Rule number 1: This is the most important rule ever, do NOT believe a word that comes out of the lizard's mouth. This in regards to that 'study'. Let's say Susan Boyle says she will never want a family with a black guy. Why would you care???

(04-22-2016 11:34 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 11:12 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Random, but are we really surprised?

87% of White women want to have sex with Black men, according to new study.

Yea but it says only 13 percent actually would want to raise a family with us

Come on guys, we have been down this road before.

Survey's like that mean nothing to me, where was this survey taken and what was the sample size.

I would ask the question, how many guys would want to marry a white woman?

(04-22-2016 04:17 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 11:34 AM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 11:12 AM)DimeBait Wrote:  Random, but are we really surprised?

87% of White women want to have sex with Black men, according to new study.

Yea but it says only 13 percent actually would want to raise a family with us

Come on guys, we have been down this road before.

Survey's like that mean nothing to me, where was this survey taken and what was the sample size.

I would ask the question, how many guys would want to get married period

Fixed
In all seriousness though I have no desire to get married,but I do want to have kids at some point.
After reading everyone's thoughts about having mixed children, seems it would be best that my kids are fully black,however I dunno if I'd want that.
I am still hella young though, so my views might change.
Glad we have this thread for a multitude of reasons

^You didn't fix it.

Get to my age and you will think differently, when you start attending more funerals than weddings then you will think differently.

Yes Marriage is a risky business but what are the alternatives? Even if you live common law then you are considered married after X amount of months. A pre-nup is not set in stone, if she gets a good lawyer in a divorce then you are toast. As a black man, I don't want to be in front of a judge ever.

Now mixed children are considered black, I know some of us like to think of them as being mixed. Sadly, society won't look at them that way, isn't 1/16th black blood make them black.

^^^^
Not all states recognize common law marriage though.
I don't think the fear of being alone could out weigh the gamble of marriage.
I have a question though have any brothers here ever visited Italy? was wondering what its like there as a black male.

(04-22-2016 04:47 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  ^You didn't fix it.

Get to my age and you will think differently, when you start attending more funerals than weddings then you will think differently.

Yes Marriage is a risky business but what are the alternatives? Even if you live common law then you are considered married after X amount of months. A pre-nup is not set in stone, if she gets a good lawyer in a divorce then you are toast. As a black man, I don't want to be in front of a judge ever.

Now mixed children are considered black, I know some of us like to think of them as being mixed.Sadly, society won't look at them that way, isn't 1/16th black blood make them black.

I think there is a lot of misunderstanding about common-law marriage in the US. It currently only applies in 9 states. Therefore in the vast majority of states this isnt even an issue.

As for the 1/16th black is black thing...thats an antiquated slave era US centric way to look at race. In 2016 even in the south someone who is 1/8th black who doesn't shout "I'm black" to everyone passing by won't be regarded as such and if they did they would be looked at like rachael dolezal....a wannabe. Even during Jim Crow people that were only a 1/4 black could generally get away with passing for white if they moved to a town away from their black relatives.

I don't have the time to look this up now but there are tons of lists of actors/models/atheletes, etc(The rock, Vin diesel, etc) that are 1/4 or sometimes even half black that don't publicy identify as black and are virtually indistinguishable from southern ethnic whites or "latins".

To clarify, I agree in America the child of a black male and (insert race) woman will be considered black, the 1/2 level. But this 1/16 nonsense just isnt true anymore. If someone like Drake or J. Cole(1/2) married Taylor Swift and had a kid only the most bigoted american 1% would say that child (1/4) is black. And that child literally anywhere else on the planet would never be considered black.

While we're on the topic of mixed kids appearing/being considered black, note that this guy's grandfather was a full-blooded West African from Sierra Leone.










Genes are funny.

(04-23-2016 05:36 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  While we're on the topic of mixed kids appearing/being considered black, note that this guy's grandfather was a full-blooded West African from Sierra Leone.

[snip]

Indeed. Looking at this girl, for example, you'd never think her grandfather is black



But:

(04-22-2016 04:38 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  After reading everyone's thoughts about having mixed children, seems it would be best that my kids are fully black,however I dunno if I'd want that.

I think the mix vs non-mix discussion is overblown. For every "tragic mulatto" and "race traitor" I know, there are plenty of folks who have no identity problems.

The whole point of parenting is bringing up a healthy kid - physically, mentally, psychologically, spiritually. People aren't perfect, but it's not like you're just gonna stand aside while your Bristol Palin fills your children;s head with nonsense. LOL

If you take the larger view, which I suggest, that "game" is an idea that goes beyond getting chicks into bed - and it's more about applied psychology - then you really shouldn't be worried. There are plenty of societies/countries full of "mixed" people. Racism exists, colorism exists - but the fear that the person "doesn't know who they are and what side they're on" - is psychological warfare to keep us controlled.

WIA

Off topic, but I was listening this, and I immediately started thinking of the podcast.

(04-23-2016 10:06 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 04:38 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  After reading everyone's thoughts about having mixed children, seems it would be best that my kids are fully black,however I dunno if I'd want that.

I think the mix vs non-mix discussion is overblown. For every "tragic mulatto" and "race traitor" I know, there are plenty of folks who have no identity problems.

The whole point of parenting is bringing up a healthy kid - physically, mentally, psychologically, spiritually. People aren't perfect, but it's not like you're just gonna stand aside while your Bristol Palin fills your children;s head with nonsense. LOL

If you take the larger view, which I suggest, that "game" is an idea that goes beyond getting chicks into bed - and it's more about applied psychology - then you really shouldn't be worried. There are plenty of societies/countries full of "mixed" people. Racism exists, colorism exists - but the fear that the person "doesn't know who they are and what side they're on" - is psychological warfare to keep us controlled.

WIA

Thank you, Archie. Me and Rude started this podcast because some of these ideas sound quite absurd, no disrespect and we hoped to shed light on realities. But despite the amount of guests we have on, a lot of people are very adamant and cling with an iron grip to false notions about self. Maybe some of the brothas need to stop going to Europe and go to an African country and immerse themselves for a bit. We live in a global world now and a lot of you make a lot of money but you don't go to the same predictable spots. When I start to ask you certain questions, I start to hear excuses and just stereotypical notions about self placed in front. These concepts prevent growth. 99 percent of the listeners live in a Western country in which the passport allows travel in and out of practically any country on this planet. Use it and stop concerning about if you are mixed or look white or what white lizards say about marriage.

I see 3rd world Jamaicans and Nigerians who come and kill it. You lot in Europe see the club flooded with Nigerians gassing the white lizards heads. You claim you have more over those guys so let's see some examples. It's 2016.

Here is something for you lot to analyse. When I was younger, I used to wish I was jet black in complexion. I actually had envy for the 2am cats which is why I make my little jokes every now and then. These jokes are borne out of admiration. I am not light skinned in complexion.

(04-22-2016 05:21 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 04:47 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Now mixed children are considered black, I know some of us like to think of them as being mixed.Sadly, society won't look at them that way, isn't 1/16th black blood make them black.

As for the 1/16th black is black thing...thats an antiquated slave era US centric way to look at race. In 2016 even in the south someone who is 1/8th black who doesn't shout "I'm black" to everyone passing by won't be regarded as such and if they did they would be looked at like rachael dolezal....a wannabe. Even during Jim Crow people that were only a 1/4 black could generally get away with passing for white if they moved to a town away from their black relatives.

I don't have the time to look this up now but there are tons of lists of actors/models/atheletes, etc(The rock, Vin diesel, etc) that are 1/4 or sometimes even half black that don't publicy identify as black and are virtually indistinguishable from southern ethnic whites or "latins".

To clarify, I agree in America the child of a black male and (insert race) woman will be considered black, the 1/2 level. But this 1/16 nonsense just isnt true anymore. If someone like Drake or J. Cole(1/2) married Taylor Swift and had a kid only the most bigoted american 1% would say that child (1/4) is black. And that child literally anywhere else on the planet would never be considered black.

Here's a perspective from a "light-skin" guy if anyone cares.

IMO, the biggest failure of the Obama administration is not making a symbolic overturn of the One-Drop Rule.

As much as dark skin brothas complain about white women and other races not dating, the ones who are willing to date them are 9 times out of 10 going after dark skin men. Light skin men and half-black men are way more undesired by white and other non-black women. If it sounds like I'm "hating", I come from a borderline Black Supremacist city and county (DC amd bordering P.G. County) where dark skin black men can go after light skin women all day and it would be considered the epitome of "black love". But if the opposite occurred, particularly with a good looking dark skin female, people would throw fits. And if a light skin male would seek a light skin female, all hell would break loose. And that's if the light skin female doesn't turn up her nose at her light skin male counterpart. It's funny that a lot of blacks and whites will throw out the "tragic mulatto" card when they're the main ones enforcing the One-Drop rule when it's convenient so they can stifle competition, just like how the feminists and MRAs rig the SMV Market to suppress sexual access for men in general or men of certain races respectively.

Light skin and biracial men don't enjoy the benefits of being black (and there are benefits), while still suffering most of the detriments. Not all of America operates with this mindset to the nth degree, but in the long run, I'm considering pulling out of America, even if it's just to Canada. I find that asking any question regarding how light skin and biracial men would treated outside of America is way more controversial than a dark skin man asking the same question. And if I were to make a thread about that even on here, responses would be sparse at best, and at worst it probably be taken down with me being banned almost immediately. If the era of Obama, Vin Diesel, The Rock, and Drake hasn't improved the SMV of light skin and biracial black men, I don't see it happening anytime soon. If I'm not getting the benefits of being "black" while still being considered black, I might as well "get in where I fit in" as blacks love to say. Just like how Latinos, Asians, and other minorities who are at the bottom of the barrel in their native country move to America because they know they'll be treated better than blacks. And I don't fit in with the majority of America's preset image of "the black man", neither physically or mentally.

Not to make a sob story out of this. As how I refuse to believe "white supremacy" is a crutch, this "biracial/light skin male disadvantage" is another hurdle that can be conquered. But this just a different perspective to ponder.

(04-23-2016 01:21 PM)SuS Wrote:  Light skin and biracial men don't enjoy the benefits of being black (and there are benefits), while still suffering most of the detriments. Not all of America operates with this mindset to the nth degree, but in the long run, I'm considering pulling out of America, even if it's just to Canada. I find that asking any question regarding how light skin and biracial men would treated outside of America is way more controversial than a dark skin man asking the same question. And if I were to make a thread about that even on here, responses would be sparse at best, and at worst it probably be taken down with me being banned almost immediately.

100% truth nuke right there.

(04-23-2016 01:21 PM)SuS Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 05:21 PM)azulsombra Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 04:47 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Now mixed children are considered black, I know some of us like to think of them as being mixed.Sadly, society won't look at them that way, isn't 1/16th black blood make them black.

As for the 1/16th black is black thing...thats an antiquated slave era US centric way to look at race. In 2016 even in the south someone who is 1/8th black who doesn't shout "I'm black" to everyone passing by won't be regarded as such and if they did they would be looked at like rachael dolezal....a wannabe. Even during Jim Crow people that were only a 1/4 black could generally get away with passing for white if they moved to a town away from their black relatives.

I don't have the time to look this up now but there are tons of lists of actors/models/atheletes, etc(The rock, Vin diesel, etc) that are 1/4 or sometimes even half black that don't publicy identify as black and are virtually indistinguishable from southern ethnic whites or "latins".

To clarify, I agree in America the child of a black male and (insert race) woman will be considered black, the 1/2 level. But this 1/16 nonsense just isnt true anymore. If someone like Drake or J. Cole(1/2) married Taylor Swift and had a kid only the most bigoted american 1% would say that child (1/4) is black. And that child literally anywhere else on the planet would never be considered black.

Here's a perspective from a "light-skin" guy if anyone cares.

IMO, the biggest failure of the Obama administration is not making a symbolic overturn of the One-Drop Rule.

As much as dark skin brothas complain about white women and other races not dating, the ones who are willing to date them are 9 times out of 10 going after dark skin men. Light skin men and half-black men are way more undesired by white and other non-black women. If it sounds like I'm "hating", I come from a borderline Black Supremacist city and county (DC amd bordering P.G. County) where dark skin black men can go after light skin women all day and it would be considered the epitome of "black love". But if the opposite occurred, particularly with a good looking dark skin female, people would throw fits. And if a light skin male would seek a light skin female, all hell would break loose. And that's if the light skin female doesn't turn up her nose at her light skin male counterpart. It's funny that a lot of blacks and whites will throw out the "tragic mulatto" card when they're the main ones enforcing the One-Drop rule when it's convenient so they can stifle competition, just like how the feminists and MRAs rig the SMV Market to suppress sexual access for men in general or men of certain races respectively.

Light skin and biracial men don't enjoy the benefits of being black (and there are benefits), while still suffering most of the detriments. Not all of America operates with this mindset to the nth degree, but in the long run, I'm considering pulling out of America, even if it's just to Canada. I find that asking any question regarding how light skin and biracial men would treated outside of America is way more controversial than a dark skin man asking the same question. And if I were to make a thread about that even on here, responses would be sparse at best, and at worst it probably be taken down with me being banned almost immediately. If the era of Obama, Vin Diesel, The Rock, and Drake hasn't improved the SMV of light skin and biracial black men, I don't see it happening anytime soon. If I'm not getting the benefits of being "black" while still being considered black, I might as well "get in where I fit in" as blacks love to say. Just like how Latinos, Asians, and other minorities who are at the bottom of the barrel in their native country move to America because they know they'll be treated better than blacks. And I don't fit in with the majority of America's preset image of "the black man", neither physically or mentally.

Not to make a sob story out of this. As how I refuse to believe "white supremacy" is a crutch, this "biracial/light skin male disadvantage" is another hurdle that can be conquered. But this just a different perspective to ponder.

Juice.

Let's take it step further. A lot of these so-called inadequate light skinned black guys start simping and pandering to pseudo pro black non-sense and start espousing shit like "The black woman is God" or "We need to find a way to dismantle white supremacy" or how "we need to restructure the race". I've seen both light and dark guys do this because they think it will raise their SMV with black women. However, be careful of the masquerading. All this garbage is a way to qualify as some long term beta buck. It's becoming increasingly pervasive and being used by many black women who suddenly become 'militant' or "conscious of the evils of white supremacy" at the ripe young age of 28. I've listened to a lot of these guys speak and to be honest, they are cool, but their insecurities have destroyed them. They don't know how to properly live their lives on their own terms. Also this white supremacy bullshit is so fucking abstract to me. All the guys that spout that negative shit are either incels or hobbyists.

Incidentally, I do believe that black women like lighter skinned guys from what I've seen out here. DC is just not a very healthy place to live, bud. I've been twice for a few months and I probably will never go again...maybe. That place fucks with your head.

(04-23-2016 10:06 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(04-22-2016 04:38 PM)Avon Barksdale Wrote:  After reading everyone's thoughts about having mixed children, seems it would be best that my kids are fully black,however I dunno if I'd want that.

I think the mix vs non-mix discussion is overblown. For every "tragic mulatto" and "race traitor" I know, there are plenty of folks who have no identity problems.

The whole point of parenting is bringing up a healthy kid - physically, mentally, psychologically, spiritually. People aren't perfect, but it's not like you're just gonna stand aside while your Bristol Palin fills your children;s head with nonsense. LOL

If you take the larger view, which I suggest, that "game" is an idea that goes beyond getting chicks into bed - and it's more about applied psychology - then you really shouldn't be worried. There are plenty of societies/countries full of "mixed" people. Racism exists, colorism exists - but the fear that the person "doesn't know who they are and what side they're on" - is psychological warfare to keep us controlled.

WIA

Totally agree.

How you approach game typically reflects the effort
you put into other areas of life...i.e. how you create and pursue different opportunities.

The best way to give kids a strong sense of identity is to teach
them about their past...give them perspective so they can navigate.

Totally unrelated to what has been discussed during the past few pages but I was watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cdoofaaNI

He mostly focuses on Asian males but mentions why blacks get the low response rates that they do online at 5:45.

It made me think of

1. Why there is a discrepancy as to why blacks and Asians do better in person than they do online?

2. Why do blacks do better abroad?

As to 1, I think that online dating greatly exaggerates the affect of race. People, in general, stereotype and have imperfect information. Hence, people use their biases to a even greater degree online when making decisions. So, a lot of people have the perception of American blacks being low class and criminal. And those thoughts are even stronger online. Whereas, in real life, people may have those perceptions but, after interacting with you, may view you as being the exception. Therefore, blacks will do better in real life than online.

As to 2, if you are traveling abroad and if you are from a rich country, people automatically assume you have money. Also, American blacks are seen as being alpha and cool so that also helps. So unless, you go to a country where blacks have a negative stigma, e.g. most of Latin America, or you are going to a super nationalistic, anti-foreigner country, (Russia, perhaps?), you should get better results.

^ Fyi, the above is why I (an SE-Asian-American male) sometimes drop into the Black Man Game thread. Got commonalities?

On 1, Asians in the US are seen as submissive, both female and male. But again, when you show up in person, you get a better chance to be the exception.

On 2, Asians abroad are seen as hard-working hustlers, both female and male.

I have never liked online dating and stay clear of it.

I understand the younger guys like Tinder, but the reality is that it favours women greatly. In fact, women that don't get noticed in real life will have choices online. There is a part of me that thinks that the reason they came up with online dating, was to help these less desirable women. Again, I am no expert on online dating but what I do see, women can easily date up and men generally date down.

Now the only reason black men don't do so well online, is because of the many choices women have. It allows them to be picky.

When it comes to travelling, there is no country in the world where a decent looking black man cannot get love. I know a few African dudes that went to school in Russia and smashed it, the danger factor is real but there is always going to be X amount of women who will be receptive.

We all know how blacks are viewed in America. Outisde of Amerikkka (lol) black dudes are viewed in a mostly positive light, whether it be cool, creating good music, having a unique style, being in good shape and better looking than the local men of certain countries.

I have never ran into many Asian guys in my travels. A good friend of mine who is Chinese, recently returned from France and can't stop raving about it. Women were approaching him on the street when they heard him talk on his cellphone, one girl thought he soundded like some guy from the show "Sons of Anarchy". I guess they can't recognize a Canadian accent.

Moma and I have discussed this in our earlier podcasts, this is old news.

(04-23-2016 08:15 AM)Huey Wrote:  

(04-23-2016 05:36 AM)Excelsior Wrote:  While we're on the topic of mixed kids appearing/being considered black, note that this guy's grandfather was a full-blooded West African from Sierra Leone.

[snip]

Indeed. Looking at this girl, for example, you'd never think her grandfather is black



But:

If you look closely at the last picture you can discern some black features in her.

Who's up on Tinie Tempah?

I like this interview
http://www.highsnobiety.com/2016/04/25/t...interview/

^ He's a big deal in the UK.

Snazzy dresser.

In case any of you want to rustle the feathers of phony "grown and classy" black girls. Proof that boldness coupled with humor can disarm even the meanest bitches.

(04-23-2016 01:21 PM)SuS Wrote:  Light skin and biracial men don't enjoy the benefits of being black (and there are benefits), while still suffering most of the detriments. Not all of America operates with this mindset to the nth degree, but in the long run, I'm considering pulling out of America, even if it's just to Canada.

You might want to think long and hard about that move!

Being American and being black will help your social life, but your bank account will suffer and I hope you are a fan of the cold.

Canada is not a monolithic space. For those who live on the East Coast of America, they will have the same temperature as 'Canada'. Toronto is roughly the same temperature as New York City, Chicago might beat out Toronto and Minnesota blows Ontario out of the water including Thunderbay, Ontario which borders Manitoba, province that hosts Winnipeg aka Winterpeg. Nova Scotia is actually warmer than Toronto, it's just rather overcast and rains a lot. Very similar to England. I saw a few British people there and all. Vancouver is also mild in temp. Unless you reside along the bible belt of the US or lower, don't trip on the cold. You in the same geographic space. Why don't you lot try Alaska for lizards? I heard the economy is booming up there..

Anyone here traced their DNA? I recently did the AncestryDNA test for shits and giggles and was quite surprised by the results. As an African American they came out as 79% African 20% European and 1% Native American

Africa:
23% Cameroon/Congo
18% Ivory Coast/Ghana
16% Mali
7% Benin/Togo
6% Nigerian
6% SouthEastern Bantu
2% Senegal
1% African South-Central Hunters

Europe:
14% Western European
4% British
2% Irish