Post: #1426

Not into Asian girls...never had yellow fever....but Japanese grills probably have very very tight pussy

Post: #1427

I can see why White American guys love that tight pussy and submissive Asian female attitude. Nice break from entitled White American sluts

Post: #1428

Yes they really do have these sections. Typically just a few tables and couches roped off with a female only sign and someone watching the area. Big cockblock.

They are not usually separate bars, so girls still have to buy drinks at a bar.

I can't remember if this has been said here, but I think an effective nighttime strategy especially in Tokyo is to just walk all around Roppongi at night and run street game.

It's a pure brute force, numbers strategy. But if you are decent looking and can handle a bunch of rejections it should work out.

Post: #1429

I have cavemanned chicks into makeouts in roppongi. It they always have friends nearby or are not the way to meet them. Might work if you have a pad right there near the almond. It's funny to watch chicks cry for help and the Nigerians ignore it while I cavemanned them lol. Did make me feel creepy though.

Post: #1430

(12-20-2016 09:37 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  I have cavemanned chicks into makeouts in roppongi. It they always have friends nearby or are not the way to meet them. Might work if you have a pad right there near the almond. It's funny to watch chicks cry for help and the Nigerians ignore it while I cavemanned them lol. Did make me feel creepy though.

Post: #1431

Lol at the right pussy thing. More like a small pussy that can't take your whole cock without discomfort. One of the nicest things about Japanese puss is their bush isn't an afro but normal hair and a lot are now trimming and shaving.

Post: #1432

"Funny to see chicks scream for help?" It sounds like this particular member either likes to brag about scaring or hurting girls, or has intentionally done so. Mods?

Post: #1433

Hey guys, I just arrived in Tokyo and will be here a few weeks. In general I have a game plan of heading to roppongi and shibuya to game. I speak pretty decent japanese. If you guys have any recommendations on clubs, bars or just meeting up let me know.

Thanks

Post: #1434

Thanks for 3 day ban. Cry for help was maybe a bad choice of words and more as a joke. More like complain that I didn't follow through and buy them expensive drinks I insinuated in the future. Then have them complain to Nigerians it's not fair (As if they were bouncers lol) and everyone have laugh and be like so what who cares? Still felt creepy bc it was on the street in public and not in $30 V2 which I'm glad closed bc it was overhyped. I'd elaborate but don't feel like getting tattled on if it displeases the court.

Post: #1435

tokyo peeps,

do you see any indian-japanese pairings..i have caught a bad dose of yellow fever(more specifically mongolian chicks fever).

i am planning a visit in august.

also learning japanese,as the relationships between India and Japan is on a upswing.

Arigato gosaimus..

Post: #1436

If you're trying to learn Japanese i recommend an audible membership. Then download innovative language survival guide to Japanese. They also have 3 other levels of courses.

With audible you get an audio digest of either New York Times or wall st journal which is helpful while traveling. Can listen on your commute or workout. Honestly had to stop in Runup to election bc it was too much nonsense but they cover the important headlines, sections, editorials, sports.

They also have Chinese and other languages. You can get through the survival guide in a hour and be speaking enough Japanese to introduce yourself, ask for stuff, give thanks, etc.

That will get you a big sagoyyyyy nay (sp?) from jgirls and works as a great opener since they're almost all interested in language exchange. Reading and writing is another matter but people swear learning hiragana is easy. kanji is like Chinese so thousands of characters. But I've been told it's almost the same meaning for both languages so once you learn it you're mostly literate in both I guess.

I just bought some guidebooks for India. Planning a trip there. Seems everyone speaks English? Had no idea Indians are into Japanese. I thought they liked Pizza Hut over there. Like isn't it the number one franchise in India?

I read a sobering article that some Indian thugs figured out a language scam on Japanese tourists. They learned enough japanese to offer tour guide service to solo travelers. The Japanese person is used to zero crime. It's unfathomable to them that someone who speaks Japanese would take advantage of them. These guys were taking people to atms and forcing them to withdraw the max limit. Sometimes keeping them overnight to do it again. The one that made international headlines was the japanese tourist who got kept for 3 days, gang raped, and they emptied her account. Terrible. Don't do that.

Post: #1437

I want to thank the mods for intervening.

(12-25-2016 10:16 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  Thanks for 3 day ban. Cry for help was maybe a bad choice of words and more as a joke. More like complain that I didn't follow through and buy them expensive drinks I insinuated in the future. Then have them complain to Nigerians it's not fair (As if they were bouncers lol) and everyone have laugh and be like so what who cares? Still felt creepy bc it was on the street in public and not in $30 V2 which I'm glad closed bc it was overhyped. I'd elaborate but don't feel like getting tattled on if it displeases the court.

Notice that this is completely something else from your initial post. Your previous post read:

"I have cavemanned chicks into makeouts in roppongi. (...) It's funny to watch chicks cry for help and the Nigerians ignore it while I cavemanned them lol."

Wether this is what you did or a bad joke, remarks like this are absolutely disgusting.

1. Cavemanning, of course, is escalating roughly in the hope that token resistance disappears. It's not ment to force yourself on someone who shows solid resistance and doesn't want to sleep with you, yet this is wat you wrote about.

2. If you did escalate (= touching someone) to the point that girls are "crying for help", this is not cavemanning anymore. It's sexual assault. That distinction has to be made. to prevents accidents. Cavemanning = escalating to push through token resistance, sexual assault = ignoring "no" and crying for help while escalating. The former is a dated game tactic, the latter makes you an asshole abusing his strength.

3. Cavemanning is hopelessly ineffective. If you get token resistance, you have not gamed her sufficiently. It is a technique that should be used with girls who enjoy dominance play and it's part of their fantasy, but only very sparsely. It should never be used when a girl is "on the fence", as a substitute for solid game. If you want solid bangs, day 2's and girlfriends that is.

I know this is probably a controversial point for some, but people with lay counts above 100 in Europe know what I'm talking about.

4. There are 16- to 22-year olds on this forum, as well as virgins or others with no game. They are thirsty, committed to change and can not always tell the difference between your braggadocio and a recommended strategy. For those newbies: his post is not good game. OK game never involves a solid "no" or crying for help, and good game doesn't involve token resistance because a girl will have her hands in your pants before you even begin to escalate.

I don't care about you personally. I care about the naive newbie who takes your remarks as advice, and damages the reputation of men and the well-being of girls in the process.

5. Every time any idiot pushes beyond a girls limits, it wil take the next RVF member longer to bed her. Trust and comfort building will take longer. These girls get scared of intimacy, sex and men. I can't think of something that's more counterproductive. It's in our best interest to promote solid game only.

Also, don't do something to someone else you wouldn't want to see happen to yourself. Or your sister or mother.

I'm not going to discuss your second post, because it had nothing to do with the first. Thanks mods, for intervening.

Post: #1438

I have seen a few Indian players in Japan. They have good game, and speak Japanese fluently. They seem to be successful. However, most others I have seen are not getting any action.

(12-25-2016 10:40 AM)Eklavya Wrote:  do you see any indian-japanese pairings..i have caught a bad dose of yellow fever(more specifically mongolian chicks fever).


also learning japanese,as the relationships between India and Japan is on a upswing.

Post: #1439

"because a girl will have her hands in your pants before you even begin to escalate."

Eh would disagree with that. But maybe not as solid at game as you ;p

Sometimes you have to make the move even if its not "the perfect time"

Example: most Korean girls not gonna jump you first. (But maybe im not as cool as i think)
Had a girl in my room once who wouldnt stfu so i pinned her against the wall, made out, fingered, banged. Soon after she is calling me "honey" (in Korean), talking about our future, etc
- but need to know when (from experience). No assault like you said

Post: #1440

OK some misinformation here that I need to correct. ("Someone is wrong on the internet!!!!!!!!!11!!1!" )

Western game is NOT Japanese game.

Further, Western sexual assault is not Japanese sexual assault. In fact, the Japanese think (with some justification) that the Americans are absolutely insane on this topic.

(12-26-2016 06:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  I want to thank the mods for intervening.

(12-25-2016 10:16 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  Thanks for 3 day ban. Cry for help was maybe a bad choice of words and more as a joke. More like complain that I didn't follow through and buy them expensive drinks I insinuated in the future. Then have them complain to Nigerians it's not fair (As if they were bouncers lol) and everyone have laugh and be like so what who cares? Still felt creepy bc it was on the street in public and not in $30 V2 which I'm glad closed bc it was overhyped. I'd elaborate but don't feel like getting tattled on if it displeases the court.

Notice that this is completely something else from your initial post. Your previous post read:

"I have cavemanned chicks into makeouts in roppongi. (...) It's funny to watch chicks cry for help and the Nigerians ignore it while I cavemanned them lol."

Wether this is what you did or a bad joke, remarks like this are absolutely disgusting.

This much I agree with. What Travel Musuems did was not cavemanning and is totally unacceptable. If girls are calling out for help then you are doing something very wrong indeed. This is a guy whose game is so piss poor that he struggles to shore working girls in Cambodia. What follows is not a defence of him.

(12-26-2016 06:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  3. Cavemanning is hopelessly ineffective. If you get token resistance, you have not gamed her sufficiently. It is a technique that should be used with girls who enjoy dominance play and it's part of their fantasy, but only very sparsely. It should never be used when a girl is "on the fence", as a substitute for solid game. If you want solid bangs, day 2's and girlfriends that is.

Wrong and wrong. In Japan, cavemanning is absolutely ESSENTIAL for closing girls. Japanese girls will force you to do this. It's a test.

Japanese girls will not show you their feelings first.
Japanese girls will not kiss you first.
Japanese girls will not grab your dick.
Japanese girls will not escalate.

On the face of things, Japanese girls are extremely passive. As a man, you therefore need to be aggressive when it comes to actually banging them.

(12-26-2016 06:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  I know this is probably a controversial point for some, but people with lay counts above 100 in Europe know what I'm talking about.

Not so much controversial as you're talking about the wrong part of the world.

(12-26-2016 06:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  4. There are 16- to 22-year olds on this forum, as well as virgins or others with no game. They are thirsty, committed to change and can not always tell the difference between your braggadocio and a recommended strategy. For those newbies: his post is not good game. OK game never involves a solid "no" or crying for help, and good game doesn't involve token resistance because a girl will have her hands in your pants before you even begin to escalate.

"No" in Japan often means yes.

Ever watched Japanese porn?

"Yada" (No) and "Yamete" (Stop) are extremely normal utterances from Japanese girls when they are getting turned on. It's a dominance/submission thing that is entrenched in Japanese sexuality and one of the many reasons why we love Japanese women.

So what is a true "No" from Japanese women? Well it depends on the context, but the golden rule is to look for a physical no rather than a verbal one.

A girl who says "stop" AND pushes you away is telling you to back off. "No" on its own? Keep going.

I should also add that a large % of Japanese girls require alcohol in their system before giving it up. While I never rely on the tactic of making girls drink to excess (drunk girls are a turnoff to me), Japanese men do this and they do it often. It's not considered wrong or illegal. You will see it any night of the week.

Japanese common sense is that if...
1) She's drinking

and

2) She's gone home with you

...then she is fair game (within reason and according to the context of course).

(12-26-2016 06:27 AM)asdfk Wrote:  5. Every time any idiot pushes beyond a girls limits, it wil take the next RVF member longer to bed her. Trust and comfort building will take longer. These girls get scared of intimacy, sex and men. I can't think of something that's more counterproductive. It's in our best interest to promote solid game only.

Your post above, in what is a Japan thread, might actually have led to guys stopping their escalation and losing lays in Japan. Nothing personal but you are the "newbie" in this thread my friend.

Post: #1441

What if you don't drink? Usually I don't drink = girl don't drink either. So in that case they would not be willing to drop pants.

Post: #1442

I've had FBs in Japan who I had to "pretend rape" EVERY SINGLE TIME even after we had been banging for months. Kept on saying no, pushing me off, etc. Do not underestimate Japanese girls desire to submit and attraction to masochism. At the same time, young and newbie guys reading this...show some emotional intelligence and don't push over the limit with a new girl.

Post: #1443

Joel,

Won't lie. Not drinking will hurt your bang quantity. I did a year off alcohol in 2014 and definitely noticed that converting dates to bangs was trickier.

Actually though, some chicks would still drink despite me not doing so. They literally need a couple to loosen up and open their legs. Obviously, I wasn't pushing it but they insisted.

Upside was that I feel like I dated higher quality women. Less club sluts. And one in particular was a sweet, gorgeous 23 year old virgin who was probably impressed with my "majime" attributes (go figure - a lot of Japanese men are drunks). Hands down one of the nicest, most feminine women I've ever had the pleasure of dating. And very pretty too.

Post: #1444

Bushido, Thanks for your reply.
In my post I wrote that an exception can be made in the case of girls who are turned on by being dominated. This is exactly what you are writing about. And if you are successful doing this, more power to you.

You are more advanced then me with Japanese girls, and my comments don't apply to you.

However, I can attest that inducing escalation is more effective and idiot-proof then cavemanning. It safe for newbies, but it also improves quality. The tone of the relationship completely changes when it doesn't rely on male dominance, but female submission by her own free will instead. I take them out of their rape fantasies and put them in a position where they have to work for it, which prevents problems and saves time in the long run. In my limited time inJapan. I felt it worked well.

Thanks for your reply.

Post: #1445

Bushido had an amazing write up about some of the nuances between Japanese hookup culture and western.

For your "limited time in Japan" remark, is it safe to assume you don't speak Japanese? Assuming that's true I'm going to also assume you were gaming the girls who spoke English to a degree enough where they have been fairly influenced by western culture. Which is fairly different from picking up a girl who would generally be unavailable to dudes in Japan who can't speak the language at all or didn't have some sort of 'in' be it through money/work/ or friends.

For cavemanning, I can't help but shake the idea that your idea of it is rather violent and extreme. When in reality it's simply pushing past what is considered appropriate in the west but expected in the east.

A very common phrase in Japan being, 嫌よ嫌よも好きのうち, which basically means no means yes.

Post: #1446

Did everyone from Japan check out this Forum, or is there a new Topic where the discussion keeps going?

Post: #1447

Bushido, I want to apologize for my comments last year. You were spot on, and my experience was and is way to limited to provide advice of substance.

I've started learning Japanese and will do my best to get some more experience across this beautiful country.

Are there any write-ups on Japanese culture (and the difference with the west) you can recommend?

Post: #1448

To all the more experienced Japan veterans:

What would be the best site to rent affordable 1 Bedroom Apartments in 2nd tier cities (Fukuoka) for a period of up to 6 months?
Checked out some websites, but at the end found AirBnB the most promising one.

Although I lived already for 6 months in Japan, my Japanese is very poor.

Post: #1449

Went to Tokyo for 2 weeks, as a 29 year old Asian with very basic game and barely adequate Japanese (when I am on I might be intermediate but it is very inconsistent). I didn't pull, but was able to pull a chick from an International Party to outside a love hotel in Shibuya (she refused and I couldn't think of anything to say). I should have took her to a bar first to loosen her up but I was surprised when she followed me up Dogenzaka without objections.

From the Japanese girls I have went on dates with, they were all incredibly busy and only have maybe an hour or 2 before they have to work or some other bs. Is there anything that can be done to convert a short date into a lay?

Post: #1450

(12-28-2016 06:34 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  Bushido had an amazing write up about some of the nuances between Japanese hookup culture and western.

For your "limited time in Japan" remark, is it safe to assume you don't speak Japanese? Assuming that's true I'm going to also assume you were gaming the girls who spoke English to a degree enough where they have been fairly influenced by western culture. Which is fairly different from picking up a girl who would generally be unavailable to dudes in Japan who can't speak the language at all or didn't have some sort of 'in' be it through money/work/ or friends.

For cavemanning, I can't help but shake the idea that your idea of it is rather violent and extreme. When in reality it's simply pushing past what is considered appropriate in the west but expected in the east.

A very common phrase in Japan being, 嫌よ嫌よも好きのうち, which basically means no means yes.

Can confirm.

Very first Japanese girl I ever banged (Which incidentally was the very first chick I banged), we were making out in a hotel bed and I moved to take her pants off, and she started squirming and saying "No!" I immediately stopped, visions of her calling the police and telling them I raped her dancing in my head. I took my hands off her and sat up on the bed a few feet away. She was utterly shocked by this. I don't think I could've surprised her more if I'd brought a live zebra from out of the bathroom and started humping it.

"Why did you stop?" she asked.
"Because you told me to," I said.

There was a solid minute or so of complete confusion on both our parts. Neither of us could understand what the other person why the other person was behaving the way they were at all.

Of course once I got it through my dumb head that perhaps her "no" was not entirely sincere, we got on with things, so it wasn't a dealbreaker. But after many years of dealing with the Japanese and other foreign cultures, I will always remember that moment as the single biggest disconnect, when I simply was unable to process what the person next to me was thinking.