kieran, I know a lot of sexy guys (NO HOMO) who are not getting lizards! Humour doesn't guarantee the pooze but it doesn't hurt chances..

I agree...Humor vs comedy...Is not the same thing...Making a girl laugh naturally in conversation is different from the art form used to entertain audiences.

Like anything you should use humor like a spice and not overdo it...Unless you're making millions in HBO specials and movie deals...then you pour it on...

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

Every time I write a few paragraphs I realize that its not getting the point across....This shit may take me a minute..

(03-31-2017 11:17 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  I'm a big ass black man with a resting bitch face.

Fixed it; you aint the only one brotha lol

(03-31-2017 12:06 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 11:17 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  I'm a big ass black man with a resting bitch face.

Fixed it; you aint the only one brotha lol

I think bitch face is for broads.

Lol, na bruh, I meant resting "mean" face, or maybe "pissed off" would be more appropriate because I get asked that shit all the time (especially from YT folks). "Hi, um, Dimebait, why do you look so pissed off all the time?" lol, Bitch I live in a fucking trash can!

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

Yes. This is the scenario:

You are at a house party. You have a group of 8 people surrounding you. You tell a funny story that happened in your life to the group. The whole group is laughing the whole and has its attention hooked to you. Girls at the party see this and associate you with higher status. Then you can easily game the girls at the party.

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

Yes. Most definitely.
And like Apollo said Its about humor not comedy.

Most things we do in life is to release endorphins, to feel good. Much like stress, the body doesnt differentiate between what causes us to release the endorphins, it all registers the same and we just want the emotional high again. Think about it, we don't travel because we hate it, we don't fuck girls because it makes us unhappy, we don't attend this forum because it makes us feel dirty. Everything we do in life is about producing a positive feeling for ourselves--to put a smile on our faces.

Now how does humor affect game.
Its more of an amplifier/multimplier or game.

(03-31-2017 11:34 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  The comedy angle doesn't work for me

I am not there to entertain some woman, she has to entertain me or show me something I haven't seen before.

Thats hogwash and you know it. If you felt you weren't here to entertain a woman you wouldn't feel it necessary to present yourself in a certain light. Even IG game is one been DHV of "look how entertaining my life is." You cannot afford to be boring if you like getting laid.

Are there other ways to do this? of course, thats why I believe that humor is more of a multiplier.

How does it work?
I am the alpha and you all are no dependent on me for smiles.

1) Establish control/Assert dominance: You will give me your attention and listen to what I have to say patiently

2) establish dependancy: With me in your life releasing endorphins is easy. Humans will naturally look for the path of least resistance

3) establish competition: Females will fight for your attention, they are all miserable and don't want the others to be happy

4) Pick a winner: Pick a girl you want to focus of closing the deal with

Group Setting.
I'm talking to them and I'm making them laugh but how and why does this help my game?

AMOG.

In a group full of girls I have captured their attention. Multiple displays of humor show that I actually am that dude that can put a smile on their faces and release those endorphins. Im also running game on them through out this process. Im asking them questions and shit and when I find an answer that can be made fun of I'll engage on a light roasting session trying to keep it light and sexual--tease her for being naughty, make fun of her for having a phat ass, etc
Women are like dogs pissing on their territory and I have noticed a shift in how they position themselves amongst each other as ways to assert their claim over myself--it was a subconscious jockeying for position .


If the group setting is a mixed group of guys and girls it can be more effective and powerful. In my thread on using jokes to game a room this is what I was alluding to & now realize didn't do a good job of explaining.

In a situation of all girls you get your pick of the litter.
Problem is when you do pick the one you want you have just made multiple other girls into cock blocks. In a mixed group setting you have other males to off load the girls you don't want.

A major benefit to a mixed group is the fact that you have exerted emotional control over the men in this group--this to me is what makes comics effective. its not the humor its the control. On a caveman/woman level I control the men in the group now. I tell them when to laugh, when to shut up and listen, etc. I am the AMOG. As a cavewoman this is mating in its most basic level--acquire the mate with the strongest genetic material.

Pair Setting

Similar to group setting when dealing with all girls. Easier to focus and make fun of them at the same time vs 4+ girls. I met two indian girls downtown and the clear turning point in the interaction was when they both some borderline rude shit about how their friendship in structured and I teased them calling one of them an controlling and manipulative and the other a dick. Both jaws dropped, they looked at each other, looked back at me and both, eyes wide smiled.

As I wrap this up I've come to the conclusion that humor is basically getting really good at teasing and thinking outside the box. Sometimes I'll say some shit and you can see the look in the girls face that she didn't expect me to take teasing her to a place she never knew existed.
Dave Chappelle does a lot of this in his two new specials.

Even that Wildin out video I posted is basically amplified teasing. End the end its all about game. Humor is a tool used to amplify your verbal game and make yourself a more attractive mate selection before you even start specifically gaming a certain girl (group settings).

(03-31-2017 12:28 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 12:06 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 11:17 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  I'm a big ass black man with a resting bitch face.

Fixed it; you aint the only one brotha lol

I think bitch face is for broads.

Lol, na bruh, I meant resting "mean" face, or maybe "pissed off" would be more appropriate because I get asked that shit all the time (especially from YT folks). "Hi, um, Dimebait, why do you look so pissed off all the time?" lol, Bitch I live in a fucking trash can!

Yea thats resting bitch face. This is another ploy in humor though. When YT folks ask you that if you fire back with "I have RBF" and then tell them "Resting Bitch Face" hook, line, and sinker.


Girls eat that shit up because they know exactly what you are talking about.

"this guy gets me "

If you say resting mean face sounds like your self censoring know what I mean.
Try it next time and try to tell me it doesnt work lol

As far as having a sense of humor/being funny and getting women -- you can't be the clown/court jester. This was a problem for me when I was younger. I was everybody's good time buddy. But it hardly ever result in pulling chicks. I'm a guy that loves to joke around and laugh a lot. But I had a couple of women mention to me that I laughed/joked around too much. So I recalibrated my sense of humor a bit -- also getting older and more serious about things. Now with women, I laugh a bit less and crack jokes with a straight face with no complaints. Of course with my male friends I act more natural (silly).

@Mufasa - my game and my humour is different to yours.

You are obviously a high energy type of guy and by the videos you post I would say you are young.

Most girls and people won't get my dry British humour, living in Canada.

So my dealings with girls consists of me dumbing down myself a bit, which has been discussed before and some guys don't feel comfortable doing it.

IG is just a small facet of my game, I use it as a way to show my softer side with my nature photo pics and to show my travels. If I was trying to impress a girl, I could post a lot of materialistic BS - which I don't. As Vinny wrote on his excellent blog, being seen in different countries shows the girls that you can afford to travel.

I had a nice conversation with a Hungarian cutie yesterday over IG, she was very persistent on knowing how I can travel to so many places.

I play the Travel angle when I can because it is one of my strengths and also most black guys aren't well travelled.

Most black guys are seen as not having money, having kids out of wedlock and you know the rest. So presenting myself as being not "that" guy is half the battle.
Being the quiet, not sure what he is thinking type of guy seems to be working. I have been getting a lot of interest from the ladies as of late, granted most of them are from the gym.

(03-31-2017 11:34 AM)rudebwoy Wrote:  The comedy angle doesn't work for me, I can understand if your a big guy then being funny tones it down.

I am not there to entertain some woman, she has to entertain me or show me something I haven't seen before. Yeah, it is hard to find and there are a lot of jokers that you are competing with these days.

Man, I need to find a decent balance between the two. After reading this, it dawned on me why I don't really enjoy hanging out with a lot of the bishes I've been talking to because it feels too much like work. I really would like to find a bish who keeps me entertained just as much if not more.

I guess I have, what may be characterized as, an irrational fear of being a dick and the unnecessary need to overcompensate in the interactions. Next time I'm just going try to just sit back and see what happens as a social experiment. Can you give me an example of how you're queuing her to 'entertain' you?

This shit has been today's epiphany!

@DB - A lot of girls I interact with are over 30 years of age. I get the feeling you are dealing with similar aged women.

These women will generally talk about the same mundane crap. Their job, kid, adorable niece/nephew, pet, girlfriends, car, ex boyfriend or some guys that want them so badly. Everything is calculated in a way to show you that they have high value, they are special and they are in demand.
So like you said it is a lot of work dealing with them and listening to their BS.

Going on a date with them resembles a job interview, meaning are you worthy of their time and being with them.

I flip the script and show them something they ALL desire, which is to travel and experience new things.

Like I mentioned before I will talk about some exotic trip I have taken and the crazy adventures I did on the trip like mountain climbing, snorkeling, riding a motorcycle (scooter but bike sounds cooler).
By doing this I have shown her that, I can afford to travel, I like adventure, I like to try new things, I probably have no kids to support and I am WAY cooler than her and if she plays her cards right I MAY take her on a trip one of these days.

So now she has to "entertain" me, show me that she likes adventure, trying new things and is cool enough for me to travel with.

Like you said, it is a social experiment. I am now screening her and not the other way around.
She is not use to this behaviour, like you rightly said most dudes will try and overcompensate in the interactions. You can see the wheels turning in her brain and now she is wondering what I am thinking.

As a older man, there is a certain vibe I give off and I have a certain frame. Just like you I can be a dick and come across as being arrogant, so I am aware of this and calibrate my personality likewise.
I have tried the teasing, negs, back turns etc. Most women are very sensitive and self conscious, so any teasing can come across like a diss. Being cocky and funny makes me look like a bigger asshole than I already am.

I also come from a sales background, so any good salesman knows he has to listen to the customer and ask questions. Before he delivers his pitch and closes the deal.

Dealing with these girls is like walking a tightrope, say the wrong thing and you could fall off very easily.

So my game is very strategic.

(03-31-2017 12:36 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

Yes. This is the scenario:

You are at a house party. You have a group of 8 people surrounding you. You tell a funny story that happened in your life to the group. The whole group is laughing the whole and has its attention hooked to you. Girls at the party see this and associate you with higher status. Then you can easily game the girls at the party.

Can a player easily mack on a chick after making the group laugh?

What's the mechanism?

Let's see if we can tease it out in a practical sense.

WIA

    Another summer look

loll Mufasa..you lot are strong!

Weekend report including first ever Tinder dates coming soon. 3 days, 2 dates with two different Euro girls in different countries. Coming soon. (still in Hamburg at the moment)

Maybe I should start my own journal in a separate thread.

(04-01-2017 09:21 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 12:36 PM)Iso Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

Yes. This is the scenario:

You are at a house party. You have a group of 8 people surrounding you. You tell a funny story that happened in your life to the group. The whole group is laughing the whole and has its attention hooked to you. Girls at the party see this and associate you with higher status. Then you can easily game the girls at the party.

Can a player easily mack on a chick after making the group laugh?

What's the mechanism?

Let's see if we can tease it out in a practical sense.

WIA

How does being social at a bar or bringing a few hot girls at the bar make it easier to open another girl? It's pretty much the same concept. Show off your social proof and girls will be wondering "who is that guy making everyone laugh".

(03-31-2017 10:25 AM)blck Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 09:24 AM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(03-31-2017 08:43 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So getting better at making chicks laugh is getting y'all more pussy?

Explain

WIA

I don't think it's persay laughing as it is learning how to keep women hooked. A guy who makes people laugh tends to be an expert at keeping the attention of people. The average guy on the other hand can't sense boredom and keeps mouthing off.

I used to think that way, fighting for girl's attention and it's a lot of work...
Now I want her to have fun seeking to keep my attention, that I validate her way of thinking and in my mind I'm just contradict everything she is coming with and come with something better, to make her justify herself more and more to me...

You're not fighting for her attention. You're making it so the only thing she is able to focus on in an environment is you. Aka keeping her hooked.

Allow me to elaborate.

Don't assume I'm sitting their twiddling my thumbs while she does what she wants. Say if I'm flirting with a chick and then she sidesteps to take a call or even for half a minute to send a text I'll be busy cracking jokes with the rest of the room so she can't give me the "sorry about that" she gives every other guy. A guy with humor naturally does that. He doesn't do it the "red pill" way by walking off or "negging" her.

I'm doing my thing. I'm doing what I love. She can't help but have her attention be dedicated to me. If she steps out and doesn't want to keep looking, she's missing out.

And to have that kind of mentality you can't be the average joe schmo who mouths off like how I mentioned in the original response. He's someone who doesn't have the finesse to do his thing.

Still thinking about Dime's tool kit

Humor and jokes
Stories
Cold reads
Teasing
Physical moves
Games
Roleplay
Using third parties (social proof)
Props
Eliciting values and pacing values
Shocking statements

Delivery, setting, costume all play parts in creating the experience.

Every so often I think I've got all the pieces organized, and then it's not exactly right.

Asked the homie soup once if you can pull without humor, and I now think it was an odd but prescient question.

Humor and the other emotions are the goals of the techniques, and the induced emotions - the whipsaw effect is the actual thing that engages a chick mentally.

From my perspective, and to bring in the book "Hooked" - humor/wonder/alienation etc are all all about creating that what is going to happen next feeling that all people crave.

To use a modern analogy, a good universal game is basically having her scroll through the experience, but limiting the intermittent rewards and exchanging them for compliance.

WIA

Morning Gents.

I trust you all had a great weekend.

3 new shows will be recorded this month.

-Sex show
-Get Out movie review (White Girl dating show)
-Another show that we are trying to finalize

Archie we would love to have you back on the podcast. If any of the above topics excite you, feel free to join us.

Perhaps you could discuss the cold reads, teasing, physical props etc in greater detail and how you use it on a date.

We all live in different areas and different markets.

Living in the UK, I loved the fact that humour was a big part of the culture. I love to bust jokes on my friends and people in general. No one gets offended and it is a great way to socialize.

Living in Canada (infamous city). People love to tell jokes and make fun of other people. However, they cannot take a joke and get upset when the joke is on them.

In America, I assume most people are too dumb to get my jokes.








That was a joke boys LOL

(03-23-2017 03:14 PM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(03-23-2017 01:30 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  No not really, maybe something like an accessory. (bead bracelets).

yoga bracelets are popping. Always attention grabbers

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KGVV7OK/ref...JFDI&psc=1

I wore those out this weekend and got 2 compliments. I can confirm that they grab attention.

(04-01-2017 02:03 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  @DB - A lot of girls I interact with are over 30 years of age. I get the feeling you are dealing with similar aged women.

These women will generally talk about the same mundane crap. Their job, kid, adorable niece/nephew, pet, girlfriends, car, ex boyfriend or some guys that want them so badly. Everything is calculated in a way to show you that they have high value, they are special and they are in demand.


Going on a date with them resembles a job interview, meaning are you worthy of their time and being with them.

I flip the script and show them something they ALL desire, which is to travel and experience new things.


So now she has to "entertain" me, show me that she likes adventure, trying new things and is cool enough for me to travel with.

I am now screening her and not the other way around.
She is not use to this behaviour, like you rightly said most dudes will try and overcompensate in the interactions. You can see the wheels turning in her brain and now she is wondering what I am thinking.


I also come from a sales background, so any good salesman knows he has to listen to the customer and ask questions. Before he delivers his pitch and closes the deal.

Dealing with these girls is like walking a tightrope, say the wrong thing and you could fall off very easily.

So my game is very strategic.

Had a couple "dates" this weekend. I toned down my "performance" considerably. One was with a 26 y.o. secretary at my job (I know, I know), but I didn't smash even though she stayed the night. I made it clear that if she wasn't giving it up easily it wasn't worth me pursuing. She'll make a good social proof friend. In fact, I had her on Snapchat laying in the bed with me. Of course all the other hens in my SC hen house got roused up and begin hitting me up. As a matter of fact, I gotta hiking date with one particularly elusive one next week.
Anyway, so in that situation, I clearly had the higher value, but I could tell she thought her poossy and my desire to get it, gave her equal footing. I was unequivocally clear that at my age and experience, I could care less about her snatch. The dynamics of the interaction soon changed dramatically.

Next, was 41 year old professional chic. Typical standoffish, I'm doing you a favor by being here, let me qualify you type behavior you mentioned above. I didn't play along. Like you mentioned in a previous post, I got her talking about what she enjoys and let her ramble on and on. Convo wasn't quite 90/10, but more like 65/35. I brought her up to my apartment and she tried to give me "the expectations talk" in the elevator. Again, I had to explain how her poossy held little power over me at my age, and more importantly, HER age and in fact, I don't fuck for free. (I love that song by Drake BTW).
I didn't even try to smash. I just invited my homies up who were in the area and showed her just how important I thought she was.

(04-03-2017 08:12 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Still thinking about Dime's tool kit

Humor and jokes
Stories
Cold reads
Teasing
Physical moves
Games
Roleplay
Using third parties (social proof)
Props
Eliciting values and pacing values
Shocking statements

Delivery, setting, costume all play parts in creating the experience.

Every so often I think I've got all the pieces organized, and then it's not exactly right.


To use a modern analogy, a good universal game is basically having her scroll through the experience, but limiting the intermittent rewards and exchanging them for compliance.

WIA

On my two lil dates this weekend, I tried to stick to the script as best I could. It definitely makes the interaction much more strategic and easier in my opinion.
I used to be a grand story teller in my drinking days. I'm not quite sure why I have to deliberately try to remember to tell them now. I told stories about shit I read in books or on the interact and just changed the characters to fit my lifestyle. I believe stories are the single best strategy to gaming, whether it be in politics, sales, or with women. Years back, I was in a political leadership fellowship (when I was seriously thinking about running for office). They hammered home the art of storytelling. We watched Barack Obama speeches on how he perfectly integrated stories to fit his narrative. It's definitely something I need to do more of.

Women love cold "accurate" reads. Honestly, I don't know why I haven't done it more because I'm very good at reading people. I will definitely incorporate this more. It kinda fits in with teasing and shocking statements.

Eliciting values and qualifying can play off each other well.

I think, like any good salesman, politician, trial attorney or comedian, one has to quickly analyze his subject then briefly tailor his material. I'm getting better at this.


Thank you guys for the input and motivation. My goal is date 100 women in a year and write a book about it.

I was talking to DB offline and he sent me this note. I thought I had touched on this before, but seems like I did not.

"During my last couple dates, while there were a couple moments of seemingly awkward silence, I found the women just as willing, if not more, to step up there convo game. In the past, it was always me doing whatever I could to avoid moments of silence"

This is golden tactic I have been using for awhile.

So what's the intel on Ethiopia? I know banned member Anabis was from there but any of you guys been/pulled an Ethiopian chick?

Women never cease in pushing me to new levels of I don't give a fuckness. bless their little hearts..

Also. I think I may enjoy rejecting a girl that had previously curved me but now sees me ballin and now wants a slice more than busting nuts. Me and a childhood friend got into a conversation about this shit while talking about IG game. The gram is a great equalizer.