Post: #151

I asked you this before and you didn't answer:

Do you have any friends?

Post: #152

Man you're full of shit. You can't possibly make this much money and be a self made man and lack any kind of vision so thoroughly. You are a liar and a troll.

40k a month? 40k, a month? Motherfucker you could rent 4 nice houses in Boston and still have a fuckton left. Party house, boat house, your house, bitch roomate house. Are you retarded why would you nerd more money to do that?

Post: #153

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  Hey brother, about weightlifting and muscles I also thought that it had not a very big impact .

Like you, I'm black, I have broad shoulders and carried a reasonable good amount of muscle mass naturally (the last two being correlated to a good response to strength training).

I started starting strength novice linear progression six months ago and missed only 4 training sessions. Never did something as physically challenging. I started out at 185 pounds, athletic, very low fat percentage (I'm 6'2). I'm now 220 pounds, musclular. Of course I added a little fat, but it has spread out nicely, abs are still visible.

It' only 3 times a week, 1 hour 30 to max 2 hours.

Not everyone has the same training sensitivity but it's worth trying. There is a very wide spectrum from non-responders to genetic freaks.

It would make a BIG difference with women, I guarantee you.

wait are you serious?

you put on 35 pounds of mostly muscle in 6 months?

I'm currently 6 feet, 190, 15-18% body fat

Currently im trying to get into single digit body fat.

I was planning to then just stay like that but if its possible to put on muscle as fast as you say then I should probably do it.

can you give more details on what you mean by "BIG" difference with women?

All the guys I know who are muscular and fuck a lot of girls are all muscular and also tall.

In my experience just muscle alone doesn't really help.

I dont remember ever meeting any short (5-9 or under) super muscular guy who fucked a lot of girls.

Post: #154

(10-17-2018 12:46 PM)jcardial Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)General Stalin Wrote:  Also, OP: if you making $40,000/month (profit), write a damn data shit on how you came to make this kind of money on amazon.

If he is actually smart enough to make 40k/month from Amazon he is smart enough to not give away his edge. That said, Amazon is by all accounts getting increasingly competitive so even if you tried to replicate someone's model other players (including Amazon themselves) might have already moved in by the time you are up and running. I have no reason to not believe OP, but some guys do extrapolate their best month(s) or year and assume the gravy train will continue.

The OP is correctly being conservative with his money so he doesn't seem to be the delusional type. Any advice to ball out is dumb because he's at an age where he has the opportunity to build wealth and not have to worry about money later on (when he might actually need it to have a family). It's dumb to get frisky with throwing around money unless you are already well into the seven figure net worth range and the lifestyle costs aren't making a dent. A decent well located apartment puts you well ahead of the curve at 25. A lot of high end lifestyle stuff has very diminishing returns anyway, especially when it comes to attracting women and you just end up using it as a crutch and your game suffers.

A central place where you can do some entertaining is probably your best play. Five minutes walk is a big difference between 10-15 minute drive because it's a lot harder to sell as a pre-game or after party spot. Having to convince people to get into a taxi is just an annoying extra hurdle. It's even better if you can find a reasonably nice building with a BBQ/communal area/rooftop to entertain so you don't have to let hordes of people soil your nice apartment. You also wouldn't have a bunch of unused square footage bleeding money each month.

I can tell from what you wrote here that you are probably someone else at this level in a similar industry.

I also like the part where you talk about not having people dirty up your nice place.

Thats what keeps coming to my mind when people keep telling me to get a really nice place and host these parties/gatherings.

The wear and tear on the place from hosting all these events would be bad.

Post: #155

(10-17-2018 06:24 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:14 PM)kaotic Wrote:  No dude making 40K a month is going to be sitting on a forum asking random internet guys for advice on how to use his large per month income to fuck more/hotter girls.

I'm not buying this at all, call me a pessimist.

There are people who stumble into money without the experience to know how to use it.

People scaling paid traffic quickly for example. Usually nerdy guys who suddenly find themselves rich.

The problem of course is that if you need to ask how to spend your money, chances are you're lacking something important, a posse of good friends to share the wealth with for example.

Some suggestions:

Basics

Upgrade wardrobe
Fix teeth
Remove minor facial issues with surgery/laser/etc
Run cycle with personal trainer

Lifestyle

Rent a boat and sail to various happening spots
Make friends at these spots, be invited to parties
Buy a condo or summer home abroad
Get expensive tattoos from artists around the world
Go to industry conferences around the world
Invest in an industry with lots of women (bar, restaurant, etc)

Get better and cooler

Buy and learn to ride a motorcycle
Take up high adrenaline hobby: mountain climbing, ultra light airplanes, surfring
Get involved personally and financially in charity (small level, not big corporate)
Participate in various rituals, Ayuhuasca, meditation retreat, ice swimming
Go hunting or fishing for big game (if hunting is too un pc)

thank you for this comment.

regarding the wardrobe.

I'm actually surprised not a lot of people have mentioned that.

Currently I buy most of my clothes at H&M and Zara and the occasional stuff like shoes at Nordstrom.

what do you think of that?

do you think i would attract significantly more/hotter girls if I upgraded my clothes to let's say Hugo Boss level?

Post: #156

(10-17-2018 08:12 PM)DonnyGately Wrote:  Hotter girls and you have money? Move to NYC, Miami or LA. Solves 90% of your issue in one go. If you're a decent-looking, taller, well-built [not jacked] black man in NYC you can crush it from my decade+ experience watching my work and school friends when we'd go out.

Girls definitely notice a nicer ride, they're usually too smooth to comment on it unless they're 'car girls.' Of course in NYC this is mostly irrelevant. Be a 5 minute walk from some hot neighborhood.

I've spent time in all 3 NYC, Miami in LA.

I would say in NYC i noticed i was attracting more girls but LA and Miami was the same as anywhere else.

Keep in mind that I've only spent time in the tourist areas for these 3 cities: west holywood, south beach and time square.

so maybe my results would have been better if i went where the locals are.

Post: #157

(10-18-2018 09:34 PM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  OP seems to have the sort of tunnel-vision hardheaded mentality I've seen in a lot of successful entrepreuners. Good for business, bad for all other areas of life. You'd be surprised of the type of social incompetence and lack of common sense I've seen in guys ESPECIALLY if they made their money in some sort of very specific niche.

OP please consider some of the advice posted on this thread.

At the risk of sounding like an armchair psychologist, I also sense that u seem to have some sort of racial hangups about being black. You mentioned that you are black what 5 times? With your sort of scratch along with an American passport it shouldn't matter anywhere.

Wish u luck.

regarding the bold part.

no dude.

Being black is by far my biggest advantage in fucking girls.

If i was exactly the same in every way but was white I would be doing a lot worst for sure.

I love being black.

Post: #158

(10-19-2018 03:02 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  I think we may be dealing with that black IRT who was banned recently, cant remember his id.

On this guys very first posts he is strong on Indian girls, race, brown girls, and not being a troll.

(09-01-2018 07:28 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  I just joined this forum to specifically ask other black guys about indian girls.

I'm a pretty good looking black guy and I attract all types of girls but indian girls seem to have no interest in me at all.

It's actually been bothering for a long time now as I have a thing for caramel colored girls so I see a lot of indian girls who I'm attracted to. There's a lot of them where i live.

Is any black guy in here regularly fucking some hot indian girls?

Does anyone else feel completely ignored by these girls?

I've heard Indian people in general are very racist towards black people so are these girls just racist?

Also, where I live most of the brown girls are indian so I'm talking about them specifically as I do not have experience with brown/arab girls from other countries.

I have heard that other brown girls like persians and morocans like black men so this does not seem to be an issue with all brown/arab girls.

Please share any info you have on this.

TDK was first to call this troll a troll.

/thread-44508...pid1844623

So he goes from this crap to suddenly needing please help me I'm a baller advice?

Americans black or otherwise write $40,000 not $40 000.

yes i like brown girls.

Yes I'm kind of obsessed with them right now as for some reason they dont seem to like me at all.

No I'm not a previous user who was banned.

I've never been a member of this forum before.

Post: #159

(10-21-2018 04:38 PM)RDF Wrote:  His income is not quite enough for "international jetset playboy" status where women are begging for your attention. For that, you're talking millions not just in income, but also in wealth - multiple homes, private jets, etc. That's a long way away.

However, >$20k net/mth is definitely enough to get your foot into the door in the high-end social circles in basically any city, including Los Angeles and NYC. You aren't a "big baller", but you can step onto the court. At that point, it just depends whether you have skills and the fortitude to play the game right.

OP, in order to be successful at this, you will have to reevaluate your entire mindset.

As a lone-wolf club PUA, your entire approach and though process is focused on the PRESENT. If I say this and do that, will this girl go home and fuck me tonight. Not tomorrow, not next week. Tonight. Your entire thought process sounds very reactionary and short-term focused - "I got into a fight, so I will now get a bodyguard", "I got a crib close to the action for a few days and didn't get laid, so it probably isn't worth it", etc.

When you build a social circle and try to make connections with people, you need to think about it as a long-term investment. You need to take each incremental step as a means of building a foundation that will pay out in the LONG-TERM. The goal is to draw people into a circle that you are building, or more likely, to use it as a way into an existing circle.

You need to be comfortable to use some of your $$ as a TOOL to get your way into the door. This means going to spots with expensive as fuck drinks, buying some drinks for a pregame or postgame at your place (even if you don't get laid that night), or even buying a bottle at a promoter table to get tight with a promoter/host.

Here's a personal story:

A few years back, I went out with a buddy of mine, his "model" ex-girl who he was still cool with and was hot as hell, and one of her friends. We went to a club where she knew a promoter and got us inside. While at the promoter table (a free table where people who know the promoter can hang out), the liquor ran low, and my buddy and I drunkenly decided to split a bottle for the table to keep the party going. Here's the short-term and long-term consequences of this action.

Short-term:
-- It was expensive as fuck, esp at the time since I was just out of college. Like $350 each for a fifth of Goose. And each of us only got like 2 shots cause we split the bottle with the others at the table. For that price I could've bought a round-trip ticket to Hawaii.

-- Both girls got sloppy wasted, so neither of us got laid that night. We didn't fuck any other girls at the table either. I think I got a number from one that went nowhere. So zero pussy return.

Long-term:
-- The next day, my friends "model" girl hit us up telling us how grateful they were for taking them out, and invited us the following night to go on a Hummer limo with them, 10 of her model friends (all of whom were 8s and up), and 2 gay guys. We spent the night partying at a few clubs and at a mansion afterparty in Hollywood. I made out with two of the girls at the same time in the limo, and though I failed to get a threesome, I pulled one of the girls home. To this day one of the hottest girls I've ever pulled, and one of the most memorable nights of my life. And I didn't spend a penny.

-- I got her promoter's contact into, he thanked me for buying the bottle and making him look good, and invited me to that club each weekend for the next 3 months. Occasional $20 cover (basically a handshake) and free drinks at his table the whole night to be at one of the most exclusive clubs in the city with BAD bitches

In short, if I look at the short-term outcomes, spending $350 on that bottle was an complete waste of money. But if I look at the long-term outcomes, it was worth every penny and then some. I'd make that investment any day. Wouldn't you?

regarding the bolded part.

how do you know this?

how do you know a guy making lets say 1 mil a month has girls begging for his attention?

and when you say girls we are talking the hottest girls right?

meaning instagram model hot level.

how do you know girls like that are throwing themselves at super rich guys?

And does it matter how old this super rich guy is or what he looks like or you are saying when you get to that level of money nothing else matters and you are fucking 9s and 10s every night if you want to?

Post: #160

(10-22-2018 12:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  Hey brother, about weightlifting and muscles I also thought that it had not a very big impact .

Like you, I'm black, I have broad shoulders and carried a reasonable good amount of muscle mass naturally (the last two being correlated to a good response to strength training).

I started starting strength novice linear progression six months ago and missed only 4 training sessions. Never did something as physically challenging. I started out at 185 pounds, athletic, very low fat percentage (I'm 6'2). I'm now 220 pounds, musclular. Of course I added a little fat, but it has spread out nicely, abs are still visible.

It' only 3 times a week, 1 hour 30 to max 2 hours.

Not everyone has the same training sensitivity but it's worth trying. There is a very wide spectrum from non-responders to genetic freaks.

It would make a BIG difference with women, I guarantee you.

wait are you serious?

you put on 35 pounds of mostly muscle in 6 months?

I'm currently 6 feet, 190, 15-18% body fat

Currently im trying to get into single digit body fat.

I was planning to then just stay like that but if its possible to put on muscle as fast as you say then I should probably do it.

can you give more details on what you mean by "BIG" difference with women?

All the guys I know who are muscular and fuck a lot of girls are all muscular and also tall.

In my experience just muscle alone doesn't really help.

I dont remember ever meeting any short (5-9 or under) super muscular guy who fucked a lot of girls.

I'm under 5'9", muscular, and have fucked 15-20 girls a year for the past few years, while spending almost no time on girls and I am a beginner at actual technical "Game". If I didn't have the body I would probably be an incel as I have a shit face and no hair. Muscle matters a lot. Especially for Instagram/Tinder.

(10-22-2018 12:23 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  thank you for this comment.

regarding the wardrobe.

I'm actually surprised not a lot of people have mentioned that.

Currently I buy most of my clothes at H&M and Zara and the occasional stuff like shoes at Nordstrom.

what do you think of that?

do you think i would attract significantly more/hotter girls if I upgraded my clothes to let's say Hugo Boss level?

Fit and style matter more than brands in general. It's impossible to know without seeing photos. Feel free to PM me some fit pics and I can critique.

(10-22-2018 12:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  I can tell from what you wrote here that you are probably someone else at this level in a similar industry.

I also like the part where you talk about not having people dirty up your nice place.

Thats what keeps coming to my mind when people keep telling me to get a really nice place and host these parties/gatherings.

The wear and tear on the place from hosting all these events would be bad.

You make 40,000 a month. Who cares about wear and tear? Hire a maid and a maintenance man. Wear and tear is the silliest reason to cop out of building the social circle that way. It's the equivalent of not fucking a girl because you don't want her to soak your sheets.

Post: #161

this guy ain't bright enough to be making 40k a month, that's for sure.

i say ban his ass for wasting the forum's time

Post: #162

(10-22-2018 08:04 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  this guy ain't bright enough to be making 40k a month, that's for sure.

i say ban his ass for wasting the forum's time

I agree, He's trolling. We've given it enough energy at this point

Post: #163

(10-22-2018 02:04 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 12:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  Hey brother, about weightlifting and muscles I also thought that it had not a very big impact .

Like you, I'm black, I have broad shoulders and carried a reasonable good amount of muscle mass naturally (the last two being correlated to a good response to strength training).

I started starting strength novice linear progression six months ago and missed only 4 training sessions. Never did something as physically challenging. I started out at 185 pounds, athletic, very low fat percentage (I'm 6'2). I'm now 220 pounds, musclular. Of course I added a little fat, but it has spread out nicely, abs are still visible.

It' only 3 times a week, 1 hour 30 to max 2 hours.

Not everyone has the same training sensitivity but it's worth trying. There is a very wide spectrum from non-responders to genetic freaks.

It would make a BIG difference with women, I guarantee you.

wait are you serious?

you put on 35 pounds of mostly muscle in 6 months?

I'm currently 6 feet, 190, 15-18% body fat

Currently im trying to get into single digit body fat.

I was planning to then just stay like that but if its possible to put on muscle as fast as you say then I should probably do it.

can you give more details on what you mean by "BIG" difference with women?

All the guys I know who are muscular and fuck a lot of girls are all muscular and also tall.

In my experience just muscle alone doesn't really help.

I dont remember ever meeting any short (5-9 or under) super muscular guy who fucked a lot of girls.

I'm under 5'9", muscular, and have fucked 15-20 girls a year for the past few years, while spending almost no time on girls and I am a beginner at actual technical "Game". If I didn't have the body I would probably be an incel as I have a shit face and no hair. Muscle matters a lot. Especially for Instagram/Tinder.

(10-22-2018 12:23 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  thank you for this comment.

regarding the wardrobe.

I'm actually surprised not a lot of people have mentioned that.

Currently I buy most of my clothes at H&M and Zara and the occasional stuff like shoes at Nordstrom.

what do you think of that?

do you think i would attract significantly more/hotter girls if I upgraded my clothes to let's say Hugo Boss level?

Fit and style matter more than brands in general. It's impossible to know without seeing photos. Feel free to PM me some fit pics and I can critique.

(10-22-2018 12:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  I can tell from what you wrote here that you are probably someone else at this level in a similar industry.

I also like the part where you talk about not having people dirty up your nice place.

Thats what keeps coming to my mind when people keep telling me to get a really nice place and host these parties/gatherings.

The wear and tear on the place from hosting all these events would be bad.

You make 40,000 a month. Who cares about wear and tear? Hire a maid and a maintenance man. Wear and tear is the silliest reason to cop out of building the social circle that way. It's the equivalent of not fucking a girl because you don't want her to soak your sheets.

Not just that, but hiring a maid and maintenance man will allow you to spend more time focusing on your business. Assuming you are making that much, your time is too valuable to be dusting corners and shit. Outsource the activities that add no value to your life, unless if you find cleaning stress relief or something.

Post: #164

(10-22-2018 08:04 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  this guy ain't bright enough to be making 40k a month, that's for sure.

i say ban his ass for wasting the forum's time

Some of the things hes saying is making outright no sense.

Veterans in the area he looking to have success in have pretty much given him the keys to the castle and hes still questioning everything we have to say.

40K and fighting with people in a nightclub. You gotta be kidding me. With that kinda money you shouldn't even be dealing with those types of people.

Talking about wear and tear on an apartment with that kind of money LOL.

Maybe hes one of those types who is super smart in just one specific area and deficient in others.

Post: #165

(10-22-2018 10:55 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 08:04 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  this guy ain't bright enough to be making 40k a month, that's for sure.

i say ban his ass for wasting the forum's time

Some of the things hes saying is making outright no sense.

Veterans in the area he looking to have success in have pretty much given him the keys to the castle and hes still questioning everything we have to say.

40K and fighting with people in a nightclub. You gotta be kidding me. With that kinda money you shouldn't even be dealing with those types of people.

Talking about wear and tear on an apartment with that kind of money LOL.

Maybe hes one of those types who is super smart in just one specific area and deficient in others.

based on everything he's written i wouldn't even consider him as a beta bucks orbiter for my social circle let alone an actual card carrying member. dudes seems like a cheap ass lame. there i said it. the only reason im saying that is he comes off hella douchey and doesn't answer direction questions. nobody likes a god damn knowitall

Post: #166

The 40K (or $40 000, as this Indian born IRT writes) is just a device in the story to draw your attention over in one direction and away from the obvious fact that he is a troll at a minimum and perhaps some sort of sad incel looking for attention online. Because you the reading audience are either fascinated by, jealous of, or celebrate his success you forget to see the clues that this solitary line stated by the OP is the only evidence you have of it being true. All the other indicators - as kirdiesel points out above - contradict this bold specific round amount claimed by the OP.

The amazon marketplace doesn't lend itself to margins of 40-50%. The reality is sellers undercut each other and sell items for a dollar profit or less. The faster an items sells the more players are willing to make a slim margin, the slower an item sells the larger the inventory and tied up money is needed. I am sure there are people making 40K profit on amazon but if you have ever met a go getter who pushes beyond scraping by and making themselves a job, they have a lot of things they do and don't do. Do any of them match the OP behaviour? I'm not in that business but my guess is you would need to turn 500K a month in really prime merchandise to get this kind of profit after amazon fees. And since profit means after fees and costs yes AFTER amazon fees. You would need to be a sharp cookie to get the nice grey market deals like packages of 500 nikkon camera bodies priced at a level you could blow them out in a month and make $100 a piece - to make the kind of profit the OP claims. Do you realize how sharp, connected and cash ready you have to be to even get these deals? Do you realize how quickly you have to think and solve problems to maintain such an online sales empire that depends on another site (amazon) ? Our OP is a sad excuse for sharp, connected and ready. He is none of these, but envies those that are by pretending to be online.

The previous BPD IRT trolls who were banned, pargan, darlten, and dodo8 all came on strong in the black game thread trying to focus the conversation on some meaningless specific race trolling regarding Indian women / black men. This account opened up on his first post saying he joined to discuss black men / Indian women "issues." When he was called out he ran off to this new thread.

OP has no clue about money in any way, and did not "stumble on" a way to make a 40k a month profit. Stop giving people the benefit of the doubt. The only thing he is "motivated" to do is make another troll account when he gets banned again.

Post: #167

(10-22-2018 12:55 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  regarding the bolded part.

how do you know this?

how do you know a guy making lets say 1 mil a month has girls begging for his attention?

and when you say girls we are talking the hottest girls right?

meaning instagram model hot level.

how do you know girls like that are throwing themselves at super rich guys?

And does it matter how old this super rich guy is or what he looks like or you are saying when you get to that level of money nothing else matters and you are fucking 9s and 10s every night if you want to?

Wall Street Playboys' guideline of 5-10x the average income in your area will grant access to 9+ is about right.

And my experience is that 15-50x seems to be the level in which 9+ skank models will "throw themselves" (whatever that means for them) at you. (I'd assume that it's probably in the 100x range that 9+ medical students will, but I don't know.)

When I lived in Bangkok, I was pulling in ~$500k pretax (around 33x the average income) and I regularly had all the top international DJ chicks / UK and Euro models / Hiso (ish) girls I wanted (what I consider to be the top shelf, anyway) lining up to by my side piece. And I was 43 at the time. (I was in pretty decent shape and I have very solid game, for what it's worth.)

In contrast, when I was in Vancouver at 44, I pulled in ~$750k and I noticed that while women were very friendly to me, it wasn't the same as BKK. Girls weren't begging to be my side piece any more, just trying to steal me from my gf.

In contrast, I know an Indian guy who's out of shape and in his 50s who owns a casino and every girl I've ever seen him with was stunning and I've overheard 9s say they would date him. I've never seen these girls making out with him in a club, but they seem to be ok with demonstrations of a relationship (something that would embarrass me, if I were them).

I know another middle eastern guy who owns a bunch of restaurants in the same city who's gf makes ~$70k a year as a sales type at a private bank, is a 33 year old who's in good shape and was a 9 in her 20s when she started dating him. She's begging to be his baby mama because she's scared of losing him to the array of servers that offer themselves up. He's in his 50s and has the stomach of a guy who owns 7 high end eateries.

In contrast, my personal trainer looks like a greek god, has been on several reality shows, and gets invited to celebrity stuff all the time. He has a roommate at 33 and constantly bitches about how he can't meet girls and how all girls care about is money.....

In another contrast, I know an Indian guy in San Francisco - successful entrepreneur - multiple $3mm residences, Lambo, Ferrari, even a fucking yacht and dude couldn't get laid in a women's prison. Because he's rich, he gets invited to a lot of stuff, but every woman finds him creepy. (Very aspy, I think..)

Other than real estate, While I'm not the flashiest guy I know, I think that you need to demonstrate your value / wealth.

In today's world, I think the best demonstrations pretty much are, in order of power:
1. Already having a under 30, 8+ gf / wife who's down for threesomes (Very hard to get, but pretty much the trump card)
2. Instagram that shows high-end experiences, exotic travel, attractive people.
3. Residential real estate that is 3x the average value of property in the area.
4. $100k+ automobile.
5. Being in excellent shape
6. Being really tan
7. $15k+ watch

Post: #168

Slightly off topic but OP the best thing you can do to mitigate taxes is move to Puerto Rico. Act 20 gets you a 4% corporate rate and 0% individual taxes on all the dividends you pay out to yourself. I also own an e-commerce business and I'm saving a shitload in taxes. It's unreal. There are about 3,000 people here from the states in the Act 20 program so it's an instant social circle. We have an e-commerce meetup every couple of months. The people in our group are mostly 8 figure/year revenue business owners. One guy is approaching 9 figures. Very high level people and the locals love to have fun so you get the best of both worlds with very serious business owners as well as women that love to drink on the beach in their thong bikinis. PM me if you want a tax attorney contact.

Post: #169

(10-20-2018 02:10 PM)Stickman Wrote:  

(10-20-2018 01:26 PM)Dodgy Wrote:  Well OP is most likely a troll and isn't coming back, which is a shame because there's been some good advice in this thread that will likely never be acted upon. But I've given this some thought and here's some ideas I've been contemplating because I'm very interested in making this happen in the near future.

One way is to throw small parties. I was looking at AirBnB in Los Angeles and you can get a beachfront property in Malibu or the Pacific Palisades for 1k a night. And you get mansions on the top of Hollywood Hills for 1k to 3k a night. Or you can charter a small yacht out in Newport Harbor for about 5k and have a yacht party.

I would imagine that if you and couple of good buddies got 5 girls to come to your yacht party or your Malibu beach party, then everyone's getting laid.

The problem is getting hot girls to these parties when you or your close friends don't have the social circle to get them there. That's the big question.

My second idea would be to rent warehouse space or event space and throw private events but on a larger scale.

I was thinking renting warehouse space to throw a private, invite-only EDM party using social media to invite people. I would hire security, stock a bar, charge a small cover and take a small cut from the drug sales in the bathroom. Then I could have a VIP area reserved for me, some friends and the hottest girls at the event.

Or I can rent event space and throw events that girls like. Maybe a fashion event, a wine tasting event, or a "big dog" show or a better yet, a big dog and tattoo show. You could also use Eventbrite to promote it.

I would imagine I would need to invest 8k to 12k to throw the bigger events, but at least I can try to recoup that money from door sales to break even.

But I wouldn't mind losing money because I would consider it an investment in my social status and social circle. Connections I would make from throwing these events would most likely lead to future invites or opportunities.

But the big question is how to get the hottest girls to these events...

If you don't already have girls in your life or game and most importantly a lifestyle to keep them, you're essentially putting the cart before the horse.

To get access to these hot girls, you need to provide value first or a perception that you have value. You need to pull them into your world. You need an angle to achieve this.

The best way to show value without coming off bragging in 2018 is to have a curated IG. Most girls are on IG posting stories daily. Most guys don't because they either don't have an interesting life, no money or no friends. Use your money to create a lifestyle that are interesting and luxurious. Do it because it feels awesome to live such a lifestyle, don't do it because it will impress girls even if that's all you want but have some substance and not focus on just girls. Girl's love good food, you should love good food too (who wouldn't?) take pictures of food of fancy restaurants you've been to, hotels you've stayed at, trips you've taken.

Invest in a camera. Photography is the easiest access to IG girls. Learn how to use it well and start taking photos of girls. Once you have enough of a portfolio. Start promoting your IG. You have money right? buy ads to your IG. Try to get a few hundred thousand IG followers. Once you reach over 100k followers, you're now an influencer. You can now contact most girls and get a reply since you're perceived as important. Girls now want a piece of your followers pie and be a part of your awesome life.

Now you have an army of IG models to invite to your parties but don't bite the hand that feeds you. Treat your models with care. If words gets out that you're sleazy, you're done. Use your models to gain access to her hot friends, other men with access to more girls, random girls at parties will see you with hot girls will come to you. Girls will hit you up to shoot with you. Now you have this vortex of girls and guys with girls.

You don't want to use AirBNB to throw parties. If you get too many complaints, you will get banned. You better off using Hotels instead. You can rent a suite with a living room to near the club to pre-party and get bottle service at that club and bring the girls back for after party.

Amazing answer, it is kind of what I said in this thread before, although with a different niche.

A couple of questions I have regarding your answer:

Do you have real experience in something like this?

Would you charge the girls for the photos or just do it for fun?
I understand this answer is under the assumption that the OP already has a good income that and he doesn't work many hours a week but I can imagine that this niche of taking pictures of girls frequently might be time consuming if you have a full time job.

Can you really throw parties inside a hotel room? I mean I understand that they usually give you a limit of the people who can get in and reading your post I get the idea that you talk about inviting around 10 people or something like that. Seriously I think a big chain hotel won't be happy at all with that because they tend to have more rules and they probably wouldn't like a lot of people making noise and annoying other guests. Maybe in a smaller hotel it can work.

Post: #170

(10-22-2018 11:42 AM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 12:55 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  regarding the bolded part.

how do you know this?

how do you know a guy making lets say 1 mil a month has girls begging for his attention?

and when you say girls we are talking the hottest girls right?

meaning instagram model hot level.

how do you know girls like that are throwing themselves at super rich guys?

And does it matter how old this super rich guy is or what he looks like or you are saying when you get to that level of money nothing else matters and you are fucking 9s and 10s every night if you want to?

Wall Street Playboys' guideline of 5-10x the average income in your area will grant access to 9+ is about right.

And my experience is that 15-50x seems to be the level in which 9+ skank models will "throw themselves" (whatever that means for them) at you. (I'd assume that it's probably in the 100x range that 9+ medical students will, but I don't know.)

When I lived in Bangkok, I was pulling in ~$500k pretax (around 33x the average income) and I regularly had all the top international DJ chicks / UK and Euro models / Hiso (ish) girls I wanted (what I consider to be the top shelf, anyway) lining up to by my side piece. And I was 43 at the time. (I was in pretty decent shape and I have very solid game, for what it's worth.)

In contrast, when I was in Vancouver at 44, I pulled in ~$750k and I noticed that while women were very friendly to me, it wasn't the same as BKK. Girls weren't begging to be my side piece any more, just trying to steal me from my gf.

In contrast, I know an Indian guy who's out of shape and in his 50s who owns a casino and every girl I've ever seen him with was stunning and I've overheard 9s say they would date him. I've never seen these girls making out with him in a club, but they seem to be ok with demonstrations of a relationship (something that would embarrass me, if I were them).

I know another middle eastern guy who owns a bunch of restaurants in the same city who's gf makes ~$70k a year as a sales type at a private bank, is a 33 year old who's in good shape and was a 9 in her 20s when she started dating him. She's begging to be his baby mama because she's scared of losing him to the array of servers that offer themselves up. He's in his 50s and has the stomach of a guy who owns 7 high end eateries.

In contrast, my personal trainer looks like a greek god, has been on several reality shows, and gets invited to celebrity stuff all the time. He has a roommate at 33 and constantly bitches about how he can't meet girls and how all girls care about is money.....

In another contrast, I know an Indian guy in San Francisco - successful entrepreneur - multiple $3mm residences, Lambo, Ferrari, even a fucking yacht and dude couldn't get laid in a women's prison. Because he's rich, he gets invited to a lot of stuff, but every woman finds him creepy. (Very aspy, I think..)

Other than real estate, While I'm not the flashiest guy I know, I think that you need to demonstrate your value / wealth.

In today's world, I think the best demonstrations pretty much are, in order of power:
1. Already having a under 30, 8+ gf / wife who's down for threesomes (Very hard to get, but pretty much the trump card)
2. Instagram that shows high-end experiences, exotic travel, attractive people.
3. Residential real estate that is 3x the average value of property in the area.
4. $100k+ automobile.
5. Being in excellent shape
6. Being really tan
7. $15k+ watch

This is a really interesting post. When you were in Bangkok/Vancouver, how were you displaying that wealth? How were you finding these girls, or how were they finding you? How did they know how much money you had?

I live in San Francisco and I can tell you from experience in this sexual marketplace that the story of the Indian guy is not a surprise. This is a culture that values emotions and experiences over money, and it's also a culture where there are a ton of people richer than you everywhere. Said Indian guy could probably do a lot better in another city (although, that applies to every guy living in San Francisco).

Post: #171

Quote:Amazing answer, it is kind of what I said in this thread before, although with a different niche.

A couple of questions I have regarding your answer:

Do you have real experience in something like this?

Would you charge the girls for the photos or just do it for fun?
I understand this answer is under the assumption that the OP already has a good income that and he doesn't work many hours a week but I can imagine that this niche of taking pictures of girls frequently might be time consuming if you have a full time job.

Can you really throw parties inside a hotel room? I mean I understand that they usually give you a limit of the people who can get in and reading your post I get the idea that you talk about inviting around 10 people or something like that. Seriously I think a big chain hotel won't be happy at all with that because they tend to have more rules and they probably wouldn't like a lot of people making noise and annoying other guests. Maybe in a smaller hotel it can work.

I pretty much don't do online or approaches anymore, it's purely lifestyle and social game now. It's not as easy as it sound though. You have to be at least a pleasant guy to be around. If you're anything like OP, you won't even have guy friends around you let alone girls.

I don't charge girls for photo shoot. It's TFP (trade for portfolio) but I'm transitioning into something I can make money out of. I don't recommend making money out of it until you have a large following. One day I will make a datasheet about this.

You can definitely throw parties in a Hotel room. We had 30-50 people in the room at once but we had a huge suite. Hotels have pretty great sound proof, especially the 5 star ones so noise isn't an issue unless you blast the music really loud and obviously keep it down past 1 am or something. There are also Hotels that are catered to nightlife with their own bar on the rooftop. You can get away with a lot of noise in these kind of hotels.

Post: #172

(10-22-2018 02:04 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 12:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  Hey brother, about weightlifting and muscles I also thought that it had not a very big impact .

Like you, I'm black, I have broad shoulders and carried a reasonable good amount of muscle mass naturally (the last two being correlated to a good response to strength training).

I started starting strength novice linear progression six months ago and missed only 4 training sessions. Never did something as physically challenging. I started out at 185 pounds, athletic, very low fat percentage (I'm 6'2). I'm now 220 pounds, musclular. Of course I added a little fat, but it has spread out nicely, abs are still visible.

It' only 3 times a week, 1 hour 30 to max 2 hours.

Not everyone has the same training sensitivity but it's worth trying. There is a very wide spectrum from non-responders to genetic freaks.

It would make a BIG difference with women, I guarantee you.

wait are you serious?

you put on 35 pounds of mostly muscle in 6 months?

I'm currently 6 feet, 190, 15-18% body fat

Currently im trying to get into single digit body fat.

I was planning to then just stay like that but if its possible to put on muscle as fast as you say then I should probably do it.

can you give more details on what you mean by "BIG" difference with women?

All the guys I know who are muscular and fuck a lot of girls are all muscular and also tall.

In my experience just muscle alone doesn't really help.

I dont remember ever meeting any short (5-9 or under) super muscular guy who fucked a lot of girls.

I'm under 5'9", muscular, and have fucked 15-20 girls a year for the past few years, while spending almost no time on girls and I am a beginner at actual technical "Game". If I didn't have the body I would probably be an incel as I have a shit face and no hair. Muscle matters a lot. Especially for Instagram/Tinder.

(10-22-2018 12:23 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  thank you for this comment.

regarding the wardrobe.

I'm actually surprised not a lot of people have mentioned that.

Currently I buy most of my clothes at H&M and Zara and the occasional stuff like shoes at Nordstrom.

what do you think of that?

do you think i would attract significantly more/hotter girls if I upgraded my clothes to let's say Hugo Boss level?

Fit and style matter more than brands in general. It's impossible to know without seeing photos. Feel free to PM me some fit pics and I can critique.

(10-22-2018 12:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  I can tell from what you wrote here that you are probably someone else at this level in a similar industry.

I also like the part where you talk about not having people dirty up your nice place.

Thats what keeps coming to my mind when people keep telling me to get a really nice place and host these parties/gatherings.

The wear and tear on the place from hosting all these events would be bad.

You make 40,000 a month. Who cares about wear and tear? Hire a maid and a maintenance man. Wear and tear is the silliest reason to cop out of building the social circle that way. It's the equivalent of not fucking a girl because you don't want her to soak your sheets.

regarding bolded part.

I'm assuming you fuck all these girls from online game.

I have pretty much no experience with online so I cannot comment.

How do you do in nightclubs?

How do you do at work/school/social circle?

Also, how old are you?

how old are the girls you are fucking?

Post: #173

(10-22-2018 11:41 AM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  The 40K (or $40 000, as this Indian born IRT writes) is just a device in the story to draw your attention over in one direction and away from the obvious fact that he is a troll at a minimum and perhaps some sort of sad incel looking for attention online. Because you the reading audience are either fascinated by, jealous of, or celebrate his success you forget to see the clues that this solitary line stated by the OP is the only evidence you have of it being true. All the other indicators - as kirdiesel points out above - contradict this bold specific round amount claimed by the OP.

The amazon marketplace doesn't lend itself to margins of 40-50%. The reality is sellers undercut each other and sell items for a dollar profit or less. The faster an items sells the more players are willing to make a slim margin, the slower an item sells the larger the inventory and tied up money is needed. I am sure there are people making 40K profit on amazon but if you have ever met a go getter who pushes beyond scraping by and making themselves a job, they have a lot of things they do and don't do. Do any of them match the OP behaviour? I'm not in that business but my guess is you would need to turn 500K a month in really prime merchandise to get this kind of profit after amazon fees. And since profit means after fees and costs yes AFTER amazon fees. You would need to be a sharp cookie to get the nice grey market deals like packages of 500 nikkon camera bodies priced at a level you could blow them out in a month and make $100 a piece - to make the kind of profit the OP claims. Do you realize how sharp, connected and cash ready you have to be to even get these deals? Do you realize how quickly you have to think and solve problems to maintain such an online sales empire that depends on another site (amazon) ? Our OP is a sad excuse for sharp, connected and ready. He is none of these, but envies those that are by pretending to be online.

The previous BPD IRT trolls who were banned, pargan, darlten, and dodo8 all came on strong in the black game thread trying to focus the conversation on some meaningless specific race trolling regarding Indian women / black men. This account opened up on his first post saying he joined to discuss black men / Indian women "issues." When he was called out he ran off to this new thread.

OP has no clue about money in any way, and did not "stumble on" a way to make a 40k a month profit. Stop giving people the benefit of the doubt. The only thing he is "motivated" to do is make another troll account when he gets banned again.

I'm black not indian.

No I'm not an indian former member who was banned.

yes i have very strong attraction to brown/indian girls.

Yes I would have probably never joined this forum if it was not for my frustration in trying to fuck brown/indian girls.

I stopped posting on the black thread because no on there located in NA is consistently fucking brown/indian girls.

Only black guys in London had any success worth mentioning with these girls.

Post: #174

(10-22-2018 11:42 AM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 12:55 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  regarding the bolded part.

how do you know this?

how do you know a guy making lets say 1 mil a month has girls begging for his attention?

and when you say girls we are talking the hottest girls right?

meaning instagram model hot level.

how do you know girls like that are throwing themselves at super rich guys?

And does it matter how old this super rich guy is or what he looks like or you are saying when you get to that level of money nothing else matters and you are fucking 9s and 10s every night if you want to?

Wall Street Playboys' guideline of 5-10x the average income in your area will grant access to 9+ is about right.

And my experience is that 15-50x seems to be the level in which 9+ skank models will "throw themselves" (whatever that means for them) at you. (I'd assume that it's probably in the 100x range that 9+ medical students will, but I don't know.)

When I lived in Bangkok, I was pulling in ~$500k pretax (around 33x the average income) and I regularly had all the top international DJ chicks / UK and Euro models / Hiso (ish) girls I wanted (what I consider to be the top shelf, anyway) lining up to by my side piece. And I was 43 at the time. (I was in pretty decent shape and I have very solid game, for what it's worth.)

In contrast, when I was in Vancouver at 44, I pulled in ~$750k and I noticed that while women were very friendly to me, it wasn't the same as BKK. Girls weren't begging to be my side piece any more, just trying to steal me from my gf.

In contrast, I know an Indian guy who's out of shape and in his 50s who owns a casino and every girl I've ever seen him with was stunning and I've overheard 9s say they would date him. I've never seen these girls making out with him in a club, but they seem to be ok with demonstrations of a relationship (something that would embarrass me, if I were them).

I know another middle eastern guy who owns a bunch of restaurants in the same city who's gf makes ~$70k a year as a sales type at a private bank, is a 33 year old who's in good shape and was a 9 in her 20s when she started dating him. She's begging to be his baby mama because she's scared of losing him to the array of servers that offer themselves up. He's in his 50s and has the stomach of a guy who owns 7 high end eateries.

In contrast, my personal trainer looks like a greek god, has been on several reality shows, and gets invited to celebrity stuff all the time. He has a roommate at 33 and constantly bitches about how he can't meet girls and how all girls care about is money.....

In another contrast, I know an Indian guy in San Francisco - successful entrepreneur - multiple $3mm residences, Lambo, Ferrari, even a fucking yacht and dude couldn't get laid in a women's prison. Because he's rich, he gets invited to a lot of stuff, but every woman finds him creepy. (Very aspy, I think..)

Other than real estate, While I'm not the flashiest guy I know, I think that you need to demonstrate your value / wealth.

In today's world, I think the best demonstrations pretty much are, in order of power:
1. Already having a under 30, 8+ gf / wife who's down for threesomes (Very hard to get, but pretty much the trump card)
2. Instagram that shows high-end experiences, exotic travel, attractive people.
3. Residential real estate that is 3x the average value of property in the area.
4. $100k+ automobile.
5. Being in excellent shape
6. Being really tan
7. $15k+ watch

thank you for this very interesting comment.

what is your definition of "9+ shank models throwing themselves at you"?

so at this level of money how much work/time is involved in fucking girls that hot?

Let's say a guy is in his late 20s and he has that 50x average income you talk about

and lets say he only cares about fucking as many instagram level hot girls as possible.

how much work would be needed for him to fuck 5-10 girls like this each month?

And can you please breakdown exactly how these lays would go down in this scenario?

how do they meet? when and how does he escalate to sex?

Also, regarding your trainer who looks like a greek god and cannot get laid.

how is that possible in 2018 with online dating?

I'm assuming a guy who looks like a greek god can fuck several hot girls a week just off tinder.

am i wrong to assume this?

Post: #175

(10-22-2018 09:14 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 02:04 AM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-22-2018 12:12 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-17-2018 12:06 PM)Lermontov Wrote:  Hey brother, about weightlifting and muscles I also thought that it had not a very big impact .

Like you, I'm black, I have broad shoulders and carried a reasonable good amount of muscle mass naturally (the last two being correlated to a good response to strength training).

I started starting strength novice linear progression six months ago and missed only 4 training sessions. Never did something as physically challenging. I started out at 185 pounds, athletic, very low fat percentage (I'm 6'2). I'm now 220 pounds, musclular. Of course I added a little fat, but it has spread out nicely, abs are still visible.

It' only 3 times a week, 1 hour 30 to max 2 hours.

Not everyone has the same training sensitivity but it's worth trying. There is a very wide spectrum from non-responders to genetic freaks.

It would make a BIG difference with women, I guarantee you.

wait are you serious?

you put on 35 pounds of mostly muscle in 6 months?

I'm currently 6 feet, 190, 15-18% body fat

Currently im trying to get into single digit body fat.

I was planning to then just stay like that but if its possible to put on muscle as fast as you say then I should probably do it.

can you give more details on what you mean by "BIG" difference with women?

All the guys I know who are muscular and fuck a lot of girls are all muscular and also tall.

In my experience just muscle alone doesn't really help.

I dont remember ever meeting any short (5-9 or under) super muscular guy who fucked a lot of girls.

I'm under 5'9", muscular, and have fucked 15-20 girls a year for the past few years, while spending almost no time on girls and I am a beginner at actual technical "Game". If I didn't have the body I would probably be an incel as I have a shit face and no hair. Muscle matters a lot. Especially for Instagram/Tinder.

(10-22-2018 12:23 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  thank you for this comment.

regarding the wardrobe.

I'm actually surprised not a lot of people have mentioned that.

Currently I buy most of my clothes at H&M and Zara and the occasional stuff like shoes at Nordstrom.

what do you think of that?

do you think i would attract significantly more/hotter girls if I upgraded my clothes to let's say Hugo Boss level?

Fit and style matter more than brands in general. It's impossible to know without seeing photos. Feel free to PM me some fit pics and I can critique.

(10-22-2018 12:19 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  I can tell from what you wrote here that you are probably someone else at this level in a similar industry.

I also like the part where you talk about not having people dirty up your nice place.

Thats what keeps coming to my mind when people keep telling me to get a really nice place and host these parties/gatherings.

The wear and tear on the place from hosting all these events would be bad.

You make 40,000 a month. Who cares about wear and tear? Hire a maid and a maintenance man. Wear and tear is the silliest reason to cop out of building the social circle that way. It's the equivalent of not fucking a girl because you don't want her to soak your sheets.

regarding bolded part.

I'm assuming you fuck all these girls from online game.

I have pretty much no experience with online so I cannot comment.

How do you do in nightclubs?

How do you do at work/school/social circle?

Also, how old are you?

how old are the girls you are fucking?

Yes, they are 95% online. I don't do well in clubs (although no guy does in San Francisco) and I don't fuck in my social circle on purpose.

I'm 31 and fucking 18-22 year olds primarily. 6s and 7s. 8s are out of reach due to my looks and lack of social circle/status.