed on the firearms register would be much more useful to the work of the police if it was invested in mental health care, the supervision of patients who do not take their treatment and the rehabilitation of drug addicts.

We also believe that the creation of a register of shoulder weapons held by honest citizens is an unjustified erosion of our rights. We know from experience that it is better to always assume that there are weapons than to rely on a bureaucratic tool.

So if the objective is to help the police, the creation of a Quebec arms register misses the target and exposes very badly the real nature of the problems they encounter in the performance of their duties.

* 125. The provisions of this chapter shall apply without prejudice to the provisions of the code of ethics of the police of Quebec (Chapter P-13.1, 1), including those relating to the duty of political neutrality in the performance of their duties, the duty of reserve in the public demonstration of political opinions, the duty of discretion, the duty of impartiality in the performance of their duties and the Conflicts of interest. They shall also apply without prejudice to discipline rules. 12, a. 125.

Jean-guy dagenais, retired since 2011, Quebec security and Senator.
Dominique Corneau, retired since 2015, municipal police in saguenay, filed a memory in the National Assembly against the creation of the register, but the elected members refused to hear it in parliamentary committee.
Éric Létourneau, retired since 2013, Quebec security, Rouyn-Noranda.
Pierre Addy, retired since 1999, Quebec security, st-Jean on richelieu and Montreal HQ.
Germain roussel retired since 2012, Quebec security, matan1e.
Roland Side, retired RCMP.
Gordon Chicoine, retired sergeant since 2004, Quebec security, who worked half his career in indigenous circles.
Ronald Lussier, retired since 2005, Quebec security, Prowler and homicide investigator.
Henry Lafresnaye retired since 2006, Quebec security, Chandler.
Jacques Thomassin, retired captain, Quebec security, BAS-St-Laurent, gaspésie.
Claude Roussel, retired since 1995, RCMP in several Canadian provinces, including Quebec.
Odilon Emond, retired since 1998, has worked in three Canadian provinces, including Quebec.
Serge Bayard, retired policeman of the city of Huntingdon, 1980.
Alain Dallaire, retired 2016 RCMP. Investigation work organized crime 20/35 years.
Carol Dugas, retired Quebec Security Officer, Prowler, post manager. Caplan, QC.
Alain Beaulieu, retired in 2004, criminal investigator 14 years and lieutenant at sq.
David Joncas, retired from sq. 2017, supervisor, 40 years of service.
André Langlois, retired from the sq. 1995, big rocks.
Claude Cheff, retired from the sq. 2000, corporal of indigenous connections.

Michel Blackburn retired from the since 1996.

Post: #1656

The Quebecois are a different type of Canadian than the others. They are proud of who they are and they will not bend the knee upon the Canadian insanity brought upon by Justin Trudeau, a traitor to all Quebecois!

Post: #1657

(02-04-2019 11:21 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  The Quebecois are a different type of Canadian than the others. They are proud of who they are and they will not bend the knee upon the Canadian insanity brought upon by Justin Trudeau, a traitor to all Quebecois!

Outside of Montreal, yes.

Montreal has already been diversified and is completely controlled by (((them))).

Post: #1658

(02-04-2019 11:52 PM)Labienus Wrote:  

(02-04-2019 11:21 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  The Quebecois are a different type of Canadian than the others. They are proud of who they are and they will not bend the knee upon the Canadian insanity brought upon by Justin Trudeau, a traitor to all Quebecois!

Outside of Montreal, yes.

Montreal has already been diversified and is completely controlled by (((them))).

Jacques Parizeau is that you?

Post: #1659

(02-04-2019 09:07 PM)ed pluribus unum Wrote:  So, interesting development in La Belle Province here recently which has not been widely reported at all; I am not sure how much anyone in the RoC has heard about this:

After the mosque shooting in Quebec two years ao go on January 29 2017, the provincial Liberal gov't introduced new firearm legislation which required all non-restricted (i.e. "long guns") firearms be registered with the province under the SIAF, or Firearms Registration Service, thus replicating the failed and repealed Federal Long-Gun Registry. The law was to come into effect on the 2nd anniversary of the shooting i.e. 29 Jan 2019, the idea being that long-gun owners wishing to remain on the right side of the law will have had a year in which to register their guns.

Well, the countdown was on and gun owners were watching and waiting to see just how it would turn out. January 29th 2019 came and went, and... of the province's 500 000 or so gun owners, they registered less than 20% of the long guns believed to be in the province.

In what appears to be a surprising act of mass civil disobedience, the new gun registry has all the makings of a failure and a fiasco. That being said, very little is being said about it on the nightly news, no doubt to hide the (recently elected and new) gov'ts embarrassment at the failure, and also to stop people in other provinces from getting any ideas should it be re-implemented at the national level.

In a fairly boneheaded move, with the clock running down to the deadline and about 10% of guns registered, the Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) of Quebec mailed out letters to PAL (firearms license) holders reminding them that this was their chance to legally register before the deadline. This move was clearly not thought out and a bit of an own goal because it only served to prove that they already had the names and addresses of everyone who is a legally licensed firearms owner.

In an even more interesting development, a number of communities have rallied to the call of the main anti-registry lobby group and are declaring that they are refusing to abide by the new registry (admittedly a symbolic gesture, but still). As of today there are 84 such towns across the province, and not surprisingly they are all small rural localities where hunting is a way of life.

After the mosque shooting it was clear the govt would seize the opportunity to reintroduce some kind of increased gun control, and it is surprisingly refreshing to see the reaction it is generating this time around.

If only aussie firearms owners had half those balls in 1996.

Post: #1660

https://globalnews.ca/news/4928214/gun-c...6BUphDNkVk

Quote:OTTAWA — New ideas for federal gun-control rules will likely come with in weeks, says the minister responsible for devising them.

Since August, Bill Blair has been studying ways to get handguns and assault rifles off Canada’s streets, with measures that might include anything from restrictions on sales to crackdowns on smuggling.

READ MORE: Toronto receives more than $7M from federal government to tackle gun violence

Tuesday, the former Toronto police chief and current minister for organized-crime reduction told reporters he hopes to complete the work “in the coming weeks” and present a report to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

“When we’ve got it all compiled, I’ll take it back to him and share with him what Canadians have told us,” he said.

When Trudeau named Blair to the cabinet, his instructions included that he lead an examination into “a full ban on handguns and assault weapons in Canada.” Since his appointment, Blair has been travelling the country to discuss the issue.

Blair’s mandate also includes supporting Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale’s Bill C-71, currently in its second reading in the Senate.

The bill includes changes to the Firearms Act and Criminal Code. Among its amendments are considering events more than five years in the past when judging applicants’ eligibility for gun licences; requiring a buyer’s licence be verified in the sale of non-restricted firearms; and having businesses record information about the people to whom they sell guns.

READ MORE: By the numbers — How Toronto gun violence in 2018 compares with past years

The Liberal government is concerned that the bill’s provisions won’t do enough to stop gang violence in large cities such as Toronto.

In 2016, more than half of firearm-related violent crimes involved handguns, according to Statistics Canada.

Get your RPAL and buy a pistol while you still can.

Post: #1661

(02-05-2019 10:57 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  https://globalnews.ca/news/4928214/gun-c...6BUphDNkVk

Quote:OTTAWA — New ideas for federal gun-control rules will likely come with in weeks, says the minister responsible for devising them.

Since August, Bill Blair has been studying ways to get handguns and assault rifles off Canada’s streets, with measures that might include anything from restrictions on sales to crackdowns on smuggling.

READ MORE: Toronto receives more than $7M from federal government to tackle gun violence

Tuesday, the former Toronto police chief and current minister for organized-crime reduction told reporters he hopes to complete the work “in the coming weeks” and present a report to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

“When we’ve got it all compiled, I’ll take it back to him and share with him what Canadians have told us,” he said.

When Trudeau named Blair to the cabinet, his instructions included that he lead an examination into “a full ban on handguns and assault weapons in Canada.” Since his appointment, Blair has been travelling the country to discuss the issue.

Blair’s mandate also includes supporting Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale’s Bill C-71, currently in its second reading in the Senate.

The bill includes changes to the Firearms Act and Criminal Code. Among its amendments are considering events more than five years in the past when judging applicants’ eligibility for gun licences; requiring a buyer’s licence be verified in the sale of non-restricted firearms; and having businesses record information about the people to whom they sell guns.

READ MORE: By the numbers — How Toronto gun violence in 2018 compares with past years

The Liberal government is concerned that the bill’s provisions won’t do enough to stop gang violence in large cities such as Toronto.

In 2016, more than half of firearm-related violent crimes involved handguns, according to Statistics Canada.

Get your RPAL and buy a pistol while you still can.

What is the process of getting your RPAL if you already have a PAL?

Post: #1662

You need to take the RPAL course and then mail in your application similar to your PAL but with the form showing you passed the RPAL test. The course takes roughly the same amount of time with the same format and is as easy as the PAL.

Post: #1663

What a total idiot.





I love it when he goes off script. His IQ has got to be around 80-85 max.

Post: #1664

I'm pretty sure that poor Canadians benefitted from the reduction of the GST by 2% under the Harper government, fuck he really is dense eh?

Post: #1665

(02-06-2019 08:36 AM)ChefAllDay Wrote:  What a total idiot.





I love it when he goes off script. His IQ has got to be around 80-85 max.

He's like Obama and other politicians, not super bright in terms of raw intelligence, but very good actors and spin doctors, with a pretty high social IQ, like many sociopaths have. They're very good at deceiving the average voter.

Post: #1666

(02-06-2019 12:44 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 10:57 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Get your RPAL and buy a pistol while you still can.

What is the process of getting your RPAL if you already have a PAL?

Its one extra day of class. You have to write the written test + the practical firearm handling test, then mail all the paperwork off to the RCMP.

Best way is to get both (PAL, RPAL) at the same time, it takes a full weekend. Then you do both sets of applications at once.

Most of the written RPAL test is the same stuff as PAL, safety, trajectory, talking points from the course.

Post: #1667

I've had my PAL for a couple of years now, I just haven't bought a rifle yet because I've been living out of a suit case and storage has been an issue. I plan on buying one soon though and I'll be storing it at a friend's place, now that there's talk of them banning some of the restricted firearms, I'm considering buying one just because.

Post: #1668

That's exactly what I did way back when Paul Martins Libs were talking about a 100% ban on handguns. I did my RPAL at the mess hall in Bosnia during downtimes, had it waiting for me when I got back home and bought a Colt 45 just because.

Post: #1669

(02-05-2019 10:57 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  https://globalnews.ca/news/4928214/gun-c...6BUphDNkVk

Quote:OTTAWA — New ideas for federal gun-control rules will likely come with in weeks, says the minister responsible for devising them.

Since August, Bill Blair has been studying ways to get handguns and assault rifles off Canada’s streets, with measures that might include anything from restrictions on sales to crackdowns on smuggling.

READ MORE: Toronto receives more than $7M from federal government to tackle gun violence

Tuesday, the former Toronto police chief and current minister for organized-crime reduction told reporters he hopes to complete the work “in the coming weeks” and present a report to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

“When we’ve got it all compiled, I’ll take it back to him and share with him what Canadians have told us,” he said.

When Trudeau named Blair to the cabinet, his instructions included that he lead an examination into “a full ban on handguns and assault weapons in Canada.” Since his appointment, Blair has been travelling the country to discuss the issue.

Blair’s mandate also includes supporting Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale’s Bill C-71, currently in its second reading in the Senate.

The bill includes changes to the Firearms Act and Criminal Code. Among its amendments are considering events more than five years in the past when judging applicants’ eligibility for gun licences; requiring a buyer’s licence be verified in the sale of non-restricted firearms; and having businesses record information about the people to whom they sell guns.

READ MORE: By the numbers — How Toronto gun violence in 2018 compares with past years

The Liberal government is concerned that the bill’s provisions won’t do enough to stop gang violence in large cities such as Toronto.

In 2016, more than half of firearm-related violent crimes involved handguns, according to Statistics Canada.

Get your RPAL and buy a pistol while you still can.

Or, just get the pistol...

Post: #1670

(02-06-2019 02:11 PM)scotian Wrote:  I've had my PAL for a couple of years now, I just haven't bought a rifle yet because I've been living out of a suit case and storage has been an issue. I plan on buying one soon though and I'll be storing it at a friend's place, now that there's talk of them banning some of the restricted firearms, I'm considering buying one just because.

I know a place where you can keep it

Post: #1671

^ get the Kel-Tec Sub 2000 (Gen 2), it fits nicely in a suitcase: problem solved. Bonus, it's non-restricted.

Post: #1672

One possible line of action of Blair and the Libs might take would be to make ARs and/or all handguns prohibited but allow existing owners to grandfather theirs. In order to do that, if you already have a RPAL, you just need to buy an AR lower because technically, that is the firearm.

You can get bare bones lowers (i.e. just the casting) for about $100 Cdn online. That would be sufficient to get it registered ; if it turns into a full - on ban, we'll you're only out $100.

Of course, this being the retarded Dominion, you would still need to put a lock on that casting and have it in a locked container in order to comply with safe storage laws.

Post: #1673

What part of "criminals don't follow laws" do these liberal politicians not understand?

Post: #1674

Guns I'm planning on picking up

Non Restricted
Stag 10 + 10 round pistol mags
Benelli M4
Robinson Arms XCR
Eventually a .50 cal

Restricted
Colt Canada MRR 11.6 or the L119A2
Glock 19 Gen 5 MOS FS
Walther PPQ Q4 Tac
CZ P-10 C

Post: #1675

So apparently there was a news release from the NSICOP yesterday (that's the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians, don't you know) which announced the following:

Quote:The National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) today announces four reviews of government national security and intelligence activities for 2019. The Committee’s first review will examine the threat to Canada’s national security posed by foreign interference and the measures in place to counter it. Canada, like most other Western democracies, is vulnerable to foreign actors seeking to illegitimately influence or interfere in our political and economic processes.

I can just imagine the meeting: "well, the "Russian interference" thing is having mixed success in the US, but there's no reason not to believe the average Canadian voter won't swallow it hook, line and sinker.""