(09-22-2016 08:51 AM)MFSEX Wrote:  Best day for a first date? On Wednesday I got a number and tried to set up a date for Thurs - she said she was busy, and didn't counter, so I assumed Fri and Sat were out. I then offered Sunday, to which she said "Sunday night!" - I said "yeah"! - radio silence.

Thoughts on - if they don't offer back a day should you not try a second time? (Maybe go for some more qualification?)

Give her a false choice between two days in the first place - "I'm free Thursday or Sunday, which works best for you?"

And just offer whatever days are good for you, unless she's already dropped hints that she's unavailable on those.

A girl who says no and doesn't come back with a counter-offer is usually a timewaster.

(09-22-2016 09:02 AM)goonies Wrote:  Tinder plus guys, what do you say when a girl asks why you are so far away and how the two of you matched?

You were visiting her place a couple of days ago.

If you did it to pipeline before you visit, just say you are coming back in a few days.
It works even for girls who are on the other side of the world... You had an important meeting or visiting family of whatever, but you will resume your trip next week. Makes you seem a busy man.

They don't really care, they just want a plausible explanation.

Whats the best city on Tinder to swipe I do nightshift so have 12 hours of boredom need a time filler?

Manila is fun to swipe, but if you are in Europe it's 3 am right now... maybe even better, as you get all the drunk party girls? You can also troll the ladyboys for laughs.

^ One where you can actually meet and bang the girls. Otherwise just hit up Instagram hos or pornhub

How's Tinder for 40+ dudes?

(09-23-2016 02:04 PM)Stallion Wrote:  Manila is fun to swipe, but if you are in Europe it's 3 am right now... maybe even better, as you get all the drunk party girls? You can also troll the ladyboys for laughs.

Done Manila many times in the past an interesting experience to say the least I hate having to dodge the ladyboys though.

Hmm I live near London Tinder has gone down the pan for many years here now so thats why I swipe elsewhere.

Usually to where I am going on holiday to Minsk has been the most popular European city for me in the past in terms of matches.

(09-22-2016 09:08 AM)Benoit Wrote:  

(09-22-2016 08:51 AM)MFSEX Wrote:  Best day for a first date? On Wednesday I got a number and tried to set up a date for Thurs - she said she was busy, and didn't counter, so I assumed Fri and Sat were out. I then offered Sunday, to which she said "Sunday night!" - I said "yeah"! - radio silence.

Thoughts on - if they don't offer back a day should you not try a second time? (Maybe go for some more qualification?)

Give her a false choice between two days in the first place - "I'm free Thursday or Sunday, which works best for you?"

And just offer whatever days are good for you, unless she's already dropped hints that she's unavailable on those.

A girl who says no and doesn't come back with a counter-offer is usually a timewaster.

Agree with this strategy generally but I really didn't want to go on Sunday unless necessary.

I agree they are time-wasters but I'm sure they can be recovered somehow. I just wonder where to go once they don't offer the counteroffer, if you should try again later in conversation, or you're relegated to trying again another day.

(09-21-2016 11:02 AM)rottenapple Wrote:  I just noticed with Tinder plus you can see´most recent active users´first. That seems worhwhile, is it new? It also says something like ´Balanced matches´. Wonder what that is about.

Another thing I wondered, based on the strategy mentioned here before of swiping left a lot at first, is if it would work with Tinder plus to put your location to some shithole where you have extremely high value, have all the local girls match you, let the algorhythm pick that up and then switch to your real location with Tinder acknowledging you as a top value user. Any thoughts?

So far the basics seem to be:
-High quality fotos, first one a close up of yourself, others of you doing interesting stuff and one of you with social proof. Max out the pictures you can put. Show body if you have it in a non stereotipical way (bathroom selfie). A picture with you dressed sharp or in a luxury environment would be good as well. So basically: 1. Close up. 2. Picture suited up or sharp looking. 3. Picture with social proof (maybe one with hot girls and one with cool guys, or mixed one). 4-6: pictures of you doing amazing stuff on which they can make comments, so adventure sports, nice scenery, bizar stuff etc.
-Put up a bio which shows value, not too much blabla but to the point and/or witty. Other strategy might be being very direct. If your job is high level mention it.
-Be ready to engage and meet up as soon as possible after a match. Seize the moment.
-Initially put location range to a few km´s. Only expand when there are no more candidates.
-Don´t unmatch.
-Use the superlikes.
-Go straight for the date or the whatsapp contact. If you can, play into something she says in her bio or something about her pictures to build comfort.
-Possible strategy that might work: set age range very wide and be very selective to raise value in the algorithm.
-If a girl does not show her body, uses special types of angles to hide something, has only one picture or vague pictures, swipe left.
-Girls that say ´only friendship´, ´no sex´etc. ,doesn´t matter, proceed as usual.
-Tinder ´going out tonight´function: realize it exposes your tinder use to fb contacts. If you use it, I would do it with another girl that is hot, I´ve gotten plenty of matches like that and many of them of another guy with hot girl, basically it indicates swapping partners (have not tried in practice to meet up, but it seems that would be the point), also groups of girls will match you easier I think when you are with a high value girl, interracial mix works best. If not this, a late night you with high value buddy might work as well to see if any girls closeby are bored and without guys. Any more experiences?
-Change locations frequently (Tinder resets your profile it seems when you enter a new place). What I´m not sure of is if it is the same to actually change location or to check other locations through tinder plus or GPS apps.
-Tinder plus is probably worth it now with new functions.
-Linking instagram: probably just depends on your profile there, I got cool pics but few followers (although decent followers-following ratio) and little social proof in my pics (basically me in amazing scenery and doing cool stuff). Not sure where the line is, girls might care more about how much followers etc. I still think we should find a way to unite RVFers on instagram, it should be possible to do so without all of being linked to our profiles here.

What am I missing?

Some variables I´m not sure of if they have an influence: frequency of swiping or logging in, amount of messages you send to matches, not showing age or location with plus, amount of shared interests (I generally have none in common with these girls, wonder if that hurts my matches).

Man really smart idea but assuming, but im not 100% sure of this, that when you switch your location back it would factor into the algorithm differently. Check it out though but I feel like that wouldnt work.

Has anyone tried having tinder on two devices? I tried to add it to my second phone and set up a profile for a different city. Even have another Facebook account for it. But tinder auto signs me into my other Facebook. I think the way around this is to make a separate Apple ID for that device. Can anyone confirm?

Ps the reason for two accounts is frequent travel. Getting 100s of matches in different cities mixed together sucks.

(09-26-2016 09:44 AM)Travel Museums Wrote:  Has anyone tried having tinder on two devices? I tried to add it to my second phone and set up a profile for a different city. Even have another Facebook account for it. But tinder auto signs me into my other Facebook. I think the way around this is to make a separate Apple ID for that device. Can anyone confirm?

Ps the reason for two accounts is frequent travel. Getting 100s of matches in different cities mixed together sucks.

Just don't install the Facebook app on your other device. It will pop up a window asking you to log in manually.

Ah hah! Success.

New question. Second account to pipeline my next city? Or sexual adventures profile in my current city??

(09-23-2016 02:42 PM)Half Century Wrote:  How's Tinder for 40+ dudes?

Pretty bad in my experience as a 40 something guy. The girls I match with for the most part aren't quality enough for me to put in effort for trying to get them in bed. Like I wouldn't want to take them out on a date much less 3 for the chance to bang them. I might bang them if I met them at a bar and they just wanted to go home with me. Might. Many of them I wouldn't want to get naked with at all.

(if you are wondering why I match with them, it's because I barely look and just swipe right)

Many of them have baggage and the vast majority are against hooking up. They are just too lazy to put the effort into a dating website even though they are looking for a LTR.

A typical match is a 38 year old women who is just plain, ugly or past her prime and has a couple of kids and a job and boring social life and isn't DTF.

If you are serious about it and look decently young it would be worth the effort to make an account and lie about your age.

Decent place to practice your text game though.

I tried the "change location to Philippines, (using fake GPS app not tinder plus) and get a bunch of matches, then change to real location and see if it helps" thing a while back and it did not, in my case, seem to help.

This was a couple of months ago when fake GPS app on android worked. But at the time my photos were pretty much crap, so take this with a grain of salt.

I have been successfully using 2-3 tinder accounts on 2 devices on android. My reason was frequent travel to another small town, and use the newer version of tinder on one device and old version that shows last online time on another.

As corsega says just don't sign in to the Facebook app. Or clear app data for Facebook app.

between logging out of one tinder acct and nd into another, I used to religiously clear app data.. settings>app manager>tinder>clear app data ...but havent always done that and no accounts got deleted. That said GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA, I WOULD SAY. The app especially the older version of the app sometimes seem buggy with frequent white refreshing screens and occasionally I have had periods where I believe my profile was not being displayed to girls much or at all.

Again, would appreciate it if anyone wants to share name of a fake GPS app that is working for them currently.

For me in the mid size town/s I am in currently, I pretty much get shown all the girls with the free version (comparing to my buddy who has paid version) so paid tinder currently has limited benefit.


I try to do a lot of pipelineing for the next time back in nearby town.. but rarely do those matches pan out.. so I've been generally waiting to send messages until distance shows the girl I am currently local.


But sure would be nice to have fake GPS working again, for that reason. Even for the paid tinder guys, I would think it might be handy to NOT give away the fact that you're paying for it, (I have a lot of luck with the "don't give a fuck" attitude on tinder) and looking like an actual local match..would be a benefit.

(09-26-2016 06:17 PM)dirty_old Wrote:  Again, would appreciate it if anyone wants to share name of a fake GPS app that is working for them currently.

It's not a fake GPS app, but BlueStacks.

(09-26-2016 03:26 PM)Rudeman Wrote:  

(09-23-2016 02:42 PM)Half Century Wrote:  How's Tinder for 40+ dudes?

Pretty bad in my experience as a 40 something guy. The girls I match with for the most part aren't quality enough for me to put in effort for trying to get them in bed. Like I wouldn't want to take them out on a date much less 3 for the chance to bang them. I might bang them if I met them at a bar and they just wanted to go home with me. Might. Many of them I wouldn't want to get naked with at all.

(if you are wondering why I match with them, it's because I barely look and just swipe right)

Many of them have baggage and the vast majority are against hooking up. They are just too lazy to put the effort into a dating website even though they are looking for a LTR.

A typical match is a 38 year old women who is just plain, ugly or past her prime and has a couple of kids and a job and boring social life and isn't DTF.

If you are serious about it and look decently young it would be worth the effort to make an account and lie about your age.

Decent place to practice your text game though.

I concur with this. My tinder account is 37 years old and I am really not impressed with women my age. Saying that, an app that I use allows me to preview who has already right-swiped me and most of them are in their 40s.

POF went like this a few years ago when I found that the average age of women who first looked at me profile, sent me a message, or sent the automatic 'hey there ' was around 5 years older.

A lot of women have pictures of their kids on their profiles and the first words they say are "So, what do you do for a living". There was once a time when women had to learn seduction to net men, not any more.

POF is probably the true description of internet dating market forces and these forces are not favourable to men but in fact probably set off the whole cougar thing.

I would caution young men to not rely on RT's SMV chart which describes men's peak value at 38. Yes, you will be more in demand than you were at 21 when you were forced to see Daisy May enjoy her market peak with multiple bad boys but you will not be attracted to much of the women who want you at 38.

Not sure if its been suggested, but I had a girl I was sleeping with take a look at my profile pics. I would strongly suggest if your with a girl who understands things are open with you two to get her opinion. Its been a help for me.

Note: I have never written anything in my bio and have probably done fine except she did suggest putting something as she would probably swipe left in most cases. We didn't talk about the written part yet

I'm from the UK and travelled to California recently where I dabbled in some Tinder.

I'm 37 and I'm consistently matching with girls in their 30s and 40s, and while this irritates me in the UK, in California it wasn't a problem. I was seeing a lot of very hot LA chicks well into their 40s with great bodies and who didn't have kids. Tons who didn't have kids! No idea why this is. This is in marked contrast to that same demographic in the UK where at that age they look like fat, chewed-up pieces of gum with four kids ("full-time mother" is the phrase you'll see over and over).

Also, so long as I engaged, girls there were giving me their number when I asked for it.

No need to fake GPS, just use the hide location and use tinder pus

(09-27-2016 07:48 AM)griffinmill Wrote:  I'm from the UK and travelled to California recently where I dabbled in some Tinder.

I'm 37 and I'm consistently matching with girls in their 30s and 40s, and while this irritates me in the UK, in California it wasn't a problem. I was seeing a lot of very hot LA chicks well into their 40s with great bodies and who didn't have kids. Tons who didn't have kids! No idea why this is. This is in marked contrast to that same demographic in the UK where at that age they look like fat, chewed-up pieces of gum with four kids ("full-time mother" is the phrase you'll see over and over).

Also, so long as I engaged, girls there were giving me their number when I asked for it.

Did anyone manage to get tinder flame working? I'm stuck at the create new password screen, I click next and nothing happens.

Apparently this app let's you see who right swiped you, saving tons of time.

I'm still at a bit of a loss as to how to get Tinder to work for me the way I want. I feel like I don't want to invest the time and energy to go on a date with some chick who I haven't met and might flake or who might not have any chemistry with me. At least if I meet the girl in person I'll have some idea of where it is going to lead.

Does anyone have a good "script" on how to just screen for the DTF girls? I'm pretty good about getting the number and being able to set up a date, but I don't want to do that. I've been on a few tinder dates, but now I just want to find a way to get laid without the dating thing.

@StackGsMan

There is a good thread about this by BlurredSevens called Zero Date Bang. Have a look, it might be what you are looking for. It mostly applies to online game if I recall correctly.

(09-30-2016 01:34 AM)angryrussian Wrote:  @StackGsMan

There is a good thread about this by BlurredSevens called Zero Date Bang. Have a look, it might be what you are looking for. It mostly applies to online game if I recall correctly.

Just read the thread. Awesome link man, thanks. I am definitely going to give this a try once I get situated.

(My second message refers to her second photo kissing a can of local draught beer.)

Any idea why this match ghosted for no apparent reason?

Because I look pretty different in my Tinder pics from my Facebook DP, I thought she would've looked me up and not liked what she saw.

I discussed this with another RVFer, who reckoned that she lost interest once she delved into my life?

Why would that be the case? I'd have thought that having friends in common would help build a level of comfort (just as social circle game generally does).

At least, if you were to believe media articles on Tinder . . .

I do have matches bringing that up every now and then (one other did, on Happn, which doesn't show mutual friends -- stalker game recognised); usually that happens during the actual meet up/date stage, how have you guys handled having mutual friends on your profiles?

She is cute, but I'll try not to take it as too much of a loss.