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ksbms 路 2017-04-09 08:22:00 路 #2883
Nothing. Just do nothing. Replying, is giving her more attention. Maximum push - not that this will change anything. You're on her backburn. Work other leads. Hopefully, she'll re-engage but don't count on it.
Rekk'd 路 2017-04-09 08:56:00 路 #2884
Yeah you're right, I don't think she will re-engage too. Maybe I'll restart in 2 weeks or 3 and see how it goes.
TornadoByProxy 路 2017-04-09 09:12:00 路 #2885
She said she could possibly meet later this week. Why wait 2-3 weeks to reengage? I'd just keep the banter going and see how the week goes.
Rekk'd 路 2017-04-09 09:33:00 路 #2886
I could do that too, the girl is very cute so I believe it's worth it.
Veloce 路 2017-04-13 12:23:00 路 #2887
This is definitely a newbie question, and a newbie situation, but I'm all fucked up over this one.

Some background. I was at a bar with my buddy 2 nights ago, I see 2 girls sitting in a corner and knew I'd probably approach them.

I get my drinks at the bar and go right over, not a great approach but whatever: "Hey, you 2 are kind of cute, I was thinking me and my friend come over and bother you for a while". They smile awkwardly and I make little comments like, "Is this one of those dumb girls night out things" and "My buddy's 6'4", ripped, totally hot. Just kidding he's 5'8" and Korean." they laugh and but still saying to each other, "You cool with that?" and I don't like standing there in their frame, so I start to back off and say, "Hey don't let me twist your arm...other fish in the sea and all that..." and start walking back but they say "No no, come over".

The place is dark and it's not until I sit down and start talking to them that I realize one of them is a goddamn 8.5, possibly 9. She's absolutely stunning. I have to actually scan her face but not look too long to see if there are any flaws. She's thin, not a lot going on for boobs and butt but I'm looking at her thinking we'd have beautiful children together.

So we all hit it off and our game is on point, good conversation flow, they do some shots with us, a couple hours pass and I get their numbers. The stunner is single, her friend is not, which I realize that's why they were hesitant to hang out at first.

So with that in mind, I'm in that mindset where I don't want to fuck this up, which is already screwing with my game. I just don't meet girls like this that often, maybe once or twice a year. I need as much objective forum input as possible because clearly I'm not thinking clearly and I'm wayyyyy overthinking this.

Here's our text exchange so far:

I texted her when I got home:
"Hey it's Veloce. Good meeting you tonight"
2 hrs later "Nice meeting you too!"
Day after, at night I text her "Hey I'm gonna check out this band at X bar on sat. Wanna join?"
next day (today) she replies in the morning, "I work Saturday Sad"

Now I know I shouldn't have tried to make plans on a weekend. That's strike one.

Options in my head, none of which sound "correct":
"Yeah I work too, gonna head over after" This is a dead end
"When you free?" Sounds needy and too interested
"All good I'll just come kidnap you and put a mannequin in your place" playful but still slightly needy

I know I'm overthinking this but give me a good next text.
ksbms 路 2017-04-13 15:05:00 路 #2888
Veloce,

You seemed to quick. Also, as you pointed out, suggesting Saturday not such a great idea, unless great attraction and rapport or short on time. She didn't counter-offer, not good. At least she's replying. Pull back, and send a couple non-commital pings in a few days. Self-aggrandise: "I'm having the best burger in town and it's gonna be soon in my big belly" or some such. Show her you don't care. If she baits, after a couple back and forths, suggest coffee and drinks on a slow night. If no-go, she's just not that into you and next.
Veloce 路 2017-04-13 15:11:00 路 #2889
I made plans with her for Monday. We'll see if she comes through.

This would be the hottest or 2nd hottest girl i've ever banged. I'm as jaded as they come but admittedly getting my hopes up over this one.
[email聽protected] /* */ 路 2017-04-17 13:37:00 路 #2890
Met a girl on Thursday for a drink (solid 6). She is older...around 36. We had a good rapport throughout the night with heavy kino and we made out a little. I was hoping to get the bang that night (anymore I'm disappointed if I don't get the bang on the first night) but it didn't happen. Yesterday I sent her a text asking when we were going to hang out again and she said sometime this week perhaps.

So she just sent me this:

"So what do you want to do if we hang out again?"

Obviously I want to say Fuck your brains out but I need to dress it up some. Should I say something like "Cuddle and watch a movie at my place?"
Jack_Smith 路 2017-04-17 14:06:00 路 #2891
(04-17-2017 01:37 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  Met a girl on Thursday for a drink (solid 6). She is older...around 36. We had a good rapport throughout the night with heavy kino and we made out a little. I was hoping to get the bang that night (anymore I'm disappointed if I don't get the bang on the first night) but it didn't happen. Yesterday I sent her a text asking when we were going to hang out again and she said sometime this week perhaps.

So she just sent me this:

"So what do you want to do if we hang out again?"

Obviously I want to say Fuck your brains out but I need to dress it up some. Should I say something like "Cuddle and watch a movie at my place?"

Thoughts on your status.
  • You're in Her Frame - She's Making You Pitch Her a Date Idea for her Approval
  • Your Proposed Response Plays Right Into Her Frame
  • You're Pitching Her a Version of "NetFlix & Chill" - Tired, Weak & JV
  • Question Mark = Playing Into Her Frame/Approval Seeking/Weak

Thoughts on next steps.
  • Break Out of Her Frame of Pitching "Date Ideas"
  • Don't Ask / No Question Mark
  • Tell Her What You Want and When
  • Create a Situation Where She Must Invest (or Miss the Opportunity)

I like the cooking date for a D2, especially for this age Demo. Have her cook with you and bring wine (invest). Its a "do together" type date, vs. you taking her out. (More investment.) It's at yours, so isolation. If she posts, she's DTF. If not, you know exactly where you stand. Cooking Together = God Tier Plausible Deniability.

My Next Text

Jack: "I want you to come make my World Famous Shrimp Tacos with me on Thursday (4/20) after work. I'll handle the food; you bring the wine."
[email聽protected] /* */ 路 2017-04-18 09:42:00 路 #2892
So thought I would update my recent interaction as it's pretty humorous.

Jack_Smith I took your advice and modified it a bit but it was along the same lines "Come over and I'll make you dinner. You bring the drinks". She agreed to it.

Then she texts me back a few hours later and says she is feeling anxiety about coming over to my place because she had a bad experience last time going over to guys house. She asked me if I wanted to know why, and because I needed a good laugh (I knew where her story was going) I said sure.

She proceeded to tell me "she went to a guys house and they went on a motorcycle ride and then she told him she had to go home but her purse was in his garage. He said she couldn't go home yet and he grabbed her purse and ran inside his house. She was mad and followed him up to his room and there he told her she couldn't leave and then started kissing her. She kissed him back because she was afraid what he would do if she said no. She kept saying she had to go home but he threw her on the bed and took off her pants. He opened his drawer and had whips and sex toys in the drawer and pulled out a whip and started whipping her back. Then he fucked her. She said she just laid there because she was scared and didn't know what to do. She went home and told her friend about it and her friend told her to call the police. But she already had so much drama in her life that she didn't want to add to it."

Hard nexting this one.
Investment Bro 路 2017-04-18 10:27:00 路 #2893
(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  But she already had so much drama in her life that she didn't want to add to it."

Hard nexting this one.

You dodged a ticking time bomb like a champ. Good on you for getting a laugh out of this.
Jack_Smith 路 2017-04-18 10:48:00 路 #2894
(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  So thought I would update my recent interaction as it's pretty humorous.

Thanks! Always fun to hear.

(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Jack_Smith I took your advice and modified it a bit but it was along the same lines "Come over and I'll make you dinner. You bring the drinks". She agreed to it.

Boom.

(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Then she texts me back a few hours later and says she is feeling anxiety about coming over to my place because she had a bad experience last time going over to guys house. She asked me if I wanted to know why, and because I needed a good laugh (I knew where her story was going) I said sure.

This sort of buyer's remorse happens nearly 100% of the time IME. She's down, wants to come play, realizes that she doesn't know you that well, and reaches out for reassurance. That means its COMFORT time.

Horny_Girl_36: You're not an axe murderer are you?!? Had a bad experience last time going over to guys house... Do you want want to know why?

Jack: I'm pretty sure you can bring out my naughty side...also pretty sure that doesn't include axe murderer... Wink

Jack: Joke's aside, there's nothing worse than being uncomfortable on someone else's turf. Absolutely don't want that for us. If you feel you need to bail on dinner, no worries.

That could use a tune up, but you get the idea. Tease a bit to maintain the sexual tension. Empathize with her apprehension. Reassure her. I like to reassure her by letting her out of the date. That signals "no pressure." There are many other moves with this, but that's my go to.


(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  She proceeded to tell me "she went to a guys house and they went on a motorcycle ride and then she told him she had to go home but her purse was in his garage. He said she couldn't go home yet and he grabbed her purse and ran inside his house. She was mad and followed him up to his room and there he told her she couldn't leave and then started kissing her. She kissed him back because she was afraid what he would do if she said no. She kept saying she had to go home but he threw her on the bed and took off her pants. He opened his drawer and had whips and sex toys in the drawer and pulled out a whip and started whipping her back. Then he fucked her. She said she just laid there because she was scared and didn't know what to do. She went home and told her friend about it and her friend told her to call the police. But she already had so much drama in her life that she didn't want to add to it."

Hard nexting this one.

Heard. Several flags in her little story there...
DarianFrey 路 2017-04-19 12:25:00 路 #2895
(04-18-2017 09:42 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  She proceeded to tell me "she went to a guys house and they went on a motorcycle ride and then she told him she had to go home but her purse was in his garage. He said she couldn't go home yet and he grabbed her purse and ran inside his house. She was mad and followed him up to his room and there he told her she couldn't leave and then started kissing her. She kissed him back because she was afraid what he would do if she said no. She kept saying she had to go home but he threw her on the bed and took off her pants. He opened his drawer and had whips and sex toys in the drawer and pulled out a whip and started whipping her back. Then he fucked her. She said she just laid there because she was scared and didn't know what to do. She went home and told her friend about it and her friend told her to call the police. But she already had so much drama in her life that she didn't want to add to it."

Sounds like she had a date with kaotic. Laugh
RunsWithScissors 路 2017-04-19 14:56:00 路 #2896
(04-19-2017 12:25 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Sounds like she had a date with kaotic. Laugh

That's exactly what I thought as soon as I read the motorcycle ride bit!
Sam Malone 路 2017-04-23 09:15:00 路 #2897
Been working on no porn/no fap, on Day 88 as of today.

Last week two of the girls in my rotation were out of town, and while I'm checking my email, I see that I've got a POF message. I sign in and read a message from a 50 year old woman telling me divorce sucks (my profile mentions that I'm divorced and getting back into my social circles). We exchange a few messages and compare divorce costs, and she's in the final stages of her divorce. I slowly turn the conversation sexual, using 'coffee' as sex.

We move to text (I gave her my number on POF, she texts me), and I give her a general idea where I live, and while she works about 10 miles away, she lives another 20 miles in the opposite direction. So later tonight is out, so I counter with when she gets out of work, but I have somewhere to be (dart league) at 6:30.

We work out the logistics, and she'll come over after work for an hour and change. She sends a text about 4:15 (she gets out at 4:30):

Her: "I can't see you I got up late and didn't shave my legs."
Me: "lol I'm a bit overdue in the manscaping dept myself unless your legs look like Sasquatch legs it don't bother me"

Her: "hehe.. what's your address ?

She walks in the door, even the pics via text don't do her justice. I would have pegged her at 42-43 max.

I kiss her, we chat a bit about her finding my house, she takes her shoes off, we kiss again, and I take her hand and lead her to the bedroom. I start fingering and she's tight as hell. She looks at me and with a wink says, "Three C-Sections... nice and tight down there."

Got the notch. Banged her three times, I only came the first time. She was begging me to cum the third time.

She's a bit of a ballbreaker, tells me when I meet her father* we have to lie about how we met, etc. We chat, and I tell her I play in a dart league (to keep kinda busy since the divorce). She's cool with it.

On the way out, I tell her to text me when she gets home. She texts me a few hours later, she forgot, the lawnmower repair guy was there and she got sidetracked. We chat a bit, I'm cute. We say goodnight.

I text around 9:00 the next morning, "Mornin' ", she responds a few minutes later. I ask how it went with the repair guy, he's gotta come back with the right part. I mention that my mother's lawn needs to be cut, and that she'll meet her Sunday*.

Her: "So it'll be Sunday dinner with both our parents. Cool. I'll make a pot roast or something and while our folks are looking at our baby pics we'll go make some coffee. We'll have to compile a lot of baby photos for them to look at. Good coffee takes time."

Here's where I think I may have screwed up, but I'm not sure.

Here are the messages verbatim:

Me: "So I shot darts last night.. quite well I might add"
Her: "Getting laid helps ?"
Me: "Lol I did so well that my teammates told me to do whatever I did yesterday. So if you don't come over before then, you come by Wednesday."
Me: "You know, for the good of the team and all (wink) (kiss)
Her: "You told them what you did didn't you ??"
Me: "Lol I told them I had a good day and left it at that"
Me: "I did have a good day too (wink) (kiss)
Her: "Haha I don't care if you tell. They don't know me."
Her: "Don't show them the 8x10 glossies."
Me: "OMG I can't believe you saw the camera and didn't say anything"

45 minutes later I text her..

Me: "lol I hope you realize I'm joking lol"
Her: "Hahaha. I know."
Me: "lol you went quiet after that... well played (smirk)"
Her: "You caught me looking for the lens...
Me: "(laughing emoji) (laughing emoji)

That was the last text Friday. I've spotted her active on POF since then (and by default she's seen me active).

While she's older (around my age), I wouldn't object to having her in my rotation somewhere. Great personality, nice body, pretty face, enthusiastic in bed.. all that said, I wouldn't LTR her.

The earliest I could have her over for another bang would be Monday night after 6:30. She gets out at 4:30, but lives 30 miles away. Not sure if she'd want to be in a holding pattern for two hours.

The next time she could come through would be 4:30 on Wednesday. And for at least a couple hours, as I don't have to be at darts until 8:00-ish.

Any thoughts on a restart text, and when ?
ksbms 路 2017-04-23 16:28:00 路 #2898
(04-23-2017 09:15 AM)Sam Malone Wrote:  I sign in and read a message from a 50 year old woman telling me divorce sucks [...] Got the notch. [...]
Player_1337 路 2017-04-24 13:50:00 路 #2899
Tinder match. Her last message seems clunky and try-hard.

me: can you take a compliment miss k
her: why yes of course
me: you kinda seem like you'd be fun to make out with
her: Thanks, I've received rave reviews to that point so you are certainly correct
Sam Malone 路 2017-04-24 14:18:00 路 #2900
(04-24-2017 01:50 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  Tinder match. Her last message seems clunky and try-hard.

me: can you take a compliment miss k
her: why yes of course
me: you kinda seem like you'd be fun to make out with
her: Thanks, I've received rave reviews to that point so you are certainly correct

"Reviews are one thing. I prefer to do my own in-depth research."
newbeginning 路 2017-04-24 15:29:00 路 #2901
I need some help. There is a girl who is coming up to my city for the weekend to see me. Its a 1.5 hr train ride and she texted me saying that she finds it "a little burdensome" to come up to my city three weekends in a row (this will be the third time shes coming). What should I text back? She already agreed to come up to see me but she's texting how she doesnt like the effort it takes to come up here (the other two times she came here for family related events). I'm wondering how i should hold frame. I do want to see her but I dont want to look like I failing a shit test of hers. Not sure how i should text back. I was wondering whether I should just tell her to stay home and rest (she can come of her free will - i dont need to cajole her) or just kid around and say whew im glad it you're only a little burdened.
ksbms 路 2017-04-24 16:06:00 路 #2902
(04-24-2017 03:29 PM)newbeginning Wrote:  I need some help. There is a girl who is coming up to my city for the weekend to see me. Its a 1.5 hr train ride and she texted me saying that she finds it "a little burdensome" to come up to my city three weekends in a row (this will be the third time shes coming). What should I text back? She already agreed to come up to see me but she's texting how she doesnt like the effort it takes to come up here (the other two times she came here for family related events). I'm wondering how i should hold frame. I do want to see her but I dont want to look like I failing a shit test of hers. Not sure how i should text back. I was wondering whether I should just tell her to stay home and rest (she can come of her free will - i dont need to cajole her) or just kid around and say whew im glad it you're only a little burdened.

Either:

"I understand"

or

"OK"

or

"Gay"

or

"Bring da movies"

or

Picture of a Birthday Cat.

or

Poor man's push - that is, no reply and it will tell you by her replying or not, where you stand.

or

If you feel frivolous: 8========D
MaceTyrell 路 2017-04-24 16:56:00 路 #2903
New beginning: Id play asshole game and go "good thing I'm worth it."
Player_1337 路 2017-04-24 19:59:00 路 #2904
(04-24-2017 04:06 PM)ksbms Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 03:29 PM)newbeginning Wrote:  I need some help. There is a girl who is coming up to my city for the weekend to see me. Its a 1.5 hr train ride and she texted me saying that she finds it "a little burdensome" to come up to my city three weekends in a row (this will be the third time shes coming). What should I text back? She already agreed to come up to see me but she's texting how she doesnt like the effort it takes to come up here (the other two times she came here for family related events). I'm wondering how i should hold frame. I do want to see her but I dont want to look like I failing a shit test of hers. Not sure how i should text back. I was wondering whether I should just tell her to stay home and rest (she can come of her free will - i dont need to cajole her) or just kid around and say whew im glad it you're only a little burdened.

Either:

"I understand"

or

"OK"

or

"Gay"

or

"Bring da movies"

or

Picture of a Birthday Cat.

or

Poor man's push - that is, no reply and it will tell you by her replying or not, where you stand.

or

If you feel frivolous: 8========D

Heartiste: Best All-Purpose Alpha Male Text Responses
newbeginning 路 2017-04-24 22:23:00 路 #2905
ksbms i did one of your suggestions: "i understand". she immediately responded saying she is coming up anyways. thanks a lot
crispytaco 路 2017-04-25 16:48:00 路 #2906
Good it worked for you !

I'd text someting like " good you are coming so you can try what I'll cook for you"
"Oh what are you gonna cook?"
"Breakfast in bed, of course"
ksbms 路 2017-04-25 18:08:00 路 #2907
(04-24-2017 10:23 PM)newbeginning Wrote:  ksbms i did one of your suggestions: "i understand". she immediately responded saying she is coming up anyways. thanks a lot

Not that it made it. Probably anything that you'd text that would show your attitude that you "Take it or leave it, girl, I'm fine as I am" would work. Glad it worked out, anyway.
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