Post: #226

(10-30-2018 01:38 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I can't believe no one has recommended buying a zebra yet. I remember a thread about someone who did that.

Who needs to hire bodyguards at the club?

You should be able to fight off a group of 10 guys and tell them to go home.

Post: #227

Just a side note - and not taking sides on whether this guy is legit or not.

If you know how to operate in Amazon's ecosystem, it is VERY easy to make a large return quickly. The first month I started my Amazon business, I netted over 1.5k. 40k a month is actually not that difficult to achieve in my mind if you have a successful product strategy that isn't generic private label.

That said, with very little effort on my part now, Amazon is another nice stream of cash flow. Third party sellers will be pushed off the platform in the long term (5-10 years) but for now it is still a very good place to start. The majority of sellers still do not know what they're doing, but if you run in the circles of the movers and shakers on Amazon (which I do, to a degree) you'll realize it is getting more competitive than it used to be. Anyone can definitely do it though.

Post: #228

(10-30-2018 12:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys on the forum will never agree or settle on what they think is a good rating for a chick.

At this point its just mental masturbation....or masturbation material lol.

Still can't believe dudes are buying into this trolls story.

I agree. 'Rating' discourse is pointless. I personally consider a 7 and up to be girlfriend caliber.

Girl 2 I would bang, but she's not girlfriend worthy - I doubt she'd even break into the roster.

Redhead girl does have the most potential, akin to a project car on craiglist(mechanic's special). Depending on how many "cocks" are on the odometer if she lost some weight she could be decent.

Post: #229

(10-30-2018 03:43 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 12:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys on the forum will never agree or settle on what they think is a good rating for a chick.

At this point its just mental masturbation....or masturbation material lol.

Still can't believe dudes are buying into this trolls story.

I agree. 'Rating' discourse is pointless. I personally consider a 7 and up to be girlfriend caliber.

Girl 2 I would bang, but she's not girlfriend worthy - I doubt she'd even break into the roster.

"Rating discouse is pointless" yet you literally just devoted half of a post... wait, now two posts, to discussing it.

It's not pointless. It's actually incredibly important. If I said I was fucking 6s and 7s and I posted photos of the two girls in my last post, I'd hope I would be run out of the forum immediately.

Post: #230

(10-30-2018 03:46 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:43 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 12:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys on the forum will never agree or settle on what they think is a good rating for a chick.

At this point its just mental masturbation....or masturbation material lol.

Still can't believe dudes are buying into this trolls story.

I agree. 'Rating' discourse is pointless. I personally consider a 7 and up to be girlfriend caliber.

Girl 2 I would bang, but she's not girlfriend worthy - I doubt she'd even break into the roster.

"Rating discouse is pointless" yet you literally just devoted half of a post... wait, now two posts, to discussing it.

It's not pointless. It's actually incredibly important. If I said I was fucking 6s and 7s and I posted photos of the two girls in my last post, I'd hope I would be run out of the forum immediately.

Pointless because of the subjective nature of it all.

Post: #231

How do you earn $40k per month?

Drop some data

Post: #232

(10-30-2018 12:09 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  I hate to come across as a 'hater', but the ratings for these girls are unacceptable.

I understand that we all have some preferences which can slightly skew things but the portly ginger is 4 at best and the second girl is the epitome of a butter-face(5-5.5 if I am being generous).

Have some standards for Christ's sake; let's get it together here boys.

Also, it's obvious the OP is a troll and the claims he's made on here are false. No need to keep humoring him.

You joined less than a month ago, have 33 posts, and 1 rep.

You may be player extraordinaire in person and never bang a 4 or 5, but here you just look like a troll yourself for calling out a troll with the above facts. Read, learn, post when you're actually adding value. It's what most posters who have been here a long time aim for and it's definitely important for a solid poster.

Post: #233

(10-15-2018 07:19 PM)TheScientist Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 07:12 PM)Saweeep Wrote:  OP, I think you sound a bit passive in general.

I think you need some wins in life, not just financially.

You need to get out in the world and do some fun stuff...only 2 sessions with a boxing coach or 3 with a trainer makes me think you struggle to see things through and over think pretty much everything.

You've convinced yourself having a spot next to the action isn't worth it, having muscles isn't worth it. etc etc.

thats an interesting thought man.

I have legit thoughtful reasons for all of these decisions though.

It's not just me getting bored or being lazy.

Post: #234

(10-30-2018 03:52 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:46 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:43 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 12:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys on the forum will never agree or settle on what they think is a good rating for a chick.

At this point its just mental masturbation....or masturbation material lol.

Still can't believe dudes are buying into this trolls story.

I agree. 'Rating' discourse is pointless. I personally consider a 7 and up to be girlfriend caliber.

Girl 2 I would bang, but she's not girlfriend worthy - I doubt she'd even break into the roster.

"Rating discouse is pointless" yet you literally just devoted half of a post... wait, now two posts, to discussing it.

It's not pointless. It's actually incredibly important. If I said I was fucking 6s and 7s and I posted photos of the two girls in my last post, I'd hope I would be run out of the forum immediately.

Pointless because of the subjective nature of it all.

It's annoying how there can be one guy who mis-calls a photo and it devolves into whether or not a +/- 2 or even 3 rating is even definable and leads to "pointless" discussion. Someone's 8 is your 5? I don't think so.

I think it's pretty obvious there is at most about a +/- 1 rating differential among 99% of non-trolling, non-autistic, actual men who are being truthful. You know how food critics need to learn to overcome their personal preferences so that when they don't like spicy food they can still assess someone's spicy food? Quite bringing your idiosyncrasies into and ruining a good system. Just because you like goth girls doesn't mean that 6 is an 8, or since you don't like blonde asians that an 8 is now a 5.

If you don't even know whether you're dating a 5,6,7 or 8 how the hell can you tell where you stand in any social situation or any aspect of human interaction accurately? You'll be constantly confused why dudes are hitting up your "5", or you'll be pissed why nobody is giving you props for the "9" you're dragging around town. Really, if you genuinely think a 7 is a 4, or a 7 is a 9, you probably can't even tell if your best friend hates you, your boss is about to fire you or pick up any other important social cue.

Post: #235

(10-16-2018 09:52 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  On this page we have three new members:

One claiming to make $500k per year doing something on Amazon

One claiming to be a bodybuilder in the third world with a Lamborghini

One making $600k+ whose wife likes mansions.

Interesting.

lol you can pm me for my instagram if you want verification. But my lambo is in the usa not in a third world country. I got it in my early 20's i matured and realized american is a shitty country to live in. The truth is the lambo didnt get me much girls in the usa. Just gold digging little dumb whores. The smarter girls dont care, they have real jobs they dont need my money to buy them restaurant meals... Having money in a third world country brings me much more girls. I didnt even have my instagram linked to tinder when i first was in medellin because i was afraid to be drugged or kidnapped.. I just spoke to girls on whatsapp and facetimed them and lowkey showed them my penthouse...
And I dont consider myself a bodybuilder , i dont train seriously anymore like i used to. But in third world countries where people are starving i stand out. im a big dude.

currently in Ecuador. Im no longer in colombia, needed a change. Going to be here for a month see how the nightlife and girls are.


one thing i dont like how about these shitty third world countries is the climate... My wardrobe is shorts and tanktops. Tough to dress in style when you will sweat through your clothes.

One of the reasons i want to give ukraine a try so i can upgrade my wardrobe and not wear tanktops etc everyday

Post: #236

quick update.

I went all in with the idea of getting a place in nightlife area.

For the rest of 2018, I rented 2 different apartments near my favorite clubs.

These are super high end with basically the amenities of a luxury hotels.

I'll give this a try for 2 months and hopefully it makes a significant difference.

Both places are literally within eyesight of the clubs i like to attend in this city.

Unfortunately, I got in a fight tonight and I'll probably be banned from
my 2nd favorite club which kind of negates the need of the 2nd place.

I'll be going back to the club during the day tomorrow to plead my case and hopefully i dont get banned but with everything that happened its a very low chance.

I'm also going to give a serious attempt at working with a therapist/psychologist/counselor to solve why I'm always getting into fights.

I've been getting in fights my entire life pretty much even as a small kid and as I've got older it has not stopped;
if I dont get this aspect of my life under control I'm going to end up in a disastrous situation that will destroy my life.

If anyone has had experience with this sort of thing and can point me in the right direction then I would be very grateful.

My experience in this area is limited.

I saw a female psychologist 2-3 times and did 1 session of anger management with this old white guy;
all this was years ago when i was a teenager.

Not sure what the best route to take for this is in 2018.

another thing I've been working on lately is seeking arrangement and I've come to a conclusion with that.

I read everything for 2018 in the thread for that and I also created a male profile in my city to see the quality of the girls in my city and then i created a female profile so i could see the competition.

I get why so many people mentioned this since the competition is weak and given that I actually have some money instead of the guys faking; i definitely see how this could work.

However, I've come to the decision that this is definitely way too close to p4p for me.

I was shocked at what some of these girls had on their profiles; its basically legal prostitution,

Also, in my city the girls are not anything special....a lot of 6s and 7s and a few 8s and saw no 9s and 10s basically.

so yeah I've ruled out SA game as an option for me.

Post: #237

another update.

there's 2 more ideas I'll be testing soon.

first, I'm in the process of hiring a game teacher.

I want basically someone who is able to consistently go into clubs alone and get one night stands with 8+ chicks to teach me....I would prefer someone black but not deal breaker.

There are 2 guys I've already contacted.

One guy has not had any activity online in several weeks so hopefully he comes online soon and replies to me and then the other guy we are right now negotiating rates and who will go to who...do i go to him or he comes to me or we do just phone calls for now.

If you're reading this and you know anyone who is good at getting same night sex from nightclubs with 8+ chicks WITHOUT any bottle service or social circle angle....if you know anyone like this then I'd gladly pay him for even just a phone call where i can pick his brain and ask questions.

the 2nd idea is something I've always wanted to do since I was a kid but forgot about until this thread; ill be hiring a limo driver to just drive me around in a limo as i go about my day to day life; so NOT for night game or any angle like that...just like day to day life stuff...the same way like Trump always rolls in a limo; I use to love watching him on the apprentice and he was actually a big inspiration for me wanting to make money when i was younger....so yeah ive always wanted to do that and it turns out its cheaper to do this then i thought so I'll be testing this soon and I'm excited to see how people will react around me.

Post: #238

(10-31-2018 10:10 PM)christpuncher Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:52 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:46 PM)corsega Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 03:43 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  

(10-30-2018 12:45 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Guys on the forum will never agree or settle on what they think is a good rating for a chick.

At this point its just mental masturbation....or masturbation material lol.

Still can't believe dudes are buying into this trolls story.

I agree. 'Rating' discourse is pointless. I personally consider a 7 and up to be girlfriend caliber.

Girl 2 I would bang, but she's not girlfriend worthy - I doubt she'd even break into the roster.

"Rating discouse is pointless" yet you literally just devoted half of a post... wait, now two posts, to discussing it.

It's not pointless. It's actually incredibly important. If I said I was fucking 6s and 7s and I posted photos of the two girls in my last post, I'd hope I would be run out of the forum immediately.

Pointless because of the subjective nature of it all.

It's annoying how there can be one guy who mis-calls a photo and it devolves into whether or not a +/- 2 or even 3 rating is even definable and leads to "pointless" discussion. Someone's 8 is your 5? I don't think so.

I think it's pretty obvious there is at most about a +/- 1 rating differential among 99% of non-trolling, non-autistic, actual men who are being truthful. You know how food critics need to learn to overcome their personal preferences so that when they don't like spicy food they can still assess someone's spicy food? Quite bringing your idiosyncrasies into and ruining a good system. Just because you like goth girls doesn't mean that 6 is an 8, or since you don't like blonde asians that an 8 is now a 5.

If you don't even know whether you're dating a 5,6,7 or 8 how the hell can you tell where you stand in any social situation or any aspect of human interaction accurately? You'll be constantly confused why dudes are hitting up your "5", or you'll be pissed why nobody is giving you props for the "9" you're dragging around town. Really, if you genuinely think a 7 is a 4, or a 7 is a 9, you probably can't even tell if your best friend hates you, your boss is about to fire you or pick up any other important social cue.

With no rubric or universally agreed criterion, discussions regarding 'ratings' are futile.

I thought it pretty was cut-and-dried, but as seen above it clearly isn't. Apparently having someone semblance of standards makes you a troll.

Post: #239

Really...

I just don’t understand why with all the income you wanna fight with guys instead of on just concentrating on the women and having a good time.

Why go in the trenches and grind in out at the bar and dance floor with plebeian bitches when you could just be at a table and have all the women handed to you on a silver platter? I don’t understand the mindset.

You gotta deal with mother hens, wanna be instagirls and god knows what else when you could just be getting the best and most interested girls to come to you and just choose what you want. I just don’t get it.

For a smart rich dude it’s hard to see how you have the brain for business but not the brain for the business of game.

Then again I met some finance guys and doctors with the same mindset. Just still amazing to see.

Post: #240

(11-02-2018 06:18 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  quick update.

I went all in with the idea of getting a place in nightlife area.

For the rest of 2018, I rented 2 different apartments near my favorite clubs.

2 different apartments. To get laid.

Already likely banned from one of the clubs.

Okay, big baller troll, enough with this charade. You're not very good at this.

Post: #241

(11-02-2018 06:18 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  quick update.

I'm also going to give a serious attempt at working with a therapist/psychologist/counselor to solve why I'm always getting into fights.

I've been getting in fights my entire life pretty much even as a small kid and as I've got older it has not stopped;
if I dont get this aspect of my life under control I'm going to end up in a disastrous situation that will destroy my life.

If anyone has had experience with this sort of thing and can point me in the right direction then I would be very grateful.

Hire a psychiatrist. Not a psychopharmacologist, but a psychoanalyst. It's expensive and a major commitment of time, but it will work for you.

It will cost you far more than a PhD or some therapist type, but basically 99% these people are all losers and many are quite unstable themselves. It's far too easy to become a shrink. A psychiatrist will better understand the psychology of a high performer because they've actually been through a highly competitive process, been a member of the elite earning profession and come out the other end.

Of course there's something a bit off about you. Of course you're a bit angry at something. Virtually everyone whom I've met that's achieved a high level of success has psychological issues of some kind. It's that little demon that leads them to work so much harder and sacrifice so much. It's what keeps you focused.

What you need to do is understand that monkey on your back and grab that little fucker by the tail. He's never going away, he'll always be there, but you must learn to tame the little demon and also understand that you'll never get rid of him. And honestly, he's part of why you are the way you are, good and bad. He's part of what makes you better, as ironic as that sounds.

One more thing - it takes YEARS of psychotherapy. There will be no quick fixes.

Finally, stop thinking that you're going to hire some guy that's going to teach you how to get laid. This is a fucking scam, I've met a few of these guys when I was in SE Asia. Most of them are complete frauds, a few have deluded themselves into believing that banging a few cute girls in the Ukraine means that they're some kind of Lothario. Check out their IG. Are there pictures of them hanging out with lots of attractive women? (Who aren't Ukrainian hookers) What do their halloween pictures look like? Are they leading the life you want to? That says it all.

Guys that get laid a lot by hot women are VERY rare. They tend to be guys with so much going on that women are drawn to them. Get your house in order, mentally, physically and professionally and they will come to you.

Post: #242

(11-02-2018 06:28 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  If you're reading this and you know anyone who is good at getting same night sex from nightclubs with 8+ chicks WITHOUT any bottle service or social circle angle....if you know anyone like this then I'd gladly pay him for even just a phone call where i can pick his brain and ask questions

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING THIS!?!

You.
Make.
$40K.
PER MONTH.

And after all the advice given to you, you want to run around in the club like some sort of cold approach monkey. Instead of playing off your built-in money and status!

You are truly beyond hope.

Post: #243

Without social circle, what are you too cool for friends?

The mental gymnastics:

Paying for a drink = paying for pussy

Paying rent for TWO APPARTMENTS = totally normal

Post: #244

Serious suggestion, since no one inside will know you arrived in a limo, I suggest you either get a limo hat or:

Post: #245

(11-02-2018 06:18 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  quick update.

I went all in with the idea of getting a place in nightlife area.

For the rest of 2018, I rented 2 different apartments near my favorite clubs.

These are super high end with basically the amenities of a luxury hotels.

I'll give this a try for 2 months and hopefully it makes a significant difference.

Both places are literally within eyesight of the clubs i like to attend in this city.

Unfortunately, I got in a fight tonight and I'll probably be banned from
my 2nd favorite club which kind of negates the need of the 2nd place.

I'll be going back to the club during the day tomorrow to plead my case and hopefully i dont get banned but with everything that happened its a very low chance.

I'm also going to give a serious attempt at working with a therapist/psychologist/counselor to solve why I'm always getting into fights.

I've been getting in fights my entire life pretty much even as a small kid and as I've got older it has not stopped;
if I dont get this aspect of my life under control I'm going to end up in a disastrous situation that will destroy my life.

If anyone has had experience with this sort of thing and can point me in the right direction then I would be very grateful.

My experience in this area is limited.

I saw a female psychologist 2-3 times and did 1 session of anger management with this old white guy;
all this was years ago when i was a teenager.

Not sure what the best route to take for this is in 2018.

another thing I've been working on lately is seeking arrangement and I've come to a conclusion with that.

I read everything for 2018 in the thread for that and I also created a male profile in my city to see the quality of the girls in my city and then i created a female profile so i could see the competition.

I get why so many people mentioned this since the competition is weak and given that I actually have some money instead of the guys faking; i definitely see how this could work.

However, I've come to the decision that this is definitely way too close to p4p for me.

I was shocked at what some of these girls had on their profiles; its basically legal prostitution,

Also, in my city the girls are not anything special....a lot of 6s and 7s and a few 8s and saw no 9s and 10s basically.

so yeah I've ruled out SA game as an option for me.

Did you win the fight or you get your ass whooped by the other dude ?

Post: #246

update.

I've just returned from testing bottle service for the first time ever.

Instead of getting one of 3 tables in this vip area; I decided to go all out and just buy the entire vip section to myself
by purchasing 3 bottles.

I felt sharing the area with 2 other groups would kind of defeat the purpose.

so after all the hype in this thread the results where a massive disappointment.

and keep in mind that i specifically asked them to put me in the most highly visible bottle service area in the club so a lot of girls saw me during the night so that was not the issue; everyone in the club at some point saw me im sure.

No girls came to my vip area the entire night.

They have the vip area ropped off so I dont even know how anyone would try to come in there.

So I dont get why so many guys talk about how girls just come up to you if you buy bottles; i was literally in my own area; i dont think any girls are going to have the courage to walk up and remove the rope to come into my area.

I got so bored just sitting there that I started just roaming the club doing my usual approach.

Do I need to ask the guy who took my payment for the bottles to bring me girls?

How does it work?

Also, they had this bottle girl stand next to me the entire time; i asked the host that I wanted to be in my area alone but they said legally she had to be there to "watch the alcohol"....I thought this sounded retarded....how does this sound to those of you who get bottles often?...does the girl have to just stand there in the vip section at all times?...why?...also, she was like guarding my bottles....like she would pour each drink for me....wtf is that? why cant i just pour the fucking bottles i paid for myself?....i got really annoyed with that chick by the end and really wanted her gone from my area.

anyways, i tried it and massive failure.

Post: #247

regarding the 2 apartments.

I just want to clarify what i mean.

I go out almost every night and depending on the night I go to different clubs.

it was NOT possible to get one apartment that was within walking distance of all the clubs i go to.

So i got 2 apartments so no matter where i am on a night out i have an option that is walking distance.

unfortunately, my fight last night kind of ruined this plan since one of the apartments was specifically for the club where i got into a fight and will most likely be banned from.

Post: #248

(11-02-2018 11:28 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  Really...

I just don’t understand why with all the income you wanna fight with guys instead of on just concentrating on the women and having a good time.

Why go in the trenches and grind in out at the bar and dance floor with plebeian bitches when you could just be at a table and have all the women handed to you on a silver platter? I don’t understand the mindset.

You gotta deal with mother hens, wanna be instagirls and god knows what else when you could just be getting the best and most interested girls to come to you and just choose what you want. I just don’t get it.

For a smart rich dude it’s hard to see how you have the brain for business but not the brain for the business of game.

Then again I met some finance guys and doctors with the same mindset. Just still amazing to see.

I bought an entire vip section and this was not my experience at all.

No girls came up to me at all. not one.

My area was closed off by a rope so not sure what kind of girl would be bold enough to come into the area in this situation.

Post: #249

(11-02-2018 02:28 PM)Lance Blastoff Wrote:  

(11-02-2018 06:18 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  quick update.

I'm also going to give a serious attempt at working with a therapist/psychologist/counselor to solve why I'm always getting into fights.

I've been getting in fights my entire life pretty much even as a small kid and as I've got older it has not stopped;
if I dont get this aspect of my life under control I'm going to end up in a disastrous situation that will destroy my life.

If anyone has had experience with this sort of thing and can point me in the right direction then I would be very grateful.

Hire a psychiatrist. Not a psychopharmacologist, but a psychoanalyst. It's expensive and a major commitment of time, but it will work for you.

It will cost you far more than a PhD or some therapist type, but basically 99% these people are all losers and many are quite unstable themselves. It's far too easy to become a shrink. A psychiatrist will better understand the psychology of a high performer because they've actually been through a highly competitive process, been a member of the elite earning profession and come out the other end.

Of course there's something a bit off about you. Of course you're a bit angry at something. Virtually everyone whom I've met that's achieved a high level of success has psychological issues of some kind. It's that little demon that leads them to work so much harder and sacrifice so much. It's what keeps you focused.

What you need to do is understand that monkey on your back and grab that little fucker by the tail. He's never going away, he'll always be there, but you must learn to tame the little demon and also understand that you'll never get rid of him. And honestly, he's part of why you are the way you are, good and bad. He's part of what makes you better, as ironic as that sounds.

One more thing - it takes YEARS of psychotherapy. There will be no quick fixes.

Finally, stop thinking that you're going to hire some guy that's going to teach you how to get laid. This is a fucking scam, I've met a few of these guys when I was in SE Asia. Most of them are complete frauds, a few have deluded themselves into believing that banging a few cute girls in the Ukraine means that they're some kind of Lothario. Check out their IG. Are there pictures of them hanging out with lots of attractive women? (Who aren't Ukrainian hookers) What do their halloween pictures look like? Are they leading the life you want to? That says it all.

Guys that get laid a lot by hot women are VERY rare. They tend to be guys with so much going on that women are drawn to them. Get your house in order, mentally, physically and professionally and they will come to you.

thank you for your suggestion regarding the psychological help i need.

I will look into this and update the thread after my first session.

It does sound kind of demoralizing when you say the process will take years; I'm at my 3rd nightclub fight/near fight in the past 30 days, i dont really have years; i need a way to learn to control myself and walk away in these situations i find myself in.

you seem to know a lot about the mind and stuff like this; what are your thoughts on mindfulness training for someone like me; should i go back to testing float tanks?

Post: #250

(11-03-2018 04:34 AM)TheScientist Wrote:  update.

I've just returned from testing bottle service for the first time ever.

Instead of getting one of 3 tables in this vip area; I decided to go all out and just buy the entire vip section to myself
by purchasing 3 bottles.

I felt sharing the area with 2 other groups would kind of defeat the purpose.

so after all the hype in this thread the results where a massive disappointment.

and keep in mind that i specifically asked them to put me in the most highly visible bottle service area in the club so a lot of girls saw me during the night so that was not the issue; everyone in the club at some point saw me im sure.

No girls came to my vip area the entire night.

They have the vip area ropped off so I dont even know how anyone would try to come in there.

So I dont get why so many guys talk about how girls just come up to you if you buy bottles; i was literally in my own area; i dont think any girls are going to have the courage to walk up and remove the rope to come into my area.

I got so bored just sitting there that I started just roaming the club doing my usual approach.

Do I need to ask the guy who took my payment for the bottles to bring me girls?

How does it work?

Also, they had this bottle girl stand next to me the entire time; i asked the host that I wanted to be in my area alone but they said legally she had to be there to "watch the alcohol"....I thought this sounded retarded....how does this sound to those of you who get bottles often?...does the girl have to just stand there in the vip section at all times?...why?...also, she was like guarding my bottles....like she would pour each drink for me....wtf is that? why cant i just pour the fucking bottles i paid for myself?....i got really annoyed with that chick by the end and really wanted her gone from my area.

anyways, i tried it and massive failure.

I want to believe you're real, so badly. My purpose on this forum is to help other guys out. So I desperately want to believe you're not trolling us. But you're making it very hard.

If you are indeed real, you are one of the densest and least socially acute guys I have ever seen in my life.

So let's break this down: bottle service is a social endeavor. Yet you went out of your way to ENSURE a non-social atmosphere!

1. You didn't bring friends to the club with you, so you looked like a loner.
2. This could have been rectified by making friends and inviting them to party with you, yet instead of doing that, you bought out the neighboring booths, ensuring you looked even more alone. If you had the booths, you could have invited some of the guys and girls from their booths into yours, making it look like you actually had friends!

And you're wondering why girls didn't suddenly rock up to the booth and ride your dick?

You need to educate yourself. Badly.

Stop going out. Stop cold approaching. Stop getting in fights.

Either buy or pirate RSD Luke's Social Circle Blueprint program and don't post here again until you've watched and absorbed every piece of it.