You're both right. Thanks

Hey guys, I need your expert opinion on this chick in my pipeline that I've been texting and trying to push for a meet with for almost a week now.

I'll give you some context first. I first messaged her on okcupid less than a week ago with a generic copy-paste type of one liner basically inviting her to check out my profile. After a few messages she seemed to be interested with messages along the lines of 'you're funny'. She literally wrote 'you're adorable' which to me sounded like an attempt to friend-zone me.
Then at some point she herself offered her phone number without me asking for it. So we started texting last Saturday.

I'll briefly sum up for you how the messages went.

Saturday:
She said she was meeting up with some friends at an irish pub which was like 20 minute ride away from my place, and she said I was welcome to join.
It sounded a little weird to me, because since when do girls invite dates to meet their friends, if the girl doesn't even know the guy? I figured probably her 'friends' are also a bunch of guys like me and she was looking for a way to met some beta males. I refused saying she invited me too late and I had other plans.

Sunday
I texted her first, asking if she was down to meet up that day. She used the excuse that she had a dinner planned with her roomates. I was trying to show that I'm not fixated on her and that i'm not a clingy guy and I was asking her if she could introduce me to her roomates if they are hot females. She said she'd keep an open eye. That was strike 2 on sounding like she was friendzoning me. But there were other mixed signals that day.
I sent a funny photo of me holding a beer can over my crotch area asking if she wanted to cure her hangover with some beer. She replied saying she wouldn't mind + wink and sending me a pic of her in her bra and underwear and showing her tattoo. Maybe she was just showing off, who knows.

Monday
On Monday the texting was the longest. I tried to move to some sexting to see if it was worth my time trying to push for a meet. After a while she asked me if 'my ego was in my pants', to which I responded no it's not, it's evenly distributed in my 165 centimeters (5 5). I was making fun of my short stature, and at some point I was hinting at the fact that she's taller than me by a few inches. She commented that she doesn't like guys with short syndrome complex. Then she also said that we both have egos, and it can't work out between two people with egos. I knew smth was fishy and suspicious there. It did sound like she was giving me the next at that point, but I'm not too sure.

Today I refrained from texting her as I wanna look back at the interaction with your help, and see if there's smth to do at this stage. If not, It'd be great to learn from mistakes.

A lil more context about me: I'm an average looking, skinny and short guy. I am also of Jewish origin, so somewhere between a white dude and arab dude I guess. I would give myself a 6.5, maybe a 7. I've had some luck in the past, and a lot of it had to do with self improvement and reading on how to game.
I've been on a lot of dates, and I learned that chicks don't differ from each other at all. Anyways, any feedback from experts would be appreciated!
How do I get to bang this chick or someone equivalent?

That chick is done.

(03-22-2016 09:20 PM)zmgty150 Wrote:  Hey guys, I need your expert opinion on this chick in my pipeline that I've been texting and trying to push for a meet with for almost a week now.

I'll give you some context first. I first messaged her on okcupid less than a week ago with a generic copy-paste type of one liner basically inviting her to check out my profile. After a few messages she seemed to be interested with messages along the lines of 'you're funny'. She literally wrote 'you're adorable' which to me sounded like an attempt to friend-zone me.
Then at some point she herself offered her phone number without me asking for it. So we started texting last Saturday.

I'll briefly sum up for you how the messages went.

Saturday:
She said she was meeting up with some friends at an irish pub which was like 20 minute ride away from my place, and she said I was welcome to join.
It sounded a little weird to me, because since when do girls invite dates to meet their friends, if the girl doesn't even know the guy? I figured probably her 'friends' are also a bunch of guys like me and she was looking for a way to met some beta males. I refused saying she invited me too late and I had other plans.

Sunday
I texted her first, asking if she was down to meet up that day. She used the excuse that she had a dinner planned with her roomates. I was trying to show that I'm not fixated on her and that i'm not a clingy guy and I was asking her if she could introduce me to her roomates if they are hot females. She said she'd keep an open eye. That was strike 2 on sounding like she was friendzoning me. But there were other mixed signals that day.
I sent a funny photo of me holding a beer can over my crotch area asking if she wanted to cure her hangover with some beer. She replied saying she wouldn't mind + wink and sending me a pic of her in her bra and underwear and showing her tattoo. Maybe she was just showing off, who knows.

Monday
On Monday the texting was the longest. I tried to move to some sexting to see if it was worth my time trying to push for a meet. After a while she asked me if 'my ego was in my pants', to which I responded no it's not, it's evenly distributed in my 165 centimeters (5 5). I was making fun of my short stature, and at some point I was hinting at the fact that she's taller than me by a few inches. She commented that she doesn't like guys with short syndrome complex. Then she also said that we both have egos, and it can't work out between two people with egos. I knew smth was fishy and suspicious there. It did sound like she was giving me the next at that point, but I'm not too sure.

Today I refrained from texting her as I wanna look back at the interaction with your help, and see if there's smth to do at this stage. If not, It'd be great to learn from mistakes.

A lil more context about me: I'm an average looking, skinny and short guy. I am also of Jewish origin, so somewhere between a white dude and arab dude I guess. I would give myself a 6.5, maybe a 7. I've had some luck in the past, and a lot of it had to do with self improvement and reading on how to game.
I've been on a lot of dates, and I learned that chicks don't differ from each other at all. Anyways, any feedback from experts would be appreciated!
How do I get to bang this chick or someone equivalent?

Cockteaser - if a girl invites you for the first meet up to join her and her friends and can't make time one on one, she probably isn't serious about fucking. I had a similar experience with a French chick, even though I had more value - a few inches taller, day game approach. Girl happy to text back and forth but doesn't want to commit to anything.

Just move on. If she really likes you, she'll reach out to you - don't be the chaser, be the chasee.

Been talking to a girl online, she said I should visit her country (Japan) I said I would need a guide. She said she wants to, but would be bad at it. I was thinking of replying with something along the lines of "practice makes perfect" (but her English is not the best). Any suggestions?

(03-24-2016 07:42 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  Been talking to a girl online, she said I should visit her country (Japan) I said I would need a guide. She said she wants to, but would be bad at it. I was thinking of replying with something along the lines of "practice makes perfect" (but her English is not the best). Any suggestions?

Are you already planning a trip to her country?

If not, why are you even asking the question?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-14130...pid1259930

I don't have particularly high hopes, but her mentioning her ass was humorous and maybe something more. Thinking of texting:

"did you get a tattoo of my name word on your ass yet?"

Any thoughts? If not, that's just what I'm going to do.

(03-25-2016 03:03 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(03-24-2016 07:42 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  Been talking to a girl online, she said I should visit her country (Japan) I said I would need a guide. She said she wants to, but would be bad at it. I was thinking of replying with something along the lines of "practice makes perfect" (but her English is not the best). Any suggestions?

Are you already planning a trip to her country?

Going in like 10 days! Realised I didn't make that very clear in my first post.

@Libertas

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/calling-...w-to-do-it

Keep it simple. Pick up the phone.

(03-19-2016 09:29 AM)ksbms Wrote:  Girl from THIS approach. Reinitiated two days ago, asked her what her weekend plans were, she replied "Nothing special, usual things to do at home and asked about my plans." Se seems interested, asked me when, suggested Saturday, 7pm, got this:

"I have to meet a french friend tonight, I don't know when, I have to wait for her to answer. Can I tell you later if it's still Ok ? Or maybe you could join us"

So, suddenly a friend appeared! And there is no other time for her female friend to meet with her than exactly the same time I suggested. Come on, girls can meet any time they want. My take on that is, if she were serious about sex, she wouldn't put up this barrier.

What do you guys reckon?

Not sure where this going but was texting back and forth a bit with this chick (it's been almost 4 weeks since me approaching her) and last night I got this:

Her (21:39) Do you still want to see me even if I told you I had a boyfriend in France... ?
Me (21:57) let's meet and see how it goes
Her (22:09) Cool

What is this girl telling me? What would you text back?

She's already agreeing to meet you. Text her a couple of times and venues to get her to think past the sale.

Anyway, bartender girl texted me back:

Me: yo naughty, you get that tattoo of my name yet?
Her: lol who is this
Me: the one whos name you were going to get tattooed somewhere naughty
we know you like those words

No response yet. I was trying to refer to some callback humor as I teased her over her "tattoos of words."

In retrospect, I think I should have gone with my gut and said "Donald Trump." Or just called her outright like GLL has always recommended.

But, I didn't put my name in her phone last night, so she may not have remembered or known who I was, and when I reminded her, she may not have liked me enough, and no text game can help if that's the case.

Maybe I'll do one warmup text in a day or two if she doesn't reply later (it's been about an hour).

Text game has always been my pet peeve in this business, so I'm A/B testing at the moment.

(03-25-2016 12:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  She's already agreeing to meet you. Text her a couple of times and venues to get her to think past the sale.

Well, yeah... texted her when she'd be free and she replied 'I have a male friend from England this weekend so I don't know..'

Not very coherent to me - instead of flying back home for Easter to see her boyfriend (or vice-versa), she invites a male friend for that period over to hers?

(03-25-2016 01:29 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(03-25-2016 12:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  She's already agreeing to meet you. Text her a couple of times and venues to get her to think past the sale.

Well, yeah... texted her when she'd be free and she replied 'I have a male friend from England this weekend so I don't know..'

Not very coherent to me - instead of flying back home for Easter to see her boyfriend (or vice-versa), she invites a male friend for that period over to hers?

ALERT: Massive attention whore. She's friend-zoning you or at best being non-committal. I'd just abort entirely and approach more girls.

(03-25-2016 09:11 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  

(03-25-2016 03:03 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  

(03-24-2016 07:42 PM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  Been talking to a girl online, she said I should visit her country (Japan) I said I would need a guide. She said she wants to, but would be bad at it. I was thinking of replying with something along the lines of "practice makes perfect" (but her English is not the best). Any suggestions?

Are you already planning a trip to her country?

Going in like 10 days! Realised I didn't make that very clear in my first post.

She said she wants to. That is key. I would continue, make sure to mix in enough comfort game. For example, "That's okay, we'll have fun" or something as a response. You can challenge her some, but remember to not lose her interest by pushing too hard. In the meantime pursue other leads in her country, give yourself lots of options.

(03-25-2016 12:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  She's already agreeing to meet you. Text her a couple of times and venues to get her to think past the sale.

Anyway, bartender girl texted me back:

Me: yo naughty, you get that tattoo of my name yet?
Her: lol who is this
Me: the one whos name you were going to get tattooed somewhere naughty
we know you like those words

No response yet. I was trying to refer to some callback humor as I teased her over her "tattoos of words."

In retrospect, I think I should have gone with my gut and said "Donald Trump." Or just called her outright like GLL has always recommended.

But, I didn't put my name in her phone last night, so she may not have remembered or known who I was, and when I reminded her, she may not have liked me enough, and no text game can help if that's the case.

Maybe I'll do one warmup text in a day or two if she doesn't reply later (it's been about an hour).

Text game has always been my pet peeve in this business, so I'm A/B testing at the moment.

I think that your text was a bit too try hard. As red put it calling her or the Donald Trump response you came up with would have worked infinitely better.

(03-25-2016 03:22 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  She said she wants to. That is key. I would continue, make sure to mix in enough comfort game. For example, "That's okay, we'll have fun" or something as a response. You can challenge her some, but remember to not lose her interest by pushing too hard. In the meantime pursue other leads in her country, give yourself lots of options.

Cheers man. I said that, and she said that "she hopes so " (what is it with J girls and emoticons). She mentioned about visiting the UK. I replied saying I would be the best guide.

The thing is, how do I tell her I'm actually going Japan in like a week without sounding creepy / stalkery? Because I have only mentioned that I want to so far?

(03-25-2016 12:06 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Anyway, bartender girl texted me back:

Me: yo naughty, you get that tattoo of my name yet?
Her: lol who is this
Me: the one whos name you were going to get tattooed somewhere naughty
we know you like those words

No response yet. I was trying to refer to some callback humor as I teased her over her "tattoos of words."

In retrospect, I think I should have gone with my gut and said "Donald Trump." Or just called her outright like GLL has always recommended.

But, I didn't put my name in her phone last night, so she may not have remembered or known who I was, and when I reminded her, she may not have liked me enough, and no text game can help if that's the case.

Maybe I'll do one warmup text in a day or two if she doesn't reply later (it's been about an hour).

Text game has always been my pet peeve in this business, so I'm A/B testing at the moment.

I don't think it's necessary to always try to reply with something humorous or witty when she asks you a direct question. What's the harm in telling her who you are? You can always put a little playful spin on it if you want.

"It's Libertas, you were checking out my butt when I paid my bar tab"

Or drop in something playful from your interaction to jog her memory. Not telling her who you could hurt more than help

Russian girl from one of my classes who I'm trying to get into. I'm a black dude btw. We see each other once a week (in class), usually sit close by, converse, etc. Have worked on school projects together. Very friendly relationship. 99% sure she's not interested romantically, although I'm sure she knows I am, because I've made it fairly obvious without outright hitting on her. We went out for drinks a couple weeks ago (my idea) after class one day, made plans to do it again, she's been too busy when I've asked (legitimately and confirmed).

FB msg'd asking how some schoolwork I helped with was going. She read the msg, didnt reply until next day. Which, not gonna lie, rustled me. And pretty much confirmed she's not interested. I replied "ok. good luck" which was much shorter than I usually am with her. She replies "Thank you! Drinks soon?". Which i'm guessing is only cause she sensed the vibe.

Idk. No ill feelings if she's truly not interested, girl has no obligation to me, and I've got shit to do anyway. But have to give it a shot since she's cool and sexy as hell. Want to go, but if I'm gonna potentially waste my time on drinks I'd like to know she really wants to, and isn't just trying to throw a bone bc she thinks i'm butthurt. Definitely overthinking things, but I like her. I'm not perfect. Any ideas?

Men have been using drinks to lower female inhibitions for centuries, and there's a reason for this: It works.

Even if she doesn't drink much, she'll backwards rationalize that "I slept with him because I was soo drunk!" Yeah right.

It's hamster fuel. Use it to your advantage.

...Shit. Good point.

Got number:

Random talk about our dogs or some bullshit

Me:what are you up to next sat?

Her:this sat?

Me:yea

Her:I work

Hours later

Me:ok

Someone mentioned in another thread never to set up for a weekend, also I shouldnt have responded with ok at the end there, anyway I can reinitiate or should I just move on, obviously she matched and gave the number so there is some attraction.

I am just terrible at texting and am more of an in person type person, I know I can game any girl in person, just texting you can really express much.

(03-29-2016 11:34 AM)TheDuncan Wrote:  Got number:

Random talk about our dogs or some bullshit

Me:what are you up to next sat?

Her:this sat?

Me:yea

Her:I work

Hours later

Me:ok

Someone mentioned in another thread never to set up for a weekend, also I shouldnt have responded with ok at the end there, anyway I can reinitiate or should I just move on, obviously she matched and gave the number so there is some attraction.

I am just terrible at texting and am more of an in person type person, I know I can game any girl in person, just texting you can really express much.

Genuinely interested girl will counter-offer... Otherwise, consider firing off a text here and there, but don't expect much (if anything at all).

Ok here's a situation i'm in currently: match with girl on tinder 5 days ago, message her fun and flirty, get to joking about Justin Bieber, i ask her something and she says it's a long story. I say "I've got time" (yes poor line). She doesn't respond till just now (3 days later) saying "take me to a [college] party". She goes to a neighboring school like 30ish mins away. How to proceed?

(03-31-2016 11:28 PM)Switch Wrote:  Ok here's a situation i'm in currently: match with girl on tinder 5 days ago, message her fun and flirty, get to joking about Justin Bieber, i ask her something and she says it's a long story. I say "I've got time" (yes poor line). She doesn't respond till just now (3 days later) saying "take me to a [college] party". She goes to a neighboring school like 30ish mins away. How to proceed?

This is a power play. She's testing to see if you're going to eagerly jump on the opportunity to be in the presence of her company. Flip the script:

"Thursday at 8. Meet at my place. Wear something sexy"

Whatever you reply with, it has to convey that you're the one leading, not her

^Good points. I ended up saying "I ain't that easy". I don't know if this was any good or not. I sent it at about 1 am, it's afternoon now and she still hasn't responded so we'll see. I imagine I'll have to hit her with a restart text in a few days. Cheers.

(04-01-2016 03:24 PM)Switch Wrote:  ^Good points. I ended up saying "I ain't that easy". I don't know if this was any good or not. I sent it at about 1 am, it's afternoon now and she still hasn't responded so we'll see. I imagine I'll have to hit her with a restart text in a few days. Cheers.

Your reply may have been too harsh. She was open to meeting you, but trying to assert dominance at the same time. Her willingness to meet is a good thing, but you want to take the lead without shutting her down completely. Girls have fragile egos.