(02-19-2017 11:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

This right here. Granted the angles and ways to make it in NYC and LA are different. They are as culturally different as you get in the States even though they are in the same country.

Edit: Different personalities mesh better with different cities. Think Kirdiesal just isn't a person suited to NYC it's as simple as that. Some people can't help it. Just like how often I go to L.A. but still despise the city with every fiber of my being while other people live life large there even just on this forum.

Cultures of cities are just like the personalities of people. You're just not gonna mesh with some and that's fine. It's a matter of finding your way.

If it was a newbie I'd be calling just as much bullshit but for an established guy here with knowledge of game it's the only explanation and an understandable one at that.

Though Kirdiesal I wouldn't say it's impossible for a black dude. Not just Distant Light but other black locals of NYC also love it. The NYC meet up thread is a long one for this reason.

(02-19-2017 07:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  ****NYC is SHIT for black men looking for white lizards PERIOD. If you aren't a club promoter, TIGHT boys with a promoter, dating strictly Euro girls or sticking to a hipster scene (which i havent fully tested). Stay the fuck away from NYC for white lizards*****

If you are an average dude with a corporate job... not a ton of bread and want to meet white american chicks the old fashioned way in the field you are better off going somewhere else.

Why must the lizards be white american? Are you looking for a lizard or are you just trying to prove a point to those who don't like you? I understand if you don't like black but if you only get sexy European lizards, why do you care if the white American lizards are being difficult?

For example, I like black lizards. I don't care if they are American, West Indian, African, Afro Latina. After the initial attraction (the body and hue of skin), what keeps me around is the attitude. If they are attracted to me, I don't care what their cultural background is. I actually have a poor hit rate with lizards of my own background and score highly with West Indian lizards. I don't care cos they look exactly the same, smell the same (been with both so I know).

(02-19-2017 07:18 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  WIA and guys I appreciate your input but I really feel like I know NYC since I was born and raised there and still go back.

Archie is from NYC. If you listen to his pod, he explained that he grew up there and split his time between there and Texas so he is not just philosophising based on what he read.

What was your style in NYC for hunting? Were you doing day game or only waiting for night to fall to pounce?

Moma also brings up a good point that I forgot to mention. Why does it have to be white chicks? For some reason Korean, Persian, and Indian chicks loathe me but I don't bitch about them nonstop. Go after other kinds of chicks.

Lets not get back to the earlier days of this thread where 99% of it was people bitching about "I can't get white chicks because I'm black bullshit that went on for pages" .

That myth has been disproven over and over. Doubly so for NYC I'd say.

lol I always thought I got white girls because Im black

(02-19-2017 08:57 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 11:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

This right here. Granted the angles and ways to make it in NYC and LA are different. They are as culturally different as you get in the States even though they are in the same country.

Edit: Different personalities mesh better with different cities. Think Kirdiesal just isn't a person suited to NYC it's as simple as that. Some people can't help it. Just like how often I go to L.A. but still despise the city with every fiber of my being while other people live life large there even just on this forum.

Cultures of cities are just like the personalities of people. You're just not gonna mesh with some and that's fine. It's a matter of finding your way.

If it was a newbie I'd be calling just as much bullshit but for an established guy here with knowledge of game it's the only explanation and an understandable one at that.

Though Kirdiesal I wouldn't say it's impossible for a black dude. Not just Distant Light but other black locals of NYC also love it. The NYC meet up thread is a long one for this reason.

Guys all I am saying in NYC is shit for WHITE CHICKS for US. If you are a regular dude.. Night game, day game, online game.. NORMAL black man game.. its not gonna turn out well for you. Maybe if you are lucky you can snipe one or two and wife em up but forget about going out every weekend and racking up notches or anything like that. Again I am talking about quality white chicks too.. not brotha lovers.

Now I would have just stayed in my lane with the white European lizards and I did for MANY YEARS but I had to be a promoter or mooch off of another promoter to keep that supply flowing. I wanted to be able to go to a bar or club LIKE A NORMAL PERSON and like I do here in Germany and game and take down a lizard.

If you are looking for white girls at a normal venue....What are mostly in those places? White American girls not Euro girls!

Back in those days I did not mess around other nationalities and that was my mistake there but thats not what we are talking about here.

I questioned my game up and down until I became a promoter and I questioned it again before I came to Germany... Both LEAPS and BOUNDS away from being a normal brother in NYC.



You guys said.. but OH OH Distant Light did this that and the other.... I said he was a promoter before I knew who he even was or read any of his posts.... and it turned out that he was a promoter!! I must be psychic or something haha.

I just know had been the in trenches there for a decade and I know the grind. Im not saying its not doable but it is goddamn hard to get any normal American girls out there.. Maybe I have some PTSD or some shit.

(02-19-2017 09:25 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:57 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 11:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

This right here. Granted the angles and ways to make it in NYC and LA are different. They are as culturally different as you get in the States even though they are in the same country.

Edit: Different personalities mesh better with different cities. Think Kirdiesal just isn't a person suited to NYC it's as simple as that. Some people can't help it. Just like how often I go to L.A. but still despise the city with every fiber of my being while other people live life large there even just on this forum.

Cultures of cities are just like the personalities of people. You're just not gonna mesh with some and that's fine. It's a matter of finding your way.

If it was a newbie I'd be calling just as much bullshit but for an established guy here with knowledge of game it's the only explanation and an understandable one at that.

Though Kirdiesal I wouldn't say it's impossible for a black dude. Not just Distant Light but other black locals of NYC also love it. The NYC meet up thread is a long one for this reason.

Guys all I am saying in NYC is shit for WHITE CHICKS for US. If you are a regular dude.. Night game, day game, online game.. NORMAL black man game.. its not gonna turn out well for you. Maybe if you are lucky you can snipe one or two and wife em up but forget about going out every weekend and racking up notches or anything like that. Again I am talking about quality white chicks too.. not brotha lovers.

Now I would have just stayed in my lane with the white European lizards and I did for MANY YEARS but I had to be a promoter or mooch off of another promoter to keep that supply flowing. I wanted to be able to go to a bar or club LIKE A NORMAL PERSON and like I do here in Germany and game and take down a lizard.

If you are looking for white girls at a normal venue....What are mostly in those places? White American girls not Euro girls!

Back in those days I did not mess around other nationalities and that was my mistake there but thats not what we are talking about here.

I questioned my game up and down until I became a promoter and I questioned it again before I came to Germany... Both LEAPS and BOUNDS away from being a normal brother in NYC.

I am a night game veteran if that explains any of it.

Curious if it's worth being a promoter to get pussy.

It would have to be part time since I work full-time during the week.

(02-19-2017 09:31 PM)colblionel Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 09:25 PM)kirdiesel Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 08:57 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(02-19-2017 11:46 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  It depends on what you want, and what you do about getting it in NYC. If you want models and bottles without the investment bank money - you have to do something similar to distant light.

If it's cute hipsters, NYU students, boriquas, fresh off the boat chicks - there are angles.

Real rap I've met actual fashion models by knowing people in that business. (They look weird in person)

NYC is the ultimate for social circle game. Finding, infiltrating, growing, starting,

Honestly it's not much of a weekend bang type town, like say Vegas. In my experience, L.A.was the same. You needed to put down roots in order to get what you wanted.

WIA

This right here. Granted the angles and ways to make it in NYC and LA are different. They are as culturally different as you get in the States even though they are in the same country.

Edit: Different personalities mesh better with different cities. Think Kirdiesal just isn't a person suited to NYC it's as simple as that. Some people can't help it. Just like how often I go to L.A. but still despise the city with every fiber of my being while other people live life large there even just on this forum.

Cultures of cities are just like the personalities of people. You're just not gonna mesh with some and that's fine. It's a matter of finding your way.

If it was a newbie I'd be calling just as much bullshit but for an established guy here with knowledge of game it's the only explanation and an understandable one at that.

Though Kirdiesal I wouldn't say it's impossible for a black dude. Not just Distant Light but other black locals of NYC also love it. The NYC meet up thread is a long one for this reason.

Guys all I am saying in NYC is shit for WHITE CHICKS for US. If you are a regular dude.. Night game, day game, online game.. NORMAL black man game.. its not gonna turn out well for you. Maybe if you are lucky you can snipe one or two and wife em up but forget about going out every weekend and racking up notches or anything like that. Again I am talking about quality white chicks too.. not brotha lovers.

Now I would have just stayed in my lane with the white European lizards and I did for MANY YEARS but I had to be a promoter or mooch off of another promoter to keep that supply flowing. I wanted to be able to go to a bar or club LIKE A NORMAL PERSON and like I do here in Germany and game and take down a lizard.

If you are looking for white girls at a normal venue....What are mostly in those places? White American girls not Euro girls!

Back in those days I did not mess around other nationalities and that was my mistake there but thats not what we are talking about here.

I questioned my game up and down until I became a promoter and I questioned it again before I came to Germany... Both LEAPS and BOUNDS away from being a normal brother in NYC.

I am a night game veteran if that explains any of it.

Curious if it's worth being a promoter to get pussy.

It would have to be part time since I work full-time during the week.

It is 100% Worth it if you are wondering. I closed more girls in that time than all my years in the field. You dont even have to approach girls anymore at the peak. The problem is to get the connections and get it running. Soon as you do that and have a following and good logistics... taking candy from a baby.

I can't even replicate those numbers at my best over here in Germany if that gives you perspective. I am trying to get back there but damn that time was hard to beat.

^So are you saying your game has approved so much that you can game hotter girls in Germany.

Or, is it a case of German girls being more down for black guys in general.

In my experience, German girls have been receptive to the melanin rich guys.

I think there's nothing wrong traveling somewhere else to get laid where it's easier.

This thread and another thread provide info where you can go where it's easier to get laid.

Traveling across the world just for pussy is a lot of effort though. I don't how much vacation time everyone has.

My question is are you able to get laid at home? Would you have a sex life if you weren't able to travel easier pussy.

I'm of the opinion that if you're in a tough area where it's hard to get laid you should get a girlfriend every 3-6 months since that's typically how long relationships last.

Of course you'll have a lower notch count but you'll have consistent sex which is key and you can mess with girls on the side when occasion presents itself.

This is basically what my friends do.

The other choice is too just move to a better area.

Delete

Uber is getting run up for sexual harassment.

One of the top managers tried putting the moves on a female engineer.

"He was in an open relationship, he said, and his girlfriend was having an easy time finding new partners but he wasn’t. "

   

This weekend I banged the last girl I was with before joining the RVF
She was fucking thrilled. Went to breakfast and she wouldn't stop asking me to explain how I went through this change.
God bless the RVF

(02-19-2017 10:32 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^So are you saying your game has approved so much that you can game hotter girls in Germany.

Or, is it a case of German girls being more down for black guys in general.

In my experience, German girls have been receptive to the melanin rich guys.

Actually I have to readjust my game coming here.. So some skills that I have developed in the US have become almost useless and I have had to find other ways.

I cannot beat/nor replicate the quality I had as a promoter in NYC.

Overall comparing American White girls to German white girls German girls are MORE RESPONSIVE.... Game or no game. You can notice it already in NYC when meeting them.

I always warn that its not pussy paradise here but yes.. running the SAME level of game in both countries you will have more success in Germany than in America.

(02-19-2017 11:02 PM)colblionel Wrote:  My question is are you able to get laid at home? Would you have a sex life if you weren't able to travel easier pussy.

I'm of the opinion that if you're in a tough area where it's hard to get laid you should get a girlfriend every 3-6 months since that's typically how long relationships last.

Of course you'll have a lower notch count but you'll have consistent sex which is key and you can mess with girls on the side when occasion presents itself.

This is basically what my friends do.

The other choice is too just move to a better area.

Yes I was able to get laid in NYC.. I wrote that before. As a promoter is no problem. As a regular joe schmo... extremely difficult.

It seemed that you are new here and missed some points but I moved from the US over 6 years ago partly due to this.

I don't agree about NYC.

I think NYC is one of the easiest places to hook up if you know what you're doing. I can't really give amazing data but I've had a couple of nights where i've been trolling about and met girls who were DTF and then banged later on another day. Keep in mind that I don't live there and my logistics are shit so that Day 2 often meant trekking back to NYC and going to the girl's apartment.

That said, I do have friends in NYC (thank you rvf) and I am a bit more familiar with NYC than your average traveler. I would not write off NYC especially if you're not a stereotypical black dude. I'm pretty "normal-looking" and felt a lot more warmly received than I do in my hometown of Newark where the thug look reigns supreme.

Generally, I'd say it's hard to say how good or bad NYC is for black dudes cuz of how few black dudes on this forum live there.

Either way, I always have a blast in NYC and I'll always hype it up.

Perhaps we can get some info from Clint Barton on this.

(02-12-2017 08:47 AM)kirdiesel Wrote:  So it seems like I have weekly questions about situations that are popping up during nightgame for you guys to tear apart and analyse. As usual its descriptive. I have been mentally recording situations recently so I can see how I can improve. So here we go...

Background:

I picked up an Italian (Enza) girl about 1 year ago who was single/on the rocks with her boyfriend. We went out on a date which went well. We agreed to go out again and all was well. After the date she said she "lost her phone" I think she blocked me on whatsapp but whatever.

Situation:

Since Cologne isnt the biggest city in the world, I ended up running into her again last night at the club where I met her the first time. We hit it off and of course the interest is still there. Shes still/back with the same dude and of course its still on the rocks. We catch up on whats happened since we last saw each other and i proceed to escalate and get logistics.

Turns out shes still living 1 hour away and drove there with 2 of her friends and shes pretty much the designated driver. I stayed with her anyway and started pushing. She lets me feel up her ass and pretty much anything I want. We almost even kiss a few times. Fast forward to the time shes leaving and I see her hesitating to give me her number and wants to do Facebook. (I got the feeling she doesnt want to tip off her bf) So i agree to this and offers to drive me home but i decline since I wanted to head back into the spot to run some 4 am gutter game.

During the interaction my head was looking for posts on here about boyfriend destroyer game and could only remember "dont insult the boyfriend" just keep moving forward like he doesnt exist.

Conclusion:

What would you have done in this situation? Would you have ejected right away or do what I did?

As soon as I hear boyfriend I generally eject but I was having a rough night and my goal here was to reestablish lines of communication and see if I could convince her to meet me again privately even though she has a bf. Maybe I pushed too hard?

Not that its super important but I think its good for game talk.... Lets hear some opinions.

I'd also just like to mention this girl (with the boyfriend) has just hit me up 9 days later on Facebook. In my mind I already had written her off. Seems her boyfriend is not keeping her mind occupied.

It looks like I have no choice now but to run boyfriend destroyer game which I am COMPLETELY clueless about.

Time to search the forum I guess.

(02-20-2017 06:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I don't agree about NYC.

I think NYC is one of the easiest places to hook up if you know what you're doing. I can't really give amazing data but I've had a couple of nights where i've been trolling about and met girls who were DTF and then banged later on another day. Keep in mind that I don't live there and my logistics are shit so that Day 2 often meant trekking back to NYC and going to the girl's apartment.

That said, I do have friends in NYC (thank you rvf) and I am a bit more familiar with NYC than your average traveler. I would not write off NYC especially if you're not a stereotypical black dude. I'm pretty "normal-looking" and felt a lot more warmly received than I do in my hometown of Newark where the thug look reigns supreme.

Generally, I'd say it's hard to say how good or bad NYC is for black dudes cuz of how few black dudes on this forum live there.

Either way, I always have a blast in NYC and I'll always hype it up.

Perhaps we can get some info from Clint Barton on this.

Im sure NYC is fantastic if you are dating any nationality that comes your way. But if you are focused on the one I was ...... Not so much sir.

I got love for NYC and if i came into serious money (lotto or something) I WOULD go back. But as a normal black dude with my interests.....not compatible with that city anymore.

Interesting, I guess that just goes to show you how different people can be. I mostly hunt Asian and white, so I think we do have some overlap. I didn't find the white girls in NYC to be unfriendly, TBH. That said, I tend to find white girls to be manageable in most environments.

Why did the manager think it was okay to message on a work computer system?

Discretion, man.

Distant Light, wherever you are, bless us with an NYC promoter datasheet of sorts. I'll never be able to go out 70 nights in a row. But being able to pull 7 and higher white, Latina, and Asian chicks by going out once a week is all I want.

@Basket

Right?!??!!

But i chalk it up to no game San Francisco.
The story goes on to say that this isn't the first time, so that's why uber/the company is responsible.

That brings up a macro point, of why gold digging women don't move out to the Bay to cash in.

Except for chicks ain't logical

WIA

Regarding the Uber issue, I looked up the chick - she isn't even that attractive, and per her twitter she just got married two weeks ago.

(02-20-2017 07:53 AM)MaceTyrell Wrote:  Distant Light, wherever you are, bless us with an NYC promoter datasheet of sorts. I'll never be able to go out 70 nights in a row. But being able to pull 7 and higher white, Latina, and Asian chicks by going out once a week is all I want.

I wouldn't classify DL game as promoter game, more like DGAF game or "life of the party" game.

He also surrounds himself around models, these women tend not to party on weekends.

The problem I have found with dating models and strippers, is that they have very different schedules that conflict with the 9 to 5 joe job.

I know cats from Toronto, who spent time in NYC. They got no love in Toronto but found NYC to be a very fertile hunting ground.

I guess I'll be quiet now about DLs game. Cause I know what I read, seen and lived.

I'm not gonna pump these guys head full of hot air.

With all the talent in NY, why would you exclusively target white girls?

(02-20-2017 06:07 PM)the high Wrote:  With all the talent in NY, why would you exclusively target white girls?

I don't knock homie for the vanilla tendencies.
Sometimes the white chick is the baddest at a given venue.

I like to learn from what he's saying.

Distant Light was the life of the party
Kirdiesel used promoter game
Me, I definitely focused on infiltrating music/hipster scenes as a part of my overall lifestyle.
Fortis doesn't seem to have a particular approach.

All 4 of these overlap with each other. For the guy that hits the downtown clubs once a month - nothing that we've talked about would give him an edge.

We could break down the different patterns - see if there's something that we've done - aside from positioning ourselves in favorable markets - that can be used for a guy to go between the different spheres.

WIA