Go to the globe stand on the 2nd floor of the airport
Get unlimited data for 1000p and some calls for 500. They will put the card in your phone for u and set it up

To keep my self productive, I have a to-do list:

1. Fuck one of the female security guards while she has her uniform still on
2. Have sex with a Filipina with Steel Panther - Asian Hooker blasting in the background (due tonight)
3. ...

I'm open to suggestions.

Just when you thought it couldnt get any better....
Netflix now works in the Phils
Netflix and Chill in the Phil

(01-13-2016 10:44 PM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  Anyone have any tips for gaming the J girls you'll occasionally see in Cebu? I'm a young, relatively good-looking guy and get some mild IOI's from them at malls and whatnot but they're almost never alone and the conversations tend to just fizzle out and end up nowhere. I did bang one that I met at the casino one night but she was alone and was leaving in a couple of days so I take no credit, she practically pulled herself.

Koreans on the other hand give me zero eye contact and their English is nonexistent so I haven't really tried yet. They're sexy as fuck though and I refuse to go back home until I get my Korean flag.

How do you tell them apart?

(01-14-2016 07:41 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  I've never banged a Korean there, so treat the following purely as speculation. I've posted this elsewhere.

I'd bet the best place for scoring a Korean girl in Phil is Boracay. When I was there I saw tons of Koreans, considerably more women than men, though still in groups. They’re in vacation mode and there to have some fun for a few days, so less likely to have hangups about sleeping with a random guy than they would if they’re staying in Cebu, Manila, or Angeles semi permanently to study English.

That is sound reasoning but some Koreans in Cebu are actually from the nearby Mactan island resorts.

(01-14-2016 12:37 AM)asdfk Wrote:  I had quite a few girls ask me to come with either palawan or cebu with them on a first date, or even through tinder.These are the relatively rich makati crowd I'm shooting my load into so It kinda confuses me. Are these girls trying to get me to pay for shit or is it something else ?

They're not. You say yourself they have own money.

I had the same happen, and no, I would only be expected to pay for myself - I didn't take the offer.

(01-14-2016 05:05 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  ^ To each his own, but personally, I prefer not spoiling these hoes.

I mean, do you realize the massive sense of entitlement it takes for a woman to flat out hint to go on vacation, and on a first date no less, which is what the original poster was talking about ("I had quite a few girls ask me to come with either palawan or cebu with them on a first date, or even through tinder")?

That's sound reasoning but asdk is probably just being paranoid here. I had the same. In two cases girls were going anyway with some of their friends/relatives and in one it was a very lonely 29 year old (with a job) afraid she's may stay unvoluntarily unmarried.

(01-14-2016 10:40 PM)Mr. Pink Wrote:  Did you see any vacationing Europeans while you were down there?

Yes, a ton. I ended up talking for a while with a group of French guys and a guy from the Norwegian Navy. In my hotel, there was a Finnish couple and an Aussie couple. You will be much less exotic compared to pretty much anywhere else in Phil. Probably depends on when you go, when Europeans typically use vacation, etc.

If you do go, don't be afraid to haggle on some of the tours. I was able to knock 30% off a parasailing package.

(01-15-2016 04:20 AM)LeapLeap Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 05:05 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  ^ To each his own, but personally, I prefer not spoiling these hoes.

I mean, do you realize the massive sense of entitlement it takes for a woman to flat out hint to go on vacation, and on a first date no less, which is what the original poster was talking about ("I had quite a few girls ask me to come with either palawan or cebu with them on a first date, or even through tinder")?

That's sound reasoning but asdk is probably just being paranoid here. I had the same. In two cases girls were going anyway with some of their friends/relatives and in one it was a very lonely 29 year old (with a job) afraid she's may stay unvoluntarily unmarried.

I think my post to asdk was pretty mellow and straighforward. The post you quoted was a reply to another poster.

Sorry mate, didn't catch that. Point taken.

Anyone been in Cebu for Sinulog before? I've been here for a few months and have heard about it dozens of times, finally get to see what it's all about tomorrow. I hear the main roads all get shut down and the streets, especially around Mango, are absolutely filled with people partying from noon till the following morning. It's gotta be a thing, all the hotels in the area are sold out and I've been seeing exponentially more foreigners around the last few days.

Yeah, it will be big and especially the mango square will be totally packed.
I went with my car today to the gym (ayala mall -> golds gym) and the traffic was crazy.
Still the party is as well crazy what is a good thing - hence have a good time.

Anyways, folks I have an issue which I was actually not sure if I wanna even bother you with this one, but where you could hope for some good advices from men to men if not here.
Also I am not sure if this is the right place to post my case, but hence I am living in the Phils and the case has happened here, I also hope for insights from experienced expats.

Ok, lets start:

About 2 months ago I have banged a woman which I have met in a club. (she was visiting cebu, but actually is living in manila)
First meet -> same night lay, so I think she is not a holy girl...+ obviously she has tons of other foreign dudes in her friendlist on FB.

Today she texts me on FB suddenly (no contact anymore since then) that she hates me and I had impragnated her.
And she acts like crazy and do not wanna get an abortion as well.

I have thought she is bluffing and told I had a vascectomy 2 years ago
(this is a rebluff from me and is not true).

As for the sex - I have worn as usual a condom, but at the second time it did break, BUT I id not have ejaculated yet into her.
So it is highly unlikely from my understanding that I have really impragnated here. (in theory possible if there was from the first bang still some rest of sperm the head of my dick?)

It is also strange because there are some aspects which do make me believe that she is full of shit:

- I almost never post something on my startingpage on FB (like every 4 months once inspiring quote or something like that).
Yesterday night I in fact have posted since many months the forst time something on my startingpage and only few hours after it she contacts me?
Why not earlier? Looks for me as she already did forget me and then have seen my FB-update -> but hey, I might be a solid prospect for her unborn child (if she would be really pregnant) where she do not know who the father might be - so why not try her luck and shot me a text.

- At first she only said that her period is not coming.
Only once I have asked her later in the convo if she has made already a pregnancy test, she has insisted that she did so - why not telling me such a major factor at the beginning?

Within the second convo we had few hours later, I have asked here again about if she really did a pregnancy test and she has posted to m a picture from a positive tested test withing a speed which was so fast, that a human being cannot make so quick a pic and send it - it was within 5 seconds at most. Like if it was prepared already or maybe even sent already to some other dudes..

But still she does not give up and claims that Im the only guy in the relevant time period who had sex with her.
Now she goes on a mode where she is calming down and wanna put guilt on me by saying stuff like

"your didn't accept this. Don't bother me again. I never expected that you tell me that. "
or
"I never force you to accept it I just tell you the truth. I am not crazy to say this"

But after I said to her clearly that,
1.) I did not impragnate her and that in the worst case I will demand a DNA-test
2.) I think that in her shoes an abortion is a good choice because the situation for her is not optimal to get a child.

After this, she got mad again and just typed a few times that she hates me and so on and then went offline.

I just want to ask you guys within this thread what you think about all of it and what you think the spot is here, from your experience?


Also how is it law-wise in the Phils?
I mean, can she force some authorities power on me, even before the case is cleared (fatherhood test)?
And if so, how would it look like?
Can she make to me legal troubles?
What would you recommend to me if you would be in my shoes?


It really stresses me because I always protect with condoms to avoid such drama and potential games, so it srikes me that it still happens...
I mean, come on - Im such a lifenit-nerd when it comes to going raw and I never do unprotected bangs, and then this...bahh


Anyways,
I would really appreciate any constructive feedback and any advices.

Regards,
Highlander

Why doesn't she wanna get an abortion? I would go through all the reasons why she doesn't want to and then logically convince her why each one is bad. Like literally take out a pen and paper. No emotions, just logic. The "Western" way, or whatever. I'm good at this kind of stuff but I don't know how you would do it.

At the same time, def get a DNA test.

(01-16-2016 01:00 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  Why doesn't she wanna get an abortion? I would go through all the reasons why she doesn't want to and then logically convince her why each one is bad. Like literally take out a pen and paper. No emotions, just logic. The "Western" way, or whatever. I'm good at this kind of stuff but I don't know how you would do it.

At the same time, def get a DNA test.

The problem with this is that in the Philippines abortion is not legal.
So my worry is that I cannot go with convincing her too much because I do not know if at the end something like that might be used against me and authorities might frame it as if I would have instigated her to commit an illegal act (abortion) and hence it could lead for serious negative consequences for me.

Maybe my worry here is absolutely over the top, I overthink here and the act of only giving a local woman in the Phils the advice for abortion is not actually something which might you get into trouble.
I just do not know this and hope as well here for some knowledge of more experienced PH-expats,

Otherwise your idea would be solid.
Unless she would come with religious stuff (many locals here are pretty godfearing) , then it would be difficult to counter with logic.

(01-16-2016 01:12 PM)Highlander Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 01:00 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  Why doesn't she wanna get an abortion? I would go through all the reasons why she doesn't want to and then logically convince her why each one is bad. Like literally take out a pen and paper. No emotions, just logic. The "Western" way, or whatever. I'm good at this kind of stuff but I don't know how you would do it.

At the same time, def get a DNA test.

The problem with this is that in the Philippines abortion is not legal.
So my worry is that I cannot go with convincing her too much because I do not know if at the end something like that might be used against me and authorities might frame it as if I would have instigated her to commit an illegal act (abortion) and hence it could lead for serious negative consequences for me.

Maybe my worry here is absolutely over the top, I overthink here and the act of only giving a local woman in the Phils the advice for abortion is not actually something which might you get into trouble.
I just do not know this and hope as well here for some knowledge of more experienced PH-expats,

Otherwise your idea would be solid.
Unless she would come with religious stuff (many locals here are pretty godfearing) , then it would be difficult to counter with logic.

I'm willing to bet that there are more than a few black market clinics there there that do illegal abortions. I bet she even has a friend of a friend that knows one or had it done. Maybe you can ask around.

I hate the fact that I'm condoning this, but you know how these SEA countries are.

I sympathize with your problem - I really do. But it seems like this issue comes up on a regular basis, the conversation always goes the same, and it gets a little old.

The frequency of members encountering this stuff doesn't surprise me in the slightest; we are, after all, a forum full of players. What does surprise me, however, is the number of grown men choosing to live this lifestyle not having already considered exactly what they'll do when some broad cries (usually falsely) pregnancy.

And having to turn to the board for personal advice when it does happen as if it's some unique scenario.

I too highly value the knowledge and support of the forum, but when I went through these things, I just dealt with the situation best as I saw fit. There's nothing the forum can tell me about this issue better than I can tell myself. I mean, do you really think anyone here is going to tell you anything you haven't thought of yourself or that you wouldn't be better off discovering through a simple Google search? In the end, you can only decide how to respond anyhow.

And when it comes to legal concerns, surely a lawyer (or even a local hustler) is going to have more accurate info for you on that than any of us. All we have is conjecture.

As shocking as these moments can be on a personal level, this is still a very basic life challenge and bound to happen sooner or later, especially (on the side of falseties for the sake of trapping you) in a poor country where guys with money go to find easy sex.

Worst case scenario is you have a baby you didn't want to have, and you know what, that's part of life. I mean, do we need to create a downloadable pdf for the forum (alongside all the various threads about it) outlining the steps a man should take (they are the same no matter how many details you give us) if a girl calls him to say she's pregnant?

We can't bang these girls for you, we can't put your rubber on for you, and we can't tell you how to talk her into an abortion or figure out if she's even telling the truth. Some things in life a man just has to face on his own.

In any case, the issue has been discussed at length here on the forum as well as in many other SEA expat forums.

Since I just harped on you, I'll go ahead and give my take anyways. My gut feeling is it's just another girl shit-testing you to see how you'll react or trying to get some money out of you. It's common knowledge this thing happens all the time here, which is why every other single reader will have the same gut feeling, and you indicated you know as much already in your post.

I'd just ignore her for a while; if it's real and she truly believes it's yours, trust me, she won't stop getting in touch anytime soon. If you want to know what your rights are, talk to a local attorney.

You can get abortions here, but I can't comment on the legality or the severity of the punishment - I'm against them on a moral level, myself, but that's beside the point. I guess the real point is that it's a legal issue and the guys here can't be responsible for giving you advice that might backfire.

You're already here with your boots on the ground; if the problem doesn't go away you're just going to have to do some homework.

EDIT: The vasectomy bluff may be a good move. At the very least, you may get a decent read on how she reacts to that.

(01-16-2016 01:39 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  My gut feeling is it's just another girl shit-testing you to see how you'll react or trying to get some money out of you.

This is what I was thinking as well.

Also, how ya doin, BB? Long time no see

(01-16-2016 01:32 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 01:12 PM)Highlander Wrote:  

(01-16-2016 01:00 PM)WalkingMan Wrote:  Why doesn't she wanna get an abortion? I would go through all the reasons why she doesn't want to and then logically convince her why each one is bad. Like literally take out a pen and paper. No emotions, just logic. The "Western" way, or whatever. I'm good at this kind of stuff but I don't know how you would do it.

At the same time, def get a DNA test.

The problem with this is that in the Philippines abortion is not legal.
So my worry is that I cannot go with convincing her too much because I do not know if at the end something like that might be used against me and authorities might frame it as if I would have instigated her to commit an illegal act (abortion) and hence it could lead for serious negative consequences for me.

Maybe my worry here is absolutely over the top, I overthink here and the act of only giving a local woman in the Phils the advice for abortion is not actually something which might you get into trouble.
I just do not know this and hope as well here for some knowledge of more experienced PH-expats,

Otherwise your idea would be solid.
Unless she would come with religious stuff (many locals here are pretty godfearing) , then it would be difficult to counter with logic.

I'm willing to bet that there are more than a few black market clinics there there that do illegal abortions. I bet she even has a friend of a friend that knows one or had it done. Maybe you can ask around.

I hate the fact that I'm condoning this, but you know how these SEA countries are.

Man of course there are many many places which could do the job and I even know some of them myself.
That is not my worry.
My cncern is... or no, please just read my first reply to you again and I am optimistic that you will figure it out yourself - if not, let me know and I try to make it more clear.

I understand what you mean. Good luck.

(01-16-2016 01:39 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  I sympathize with your problem - I really do. But it seems like this issue comes up on a regular basis, the conversation always goes the same, and it gets a little old.


The frequency of members encountering this stuff doesn't surprise me in the slightest; we are, after all, a forum full of players. What does surprise me, however, is the number of grown men choosing to live this lifestyle not having already considered exactly what they'll do when some broad cries (usually falsely) pregnancy.

And having to turn to the board for personal advice when it does happen as if it's some unique scenario.

It is for sure not an unique scenario in SEA, but in fact at least for me (I never did claim that I am a full expert at this matter), usually women who do that either just wanna attention, but within the convo it also will become very clear (more clear than here) that she is not pregnant.
But especially also many women want potentially that you pay for her abortion because one of her many fuckers did make her pregnant,
But in this case, she absolutely does not want to abort, which does not fit into the general pattern and hence I in fact came here for some insights from people who have on this matter more experience than me.

I too highly value the knowledge and support of the forum, but when I went through these things, I just dealt with the situation best as I saw fit. There's nothing the forum can tell me about this issue better than I can tell myself. I mean, do you really think anyone here is going to tell you anything you haven't thought of yourself or that you wouldn't be better off discovering through a simple Google search? In the end, you can only decide how to respond anyhow.

I came here especially for some insights on potential legal consequences in the Phils which is n fact not too easy to figure out via a simple google search or by asking around in expat forums.
I mean, I have put some concrete questions on the usual legal procedre from authorities and how it is regards to the law in the Phils - if you are able to answer them I would highly appreciate it - I am not.
I for myself made already a decision for the total worst case which I hope will not happen.
I can only say that men get always told regards to the social conditioning stuff like ''you must take the responsibility and stuff''. but in my opinion also the women has here responsibility.
And I think that in such a situation a woman should also realize that a random ONS is not an optimal situation to put a child into this world and take the options which are possible in today's world.
So I guess you should get the idea of my decision on this one.
For sure I will not let ruin my life by a random ONS which seems to act now quite unreasonable.



And when it comes to legal concerns, surely a lawyer (or even a local hustler) is going to have more accurate info for you on that than any of us. All we have is conjecture.

I agree with you partially because due to many expats (I do not claim that this is right) hiring a lawyer is usually as well not a safe bet for expats... there are many stories outside, but you know this yourself.
I just wanted to try my luck here because indifferent to other places at least here men would sympathize (well, at least some men) with such an issue (imagine I would talk about such a topic somewhere else - in bluepilled areas) -> who knows, maybe such a man would in accident know stuff about legal consequences (from his own experience, experience which friends of him made, maybe he has a local friend who is a lawyer, etc.) and would not mind to share here his knowledge.
It was just an attempt by me.
But yeah, if that is not the case, then nevermind and I stop distracting this thread and hope for the best combined with checking out my options.


As shocking as these moments can be on a personal level, this is still a very basic life challenge and bound to happen sooner or later, especially (on the side of falseties for the sake of trapping you) in a poor country where guys with money go to find easy sex.

agree as said, with this one.

Worst case scenario is you have a baby you didn't want to have, and you know what, that's part of life. I mean, do we need to create a downloadable pdf for the forum (alongside all the various threads about it) outlining the steps a man should take (they are the same no matter how many details you give us) if a girl calls him to say she's pregnant?

I think in this case there are more, but I think that is not the right place to discuss them.


We can't bang these girls for you, we can't put your rubber on for you, and we can't tell you how to talk her into an abortion or figure out if she's even telling the truth. Some things in life a man just has to face on his own.

I did not request any of it, but with your logic it seems that a place where men can exchange ideas, strategies, insights, knowledge, just experiences is almost redundant in 99% of all cases, because in fact 99% of all upcoming stuff you can figure yourself out on your own at a 100% ratio.
But asking for an exchange might still have the benefit to speed things up.
I do not see this aspect so negative and dramatic like you to be honest.


In any case, the issue has been discussed at length here on the forum as well as in many other SEA expat forums.

Since I just harped on you, I'll go ahead and give my take anyways. My gut feeling is it's just another girl shit-testing you to see how you'll react or trying to get some money out of you. It's common knowledge this thing happens all the time here, which is why every other single reader will have the same gut feeling, and you indicated you know as much already in your post.

Thanks so far, really appreciate it.
Just as said, at least from my experience the pattern is slight different here.
Still I think and hope that the probability of a shittest is high.

I'd just ignore her for a while; if it's real and she truly believes it's yours, trust me, she won't stop getting in touch anytime soon. If you want to know what your rights are, talk to a local attorney.

Yeah, that sounds like a good starting point - will try to figure out some valid options for a solid local attorney.

You can get abortions here, but I can't comment on the legality or the severity of the punishment - I'm against them on a moral level, myself, but that's beside the point.

I just really want to throw in that you hold here your personal moral opinions back - not kidding, I perceive this as kind of a strong act regards to which most people are not capable and feel a strong urge to project their own ideas, values, personal ethics on the ones of other people.
So thumbs up for this one!

I guess the real point is that it's a legal issue and the guys here can't be responsible for giving you advice that might backfire.

You're already here with your boots on the ground; if the problem doesn't go away you're just going to have to do some homework.

EDIT: The vasectomy bluff may be a good move. At the very least, you may get a decent read on how she reacts to that.

Yeah, hoped so - but she pretty much did just ignore it ( I have brought it up several times) and has continued to claim that she would be pregnant.

Ok,thanks then for your post and your insights.
And I would appreciate if we all can let it be at this point, because I agree with you that finally it is my thing and the chance that anyone has really some concrete input on the law stuff is very small.

So I will handle it myself, have nothing more to add and hence please back to the fun-stuff about the Philippines


Regards,
Highlander

Abortion is a major taboo in Phil. Even bringing up the subject to a girl can be seen as offensive. There's a saying about the Philippines: "They spent 300 years in the convent, and 50 years in Hollywood." Meaning, during the hundreds of years-long era under the Spanish, the Catholic church exerted a tremendous influence on the way of life and general attitudes there. To say it is a Catholic country is an understatement. They're perhaps the only country in the world that doesn't practice nominal divorce (though annulments are allowed in practice), so that should give you an idea as to what their views on abortion are. I've heard of people being shunned by their family and friends for doing it. Most girls there are simply never going to entertain the idea of an abortion. Something you need to keep in mind before rawdogging these chicks.

The story of the girl sounds pretty questionable from what you've described. If she's going out to clubs, doing SNLs, and friending up tons of westerners, you're certainly not the only one. If she is pregnant, you're likely not the only one she's reached out to. If you eat a can of beans, how do you know which one made you fart?

It's relatively common for women in SEA to claim pregnancy to secure commitment and resources in general, even. Sometimes they do it to scare away other girls "I'm pregnant with his baby, leave us alone." Let her know you're going to be doing a paternity test after the birth. If it's not yours, I expect she would realize you can't have the wool pulled over your eyes, and drift away. On the off chance it is yours, she will be in touch.

As far as the laws go, BB is right, you really should be seeking advice from a professional attorney, not an internet forum. I will say that I've gotten the impression that things are pretty lax regarding child support and family law compared to the west. I simply don't think the law enforcement or the courts have the resources or the inclination to police things the way they do in the west. There are many single moms there, and its rare that the father is helping out. From what I've heard, the mom gets custody by default, but will lose custody if she gets pregnant again while she's unmarried. But considering the circumstances, you really should get professional counsel on this.

Highlander, I apologize if it seems I was over prickly or hard on you for an issue that's bound to come up, and I appreciate your attempt at not getting over defensive.

For me, the pregnancy thing is similar to if I wake up tomorrow and find a bump on my shlong. Given that people have been telling us our entire lives how to deal with stds and there are public services available to deal with such things in any country you go to, I guess I just wouldn't see the sense of turning to the forum for help when I can just take action, whether through a hard conversation, a little self study, or a visit to a doc.

Get what I mean? Those types of posts seem dramatic and unproductive to me.

I guess I feel like some things can only be dealt with by, well, digging your hands in and dealing with them, and a girl pulling the pregnancy card on you is one of those things. That's my take, anyhow.

I'll try to be a little more understanding and not nominate myself as unofficial moderator, though. If guys are answering you, feel free to discuss, I suppose.

Don't worry about it she's a liar/scammer and here's a few inconsistencies in her story.

(01-16-2016 12:47 PM)Highlander Wrote:  About 2 months ago I have banged a woman which I have met in a club. (she was visiting cebu, but actually is living in manila)
First meet -> same night lay, so I think she is not a holy girl...+ obviously she has tons of other foreign dudes in her friendlist on FB.

Out of the dozens of foreign guys she rotates with on her FB/friendlist you're the one who happened to get her pregnant while you were using a condom? Even with a burst condom it's extremely unlikely. I'm sure there's tons of guys who rawdog her in manila. Red flag #1

Quote:Today she texts me on FB suddenly (no contact anymore since then) that she hates me and I had impragnated her.
And she acts like crazy and do not wanna get an abortion as well.

Girls who start with this "I hate you" shit are seeking drama and trying to guilt trip you. Red flag #2

Quote:- I almost never post something on my startingpage on FB (like every 4 months once inspiring quote or something like that).
Yesterday night I in fact have posted since many months the forst time something on my startingpage and only few hours after it she contacts me?

She saw you just happened to be active online and decided to spin a bit of drama. Low impulse control and sees an opportunity. Opportunistic liar. Red flag #3

Quote:- At first she only said that her period is not coming.
Only once I have asked her later in the convo if she has made already a pregnancy test, she has insisted that she did so - why not telling me such a major factor at the beginning?

Story changes from "missed period" to a more severe "pregnancy test came back positive!" during the same convo? Red flag #4 If she had a test already she would have told you that right off the bat.

Quote:Within the second convo we had few hours later, I have asked here again about if she really did a pregnancy test and she has posted to m a picture from a positive tested test withing a speed which was so fast, that a human being cannot make so quick a pic and send it - it was within 5 seconds at most. Like if it was prepared already or maybe even sent already to some other dudes..

Check out the geodata and time/date stamp on the pic. Bet it doesn't make sense if she's as dumb as I think she is. If she's a bit smarter she would have altered it. Red flag #5

Quote:"your didn't accept this. Don't bother me again. I never expected that you tell me that. "
or
"I never force you to accept it I just tell you the truth. I am not crazy to say this"

No substance guilt tripping and drama whoring. Red flag #6

This is one (if not the most important) reason you don't add girls you SNL to Facebook in SEA.

(01-14-2016 07:41 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  I got the impression that Koreans tend to look down on Filipinos, and since many Westerners come over exclusively to sleep with Filipinas, sleeping with a Westerner is a loss of face for a Korean girl.

That's an understatement. It's not unusual for East Asians to view Filipinos as sub-human. If you could only hear half of the stuff spoken in Korean, Chinese, and Japanese (in that order).

And Westerners who show these girls affection are placed in the same lot. Fucking and showing affection are two different things. Walking around holding hands with these girls, buying them gifts, spending money on them, public displays of affection - with a Pinay, in front of East Asians, is a DLV to yourself.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just telling you what they think.

Highlander,

I've had a couple of similar/related experiences in PI that may help you:
1. Exactly the same as you, had sex (didn't use a condom, but I HAVE had a vasectomy). She claimed pregnancy (clearly lying her ass off). I was still in the same city, so I told her to come over and we'd talk. She came over the next day, I boned her, then told her, "get dressed. We're going out." I had the taxi drive to an OBGYN's office that MY DOCTOR had recommended. She refused to come in with me. At that point, I made it clear that I had had a vasectomy and was not going to be scammed. Gave her taxi money and sent her on her way. I've seen her once since then and have also banged her sister.

2. Banged a woman from online pipeline. About three hours later she started texting about a house fire in her neighborhood and needing some money. When I didn't bother to answer for 24 hours, she called and I answered. She started in with the "I hate you shit" and "You didn't know it but I taped us with my iPhone and I'm going to send copies to all your facebook friends." I was quite sure she was bullshitting but definitely had that 1% nagging "what if?" feeling. In this case, there was nothing to talk about. I blocked her and reported her on Facebook. Deleted her in my phone. End of problem.

In your case, considering the "I hate you" approach. (perhaps someone more perceptive about motivations can explain why Pinays do this so often), I'm sure she is not really pregnant. If you want to assuage your conscience, then offer to go to Manila and take her to the doctor. Make it VERY clear that there will be NO MONEY until you've gone TOGETHER to a OBGYN of your choosing. When she refuses, block/delete/report her. Problem solved.

If she says, "OK, let's go". Then you're gonna need to get a paternity test. I dont' know the legal situation exactly, but I have a GF who was able to force her deadbeat baby daddy to pay her or risk going to jail if he ever came back to his hometown. So, there ARE some legal downsides.

Abortion is a non-starter in the Phills. I've been involved with a 13 year-old that got knocked up by an uncle and a 14 year-old that got knocked up by a 13 year-old. In both cases, NO ONE was willing to even CONSIDER/DISCUSS abortion. Babies are considered BLESSINGS, no matter what the situation around the conception.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

(01-16-2016 11:14 PM)Dagnasty Wrote:  

(01-14-2016 07:41 PM)thoughtgypsy Wrote:  I got the impression that Koreans tend to look down on Filipinos, and since many Westerners come over exclusively to sleep with Filipinas, sleeping with a Westerner is a loss of face for a Korean girl.

That's an understatement. It's not unusual for East Asians to view Filipinos as sub-human. If you could only hear half of the stuff spoken in Korean, Chinese, and Japanese (in that order).

And Westerners who show these girls affection are placed in the same lot. Fucking and showing affection are two different things. Walking around holding hands with these girls, buying them gifts, spending money on them, public displays of affection - with a Pinay, in front of East Asians, is a DLV to yourself.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, I'm just telling you what they think.

I wouldn't say subhuman but the stereotype is "low class" but it also depends on the class background of the Filipino in question. A lot of NE Asians will get on their high horse in private conversation when it comes to SE Asians but on an individual level it's a different story.

Someone who looks and acts proper will be treated as such. A filipino abroad in NE who handles themselves well and obviously isn't a peasant will be treated neutral and like everyone else.

If a person looks and acts ghetto then they will automatically get grouped into the worst stereotypes of their nationality.

Classism is far stronger when it comes to these things. I know plenty of middle to upper middle class filipinos who jump between asian countries too. They don't get treated badly at all. No one can tell the difference anyhow and when it's brought up noone cares because they obviously don't fit into the general stereotype.

However, if someone looks like someone from the underclass ie. housemaid, laborer farmer, or ho and acts like one they will get looked down on in Northeast asia.

Remember there's plenty of ethnic Chinese filipinos too.