Commentary aside, my man was out there working it! I gotta get over to the UK. I wonder if my American Accent would work for me like Moma's works for him in the US.

DimeBait, it works in the UK. Exotic factor, you can even play up the stereotype, say something exciting, it galvanises the UK lizards. I knew a guy who came over from Brooklyn and was exploiting our lizards, he decimated a flat with five Spanish lizards, gave everyone of them the pipe. He also spat-roast a English housewife with an Indian friend, was talking some graphic porno shyt in her ear. He knew the allure and worked with it.

Let the winds fill your sails!

AirFare has dropped considerably. I think the UK will be my first international visit since it's basically USA & Canada like.

Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

That video. I know that area. North side of London. Far from the touristy parts of the city. Exotic factor may work better in these areas.

(12-21-2016 01:56 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  @Vinman - what is a patreon page?

Quote:Patreon is a crowd-funding platform popular with YouTube content creators, musicians, and webcomic artists. It allows artists to obtain funding from their fans or patrons, on a recurring basis, or per work of art.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patreon

(12-22-2016 05:38 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

You gave him his first, and I gave him his second. Us old school cats can spot talent early.

(12-22-2016 06:38 PM)vinman Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 05:38 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

You gave him his first, and I gave him his second. Us old school cats can spot talent early.

Right...

I realized I hadn't repped him either.

WIA

(12-22-2016 04:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  DimeBait, it works in the UK. Exotic factor, you can even play up the stereotype, say something exciting, it galvanises the UK lizards. I knew a guy who came over from Brooklyn and was exploiting our lizards, he decimated a flat with five Spanish lizards, gave everyone of them the pipe. He also spat-roast a English housewife with an Indian friend, was talking some graphic porno shyt in her ear. He knew the allure and worked with it.

Let the winds fill your sails!

I know I should be used to it after all of these years, but Moma-slang still cracks me up. I broke out laughing just reading this in Moma's voice.

Need to get my paper in order so I can get across the pond and start galvanizing these UK lizards.

(12-22-2016 04:51 PM)Moma Wrote:  DimeBait, it works in the UK. Exotic factor, you can even play up the stereotype, say something exciting, it galvanises the UK lizards. I knew a guy who came over from Brooklyn and was exploiting our lizards, he decimated a flat with five Spanish lizards, gave everyone of them the pipe. He also spat-roast a English housewife with an Indian friend, was talking some graphic porno shyt in her ear. He knew the allure and worked with it.

Let the winds fill your sails!

I find those UK accents to be Ultra sexy. Judging from the reaction I got from the UK gals I met in Berlin the feeling seems to be mutual!

I plan on hitting the UK sometime in 2017.

IMO karma is best described in the phrase, "The thief thinks everyone else is a thief."

In other words, your actions shape your views.

(12-22-2016 06:38 PM)vinman Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 05:38 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

You gave him his first, and I gave him his second. Us old school cats can spot talent early.

Game recognizes game.

(12-19-2016 04:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So, lemme ask the collective

You meet a girl at 11:10 pm
She's feeling you.

What do you do?

WIA

-Do a shot.
-Venue change to a place where I know the door man.
-Dance.
-Do a shot.
-"do you like cake? I have some at my place. Lets go."
-Seal the deal.

Enjoying the thread, guys.

Yeah, fuck. I just hit my ground zero of dating/game. Lol, there needs to be an end of year report but there has been a substantial loss this year. Taking a lot of Ls with the ladies.

A humbled TDK

(12-23-2016 10:43 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 04:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So, lemme ask the collective

You meet a girl at 11:10 pm
She's feeling you.

What do you do?

WIA

-Do a shot.
-Venue change to a place where I know the door man.
-Dance.
-Do a shot.
-"do you like cake? I have some at my place. Lets go."
-Seal the deal.

How many tries do you make before you abort the mission? I have done that before with some lizards and they say: "I'm not going back to your place, I barely know you"
I would say: "We are all strangers up until a certain point" or I would 're-introduce' myself. If she still says no, I won't come back to yours..do you lot have an additional rebuttal or do you pull the plug?

Would love to know, these are the finer details in closing the deal, I reckon.

(12-23-2016 11:17 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  Enjoying the thread, guys.

Yeah, fuck. I just hit my ground zero of dating/game. Lol, there needs to be an end of year report but there has been a substantial loss this year. Taking a lot of Ls with the ladies.

A humbled TDK

Don't watch dat. The averages play out. Kobe's last game was 60 points but he took 50 shots to get those buckets.
In case, you lot missed it, I believe I mentioned in one of our podcasts that one night, I opened 30 lizards and I got 29 no's.

Glossary:

Don't watch dat = Don't worry.

(12-23-2016 10:43 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 04:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So, lemme ask the collective

You meet a girl at 11:10 pm
She's feeling you.

What do you do?

WIA

-Do a shot.
-Venue change to a place where I know the door man.
-Dance.
-Do a shot.
-"do you like cake? I have some at my place. Lets go."
-Seal the deal.

I would leave out the "lets go". Let her assume that's you trying to get her back to your crib. When she hits you with the "ugh, i don't even know you though or I'm not going to have sex with you" , flip it on her. "What are you talking about, I'm talking about my favourite cake and you're thinking about my dick? I'm disappointed in you _________" , with a smirk. Finish it off with a "Besides, you might take my kidneys in the morning" with a smirk. Put her on the defensive. Create some uncertainty for the almighty hamster. If she starts back pedalling you know you've got her going. Make her qualify her self for a 5 mins, why she's not a killer, wants your kidneys, not a pro (in a joking way), then make your exit suggesting she can come with you if she takes your safety seriously. Go from buyer to seller essentially.

There is a reason why they call it game.

The game is not easy and not in your favour.

Taking losses is part of the game.

Most guys aren't built for the game, mentally it beats them down.

Life is a game.

(12-23-2016 11:30 AM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-23-2016 10:43 AM)Mufasa Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 04:49 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  So, lemme ask the collective

You meet a girl at 11:10 pm
She's feeling you.

What do you do?

WIA

-Do a shot.
-Venue change to a place where I know the door man.
-Dance.
-Do a shot.
-"do you like cake? I have some at my place. Lets go."
-Seal the deal.

How many tries do you make before you abort the mission? I have done that before with some lizards and they say: "I'm not going back to your place, I barely know you"
I would say: "We are all strangers up until a certain point" or I would 're-introduce' myself. If she still says no, I won't come back to yours..do you lot have an additional rebuttal or do you pull the plug?

Would love to know, these are the finer details in closing the deal, I reckon.

The premise is that she's feeling you.

The exercise is about when you feel comfortable enough to suggest that you "get out of here".

One of the things about "efficient" game is that as you get better at talking to chicks - you see the non-verbal behavioral cues - so you escalate smoothly.

For me, this is one of those under-explored and contradictory parts of the game.

When you verbalize something - it becomes REAL.

And these chicks are constantly pushing for verbalization.

1) You can act like a boyfriend and love a chick to death, but if you don't say
"you're my girlfriend, that's my girlfriend, I love you" - NONE OF IT MATTERS.
(And often times, when you finally do say it out loud, a week later she is not only over it, she resents you for it. lol)

2_ At the same time, if you tell a chick that is ready to fuck that
HEY, WE'RE ABOUT TO FUCK

She hears that and shuts down.

So in terms of practical pulling, most guys have a style that makes what is about to go down very clear, without putting it into words.

What gets a chick down to fuck is either


-strategy 1 - striking when the iron is hot - like you're at the spot, she's feeling you, she's grinding on you in a dark corner, in a crowded spot, it's possible to unzip, and pull up her skirt and then lecture her on what the bible says about evil and wicked men. - basically sex w/o all the comfort/trust she normally needs. And she gets off on that sort of thing - because there's a mental/social component to it. Lot of these bitches want to feel like they're getting away with something.

- strategy 2 - a good amount of time spent with the chick - meet her, meet her friends, talk to other people, take her to do different places, make sure to pull back before she resists - that builds a shit load of trust and non-verbal communication - so the bang is easier. Give her some plausible deniability about where you're going and what you're doing (oh we're just gonna have one last drink, maybe make out like we were in high school, but then i'm gonna put you in an uber because I'm a Good Christian Man and I don't want *YOU* to take off my path to Jesus)

So this scenario is that
- it's early in the night
- you're starting to see the signs

What do you do?

Do you cut the trust build/screen and get some isolation where shit can go down? Basically conform to her natural/primal instincts.

Or do you do the solid game, make sure the bitch isn't psycho, and ease her into the sex on your schedule?

And even before you make this decision, speedy or steady - what signs do you see in the chick that let you go one way or the other.

I know I have gone too quickly, and I have gone too slowly.
And when the quick ends up in a sermon, sometimes she doesn't come back to church, because of how quickly she got proselytized.

If the journey to Jah was slow, then she becomes too attached. Like she's finally met her soul mate.

....And there's a third tier of how freaky/loose she gets based on how she feels about you, and what sort of mood you put her in.

She can have good physical sex (tension release)
Sex with a great man (omg this guy is the best, i want his babies, i'll do anything for him)
Sex with a bastard (this guy makes me love being a whore, he gets me to do shit that i've always wanted to do, but was too scared to do)

WIA

(12-22-2016 01:18 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(12-21-2016 05:06 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  That would be interesting...the top 10 trends or lessons learned in 2016
when it comes to Black Man Game Options....

What trends have you seen so far? I have found my niche and have hardly had the need to come out of my groove so I just use old principles such as cutting the rope when nonsense pops up. I had to disconnect a lizard who was complaining about appetisers. I made a judgement call and I am happy with it. On the other hand, I went for the appetiser route on another lizard and it paid off so it's more of a feel thing at times.

My bottom line on appetisers is if I feel the lizard is offering zero mental stimuli to me, I will try and go for broke early (the lay play). I spoke to Pitt recently and he said paying for meals will actually kill the punani option in the UK. Something simpish about offering to cover it all..in London, anyway.

I have a few lessons I learned from 2016
and a few predictions for 2017.

Lessons Learned from 2016:
1. Hustle is everything. Traveling to Ukraine I realized that
I need to turn up the intensity and make time to approach more girls.

2. Online game for black men needs to be fixed. Despite the
massive opportunities for online dating...it can be difficult for black men
to succeed with mainstream dating apps.

3.Whatsapp is a powerhouse. A friend of mine has over 1000 Whatsapp contacts.
Her phone practically buzzes all day long with Thirsties who want to buy her presents.

4. People place a high value on keeping up appearances. In Kiev, girls would absolutely
refuse to dance with me on the dance floor in front of everyone. However they had no problems
walking outside to exchange numbers in private with me.

5. Make it easier for girls to hook up with you. It's only when you cold approach that you need to do
the familiar build trust and comfort and escalate dance that we all know. Why not do that on a continuing basis
with a group of girls who already know you. I feel the traditional "one-on-one" approach is becoming too slow
and time consuming.

How many women want to get laid on a Friday night? Who do they already know who can give them what they need??...
you want to be the guy on speed dial who gets the call "can you come over?" from a growing selection of women
who already know you in a social way...no more added trust and comfort needed...

(12-22-2016 05:38 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

Thanks for the love fam, much appreciated.

(12-23-2016 04:54 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  I have a few lessons I learned from 2016
and a few predictions for 2017.

Lessons Learned from 2016:
1. Hustle is everything. Traveling to Ukraine I realized that
I need to turn up the intensity and make time to approach more girls.

2. Online game for black men needs to be fixed. Despite the
massive opportunities for online dating...it can be difficult for black men
to succeed with mainstream dating apps.

3.Whatsapp is a powerhouse. A friend of mine has over 1000 Whatsapp contacts.
Her phone practically buzzes all day long with Thirsties who want to buy her presents.

4. People place a high value on keeping up appearances. In Kiev, girls would absolutely
refuse to dance with me on the dance floor in front of everyone. However they had no problems
walking outside to exchange numbers in private with me.

5. Make it easier for girls to hook up with you. It's only when you cold approach that you need to do
the familiar build trust and comfort and escalate dance that we all know. Why not do that on a continuing basis
with a group of girls who already know you. I feel the traditional "one-on-one" approach is becoming too slow
and time consuming.

How many women want to get laid on a Friday night? Who do they already know who can give them what they need??...
you want to be the guy on speed dial who gets the call "can you come over?" from a growing selection of women
who already know you in a social way...no more added trust and comfort needed...

I couldn't agree more with 1,2,3 & 5.

As for #4, I'm sure being overseas limits your options, but it's the main reason I stick with my own kind. Bishes all of the world fantasize about BBC, (it's the most watched porn in the world) yet pretend to be socially stigmatized by Black Cats. Why give your dick & attention away for free to undeserving bishes like this?

Personally, I'd save online Dating for the YT bishes who want a easy access to BBC, let them hit you up!
I was on POF nearly 10 years ago and was killing it. Now online dating is an average chicks paradise filled with thirsty ass lazy men.

For 2017, I'm completely ceasing the DM approaches. When you think about it, it's actually quite simpish. I'm all about personal approaches now.

(12-23-2016 06:10 PM)DimeBait Wrote:  

(12-22-2016 05:38 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Ok guys, it is the season for giving.

DimeBait has dropped some great posts and deserves a few rep points at least.

Thanks for the love fam, much appreciated.

(12-23-2016 04:54 PM)Apollo21 Wrote:  I have a few lessons I learned from 2016
and a few predictions for 2017.

Lessons Learned from 2016:
1. Hustle is everything. Traveling to Ukraine I realized that
I need to turn up the intensity and make time to approach more girls.

2. Online game for black men needs to be fixed. Despite the
massive opportunities for online dating...it can be difficult for black men
to succeed with mainstream dating apps.

3.Whatsapp is a powerhouse. A friend of mine has over 1000 Whatsapp contacts.
Her phone practically buzzes all day long with Thirsties who want to buy her presents.

4. People place a high value on keeping up appearances. In Kiev, girls would absolutely
refuse to dance with me on the dance floor in front of everyone. However they had no problems
walking outside to exchange numbers in private with me.

5. Make it easier for girls to hook up with you. It's only when you cold approach that you need to do
the familiar build trust and comfort and escalate dance that we all know. Why not do that on a continuing basis
with a group of girls who already know you. I feel the traditional "one-on-one" approach is becoming too slow
and time consuming.

How many women want to get laid on a Friday night? Who do they already know who can give them what they need??...
you want to be the guy on speed dial who gets the call "can you come over?" from a growing selection of women
who already know you in a social way...no more added trust and comfort needed...

I couldn't agree more with 1,2,3 & 5.

As for #4, I'm sure being overseas limits your options, but it's the main reason I stick with my own kind. Bishes all of the world fantasize about BBC, (it's the most watched porn in the world) yet pretend to be socially stigmatized by Black Cats. Why give your dick & attention away for free to undeserving bishes like this?

Personally, I'd save online Dating for the YT bishes who want a easy access to BBC, let them hit you up!
I was on POF nearly 10 years ago and was killing it. Now online dating is an average chicks paradise filled with thirsty ass lazy men.

For 2017, I'm completely ceasing the DM approaches. When you think about it, it's actually quite simpish. I'm all about personal approaches now.

Being overseas limits your options? This is news to me.

. . . with an abundance of Black women in European countries.

I need to stop perusing these other threads. It hurts my heart.

2016
- lost 60 lbs. No change in my game, cause I don't lean in that way. But faster mental processing. More energy all around

- some fitness pr's, but Rudebwoy is in this post, don't want to embarrass myself

- need to move. Lot of these chicks i rock with would be wifey candidates if I knew I wanted to stay on the east coast.

- made money online, in a programming class right now. Location independent is the goal for 2016.
- contract still going long, no travel

2017
- tentative plans with a game aware homie for Latin America. Might have to take a business L to get a personal W
- location independence using new tech skills
- pull up goals = my age

Book still being written.

WIA

(12-26-2016 07:32 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  - pull up goals = my age

WIA