Post: #51

Laner gave you good advice (maybe not the drugs part) You have the same hang up most of us do at that age. You're still caught up in the game phase and have a shit tons of "principle" but you don't understand the logic behind it.

You think somehow buying drinks or popping bottles is somehow akin P4P. That is ridiculous. You may have the money but you don't have the mindset of a rich successful person yet.

You have to give value to get value. Otherwise, you'll just be another young guy with great logistics because you have money but you still have to grind like the rest of them to get laid.

Post: #52

(10-15-2018 09:01 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 08:41 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:33 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:21 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  For fitness, boxing did amazing things for me and I truly loved it, I recommend giving it another go. Trainer quality/attitude is very uneven. If you want to PM me your city and the kind of coaching your respond best to, I might even be able to recommend someone that suits your style better. I could also send you some pics of a physique I built from 95% fight sports and 5% lifting, to give you an idea of what a guy without good genetics can achieve with fightsports and even the most minimal lifting program.

I would say a lot of the classic solutions (like opening a cool nightclub) are a lot of work with no guarantee of success, and would be enough work and headache that it would distract you from the stuff you are truly great at.

I'm not in any way supporting or suggesting P4P, but you're in the perfect income bracket to bang endless coeds from S.A. WITHOUT PAYING. The guys that don't actually have the wealthy person gear/lifestyle end up spending money to make up for it. You're the big fish everyone else is pretending to be, you earned it by the sweat of brow (your brain to be more specific) and what you're getting is simply your just due.

There's a guy that does little S.A. vacations in various cities. He lines up dozens of dates with the hottest prospects, makes as many dates as he can and absolutely crushes it. If they're really exceptional, he makes a return trip, or flies the girls out to where is (on the road or at home). Minimal chance of blowback since they don't live in his city (or even know where it is).

wow thank you for this great comment.

Regarding boxing. Honestly, another big factor in me quitting is I was very worried of brain damage if I really got into it seriously. I know some people train boxing but never spar but to me that seems completely stupid since how can you tell if you are getting better if you never actually fight. So it was not only the bad trainer, it was also my worries about damaging my brain if I really did it seriously.

Regarding SA. you are now the 2nd person to suggest this to me. I've known about SA for several years now but it always seemed to me like a really complicated way for guys doing P4P to get laid while lying to themselves/pretending that they are not doing P4P. But I guess I will start researching this strategy.

Would you mind giving a brief explanation of how someone like me would do SA game without actually doing P4P?

Also, keep in mind that I'm black so not sure if/how that changes the effectiveness of this strategy.

thanks again for your comment

To do SA without PfP just follow the outline laid down by the experts in our SA thread. Essentially, you start by pre-screening very heavily that you're NOT into p4p, that you don't want a prostitute, you want a genuine and classy girl to share your lifestyle. When she does awkwardly bring up her "allowance", you get a really disgusted look on your face and say "I thought i made it clear, I'm NOT LOOKING FOR PROSTITUTE." She starts backpedaling, and then she essentially has to fuck you to prove she ISN'T a whore.

I know this sounds silly, but when you completely change to dating dynamic to one where YOU are the one being chased like a flawless blonde with perfect tits, it works. It's a little more complicated than this, but just read though the SA thread, and you'll see plenty of examples of guys pulling it off without pay.

To answer your other question, there are boxing coaches that concentrate on very light contact sparring (a few heavy sessions just so you lose your fear of punches, and everything after that is essentially touch sparring, just the pure technique of hitting without getting hit. Jiujitsu is also another great combat sport that will give you a great body and skills, without ever risking that amazing brain of yours. I know it's not as visually exciting and compelling as boxing, but we have a saying "An ugly art to watch, but a beautiful art to perform."

If you mixed them, you could have a lot of great power punching and technical skills from boxing, along with endless live wrestling with people in jiujitsu that will always let you know exactly where you stand wrestling with another man, and virtually no head trauma.

First, thanks again for another detailed post.

Regarding SA game; you've convinced me that here might something worthwhile with this angle so I will start researching and planning this angle this week.

One question I still have is me being black.

I'm assuming a big part of the SA strategy is you bait the girl by initially appearing to be a great potential provider/boyfriend?

From what I know usually girls look for black guys as more of the lover role in that lover/provider dynamic; i mean if i ask someone to think of some beta bucks/provider I think very few people will get the image of some black guy.

So basically how do you think me being black will play into this SA strategy.

Also, are guys fucking girls 25 and under with this SA strategy?

Yes.

Quote:Regarding jijutsu. thanks for suggesting this. I actually hired a guy to teach me this art a few years ago. he had a great reputation and had apparently trained under one of the gracies.

but then I showed up the first day and he tells me ill actually be training with one of his pupils as he is too busy teaching classes to do 1on1 with me. I insisted i wanted to train with him, he refused so i left and never thought about jijutsu again until today.

BTW, what are your thoughts on the people who criticize jijutsu saying its a terrible art for practical self defense since the last place you want to be in a street fight is on the ground.

Jiujitsu has it's limitations, as every art does, which is one of the reasons I suggested (and practice) more varied training. You've got the mobility, hard hitting, fast fight finishing ability of boxing, along with the jiujitsu ability to take it to the ground and be very dominant there if the tactical situation warrants it . It's also your safety net you if you're fighting a football player that knows how to finish a tackle, and can render all your boxing footwork, and ability to drive your body into your punches worthless because you're flat on you back already. If you also have jiujitsu, you can quickly submit him, decide to get on top, or even just stand up and give yourself another chance to box if that's what you want to do.

Quote:what are your thoughts on the people who criticize jijutsu saying its a terrible art for practical self defense since the last place you want to be in a street fight is on the ground.

There is some truth to it, but if the ground is such a horrible place to be in a fight, think of how much worse it is for the guy on the ground UNDERNEATH the groundfighting expert that is beating his roof in with one hand, and setting up a fight ending armlock with the other. He's on the ground too, only he's actively getting the shit kicked out him by a guy capable of breaking his arms and legs inside of 10 seconds.

Post: #53

(10-15-2018 10:08 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 09:01 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 08:41 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:33 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 06:21 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  For fitness, boxing did amazing things for me and I truly loved it, I recommend giving it another go. Trainer quality/attitude is very uneven. If you want to PM me your city and the kind of coaching your respond best to, I might even be able to recommend someone that suits your style better. I could also send you some pics of a physique I built from 95% fight sports and 5% lifting, to give you an idea of what a guy without good genetics can achieve with fightsports and even the most minimal lifting program.

I would say a lot of the classic solutions (like opening a cool nightclub) are a lot of work with no guarantee of success, and would be enough work and headache that it would distract you from the stuff you are truly great at.

I'm not in any way supporting or suggesting P4P, but you're in the perfect income bracket to bang endless coeds from S.A. WITHOUT PAYING. The guys that don't actually have the wealthy person gear/lifestyle end up spending money to make up for it. You're the big fish everyone else is pretending to be, you earned it by the sweat of brow (your brain to be more specific) and what you're getting is simply your just due.

There's a guy that does little S.A. vacations in various cities. He lines up dozens of dates with the hottest prospects, makes as many dates as he can and absolutely crushes it. If they're really exceptional, he makes a return trip, or flies the girls out to where is (on the road or at home). Minimal chance of blowback since they don't live in his city (or even know where it is).

wow thank you for this great comment.

Regarding boxing. Honestly, another big factor in me quitting is I was very worried of brain damage if I really got into it seriously. I know some people train boxing but never spar but to me that seems completely stupid since how can you tell if you are getting better if you never actually fight. So it was not only the bad trainer, it was also my worries about damaging my brain if I really did it seriously.

Regarding SA. you are now the 2nd person to suggest this to me. I've known about SA for several years now but it always seemed to me like a really complicated way for guys doing P4P to get laid while lying to themselves/pretending that they are not doing P4P. But I guess I will start researching this strategy.

Would you mind giving a brief explanation of how someone like me would do SA game without actually doing P4P?

Also, keep in mind that I'm black so not sure if/how that changes the effectiveness of this strategy.

thanks again for your comment

To do SA without PfP just follow the outline laid down by the experts in our SA thread. Essentially, you start by pre-screening very heavily that you're NOT into p4p, that you don't want a prostitute, you want a genuine and classy girl to share your lifestyle. When she does awkwardly bring up her "allowance", you get a really disgusted look on your face and say "I thought i made it clear, I'm NOT LOOKING FOR PROSTITUTE." She starts backpedaling, and then she essentially has to fuck you to prove she ISN'T a whore.

I know this sounds silly, but when you completely change to dating dynamic to one where YOU are the one being chased like a flawless blonde with perfect tits, it works. It's a little more complicated than this, but just read though the SA thread, and you'll see plenty of examples of guys pulling it off without pay.

To answer your other question, there are boxing coaches that concentrate on very light contact sparring (a few heavy sessions just so you lose your fear of punches, and everything after that is essentially touch sparring, just the pure technique of hitting without getting hit. Jiujitsu is also another great combat sport that will give you a great body and skills, without ever risking that amazing brain of yours. I know it's not as visually exciting and compelling as boxing, but we have a saying "An ugly art to watch, but a beautiful art to perform."

If you mixed them, you could have a lot of great power punching and technical skills from boxing, along with endless live wrestling with people in jiujitsu that will always let you know exactly where you stand wrestling with another man, and virtually no head trauma.

First, thanks again for another detailed post.

Regarding SA game; you've convinced me that here might something worthwhile with this angle so I will start researching and planning this angle this week.

One question I still have is me being black.

I'm assuming a big part of the SA strategy is you bait the girl by initially appearing to be a great potential provider/boyfriend?

From what I know usually girls look for black guys as more of the lover role in that lover/provider dynamic; i mean if i ask someone to think of some beta bucks/provider I think very few people will get the image of some black guy.

So basically how do you think me being black will play into this SA strategy.

Also, are guys fucking girls 25 and under with this SA strategy?

Yes.

Quote:Regarding jijutsu. thanks for suggesting this. I actually hired a guy to teach me this art a few years ago. he had a great reputation and had apparently trained under one of the gracies.

but then I showed up the first day and he tells me ill actually be training with one of his pupils as he is too busy teaching classes to do 1on1 with me. I insisted i wanted to train with him, he refused so i left and never thought about jijutsu again until today.

BTW, what are your thoughts on the people who criticize jijutsu saying its a terrible art for practical self defense since the last place you want to be in a street fight is on the ground.

Jiujitsu has it's limitations, as every art does, which is one of the reasons I suggested (and practice) more varied training. You've got the mobility, hard hitting, fast fight finishing ability of boxing, along with the jiujitsu ability to take it to the ground and be very dominant there if the tactical situation warrants it . It's also your safety net you if you're fighting a football player that knows how to finish a tackle, and can render all your boxing footwork, and ability to drive your body into your punches worthless because you're flat on you back already. If you also have jiujitsu, you can quickly submit him, decide to get on top, or even just stand up and give yourself another chance to box if that's what you want to do.

Quote:what are your thoughts on the people who criticize jijutsu saying its a terrible art for practical self defense since the last place you want to be in a street fight is on the ground.

There is some truth to it, but if the ground is such a horrible place to be in a fight, think of how much worse it is for the guy on the ground UNDERNEATH the groundfighting expert that is beating his roof in with one hand, and setting up a fight ending armlock with the other. He's on the ground too, only he's actively getting the shit kicked out him by a guy capable of breaking his arms and legs inside of 10 seconds.

thank you for clarifying about jijutsu.

did you see my question about how being black affects SA game?

any thoughts on that?

Post: #54

Make your life and value not about bonking the hottest girls.....

Float tanks are great! And honestly starting a modeling business is very smart... like he said do it for short girls... or buy a camera, learn some photography, and offer to do gigs for free on model mayhem.

Post: #55

Could you explain what you do in Amazon to generate 40k a month?

Honestly, if I were you you have to live your best life. Do the things that you like to do. Because your energy means everything. For me I do the things I enjoy which are nice cars, clubbing, not working, and going to the gym. Because of that I have great confidence. The confidence shows when I talk to a female. I couldn’t care less if she likes me or not but I’m gonna be me.

I think it’s a great idea to have a personal stylist though. I might look into that for myself as well.

Post: #56

You're black mid-late twenties look up people like (Instagram) Taz Angels, Zaytheplug_, Justinxsnow. Those guys make ALOT of money (not as much as you) getting girls to model or them, getting girls to promote clubs and stuff for them, or simply getting girls to be in music videos...I do this kinda stuff on the small scale. Taz is an actual pimp, however, pimping IG girls to rappers and such.

Im sure you're familiar with Zaytheplug_

Post: #57

First, congrats on the biz success. If the $40k number is net, that amounts to almost $1m/yr gross depending on what state you're in. For a guy your age, that is 0.01% money. If the number is gross, that's still top 2-3% easily for <30. Even in NYC. You can compete anywhere, so don't even trip about being afraid of New York. In my city, Los Angeles, I'm yet to meet a guy younger than 25 making that much consistently.

That being said, based on reading between the lines in your posts, you seem to be running very stereotypical "PUA"-type club game, where you're hesitant to buy drinks, bottle service, go on dates with chicks, and you seem to be more of a lone wolf.

This type of game can work, but I don't think its sustainable for most people over long periods of time, at least for most ppl. It is also limited in upside, because after you've figured out the basics, the returns are more linear than exponential. There is a limit to cold approaching exclusively.

Your goal should be to use your $ to build a LIFESTYLE, where you have consistent access to hot women. With this type of setup, your returns will be exponential - slightly more work gets way more pussy.

For that, here's a basic gameplan:
--- Awesome apartment right in center of action. There's a reason why many people have mentioned it. Hire a designer and set it up as a dope party crib that fits your style, some nice couches, artwork you like, etc. This is worth every single penny, because your goal is not only to have good logistics (though this is very useful too), but to have a spot where women WANT to go to for a party.

-- This should go without saying but keep your spot stocked with booze, mixers, and some cool random stuff that serves as "bait". My buddy has a $2k shuffleboard table and bitches love it. In regard to drugs, it isn't your thing and I feel that (not a huge fan either) but I will just note that Laner is correct... from my experience clubbing, the hottest women at clubs love drugs. Not necessary but it can def help.

-- When out at high-end clubs/lounges, look to meet groups of people who are cool and who you can relate to. This takes some time but if you go out regularly it should happen. Don't flex your $, but don't be afraid to invite a group of 2 girls and a guy back to your apt for a drink (for example). The goal here is that when you decide to host a party, they bring 8 other girls and maybe 1-2 guys. That is a great ratio. If you already have plenty of like-minded friends who have also have some $ to spend you can skip this step.

-- Make enough loose connections with girls who you can invite to pregames/parties. Instagram is money for keeping girls on the backburner. Don't be afraid to flex JUST a little bit. Dudes who constantly post pics of their Rolex and their rented Ferrari look like tools, but when you're more subtle, it can absolutely work An IG story of you sipping some whiskey with a view of the entire city can go a long way.

-- Your vibe as a whole should be of an flirty, unapologetic bachelor who enjoys having a good time with good company. Talk with many women, but keep your options open until later in the night. You want to always seem "available" to girls until the last minute, this will keep them coming back.

-- Eventually, you will have a strong network of cute girls within your city, and cute girls... tend to have cute friends. So when Lena, the chick you were hooking up with for a few months, comes to your party, she may bring Becca. Feel free to add Becca to the gram and chances are you'll fuck her at some point too. Rinse and repeat.

I wrote this up with the assumption that you like nightlife and clubs, basically what you said in OP. If this plan doesn't sound appealing, I would say that you should think about what you LIKE doing, and then think of how to use $ to make that the fullest experience.

--- You like traveling? Fly 1st class to Spain, Croatia, Germany, etc

--- You like music festivals? Hit up Coachella, Lollapalooza, EDC. Get a VIP ticket and a nice hotel room.

--- You like college girls who aren't yet into the club/drug scene? Move to a college town, get a decent apartment (nothing too lux but way better than what most college girls are doing), make connections w the bars where you don't really have to wait in lines or even pay for drinks (pretty easy in a college town), and just hit them up.

The sky is the limit.

Post: #58

(10-15-2018 10:02 PM)Stickman Wrote:  Laner gave you good advice (maybe not the drugs part) You have the same hang up most of us do at that age. You're still caught up in the game phase and have a shit tons of "principle" but you don't understand the logic behind it.

You think somehow buying drinks or popping bottles is somehow akin P4P. That is ridiculous. You may have the money but you don't have the mindset of a rich successful person yet.

You have to give value to get value. Otherwise, you'll just be another young guy with great logistics because you have money but you still have to grind like the rest of them to get laid.

Agree with Stickman here. Ultimately you're not really paying for the "drinks". The drinks do generate high-margin revenue for the nightclub, but ultimately you're paying for the privilege of hanging out in that real estate. Sure, avoid the drink leeches that simply ask for a drink & then disappear right after. But if the chick is genuine company and conversing with you then getting some drinks for her shouldn't be an issue. Especially with your bankroll!!!

You might miss out on some quality chicks if you're THAT cheap on the buying drinks swag. Some other dude will swoop in mighty quick if you're not willing to engage in such a simple custom (almost like something GManifesto used to say.)

If you're that concerned about money, lower your own tab by pre-gaming a little bit or have some discreet mini shooter bottles on deck in your pocket. Don't disclose this to some new chicks you're just meeting though. She might snitch to a bartender or bouncer or just think you're a pathetic cheapskate lol.

Post: #59

(10-15-2018 10:34 PM)BeardedMastodon Wrote:  Make your life and value not about bonking the hottest girls.....

Float tanks are great! And honestly starting a modeling business is very smart... like he said do it for short girls... or buy a camera, learn some photography, and offer to do gigs for free on model mayhem.

holy shiet dude.

you mentioning model mayhem just reminded me of an idea i had years ago before i had any money.

I kind of tested it back then and even with basically no money it showed amazing promise.

This was like 5+ years ago though so things might be different now but I think the type of money i have now something can come from this.

I will update this thread later when i have time to test it.

thank you.

Post: #60

(10-15-2018 10:52 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  You're black mid-late twenties look up people like (Instagram) Taz Angels, Zaytheplug_, Justinxsnow. Those guys make ALOT of money (not as much as you) getting girls to model or them, getting girls to promote clubs and stuff for them, or simply getting girls to be in music videos...I do this kinda stuff on the small scale. Taz is an actual pimp, however, pimping IG girls to rappers and such.

Im sure you're familiar with Zaytheplug_

how do they find these girls?

modelling ads?

And can you please give some details on how such a strategy results in me fucking these girls?

so i hire models to work for me then I host company parties/events and since I'm the owner I have the highest status by default and i just run normal game but from a position of strength? is that basically the plan with this angle?

and no i dont know who zaytheplug is.

Post: #61

Do you have any friends OP?

Post: #62

(10-15-2018 10:59 PM)RDF Wrote:  First, congrats on the biz success. If the $40k number is net, that amounts to almost $1m/yr gross depending on what state you're in. For a guy your age, that is 0.01% money. If the number is gross, that's still top 2-3% easily for <30. Even in NYC. You can compete anywhere, so don't even trip about being afraid of New York. In my city, Los Angeles, I'm yet to meet a guy younger than 25 making that much consistently.

That being said, based on reading between the lines in your posts, you seem to be running very stereotypical "PUA"-type club game, where you're hesitant to buy drinks, bottle service, go on dates with chicks, and you seem to be more of a lone wolf.

This type of game can work, but I don't think its sustainable for most people over long periods of time, at least for most ppl. It is also limited in upside, because after you've figured out the basics, the returns are more linear than exponential. There is a limit to cold approaching exclusively.

Your goal should be to use your $ to build a LIFESTYLE, where you have consistent access to hot women. With this type of setup, your returns will be exponential - slightly more work gets way more pussy.

For that, here's a basic gameplan:
--- Awesome apartment right in center of action. There's a reason why many people have mentioned it. Hire a designer and set it up as a dope party crib that fits your style, some nice couches, artwork you like, etc. This is worth every single penny, because your goal is not only to have good logistics (though this is very useful too), but to have a spot where women WANT to go to for a party.

-- This should go without saying but keep your spot stocked with booze, mixers, and some cool random stuff that serves as "bait". My buddy has a $2k shuffleboard table and bitches love it. In regard to drugs, it isn't your thing and I feel that (not a huge fan either) but I will just note that Laner is correct... from my experience clubbing, the hottest women at clubs love drugs. Not necessary but it can def help.

-- When out at high-end clubs/lounges, look to meet groups of people who are cool and who you can relate to. This takes some time but if you go out regularly it should happen. Don't flex your $, but don't be afraid to invite a group of 2 girls and a guy back to your apt for a drink (for example). The goal here is that when you decide to host a party, they bring 8 other girls and maybe 1-2 guys. That is a great ratio. If you already have plenty of like-minded friends who have also have some $ to spend you can skip this step.

-- Make enough loose connections with girls who you can invite to pregames/parties. Instagram is money for keeping girls on the backburner. Don't be afraid to flex JUST a little bit. Dudes who constantly post pics of their Rolex and their rented Ferrari look like tools, but when you're more subtle, it can absolutely work An IG story of you sipping some whiskey with a view of the entire city can go a long way.

-- Your vibe as a whole should be of an flirty, unapologetic bachelor who enjoys having a good time with good company. Talk with many women, but keep your options open until later in the night. You want to always seem "available" to girls until the last minute, this will keep them coming back.

-- Eventually, you will have a strong network of cute girls within your city, and cute girls... tend to have cute friends. So when Lena, the chick you were hooking up with for a few months, comes to your party, she may bring Becca. Feel free to add Becca to the gram and chances are you'll fuck her at some point too. Rinse and repeat.

I wrote this up with the assumption that you like nightlife and clubs, basically what you said in OP. If this plan doesn't sound appealing, I would say that you should think about what you LIKE doing, and then think of how to use $ to make that the fullest experience.

--- You like traveling? Fly 1st class to Spain, Croatia, Germany, etc

--- You like music festivals? Hit up Coachella, Lollapalooza, EDC. Get a VIP ticket and a nice hotel room.

--- You like college girls who aren't yet into the club/drug scene? Move to a college town, get a decent apartment (nothing too lux but way better than what most college girls are doing), make connections w the bars where you don't really have to wait in lines or even pay for drinks (pretty easy in a college town), and just hit them up.

The sky is the limit.

thanks a lot for such a detailed post.

I want to specify so there is no misunderstanding that i make 40k per month BEFORE taxes.

and as you can imagine my tax % at this level is like what I imagine getting fucked in the ass feels like. its fucking insane how much in taxes i have to pay.

Post: #63

Pretty much just like that. Your problem isn't necessarily money but the fame and status. You still have to approach these girls. SHow them that you have a life that they would want to join in on. Then once you have them use them to get more women. I have a friend who gets his girls to go out and recruit other girls. Should be much easier in Atlanta.

Post: #64

(10-15-2018 11:18 PM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  Pretty much just like that. Your problem isn't necessarily money but the fame and status. You still have to approach these girls. SHow them that you have a life that they would want to join in on. Then once you have them use them to get more women. I have a friend who gets his girls to go out and recruit other girls. Should be much easier in Atlanta.

ok thank you for clarifying.

Post: #65

making a lot of money in the usa doesnt help much. IF anything it will make you feel more like shit when you have the best body, drive a lambo and still dont get the hottest models in your city lol. Thats why i left america. the girls in america are independent... they dont need your money! But girls in other countries do when they work to make $8 a day.. thats the countries i visit. and i take girls around the country staying in 5 star hotels and they have the best time of their life..

try going to a country where beutiful girls take cold showers etc. they will be your slave because you provide them a better life... thats what im doing now. i had plans to travel the world but damnit i keep finding beautiful woman so easy and dont change countries .

some girls think my profile is fake on tinder lol because they dont believe someone with a lambo is living in their shitty third world country city... but thats what i like... makes my value so much higher ...

Post: #66

OP, you've obviously done very well financially. You've put in the work, you've grounded it out, and you've done your time. While you've done all that, as you developed your business and income stream, you've probably sacrificed a lot of things in your personal development area. You're way ahead financially, but may be a little behind in terms of social skills, travel, and life experience.

Not saying this to put you down, but with your income, it may be the ideal time to further develop yourself in other areas such as travel, fitness, social, and of course, game. You are actually in a great position to do all of this without worrying about your budget, unlike most of us. And you've come to the right place for that.

Good luck.

Post: #67

it appears the OP isn't going to divulge any details of how he earns his money. if he ain't exaggerating, i'm guessin he got lucky in some niche category. but he should be very, very careful with his money.

some random chinese guy, or hell, even amazon themselves will take note of his sales, believe me. then they'll just replicate and steal whatever he's doing. then poof, OP's income is gone - he'll have spent all of it trying to fuck 'hot' girls and wasting money on high end apartments, or a new luxury car, etc. hahaha.

Post: #68

(10-16-2018 12:44 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  it appears the OP isn't going to divulge any details of how he earns his money. if he ain't exaggerating, i'm guessin he got lucky in some niche category. but he should be very, very careful with his money.

some random chinese guy, or hell, even amazon themselves will take note of his sales, believe me. then they'll just replicate and steal whatever he's doing. then poof, OP's income is gone - he'll have spent all of it trying to fuck 'hot' girls and wasting money on high end apartments, or a new luxury car, etc. hahaha.

Exactly. Always gotta get ready to diversify or enter another venture. If I was OP I'd start looking into real estate investments (maybe rental properties). Any way to start diversifying that cash flow because you never know when the party is over within your niche.

Post: #69

I echo the advice above towards becoming a vitruvian man.

- Figure out how to hide your money from women
- Learn game
- Do NLP for a few weeks to become outcome independent and to not rely on your resources for confidence
- Travel and fuck girls across the spectrum for positive reference points when you want to settle down
- Define what constitutes your ideal love life. One woman? Multiple? Sexual deviancy in your 20s? Collecting flags?
- I personally buy drinks and dinners and whatnot, depending on the woman. Don't be too rigid, it will warp your moral compass towards women.

You don't need to invest money in to ventures towards streamlining pussy but rather, into yourself. Do a hard audit as to where you can improve. Get a personal assistant to outsource all of your shit.

Honestly, most of the guys I advise who are well off have the problem of using their money as a crutch. Same for good looking guys. Accept that money can only take you so far and that to have a fulfilling love life, it's more about you and your lens of the world.

The differentiator is the TYPE of experience you can provide to a woman. That's literally it. Women want experiences that are memorable and set them apart from the other women. It's usually opulent so that's their trap.

My focus would be simply to free up more time for fun activities but I know that to have the drive to make that money, you would get antsy pretty soon.

Like most on this forum, you are well on your way towards reaching your potential and it's just certain domains which need some tweaking. You're in a great place and have a solid foundation so the world is your oyster.

Just don't let your money define your confidence. Use it to gather experience and reference points to the extent it's unshakable. Anyone who has had a lot of money, lost it and then won it back knows the rollercoaster it can be. New money is dangerous. You wanna be hanging out with girls who are from rich backgrounds as homework to see what's up. These girls will be high maintenance but not gold diggers. The difference is that the former is used to it and the latter is not. The former has abundance mentality and the latter has scarcity mentality. The girls you choose can sway your decision making and state of mind.

This is the tip of the iceberg and I don't know your game level. I occasionally do Skype/FaceTime consultations so if that's something you're interested, feel free PM me and we can take it from there.

p.s. cosign everything Laner said, even the drugs. It's a good 'reset' button for their state and if you can handle the type of girls that come with this, you will have some interesting sexual experiences.

Post: #70

(10-16-2018 12:44 AM)sittinpretty2020 Wrote:  it appears the OP isn't going to divulge any details of how he earns his money. if he ain't exaggerating, i'm guessin he got lucky in some niche category. but he should be very, very careful with his money.

some random chinese guy, or hell, even amazon themselves will take note of his sales, believe me. then they'll just replicate and steal whatever he's doing. then poof, OP's income is gone - he'll have spent all of it trying to fuck 'hot' girls and wasting money on high end apartments, or a new luxury car, etc. hahaha.

If he's grossing $40k profit a month his list will be tidy and 'should' be making a significantly higher proportion of the income from the list vs Amazon.

Post: #71

Financially hes def ahead but game wise he seems to be missing things.

Focusing on club game:

At that income level you should not be running around the club or clubs approaching girls using lone wolf tactics. What is supposed to separate you from the average joe schmo in the club then? What is going to make you special? Telling her you make mad money on Amazon? I have done and studied club game for years on end and KNOW better than any other type of game how to get the hottest girls there.

You HAVE to run bottle service game. The hottest girls in the club are superficial as fuck and want to be seen with the biggest and best party group in the club which the table provides you. It is NOT P4P. You pull a strong team of just A FEW dudes together and hopefully a promoter/VIP Host and have THEM fill the table up with hot girls who you then approach. Once you have the table you don't have to stay there all night you can do some lone wolf approach where you then invite girls back to your huge party table next to the DJ (or whatever the best spot is) and voila you are no longer an average dude in the club.

As the night winds down you throw an afterparty with again a few dudes and like 8 girls back to your place 5 minutes away in your lux apartment. The party and bottles pop again and you swoop in for the kill on the girl you want because your bedroom is inches away and boom you got a bang.

If you do this rise and repeat...together with a strong team this will snowball and you will get an amazing rep and be banging the best girls in your city in no time.

Otherwise the other guys' advice on building a lifestyle is ON POINT.

Post: #72

I'm assuming the OP means before taxes(he said profit not net profit) because if he's making that kinda money after taxes well holy shit god bless him. I say that because I have a gross household income of about 620k and taxes gobble so much of that stuff up. Im in a constant battle with my old lady not buy a gigantic 2million dollar house

Post: #73

On this page we have three new members:

One claiming to make $500k per year doing something on Amazon

One claiming to be a bodybuilder in the third world with a Lamborghini

One making $600k+ whose wife likes mansions.

Interesting.

Post: #74

(10-16-2018 09:52 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  On this page we have three new members:

One claiming to make $500k per year doing something on Amazon

One claiming to be a bodybuilder in the third world with a Lamborghini

One making $600k+ whose wife likes mansions.

Interesting.

Im on record as saying my wife makes the lion's share of our money, which other members have pointed out as a being a source of my dissatisfaction in my marriage. not because i don't want her making money, but to make that kind of money has resulted in her being more masculine. I make 150k she makes the delta. No reason for me to lie. But enough about me

Post: #75

(10-16-2018 09:52 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  On this page we have three new members:

One claiming to make $500k per year doing something on Amazon

One claiming to be a bodybuilder in the third world with a Lamborghini

One making $600k+ whose wife likes mansions.

Interesting.

Indeed.