(09-26-2016 03:26 PM)Rudeman Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 02:42 PM)Half Century Wrote:  How's Tinder for 40+ dudes?

Pretty bad in my experience as a 40 something guy. The girls I match with for the most part aren't quality enough for me to put in effort for trying to get them in bed. Like I wouldn't want to take them out on a date much less 3 for the chance to bang them. I might bang them if I met them at a bar and they just wanted to go home with me. Might. Many of them I wouldn't want to get naked with at all.

(if you are wondering why I match with them, it's because I barely look and just swipe right)

Many of them have baggage and the vast majority are against hooking up. They are just too lazy to put the effort into a dating website even though they are looking for a LTR.

A typical match is a 38 year old women who is just plain, ugly or past her prime and has a couple of kids and a job and boring social life and isn't DTF.

If you are serious about it and look decently young it would be worth the effort to make an account and lie about your age.

Decent place to practice your text game though.

Sort of like OKCupid where I set my age 10 years lower and still got matched with divorced or single mothers who look 10 years older than my actual age. In fact, I just viewed OKCupid today, and may need Pepto Bismal because most of the women from 30 to 40 look menopausal and bloated. One chick about 28's inbox was full, so the site asked for $1 to message the single mother, who was actually hot and local....

I suppose this app might work in places like Eastern Europe? Wishful thinking?

I heard about some dude who is over 50 and uses Tinder by showing off his pecs and abs.

Restarted Tinder 4 days ago, got about 47 matches in that time, all around the 6 - 8 range. The interesting thing is, the vast majority (all bar 4, maybe) swiped me prior to vice versa, i.e. matched when I swiped them.

I don't know if it takes a while for the opposite to happen. Yes, after 3 years, I'm still wondering about the mechanics of Tinder.

Despite netting higher quality, I have a feeling that a fair few 8's and 9's are still swiping left on me (albeit at the same frequency as 6's, 7's, and below); I don't know, but it would be good to aim for that.

Interestingly, unlike my past 2 Tinder incarnations, I'm not matching with girls I've Super Liked nearly as often.

So far, I've gotten 4 number closes with 3 dates either set up or confirmed from those, and moving towards a few more.

That conversion rate might seem about standard with all of yours, but I'm trying to close that gap. I still have a fair few matches not responding at all. One of them matched me on Happn a week before and never responded!

What have you guys done when your options are great enough from Tinder that you'd have more girls lined up than days of the week? Assuming the bang will be likely, I'm wondering how feasible it'll be to see more than one a day (going for the zero-date bang)

I've lost quite a lot of girls due to joking via text or on Tinder. The last one I told her hair was like Medusa.

This is a bit out there, but does anyone want to set up a skype group to share/analyse exchanges they've had on tinder?

Thing is, I have a lot of chats, some go good, some go bad, but I don't really have any feedback outside of my own, which makes it hard to improve your chat game. Fwiw I've been on like 10-15 dates this year so I have a fair amount of experience.

If you're interested, PM me.

(10-25-2016 07:27 AM)MFSEX Wrote:  This is a bit out there, but does anyone want to set up a skype group to share/analyse exchanges they've had on tinder?

Thing is, I have a lot of chats, some go good, some go bad, but I don't really have any feedback outside of my own, which makes it hard to improve your chat game. Fwiw I've been on like 10-15 dates this year so I have a fair amount of experience.

If you're interested, PM me.

I'm definitely interested, I'd brought up that idea on this thread some time ago, maybe last year, but it never took off.

My results are a bit like yours, it's kind of like sports where you have your good days and bad days.

Even over the past 10 days or so, when I'd restarted my account, while I've gotten 75 matches since — my highest ever match rate — I'm still having quite a lot of them fizzle out. This is probably in proportion to my previous tinder incarnations, but why not close the gap as much as I can?

It doesn't sound like much, but the law of averages says that I'd show up with lots of successful convos, which I have. I think it's all about practise makes perfect. I'll try to share the ones that got me the bang.

I'm noticing that my matches are a bit more eager to restart, or respond to restart messages are a few days. Maybe due to better photos.

Can anyone help me out with this?

I matched with a German-Russian ex-model on Thursday whom I super-liked maybe a week before. Easily a HB8.5 - 9 if FB and IG were an indication.

The conversation:

Me: Tinder says that we'd make beautiful babies but I think we should go out for drinks before working on Australia's Next Top Model
Her: Tinder told you that directly?
Her: The latest update is so advanced
Me:Who said anything about the updates?

Silence. That all happened the same morning.

Was it something I said? Or not enough that I said?

If I'm not too naïve, part of her bio was "...and lazy with this app".
Also, we're right smack in the middle of university exams.

Chill. What girl with a high SMV checks Tinder constantly? Most of them don't have the discipline - or the drive - to be super serious about a dating app. This is the origin of all the ghosting - they just don't particularly care that much. It's more like window shopping for them, and they dont see the need to commit. For them you are not "real". Worst case, youre just a means to an end, which is validation.

That being said: I often get solid responses days later. I dont really take it seriously, either. I dont obsess over 1 potential canditate on Tinder. Because otherwise I would go mental. 95% of the matches simply dont pan out.

And then theres sometimes a point when I fuck up. Especially when trying to joke - Im not overly funny anymore, because it always fucks everything up. So much lost potential, I learned it the hard way to be not overly "funny" or "cocky", which is a typical pua disease in my opinion. I can make sarcastical jokes when she knows me better, otherwise it always weirds her out.

I'm not sure what your point is in your response. Her answer was pretty witty, actually. You broke the flow of what could have been a smooth conversation. What were you trying to say with that? I always think about my strategy and where I want to go - the date. Every interaction, every text is leading forward - patiently, I dont rush it. Imagine what you want to achieve and before every text ask yourself the question: "Is this leading forward?". Part of this is making it as easy as possible for the girl to answer. If for me your response doesn't make sense, then imagine the girls reaction. You have put the ball in her court and she has to work to make it happen - this is never going to happen at this stage of the conversation, especially not with the hot girls.

(10-31-2016 01:37 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Can anyone help me out with this?

I matched with a German-Russian ex-model on Thursday whom I super-liked maybe a week before. Easily a HB8.5 - 9 if FB and IG were an indication.

The conversation:

Me: Tinder says that we'd make beautiful babies but I think we should go out for drinks before working on Australia's Next Top Model
Her: Tinder told you that directly?
Her: The latest update is so advanced
Me:Who said anything about the updates?

Silence. That all happened the same morning.

Was it something I said? Or not enough that I said?

If I'm not too naïve, part of her bio was "...and lazy with this app".
Also, we're right smack in the middle of university exams.

I'd have gone for the number when she replied, your response doesn't really move it along.

"Yeah, apps these days are very smart. What's your number?"

Remember you're playing the odds not trying to get every girl. I'd rather go for the keen ones than try to convert maybes.

Reciproke and Benoit - I hadn't had a good response in mind when sending that last message.

I think I'm getting better, but as you say, I'm still tongue-tied in moving along the interaction sometimes.

Do I have much chance of reviving this exchange? Either with your answer or another?

(10-31-2016 12:58 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  

(10-25-2016 07:27 AM)MFSEX Wrote:  This is a bit out there, but does anyone want to set up a skype group to share/analyse exchanges they've had on tinder?

Thing is, I have a lot of chats, some go good, some go bad, but I don't really have any feedback outside of my own, which makes it hard to improve your chat game. Fwiw I've been on like 10-15 dates this year so I have a fair amount of experience.

If you're interested, PM me.

I'm definitely interested, I'd brought up that idea on this thread some time ago, maybe last year, but it never took off.

My results are a bit like yours, it's kind of like sports where you have your good days and bad days.

Even over the past 10 days or so, when I'd restarted my account, while I've gotten 75 matches since — my highest ever match rate — I'm still having quite a lot of them fizzle out. This is probably in proportion to my previous tinder incarnations, but why not close the gap as much as I can?

It doesn't sound like much, but the law of averages says that I'd show up with lots of successful convos, which I have. I think it's all about practise makes perfect. I'll try to share the ones that got me the bang.

I'm noticing that my matches are a bit more eager to restart, or respond to restart messages are a few days. Maybe due to better photos.

PM'd

(10-31-2016 01:57 AM)reciproke Wrote:  Chill. What girl with a high SMV checks Tinder constantly? Most of them don't have the discipline - or the drive - to be super serious about a dating app. This is the origin of all the ghosting - they just don't particularly care that much. It's more like window shopping for them, and they dont see the need to commit. For them you are not "real". Worst case, youre just a means to an end, which is validation.

That being said: I often get solid responses days later. I dont really take it seriously, either. I dont obsess over 1 potential canditate on Tinder. Because otherwise I would go mental. 95% of the matches simply dont pan out.

And then theres sometimes a point when I fuck up. Especially when trying to joke - Im not overly funny anymore, because it always fucks everything up. So much lost potential, I learned it the hard way to be not overly "funny" or "cocky", which is a typical pua disease in my opinion. I can make sarcastical jokes when she knows me better, otherwise it always weirds her out.

I'm not sure what your point is in your response. Her answer was pretty witty, actually. You broke the flow of what could have been a smooth conversation. What were you trying to say with that? I always think about my strategy and where I want to go - the date. Every interaction, every text is leading forward - patiently, I dont rush it. Imagine what you want to achieve and before every text ask yourself the question: "Is this leading forward?". Part of this is making it as easy as possible for the girl to answer. If for me your response doesn't make sense, then imagine the girls reaction. You have put the ball in her court and she has to work to make it happen - this is never going to happen at this stage of the conversation, especially not with the hot girls.

This is a great post - especially the bolded. The thing about joking is even if you're great, there's a chance she doesn't get your humour, it's lost over the phone or she's just not into joking over text.

This post will be about the newest feature - the boost. It is a massive game changer and you all should take notes.

Everybody who's been using Tinder extensively will notice the amount of matches dropping with time. I suspect it has to do with the algorithm, and only rebooting the account helped me and everybody else who noticed this.

The problem is not your profile or pictures, but the competition. Most women just dont get to see your profile, because there are probably 10 times more men than women at any point on dating platforms (wild guess). This is the reason that even with a completely pimped out profile you wont get much engagement. Chicks are not as desperate as guys and won't bother to do endless swipes.

With Tinder Boost you can get 10x more exposure (according to Tinder). As a VIP user I can use it once a week for free. Other than that it costs money - a really good business strategy I have to admit.

The result was insane. I got 30 matches in half an hour (in Moscow). Even the high end supermodel types, who usually dont bother swiping enough to have a big statistical chance to see my profile. However, my pictures are on point, and results may vary. Its not like I could complain before that, in eastern europe at least. In the west Tinder is just fucking dead and saddening (even more important than the quality of your pictures and profile is the location and culture, which is another huge topic).

Effectively, Tinder becomes pay2win. I suspect the competetive edge it gives you will go away quickely as millions of thirsty man see the chance to score and pay up. Thats just how it is.

Use it wisely as long its still hot.

Cheers

why don't I get the boost. I've updated the app. My friend had it. It's not for android yet?

Jesus Christ this explains everything. Will report tomorrow. Did you use your boost during rush hour?

(11-01-2016 01:14 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  Jesus Christ this explains everything. Will report tomorrow. Did you use your boost during rush hour?

Funnily enough no, I was planning to do it during rush hour but accidentally hit the button. Doing it during rush hour makes most sense. However you can argue that when girls use Tinder during the day and under the week, that they are less flaky than those who use it in the evening as a replacement for popcorn cinema entertainment. Purely speculative. You can argue its the other way around, too. No way of knowing without keeping books. I get the feel that the season of the year plays also a role (more engagement during the cold seasons), but I digress. The point is that I got more matches than I could handle (max 10-15 at the same time), and with really good quality.

I will try it in the western city where I am currently living, too. But I really dont want to

Thanks for the heads up regarding the tinder boost, I hadn't heard of it until now.

Recently I have noticed a drop off of not only matches but girls been shown to me.

I live in a city of over a million people and yet I can barley swipe through about 20 girls before the 'searching for people near you' screen comes up. Who knows how the algorithm works?!

I'm tempted to get tinder plus for one month only and see what kind of results I get.

Has anyone else experimented with this?

(11-01-2016 04:11 PM)librero Wrote:  Thanks for the heads up regarding the tinder boost, I hadn't heard of it until now.

Recently I have noticed a drop off of not only matches but girls been shown to me.

I live in a city of over a million people and yet I can barley swipe through about 20 girls before the 'searching for people near you' screen comes up. Who knows how the algorithm works?!

I'm tempted to get tinder plus for one month only and see what kind of results I get.

Has anyone else experimented with this?

Doesn't sound like an issue that Plus would solve. Reset your account/change location/distance settings.

I just paid for tinder plus and used the boost. I notice that sometimes it has chicks float up while the timer is counting. Does that mean that I matched with those people? Also when it finished and when I went to messages I didn't get a single match wtf. Does that mean that either I haven't swiped right to these people yet or something's wrong with my tinder? I've never used boost before.

edit: I just completely went through all the girls in my area and still not matches. This makes no sense.

(11-01-2016 07:01 PM)destiny Wrote:  I just paid for tinder plus and used the boost. I notice that sometimes it has chicks float up while the timer is counting. Does that mean that I matched with those people? Also when it finished and when I went to messages I didn't get a single match wtf. Does that mean that either I haven't swiped right to these people yet or something's wrong with my tinder? I've never used boost before.

edit: I just completely went through all the girls in my area and still not matches. This makes no sense.

No, I believe it means those are girls that are actively seeing your profile. It also could just be a useless visual. You only match with them when it pops up in your matches. You should be ferociously swiping during your boost. I got 10-15 matches during the boost and another 5 trickled in up to a few days later. Hopefully the girls can't see that you used a boost (purple thunder symbol) as that would look lame. Overall, the boost was quite successful but sure felt like a fag using these stupid gimmicks.

Tinder is buggy. I've had weird cycles happen of seeing the same profiles over and over again. Likewise, I've had match droughts and match hot sprees. Doesn't appear to be much of a rhyme or reason sometimes. I'd take this as a blessing and get off tinder. Don't know about where you're at, but in LA, it's hard to bat near your SMV and there's tons of flakes. I've significantly downplayed it and it feels good.

(11-01-2016 08:30 PM)Balkan Wrote:  

(11-01-2016 07:01 PM)destiny Wrote:  I just paid for tinder plus and used the boost. I notice that sometimes it has chicks float up while the timer is counting. Does that mean that I matched with those people? Also when it finished and when I went to messages I didn't get a single match wtf. Does that mean that either I haven't swiped right to these people yet or something's wrong with my tinder? I've never used boost before.

edit: I just completely went through all the girls in my area and still not matches. This makes no sense.

No, I believe it means those are girls that are actively seeing your profile. It also could just be a useless visual. You only match with them when it pops up in your matches. You should be ferociously swiping during your boost. I got 10-15 matches during the boost and another 5 trickled in up to a few days later. Hopefully the girls can't see that you used a boost (purple thunder symbol) as that would look lame. Overall, the boost was quite successful but sure felt like a fag using these stupid gimmicks.

Tinder is buggy. I've had weird cycles happen of seeing the same profiles over and over again. Likewise, I've had match droughts and match hot sprees. Doesn't appear to be much of a rhyme or reason sometimes. I'd take this as a blessing and get off tinder. Don't know about where you're at, but in LA, it's hard to bat near your SMV and there's tons of flakes. I've significantly downplayed it and it feels good.

I see. Ya that's what I did, which was why I didn't have any more matches. I must have swiped through several hundred at least. I suppose since its my first day changing the country that later on, I will get more matches but I also had a bot that I swiped right on. It was about a photographer solicting their tinder profile picture services and I also swiped right to test it but got nothing. I guess I'll give it a few more days and then if I still don't get any matches I'm asking for a refund. Well I'm trying to pipeline for my trip to Poland on Saturday. I haven't had much matches here in Riga, maybe 5-6 matches.

I just tried the boost in Bangkok at 1pm. Got 30 new matches so far. What would you say is the best time to use it? Sunday evening?

Yes, Sunday evening would be my guess, too. Evening in general. Ideally you should get more matches than you can handle anyway at any time of the day.

You dont have to be active during the 30 minutes of the boost. You dont have to swipe like a maniac. You can put your phone away and come back later. Usually you will be shown with girls who swiped right on you first, so the first 10-30 swipes should match instantly.

Quote:I see. Ya that's what I did, which was why I didn't have any more matches. I must have swiped through several hundred at least. I suppose since its my first day changing the country that later on, I will get more matches but I also had a bot that I swiped right on. It was about a photographer solicting their tinder profile picture services and I also swiped right to test it but got nothing. I guess I'll give it a few more days and then if I still don't get any matches I'm asking for a refund. Well I'm trying to pipeline for my trip to Poland on Saturday. I haven't had much matches here in Riga, maybe 5-6 matches.

Dont swipe right like a maniac! You wont increase your chances to get a match. Its quite the opposite. An average girl matches with probably everyone on Tinder, because guys do this rageliking. This means you have less chance to be seen by her, as her feed is overblown with potential matches. Also, according to rumors, Tinder itself detects this behavior and highly dislikes it.

My advise: Dont use Tinder for a week. After that, you should get a lot of matches in a row. If not, your pictures sucks. Or your location.

What guys need to understand is that girls dont have the same discipline or thirst to swipe through dozens of profiles. Also there are always way more men than women. The only way to combat this is patience and pickyness. Or rebooting your profile. Now its boost, which seems to be more reliable.

When your profile is new, or you enter a new region, your profile is pushed to the front and you will get more engagement. With time, this decreases to maximum 2-5 matches a day. Which is ridiculous, I got 60 matches per day for 3 days straight when I changed my location to Saint Petersburg. The algorithm works in mysterious ways.

Quick fix to increase your matches: Decrease your search radius. This means less competetion. You still will be in other girls reach if they have a bigger search radius. If they swipe right on you, they will be shown first on your feed. Saves time and frustration.

Have any of you been asked to pay for a mutually beneficial relationship on Tinder, this one chick, who looks like an instagram model asked for 300 pounds for a mutually beneficial relationship and then she said let's meet and see how we get on....maybe she let me get a test run lol

(11-02-2016 02:03 AM)RagnarLothbrok Wrote:  I just tried the boost in Bangkok at 1pm. Got 30 new matches so far. What would you say is the best time to use it? Sunday evening?

Try Thursday evening too. Sunday I'd say all day. I also got it now but didn't try it since I don't need more matches right now. Just swiping now I got three new matches and I don't have any time to engage in conversations.

(10-22-2016 07:23 AM)JWLZG Wrote:  Interestingly, unlike my past 2 Tinder incarnations, I'm not matching with girls I've Super Liked nearly as often.

Super Like, the needy DLV.

What's wrong with a super like? Especially if they're given for free? I super liked one girl at 3am. Matched her about 20 min later. Was fucking her 25 min later.