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kirdiesel 路 2017-02-20 20:56:00 路 #4501
(02-20-2017 06:07 PM)the high Wrote:  With all the talent in NY, why would you exclusively target white girls?

I do have an answer to this question but its tough without explaining my whole life's story so ill chop it up quick.



Grew up in black neighborhood - Castigated by the community. (Black women out)

Went to white HS.. developed affinity for white women (made moves)

went to a top NY school early 2000s - accelerated progress with white women.

Start clubbing/club game - Club Exit/Soundfactory - more White people/white women-.. Lots of Hard Trance Music... Not really minorities in these places.

Changed over to another club.. Discovered European Aupairs are in supply there and got Maximum traction... ONS, notches doubling up... more more more progress with white chicks.

- Tried Latin clubs... Low Traction.. Dont like Salsa/Merengue/Bachata.. Dont really speak Spanish.. fuck it. (Latin women out)

Became a club promoter.. developed a niche... tons of Euro white chicks as my customers... no latin or black girls in my clientele.

Moved to Germany - Guess what?...... More white chicks! (Made out with one Colombian girl since I been here so thats something)

Thats my story in a nutshell... Why ive really never targeted other races despite all the other prospects in the area.

I guess its my fault but so is life. I am trying to expand into other girls since being in Germany but when you are an expert in what you know its not so much fun to walk into the unknown and start from scratch all over again.
Topshelfhemp 路 2017-02-20 22:38:00 路 #4502
Brown,black ,asian>>> im tired of fucking white girls.
but yes they are still in the lead by a long shot on the score. smfh
rudebwoy 路 2017-02-20 23:07:00 路 #4503
There is no shame in not being able to game girls in a certain location, doesn't need to be justified.

I can't replicate the results I got in Europe in Toronto. It's a different culture with a different mindset.

Black guys aren't all the same, so when you say NYC isn't good for US - your speaking for yourself.

Distant Light is a special case, so no point comparing yourself to him. I've seen the girls he deals with and the man is no joke.
kosko 路 2017-02-21 04:02:00 路 #4504
(02-20-2017 10:38 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  Brown,black ,asian>>> im tired of fucking white girls.
but yes they are still in the lead by a long shot on the score. smfh

I ain't fuck a white girl in months, I don't miss them. It's been ages since I seen some pink nipples.
kirdiesel 路 2017-02-21 08:44:00 路 #4505
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Still think it's shit for black guys who are heavy into white girls.

Regardless.. I will be gaming again in NYC when I come back to visit this year at least two weekends. Won't let the negativity stop me from at least trying.
DimeBait 路 2017-02-21 11:18:00 路 #4506
(02-21-2017 04:02 AM)kosko Wrote:  
(02-20-2017 10:38 PM)Topshelfhemp Wrote:  Brown,black ,asian>>> im tired of fucking white girls.
but yes they are still in the lead by a long shot on the score. smfh

I ain't fuck a white girl in months, I don't miss them. It's been ages since I seen some pink nipples.

Unless they fall into my lap, I'm not concerned with them. I find it difficult to be myself around YT chicks anyway.
I did have one recently land in my lap via Bumble. We hung out once, I could've hit it the first night if I persisted but I've been pipelining her for long term lonely nights lol. Admittedly, she was much more pleasant on the front end as Patrice O'neal would say. Damn I wish some of the sisters I fux with were that easy going. She drove over an hour to come see me.
crudeloyalist 路 2017-02-21 11:44:00 路 #4507
(02-21-2017 08:44 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Still think it's shit for black guys who are heavy into white girls.

Monkey
the high 路 2017-02-21 13:56:00 路 #4508
No judgement. If that's what you want, go for it. But I've learned in my life that going after strictly white girls, which are the most sought after demographic on the planet, in America, is a recipe for frustration. Especially as a non-white.

The best players I've known diversify their prospects, They have their preferences sure but they're pretty much up for any type of chick. Or at the very least not just one type. Bigger pool=more opportunity.

I grew up in a predominately white college town and learned this the hard way. At this point I have next to no interest in white women.
crudeloyalist 路 2017-02-21 14:11:00 路 #4509
I sometimes wonder how black girls in the US compare to their UK counterparts in terms of quality. I can only go by what I see in American films/internet/music videos etc. I've never been to the US and have no immediate plans of visiting.

(02-21-2017 01:56 PM)the high Wrote:  white girls, which are the most sought after demographic on the planet, in America, is a recipe for frustration. Especially as a non-white.

Stuff like this doesn't affect my liking to white girls. Neither do politics or race wars. There's just something inherently arousing about being sexual with someone that bears a different skin colour.
kirdiesel 路 2017-02-21 15:33:00 路 #4510
(02-21-2017 01:56 PM)the high Wrote:  No judgement. If that's what you want, go for it. But I've learned in my life that going after strictly white girls, which are the most sought after demographic on the planet, in America, is a recipe for frustration. Especially as a non-white.

The best players I've known diversify their prospects, They have their preferences sure but they're pretty much up for any type of chick. Or at the very least not just one type. Bigger pool=more opportunity.

I grew up in a predominately white college town and learned this the hard way. At this point I have next to no interest in white women.

Sounds like you have also been through some shit yourself.

It is and can be frustrating at times but when you do win the game damnit is it sweet. I mean there is success to be had.... I have a decent amount of notches and only 1 isnt white. It is a hard pill to swallow when chicks just wont even give you a chance because you are black. Always grinding out there. I have seen white dudes easily get girls and you KNOW you got more game than him and it pisses you the fuck off. Very annoying.

This shit really is not for everyone.... You get next to no love on dating apps from them and if you do most are unattractive or bottom of the barrel bitches that white dudes dont want anyway or even worse the "brotha lovers".

More recently I decided I HAVE to take that jump and branch out as much as I can while im here. I thank YOU GUYS for that.

I would like to get a date when I am back in the US with a black girl for the first time but im like a baby learning to walk all over again at that point. Ive been removed from black women for so many years I don't even know where to begin.
rudebwoy 路 2017-02-21 15:44:00 路 #4511
Changing the subject.....

So 24 yr old hottie I met, she is sending out thirsty messages on IG.

Valentines Day - happy valentines to myself, no time to wait for a man to spoil me so I spoil myself and treat myself like the princess I know I am.

Todays Message - a rare breed with so much love to give yet always to the wrong ones.

I smell blood in the water.

Thoughts?
DimeBait 路 2017-02-21 15:57:00 路 #4512
(02-21-2017 03:44 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Changing the subject.....

So 24 yr old hottie I met, she is sending out thirsty messages on IG.

Valentines Day - happy valentines to myself, no time to wait for a man to spoil me so I spoil myself and treat myself like the princess I know I am.

Todays Message - a rare breed with so much love to give yet always to the wrong ones.

I smell blood in the water.

Thoughts?

Are these Direct Messages to you? If not, seems like typical attention whoring.
rudebwoy 路 2017-02-21 16:06:00 路 #4513
^no, typical attention whoring. lol

She also auditioned for the TV show The Bachelor.
WestIndianArchie 路 2017-02-21 16:37:00 路 #4514
Take a pic with one of your younger chicks, and send her a pic of the two of you

Message

"You'll find the right one! I'll pray for you"

WIA
Fortis 路 2017-02-21 20:03:00 路 #4515
When it comes to NYC I legitimately enjoy the environment so you can put me in just about any bar, music venue etc in NYC and I will make sure I have fun which translates to me getting laid.

The game, for me, is all about having fun. If I'm not having fun then getting laid isn't going to help shit. This isn't me telling other what to do, it's just how I think about the game at this stage of my life. I don't go out and do shit I don't want to do if it doesn't sound interesting or fun. That's why you don't find me at the club. It isn't my idea of fun and I'm not going to go there and be grumpy when I could go to a metal show or a dive bar and have fun.

I don't have any specific advice on white girls and I doubt I could say anything about white girls to Kirdiesel since he seems to like that club environment. No reason to question him endlessly about why he only likes white girls. It's a preference. So what?
Iso 路 2017-02-21 21:24:00 路 #4516
(02-21-2017 03:44 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Changing the subject.....

So 24 yr old hottie I met, she is sending out thirsty messages on IG.

Valentines Day - happy valentines to myself, no time to wait for a man to spoil me so I spoil myself and treat myself like the princess I know I am.

Todays Message - a rare breed with so much love to give yet always to the wrong ones.

I smell blood in the water.

Thoughts?

Put up a pic on your IG with an ambiguous caption talking about finding the right girl and get her hamster spinning.
Mufasa 路 2017-02-21 22:04:00 路 #4517
(02-21-2017 04:37 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Take a pic with one of your younger chicks, and send her a pic of the two of you

Message

"You'll find the right one! I'll pray for you"

WIA

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Mufasa 路 2017-02-21 22:13:00 路 #4518
Also on while the snow bunny trip is still flickering out. Everyone should check out the reviews about "Get Out" by jordan peele. Pretty entertaining take on dating white girls lol
Excelsior 路 2017-02-22 03:04:00 路 #4519
(02-13-2017 11:57 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Forgot when I said this, but the topic was basically if a chick has been cruel to you, does she ever get her comeuppance?

Is there a further on up the road for her?

"Someone's gonna hurt you like you hurt me"

"You been laughing pretty baby, someday you're gonna be crying"

Technically it happens - but true justice would be connecting punishment to crime.

And that never happens. The person who wronged you never connects their current pain with what they inflicted on you.

WIA

Actually, I've seen this happen, albeit only once.

In her youth, my mother was an attractive woman - she was in the national beauty pageant circuit, got hit on by one of Bob Marley's right hand men (Marley and his crew loved to troll around her campus back then), and generally got a lot of male attention. As an older woman now, she's really only just realizing just how extensive that attention was. As she's come to that realization and relayed her stories to me in our discussions, she mentioned the many decent men she turned down.

She was notoriously picky as a young woman, and there were many victims. One in particular stood out, however. This guy (let's call him Richard) was from the same town and beloved by my grandfather. My grandfather was highly religious and guarded his daughters like a hawk, chasing young men away at the gate on a regular basis. But Richard was always welcome. He was different. He had ambitions of being a pastor like my Grandfather, and was just a genuinely decent, kind guy. He took a liking to my mother quickly.

My mother knew what Richard was. She couldn't deny that he would, frankly, have been a near ideal husband for her. But she just couldn't warm to him, no matter how decent he was or how well he would have fit into the family. He just didn't have "it". She pretty cruelly strung him along for years before callously dropping him, and relayed to me what he eventually said after she finally ended the torture: "You're going to get what's coming to you. Somebody is going to hurt you."

According to my mother, his actual statement was right on those lines - precisely the kind of "future comeuppance" line WIA is quoting here. They didn't really speak again for a very long time after that, though they're Facebook friends now and all seems to have blown over (at least for the most part).

In the years that followed, my mother finally met the only man on the planet who seemed capable of meeting her exacting standards, married him, and had me. Of course, she paid the price for getting with the classic, highly in-demand alpha male: competition. There was another woman, and divorce followed before I was even born.

Since then, my mother has become the classic "alpha widow". She has even said the following directly to me in conversation: "I've just never found another man quite like your father." There have been relationships since and a couple lasted a while, but she's never gotten over that and built anything really solid.

The big thing she relays to me, though, is how her decisions have led her to where she is. This is where she keeps bringing up Richard, how she treated him, and what he said to her. He was right - she got what was coming to her, and she was hurt permanently (rendered an alpha widow by my father) and she's suffered emotionally since. Her pickiness and callous dismissal of so many decent men ultimately led her to near nothingness. She has me, but since her marriage she's talked about the relative loneliness and how much more connected she'd have been to family and friends if she'd maybe given Richard a real chance. She talks about having always wanted to be married with a larger family, and how that might have been possible with Richard. She talks about seeing him now on Facebook (looking good for his age and still married to a wife with a few kids, as opposed to her divorced with just one), connecting his face to all that she did to him and all that's happened since, and wondering what could have been if she'd just listened to her father and not dismissed this decent guy.

She genuinely did connect her current pain to Richard and the way she treated him. He said she'd get what was coming to her in the form of hurt, and she did. She flatly admitted that perhaps what she got with my father and the alpha-widowdom since was comeuppance for how cruelly she stringed Richard along and then dismissed him in the end for less decent men.

Sometimes, I even wonder if my own struggles with women throughout my life haven't had anything to do with some sort of cosmic justice/karma for my mother's cruelty as a young, beautiful woman. She dismissed a lot of good men not just out of pickiness, but also class (she was an elite in the country at the time and went to an elite school while socializing in elite social circles - these people had and, to some extent, still do have a tendency to thumb their noses at the vast swaths of less fortunate folk who make up the bulk of the nation's populace and they're not always polite or cordial about it). She was one of the affluent, pretty queen-bees that so many decent guys aspired to get but could, in most cases, only expect a cold, callous rejection. She was "too good" for them (either because they were too beta, not popular enough, from a poorer part of town, or all of the above) and she acted like it. So did her friend group. Richard was just the most notable of these victims and the one that stood out in her head the most as probably the best fit and most deserving among them. She still treated him like shit.

I look like my father, but am not the playboy he was - perhaps it is because of how/where I was raised, but he was more prolific than I've been so far (maybe I'll catch up, but who knows - either way, I'm a late bloomer at best). I've been more like Richard so far in my life, and I've noticed something - many of the stories of how she dismissed those men reminded me of what I went through with a couple of the women I've pursued in my life.

Perhaps comic justice sought to give my mother a son as an only child and have him endure Richard-esque struggles as a youth just to help her understand and really get a feel for what she did and how it impacted the men she did it to (and this goes right down to the rejections callously and coldly dished out due to class/lower income - that was college for me. There, I became the poor upwardly mobile kid my mother and her rich friends used to blow off, just in a different country/context). If that's the case and this was just cosmic justice trying to get its karmic revenge message across, it worked - the stories I've told her over the years have definitely helped her reflect and I think that she may not have come to the conclusions she's reached without having spent years hearing about my struggles and being forced to see herself in the women I was approaching and guys like Richard in her son who was approaching them. I've run this theory by my mother and she doesn't deny the karmic plausibility of it all.

Regardless of how it happened, the end result is that Richard (though he doesn't know it) got his "comeuppance". My mother remembers him all these years later and how her experience with him stands out both in how good he was to/for her and how unkind she was to him in the end. He said she'd hurt for the way she acted, and she has indeed endured a lot of pain since then. In talking with me, she openly connects this pain to him to this day.

So for all of the cruelly wronged men out there, buck up - you never know how much karmic justice certain women who were cruel to you in the past may be feeling and connecting to their treatment of you right now or down the road. I myself could become a "Richard" for a couple of women I've interacted with, though they probably would never tell me. It happens.
Excelsior 路 2017-02-22 03:06:00 路 #4520
(02-19-2017 09:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-19-2017 07:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  ****NYC is SHIT for black men looking for white lizards PERIOD. If you aren't a club promoter, TIGHT boys with a promoter, dating strictly Euro girls or sticking to a hipster scene (which i havent fully tested). Stay the fuck away from NYC for white lizards*****

If you are an average dude with a corporate job... not a ton of bread and want to meet white american chicks the old fashioned way in the field you are better off going somewhere else.

Why must the lizards be white american? Are you looking for a lizard or are you just trying to prove a point to those who don't like you? I understand if you don't like black but if you only get sexy European lizards, why do you care if the white American lizards are being difficult?

(02-19-2017 09:11 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Moma also brings up a good point that I forgot to mention. Why does it have to be white chicks? For some reason Korean, Persian, and Indian chicks loathe me but I don't bitch about them nonstop. Go after other kinds of chicks.

(02-20-2017 06:07 PM)the high Wrote:  With all the talent in NY, why would you exclusively target white girls?

I won't speak for Kirdiesel, but I can say that the reason I've often ended up shooting most of my shots at White American chicks has been sheer proximity and abundance.

I came up in a largely white environment as a kid and have been stuck in said environments all of my adult life (some of this background has been detailed earlier in the thread). The end result of this is not just that I came up thinking of white (and maybe Asian) girls as sort of the default, but also that they just happen to be what I'm most likely to interact with. Nearly all of my social circles (work, school, etc) are filled with them and they're at nearly all of the spots I end up at (since those are the spots where the people I know tend to go).

Thus, when White American lizards are being tough, it has had a tendency to be problematic for me overall. With those set of circumstances, it is tough NOT to exclusively target the white/asian default crowd (I'm lumping the Asian-American girls in because I've found that, for all intents and purposes, those born and raised here are not strongly distinguishable from white girls in preferences, general tendencies, and difficulty for any guy with my set of traits).

Because of the upbringing and the environment I've learned/worked in my whole life, I have to kind of go out of my way to avoid ending up environments that aren't dominated by white american girls. As I wrote a few pages back, I've slowly started to realize the importance of enhancing this effort and perhaps devoting less energy to the endless pursuit of white girls. That's been my new focus and it will remain such (especially after I get to NYC where there are more non-white American options available).

But this is not an easy feat. Breaking out of my entrenched social circles and norms (consciously avoiding following friends/coworkers to the same clubs/spots, looking for newer venues or just trying new ideas for meeting people altogether) is not easy. Finding significant concentrations of girls who are not white American and fit the profile that seems to mesh well with me can be challenging.

To put it simply, I do well with women who are foreign born, foreign raised, or both. This is my niche. They take effort to locate consistently and lock down, though I've had some success (in fact, they've been just about ALL of my success so far). This effort can be tough to exert consistently or successfully early on, so I very often just end up defaulting to the norm (coworkers/social circle going out to typical spot, just follow them, meet herds of American white girls, take L's, rinse, wash, repeat).

Because of the effort that a failure with white american girls tends to necessitate for a guy in a position like mine, I tend to understand the focus on them. Consistent ability to succeed with them yields far better outcomes for game and can make-or-break a guy in most cases and places in the USA. When you struggle with them, the game just gets much harder.

Again, I myself am working to remove my focus from them and really do believe there's great utility in other men learning to do so as well (again, see my posts from a few pages back), but I'm not going pretend it is a simply thing to do. I've found my niche and done well in it so far, but if I want to significantly increase that success I'll have to do much more work and be much more fortunate than the guy who can just focus on the standard white/asian american girl crowd and get results there.
Fortis 路 2017-02-22 04:30:00 路 #4521
I agree with you Excelsior and I think what you wrote was quite eloquent, but I wouldn't exactly take solace in the fact that "cosmic justice" will be visited upon girls who wronged you. Not telling you how to feel or anything but it just seems bitter to think that way. I think that sort of attitude coincides with bitterness.

Honestly, I don't believe most girls get their "comeuppance" and that's just how it is.

My mother was a lot like your mom: very attractive (modeled for some publications you guys know of), cognizant of her SMV and pretty ruthless about it.

However, she eventually, like your mom, found an alpha dude and married him and popped out my brothers.

They divorced and she was alone for nearly 16 years. She turned down and probably destroyed a few guys in his quest to find the best. I even witnessed a few guys meltdown over the years when she told them they didn't have what she was looking for. Some dude almost melted her business singlehandedly. lol

That said she found a guy who I suspect she will move in with and marry soon. She essentially played the game the way girls supposedly always do and still won. She had her kids, has a pretty awesome career that has borne some awesome fruit and is now with a guy she loves.

But that begs the question: should she have been punished or are we just looking at things through a moral lens that simply doesn't apply? Sure, it would be fair for her to be punished for destroying some dudes, but doesn't seem likely to happen. Did she learn anything? I don't know.

I won't front and pretend like I was not once ever bitter about the game, but it's best to leave that shit behind. It eats at you up and does do anything productive for you beyond making you introspective in the wrong way.

I also think telling guys that the girl will "get what's coming to her" just seems sorta silly. The time they spend pondering how badly that woman's life will go they could be out finding something they enjoy doing or just get out of their environment and find someplace where they don't think all the women are predatory dickheads.

On the white girl question:

I come from an environment where my dad, grand dad and uncle would joke constantly about how slutty and easy white girls were so I have always felt VERY entitled to white girls since they led by example. My dad even told me, "you're gonna like them for a while then they're gonna get weird on you and you're gonna stop chasing them."

He was totally right. But I tend to find that black dudes from more hood environments seem to do well with white girls simply because they don't give a shit. I am not hood but a large portion of my family comes from a pretty hood city so I think their attitude about white girls definitely left a mark on me til this day.

A big problem with many american white girls is that they innately see themselves as higher than black dudes and that can cause a lot of problems sadly.

I wish I had more to share on bagging white girls. I know way more about bagging asians (specifically mainland Chinese) these days.
PrimeTime32 路 2017-02-22 06:26:00 路 #4522
As a black guy who grew up banging white girls some of yall making this too complicated. The best game is to run bad boy don't give a fuck game make them laugh. Like the shit they see on TV. They wanna just fuck mostly they are not long term relationship material just have fun with them. Hit the gym because white chick's love black dudes with muscles.
WestIndianArchie 路 2017-02-22 09:10:00 路 #4523
@Prime

Are you from NYC?

WIA
kirdiesel 路 2017-02-22 09:25:00 路 #4524
(02-22-2017 03:06 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  
(02-19-2017 09:01 PM)Moma Wrote:  
(02-19-2017 07:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  ****NYC is SHIT for black men looking for white lizards PERIOD. If you aren't a club promoter, TIGHT boys with a promoter, dating strictly Euro girls or sticking to a hipster scene (which i havent fully tested). Stay the fuck away from NYC for white lizards*****

If you are an average dude with a corporate job... not a ton of bread and want to meet white american chicks the old fashioned way in the field you are better off going somewhere else.

Why must the lizards be white american? Are you looking for a lizard or are you just trying to prove a point to those who don't like you? I understand if you don't like black but if you only get sexy European lizards, why do you care if the white American lizards are being difficult?

(02-19-2017 09:11 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  Moma also brings up a good point that I forgot to mention. Why does it have to be white chicks? For some reason Korean, Persian, and Indian chicks loathe me but I don't bitch about them nonstop. Go after other kinds of chicks.

(02-20-2017 06:07 PM)the high Wrote:  With all the talent in NY, why would you exclusively target white girls?

I won't speak for Kirdiesel, but I can say that the reason I've often ended up shooting most of my shots at White American chicks has been sheer proximity and abundance.

I came up in a largely white environment as a kid and have been stuck in said environments all of my adult life (some of this background has been detailed earlier in the thread). The end result of this is not just that I came up thinking of white (and maybe Asian) girls as sort of the default, but also that they just happen to be what I'm most likely to interact with. Nearly all of my social circles (work, school, etc) are filled with them and they're at nearly all of the spots I end up at (since those are the spots where the people I know tend to go).

Thus, when White American lizards are being tough, it has had a tendency to be problematic for me overall. With those set of circumstances, it is tough NOT to exclusively target the white/asian default crowd (I'm lumping the Asian-American girls in because I've found that, for all intents and purposes, those born and raised here are not strongly distinguishable from white girls in preferences, general tendencies, and difficulty for any guy with my set of traits).

Because of the upbringing and the environment I've learned/worked in my whole life, I have to kind of go out of my way to avoid ending up environments that aren't dominated by white american girls. As I wrote a few pages back, I've slowly started to realize the importance of enhancing this effort and perhaps devoting less energy to the endless pursuit of white girls. That's been my new focus and it will remain such (especially after I get to NYC where there are more non-white American options available).

But this is not an easy feat. Breaking out of my entrenched social circles and norms (consciously avoiding following friends/coworkers to the same clubs/spots, looking for newer venues or just trying new ideas for meeting people altogether) is not easy. Finding significant concentrations of girls who are not white American and fit the profile that seems to mesh well with me can be challenging.

To put it simply, I do well with women who are foreign born, foreign raised, or both. This is my niche. They take effort to locate consistently and lock down, though I've had some success (in fact, they've been just about ALL of my success so far). This effort can be tough to exert consistently or successfully early on, so I very often just end up defaulting to the norm (coworkers/social circle going out to typical spot, just follow them, meet herds of American white girls, take L's, rinse, wash, repeat).

Because of the effort that a failure with white american girls tends to necessitate for a guy in a position like mine, I tend to understand the focus on them. Consistent ability to succeed with them yields far better outcomes for game and can make-or-break a guy in most cases and places in the USA. When you struggle with them, the game just gets much harder.

Again, I myself am working to remove my focus from them and really do believe there's great utility in other men learning to do so as well (again, see my posts from a few pages back), but I'm not going pretend it is a simply thing to do. I've found my niche and done well in it so far, but if I want to significantly increase that success I'll have to do much more work and be much more fortunate than the guy who can just focus on the standard white/asian american girl crowd and get results there.

Man you put everything I wanted to say and packaged it up nicely. This is very similar to what I come from and the challenges I face to this day.

"Because of the upbringing and the environment I've learned/worked in my whole life, I have to kind of go out of my way to avoid ending up environments that aren't dominated by white american girls."

This is what I had also struggled ALOT with in NYC. It is a bit easier here but EVERYONE has to integrate into German culture and it is looked down upon not to. So that means Latin, Asian and Black girls speak English or German and follow many German traditions. They also dont go out here in large groups like the US.. making them hard to break into. Many times they will have white german girls mixed into the group making it much easier. There is no acting black, white, latin or whatever here... Everyone should "think like a German" here and it puts everyone on the same page. There isnt too much of this subculture crap outside of the Turkish community. Makes things alot easier on you to jump into other races of girls.

"To put it simply, I do well with women who are foreign born, foreign raised, or both. This is my niche. They take effort to locate consistently and lock down, though I've had some success (in fact, they've been just about ALL of my success so far). This effort can be tough to exert consistently or successfully early on, so I very often just end up defaulting to the norm (coworkers/social circle going out to typical spot, just follow them, meet herds of American white girls, take L's, rinse, wash, repeat"

Once again I am also on the same page. This is why I only bothered with European girls.. however hard to find. I feel like you guys think when I say something I am pulling it out of my ass. I have EXTENSIVE experience with white lizards and look... heres another guy practically repeating the same experiences that I have had. Most of my notches are foreign lizards for this reason. American born and raised and I have more Euro notches than American.

I hope you kill it in NYC bro I really do!

"As a black guy who grew up banging white girls some of yall making this too complicated. The best game is to run bad boy don't give a fuck game make them laugh. Like the shit they see on TV. They wanna just fuck mostly they are not long term relationship material just have fun with them. Hit the gym because white chick's love black dudes with muscles."

There is some truth to what you are saying on how to run game on them and I find myself in Germany using that exact formula to increase my success. On the other side, I do disagree with you about them being long term relationship material. I have had 3 LTRs with white girls and 2/3 were overall positive. You have to look out for the red flags just like any girl I would say. Red flags don't seem to be specific to race. All races have them.

In closing:

Should I resurrect the black guy/white girl thread? Some of the brothers here seem to be getting annoyed by this topic.
WalkingMan 路 2017-02-22 09:25:00 路 #4525
Ive been in NYC almost a year now and Id love to know which girls i have the easiest time with. Dont really care what race.

However I am starting to notice a pattern of great reactions from educated, college attending, young black women. Particularly the ones with natural hair. I need to hit up one of those "napptural" events.

I guess I have the best cold approach results from girls who look like a girl version of me Lol

Are white girls really more likely to have a fling with a black man like me?

(not "ghetto", slim but not skinny, easy going, like to have fun, have been told i speak very well by all kinds of people)

Guess ill have to try and find out.

I just wanna narrow down and find my easy-lay "fishbowl" like roosh says.

Kirdiesel mentioned Germany and i totally forgot about visiting there. Always wanted to go. Maybe ill do either there or Japan later in the year
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