Post: #326

I just can't believe Macron is the favorite to even get 2nd place at the 1st round. It's entirely possible the polls are rigged and fillon makes it to 2nd round. Remember the EU is at stake here, it makes sense to rig the polls for Macron. I know what the polls say, the question is do you believe it? I dont. If I had time I'd run the polling methodology and funding sources through Google translation to verify their credibility myself.

Post: #327

Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

Post: #328

(03-22-2017 05:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

I think after Brexit and Trump they will leave nothing to chance from this point on. I think anyone who was on the side of cuck candidates will get out now and make sure they vote rather than staying in and assuming their candidates will win.That's not to mention the other means at their disposal.

Post: #329

(03-22-2017 01:40 PM)911 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 07:43 AM)balybary Wrote:  Fuck Macron and Hamon

Hamon is a typical left wing politician, he's more of an idiot than a total whore like Macron, so I respect him slightly more than Macron.


On the iconic Delacroix painting above: this painting represents the first instance of women's liberation and revolutionary feminism as a tool for subversion and social control. It all started there...

Sexual liberation was closely tied with feminism, that's what you see in the painting, women were encouraged to bare themselves, and the French Revolution was conflated with sexual revolution, with authors like the marquis de Sade and the concept of libertinage emerging as social forces to overturn the traditional French Catholic order. Notice how the word "libertinage" itself conflates liberty with sexual perversion.

Women in the French Revolution desecrated churches by prancing naked, very much in the same manner Femen whores have done recently (not a coincidence, there is a deliberate choreography there). There is also an echo to this in the DC Women's March, with women putting forward to their "nastyness". Their pussy hats are inspired by the French Revolution red bonnets, which themselves were taken from middle eastern pagan deities (mithra) that the French freemasons worshiped.


Dr. E. Michael Jones covers very well the historic and social aspects of sexual liberation, revolution as forms of social control in this video (which I've already posted in the thread about GQ sexual degeneracy):





This is not irrelevant to this thread, because the French deep state is a continuation of the powers that conspired to overthrow the Bourbon dynasty, neo-liberalism and social degeneracy started there and are being upheld by their appointed puppets (Sarko-Hollande-Macron).

French Revolution was what? Not a proletarian uprising which is frequently told, but a revolt of the Bourgeois class (means Citizen) and who were these "citizens" and what didn't they like about nobility? Well, they didn't like that their political influence was limited, that their money couldn't buy political power, because Blue Blood (heritage of medieval warrior Kings), superceded the raw power of money. You put two and two together to figure out what "moneyed class" really means eh?

It was well known at the times that the Masons, but more specifically the Illuminati, was involved in the French Revolution. There are contemporary sources from royals in Europe discussing this. Back then, the Illuminati did exist, today they call themselves all kinds of things, Bilderberger, CFR, AIPAC, you get the picture.

What we as the right are experiencing now is a revolution against the Bourgeouis ethics which is utilitarian only. Marxism is the other coin of the Bourgeouis, yet they are both from the same well of egalitarianism.

As it may be, the Alt-Right, some may know, most probably don't, but the people are saying that they reject the idea of the moneyed class and their ethics. We want Kings and Clergy, we want power to rest in warrior Kings and our spirituality to rest with a Priestly class, not in Hollywood. This is the constant failing and hubris of the moneyed class, they are never content to control the gold (of which they hoard and their only talent), no, they want to be admired, they want to worshipped, but we don't want to worship nerdy jewish investment bankers.

Post: #330

(03-22-2017 05:17 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 05:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

I think after Brexit and Trump they will leave nothing to chance from this point on. I think anyone who was on the side of cuck candidates will get out now and make sure they vote rather than staying in and assuming their candidates will win.That's not to mention the other means at their disposal.

Which opens the whole thing to questions such as; How are they going to get these two to face off with each other given the current position of Le Pen and the situation in France?

There is an interesting novel on something like this, albeit with an Islamic slant to it.

Submission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submission_(novel)

Post: #331

(03-22-2017 06:47 AM)balybary Wrote:  

Quote:does anyone know when the Fillons' will get their verdict?

The first round of the election is in one month, it's unlikely that Fillon will get a verdict before the first round.
*snip*
If the media investigate about Macron (as they do with Fillon), they can find some dirt about Macron too.

Call me cynical, but I think if Macron and Fillon make it, the verdict would be delayed, but if Le Pen and Fillon get through, it'll be quickly resolved. Fillon is bad for the globalists, but Le Pen is their worse nightmare.

(03-22-2017 05:06 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  I just can't believe Macron is the favorite to even get 2nd place at the 1st round. It's entirely possible the polls are rigged and fillon makes it to 2nd round. Remember the EU is at stake here, it makes sense to rig the polls for Macron. I know what the polls say, the question is do you believe it? I dont. If I had time I'd run the polling methodology and funding sources through Google translation to verify their credibility myself.

The polls may be rigged, but the election would be a lot harder to rig what with voter ID and paper ballots, besides, one if not two of the main establishment parties is against Macron, so they'll put up a fight if there is fraud.

(03-22-2017 05:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

That depends on the internal polling they have. They'd prefer Macron beating Le Pen over losing to Fillon.

Post: #332

(03-22-2017 05:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

They don't trust Fillon. You can tell they don't, because of the incredible 360 degree 24/7 barrage against him, they're throwing the kitchen sink at him, down to his suits and two watches.

He's been a decent soldier so far, but he's not reliable because he's not ideologically committed to the cause, in fact he is the opposite of that: family man, five clean-cut kids, nice steady wife, practicing Catholic (that's a pretty big deal in 21st century France), conservative French values (lives in a manor in the countryside, raised his kids in a small town). He kind of epitomizes the values and culture that the French globalists have been trying to eradicate through many policies (war on farmers, on small businesses, on culture, on families etc). He's not exactly your gender studies type.

Fillon as well identifies with Putin. The French upper class has a lot of respect for White Russia, there were ties that were forged when upper class and anti-communist Christian Russians fled from the Bolsheviks. Upper class French kids learn Russian in school along with Latin. The globalists hate the new Russia, they've always did, that's why they financed the Bolcheviks and destroyed that country.

The globalists don't really own him, they've already aired all the skeletons that the French deep state could dig on him. Macron on the other hand is totally theirs (private life and finances).

Fillon reminds me of Raymond Barre, another center-right prime minister. Old school good guy who went rogue towards the end of his career, criticizing the deep state.

Given the amount of crap they've thrown at Fillon, if he makes it, he's going to do his own thing, which will get him reelected. France is a centralized mid-sized nation and the President has a lot of powers, he can for example fire all the homos, masons and commies running the large French public media outlets (one of whom is Macron's steady beau), and put his own people in charge.

Fillon has got a decent immigration policy, he would stop the refugees and have a smaller version of the Canadian/Aussie immigration point system. Not as tough as le Pen's, but it will still stop the flood. All the others are Merkelish.

Post: #333

(03-22-2017 07:23 PM)911 Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 05:14 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  Its so obvious they want Macron and Fillon to be the contenders.

They don't trust Fillon. You can tell they don't, because of the incredible 360 degree 24/7 barrage against him, they're throwing the kitchen sink at him, down to his suits and two watches.

You are right, especially as Fillon is pretty much guaranteed strong parliamentary support next election. Parliamentary elections are first past the post, so En Marche will just divide the Socialist support, leading to a LR landslide.

He has over 30 years worth of connections to get stuff done, if he doesn't cuck out, France will change for the better.

I am hoping for Fillon v. Le Pen, especially if Fillon offers a Frexit referendum as a sweetener. If both France and the UK leave, the EU project will wither and die.

Post: #334

Good point about the parliamentary elections Simian.

Here are a couple of pictures and a French DW article to illustrate my point about French White Russian links:

the most visited monument in Nice is the St-Nicolas Russian Orthodox Church,
built by Russians in 1912, back when they practically started the
French Riviera (along with the Brits):




the Russian Orthodox church in Paris' 8th Arrondissement:





Article on the Russian heritage of Nice

Post: #335

(03-22-2017 10:44 PM)911 Wrote:  the most visited monument in Nice is the St-Nicolas Russian Orthodox Church,
built by Russians in 1912, back when they practically started the
French Riviera (along with the Brits):

Thank you for the rep point.

Here's the cathedral from the same angle but on a sunnier day.

Post: #336

^ That's a magnificent-looking church.

I've never heard of it before.

Post: #337

(03-23-2017 12:51 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  

(03-22-2017 10:44 PM)911 Wrote:  the most visited monument in Nice is the St-Nicolas Russian Orthodox Church,
built by Russians in 1912, back when they practically started the
French Riviera (along with the Brits):

Thank you for the rep point.

Here's the cathedral from the same angle but on a sunnier day.

Modern architecture is a crime against humanity.

Post: #338

^^^

A new orthodox church was finished in Paris in 2016, I have never visited it, but based on the photo, first I was thinking it was still under construction.

Cathédrale de la Sainte-Trinité de Paris (orthodoxe russe):

Post: #339

(03-23-2017 12:13 PM)balybary Wrote:  Cathédrale de la Sainte-Trinité de Paris (orthodoxe russe):

That's the most unorthodox Orthodox Church I've ever seen. I'm surprised there are many wealthy Russians in France, as I would have thought they'd be scared off by the wealth tax.

BTW, why does Melenchon love Russia so much? Is he just nostalgic for the Soviet Union?

Post: #340

It's unorthodox, but it's also unmistakably orthodox with those golden onion domes, interesting take... The church is part of a Russian cultural center. It's located near the new Branly anthropology museum, and the ministry of foreign affairs.

I don't know if Melenchon really loves Russia, it's more that he has a surprisingly realistic perspective on the whole Russia/EE thing, probably because he was a former commie and understands its Soviet history (well at least the borders/nationalities angle of that history). He said that the eastern borders were not properly settled and needed to be negotiated (he's right about this IMO), and that Russia and the Baltic states for instance have had wars for over a thousand years, and that France is not going to get dragged into a war between NATO and Russia over this. It was a surprisingly solid case for sanity in EE.

Post: #341

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/24/marine-le...sachs.html

Most mainstream publications are repeating this statistic that says 42% of voters are uncertain who they are voting for. Just like the Trump election, it's highly doubtful most of these uncertain people don't already have their minds up and it's likely they are concealing their intentions to vote for the non-PC candidate. Based on this, it's possible for Le Pen to take the election in the first round. It's even possible for Fillon to make it to 2nd round if "uncertain" voters are actually Fillon voters.

Post: #342

(03-24-2017 08:48 PM)[email protected] Wrote:  It's even possible for Fillon to make it to 2nd round if "uncertain" voters are actually Fillon voters.

I suspect the same thing, no one wants to talk about the jobs scandal for the millonth time with pollsters. I hope he gets through. not just because I'll win low six figures, but we cannot risk the lefties rallying around Macron.


Here's an excellent but long article on Marine Le Pen, her policies, family and party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-...ine_le_pen

Do not dismiss it because it's the BBC, it'll be an excellent article to bring hesitant people around to vote for her. It's a shame there is no French version.

Post: #343

The big media are managing a huge smear campaign against Fillon.

For example, an entrepreneur have offered him a watch made by his company, entrepreneurs are spending their time offering stuffs to celebrities and popular people (marketing 101).

This little story of watch is at the top of the Google news.

At the same time macron is portrayed as the good guy by the media, no investigation about him.

20 years ago, such a smear campaign would have stopped Fillon’s chance of winning. But as we have seen with the victory of Trump, many people don’t trust the media nowadays. Fillon needs to keep fighting back against the media.

If Macron is elected, “his” plan is to promote mass immigration and to give the French citizenship easily.

Macron wants to change the demographic of France, so it would be impossible for a guy like Trump (a guy with non PC bullshit) to win the election in the futures years.

Post: #344

So they want to drop Fillon in hopes of an easy ride against Le Pen? Where have we seen this before...

Post: #345

Interesting article, thanks.

Marine looked pretty decent young:

Post: #346

A common attack against some French politicians is the line « He/ she is friend with Vladimir Putin. He/She is a puppet of the Russians”.

Fillon, Lepen or Mélenchon are suspicious friends of the Russians according to some media.

This attack is stupid since the French people have nothing against the Russian people. Some leftists don’t like Putin but they know nothing about Russia and they don’t really care of this distant country.

A good news is that the socialist Hamon has broken the non-aggression pact with Mélenchon.

http://www.bfmtv.com/politique/alexis-co...30125.html

Quote:Alexis Corbière, le porte-parole de Jean-Luc Mélenchon, n'a pas apprécié que Benoît Hamon dresse un parallèle entre le candidat de la France insoumise et Vladimir Poutine. "Jean-Luc Mélenchon serait fasciné par Poutine alors on a toujours dénoncé ce régime qui est une oligarchie",

Post: #347

If you go by people who actually are passionate about their candidates then it is again another Donald Trump.

We will see how much the con-artists lied this time. Her support may be even as high as 60% if 40% of people claim that they are undecided.

I sure hope for Europe - that might slow down the the world war a couple of years.

Post: #348

Goldman Sachs is wising up after Trump's victory:

Goldman Sachs Tells Investors Marine Le Pen Could Be France’s Next President

Quote:Global head of Goldman Sachs’ MarketStrats group, Vedral said the market is too complacent over the upcoming election in France.

This week, he sent customers his analysis by email which read: “while the base case is that she won’t, it is at best naive, at worst negligent to assume she can’t.”

While he agrees with polls, which show arch-globalist former banker Emmanuel Macron will be made president of France in May, the strategist cautioned that there is data in the surveys which raises doubts.

When asked who they would vote for in the second round of the election in May (a runoff between the top two vote-getters if no one wins more than 50 per cent of the vote in the first round on April 23), a significant proportion of respondents answered “don’t know”, with the proportion reaching as high as 42 per cent, depending on the candidate mix.

Citing the “shy voter” theory, the idea that people can be reluctant to tell pollsters they intend to vote for a right-wing option in elections — thought to have been at work when electorates opted for Brexit and Donald Trump — Vedral said he believes that a large number of those people don’t want to admit they will vote for populist Marine Le Pen.

On a side note, Swedes of all people, are now tired of the rapefugees:

Post: #349

(03-27-2017 08:40 AM)balybary Wrote:  A good news is that the socialist Hamon has broken the non-aggression pact with Mélenchon.

I'm not sure that's a good thing. Can you see a lifelong UMP supporter stomaching a vote for the far left in the second round? Le Pen would win against either of them.

Post: #350

This election is very unpredictable, the polls are useless and probably rigged.
I don’t know if Hamon can beat Lepen on the second round, for me the best case scenario is a second round Lepen VS Fillon so France avoids the 2 fucking faggots Hamon and Macron.

The main purpose of becoming president of France is to have a revolving door of pussies (Mitterand, Chirac, Hollande,etc.), so why a faggot should become president.