I did not go to the Fort last time, because, well...Traffic issues you mentioned. First time I went to Sugi there was some senator next to us, the second time we got the Tatami room to ourselves.

I did do The Spa, I did this one I think:
http://www.thespa.com.ph/service/mind-and-body-flow/

which is kind of just a massage that feels good with a lot of light pressure. Random powders and then they drip oil on your temple, its hard not to fall asleep and smells so good.

I swore I got one with two girls massaging me at the same time though. If you are going to The Spa, you should really shower there, they have really awesome rain showers, a room to kick it in, hot and cold pools, etc that you use BEFORE you shower.

(01-20-2016 03:31 PM)DVY Wrote:  Ill throw up a data sheet on how I lock down a city in 72 hrs.

That would be fantastic, you seem to have your shit together.

Are you suiting up in Manila?

As for sushi I remember there's a place on high-street that was decent. I don't recall the name though.

Fisto has msgd me about me not being correct and he is absolutely right. I have left certain details out for privacy reasons.

There are certain subtleties in behavior that I know from living in Asia that allow me to get away w/more and also because I look like half-Asian I can more easily assimilate. That is about as much detail as I want to get into for now until I get closer to the end of my trip.

I will throw up a detailed sheet up when I get further into my trip, because last time I was detailing my Taipei trip I got spotted out and about by some random who was reading RVF.

Thats not exactly what I want because I do value my anonymity somewhat. I don't want to be that easily traceable.

(01-16-2016 12:47 PM)Highlander Wrote:  -snip-

Today she texts me on FB suddenly (no contact anymore since then) that she hates me and I had impragnated her.
And she acts like crazy and do not wanna get an abortion as well.

I have thought she is bluffing and told I had a vascectomy 2 years ago
(this is a rebluff from me and is not true).

-snip-

This exact same shit is happening to me right now. She says she's late 9 days. I did it raw dog but pulled out well ahead of time so I don't think it's me. Anyway she wants me to fly over from halfway across the world so I can hold her hand while she's off to the OB clinic to get tested. Or at least wire her money.

I did a fair amount of raw dogging in my life, there has been quite a lot of times where I couldn't pull out in time yet the only time I got a girl pregnant was when I busted load after load deep inside her for 3 days straight. I don't think this chick is pregnant at all.

Good call on the re-bluff, thanks, I used it too.

I'll keep you updated on how it goes, anyway how is your situation going?

Hit the Spa (funny enough my phil friend from last night also recommended it).

Paid 1900 pesos for a standard massage in a private room. It was awesome. Just what I needed. My shower and neck pain from airplane trip is gone. Always get this nagging shoulder neck pain after long trips. I swear the plane seats are made for tiny Asian people.

I didn't have enough time to get a facial or eye mask treatment but will probably return tmrrw.

I'd be really impressed if you can get your way into a private party at Malacanang Palace. Apparently the disco inside was converted under Arroyo's reign, but I'd be curious to know for sure.

I paid exactly zero dollars cover tonight but I did spend about 3-4k pesos in drinks at various spots at the Valkyrie/pool complex.

Total $ spent tonight is around 1800 for massage, 200 for ubers, 2k for dinner/drinks, 3-4k pesos at the Valkyrie/pool Rveal complex. So running about 8-10k pesos a day, but Im eating good and splashing drinks.

Stupid $ by phils standards but wtvr vacation.

(01-21-2016 03:49 PM)DVY Wrote:  I paid exactly zero dollars cover tonight but I did spend about 3-4k pesos in drinks at various spots at the Valkyrie/pool complex.

Total $ spent tonight is around 1800 for massage, 200 for ubers, 2k for dinner/drinks, 3-4k pesos at the Valkyrie/pool Rveal complex. So running about 8-10k pesos a day, but Im eating good and splashing drinks.

Stupid $ by phils standards but wtvr vacation.

8-10k pesos a day in Manila?! Really throwing your money at bottle rats at the palace is a poor call. You can do the exact same thing in a 2nd tier American / European City.

Same crowd day in and day out. Stick to online.

(01-21-2016 07:01 PM)Putin Closes Wrote:  

(01-21-2016 03:49 PM)DVY Wrote:  I paid exactly zero dollars cover tonight but I did spend about 3-4k pesos in drinks at various spots at the Valkyrie/pool complex.

Total $ spent tonight is around 1800 for massage, 200 for ubers, 2k for dinner/drinks, 3-4k pesos at the Valkyrie/pool Rveal complex. So running about 8-10k pesos a day, but Im eating good and splashing drinks.

Stupid $ by phils standards but wtvr vacation.

8-10k pesos a day in Manila?! Really throwing your money at bottle rats at the palace is a poor call. You can do the exact same thing in a 2nd tier American / European City.

Same crowd day in and day out. Stick to online.

He's on vacation, what is going to do, surf online in his hotel room all day? Eat at the mall food court? Looks like he's spending more for access to luxury, relaxation, not penny pinching and having an elevated experience rather than just throwing money at bottle rats.

(01-21-2016 05:04 AM)DVY Wrote:  There is no reason whatsoever for me to get a bottle. I like going to the bar and macking girls on the semi-sly. Predator style.

You may know this already, but for those who don't...if you're going to be a semi-regular you can buy a bottle and have them store the unused portion behind the bar with your name on it for the next time you come back. At least the guys who I hung out with at Prive and other places were able to do this. They had bottles with their names on it at every spot we went to.

This concept blew me away in the Phil because I've never seen it done in the States, at least not in the local pubs I frequented.

If I remember right a bottle of Jack Daniels at Prive was only 4,500 pesos (about $75). That's an amazing value, enough to share, and shows you are a regular.

I was taken aback about your statement of spending 1/2 months salary in a night. For some people that's quite a sum of money and I don't think you need to go overboard throwing cash around to befriend top political leaders/businessmen. You can do that by just being an interesting guy that's enjoyable to talk with. No extra cash required. That was my experience at least, and from what I've read BB's and other's as well.

But there's nothing wrong with living large and enjoying the finer things in life. In fact, it's a helluva lot of fun. Looking forward to reading your posts.

If your here for r&r and not try and pick up girls I'd take the first flight out of manila and head to the beaches.

10000 pesos a day is just silly money. Maybe I'm too frugal to consider this a worthwhile expense.

If anyone has any actual experience pulling regularly top tier girls from the palace feel free to chip in.

It's one big smoke show.

10k pesos a day in the phils may be over the top, but hey it's his money, it's his vacation, and he's going to enjoy it. Counting every last peso that leaves your wallet is a surefire way to ruin a vacation.

^ With these amounts of money thrown around, I would just target the top tier gold diggers, the kind of pussy that you can't reach any other way. The Russia/Ukraine style oligarch game.

Get some pussy that us peasants only dream if you got cash and willing to spend it.

You guys are way overestimating how much money 8k to 10k pesos really is.

We are only talking $150 to $200. That's decent cash, but it isn't anything crazy. It isn't "baller status" by any means, unless you're being judged by poor Filipinos.

If Manila is anything like BKK, that isn't the kind of money that anyone is even going to notice if you're at a halfway decent club or bar. That's like two bottles. Half the tables in the club have two bottles. I've seen Thai girls whip out their dads credit card and pay for two bottles of Jack and it isn't a big deal.

It definitely isn't enough to target the "top tier gold digger pussy". You want that tier of girls? Pull up in your Ferrari.

^ Understood, my general point was that if he's already spending, he may get more return on investment if he actually goes all out with it, playing the 'minigrach' game, not being subtle about it.

He won't get the top 0.1% of girls, but he'll get higher caliber than the way he's supposedly doing it now which gets him much less noticed (as you just mentioned).

If however flaunting status is not in the equation and it's just buying $100 bottles "for fun", then I can't argue with that, to each his own pastime activities.

Whenever I got bottles at clubs in Asia (Thailand, Indo, Phils), I got so fucking wasted that I would have been better off not paying for bottles. At least some of my buddies got lays/numbers out of it a couple of times so It didn't all go to waste.

OK I didn't expect this reaction but I am only drinking expensive white tequila or vodka. Its not really that over the top. Im getting 270 peso jambo juice, then a 200 peso matcha slushie, then a 1500 peso lunch.

Plus thats about what I spend in LA anyways going out (counting ubers, food, drinks, logistics blah blah blah). I can afford it...maybe I can meet somebody interesting or sexy. Its one of those things. I don't really penny pinch on sh-t like this. I met a group of guys in charge of doing inspections for PEZA. We had a good talk.

Each drink is 450-500 pesos, sodas are 150, waters are 100 at the club.

I spent 2k pesos at a mid-level mexican restaurant each time I go. Had a patron sampler (litte under 1k pesos), margarita with patron silver (300 pesos or so) and couple bites of food.

I am far from big baller status (trust me LA is way worse), but I am splashing around. People notice it. You'd be surprised at what people see.

I had one round of drinks cost me about 1k pesos (ciroc/grey goose and 2 JW blacks), and there is now way in hell I am going to buy a bottle for myself. Thats just nuts on my liver. Id rather pay each time to limit my drinking here.

I am getting a lot more shit comped tho, so my spending will naturally come down. Didn't pay any covers last night and probably got about 5-7 JW Gold or Green poured free. This is after 1 night keep in mind.

I am also getting a feel for who is a bottle rat and who isn't.

Security knows me by name. Hes also agreed to waive me through any and all lines and allow me access to any parts of the clubs I want. Introduced me to the top promoters here/DJ.

Im talking to girls and busboys and managers come up to say hi to me. It makes a difference in the club experience. It elevates your status. It also not just $, it allows you to navigate better. To feel more comfortable. I have security guards bringing me girls last night. Id point and he'd go grab her. Some lols. I show lots of respect from high to low. Say thank you to everybody. Its really the small things in life that make people like you.

I pull excellent tail in LA too. Ive just built a lifestyle there that streamlines girls into my orbit. I get comped a lot of restaurants (tips only) or food payments only. I get comped covers. Skip 1 hr lines. Free ins and outs. Small stuff but for a normal girl its just awe inspiring. Build a lifestyle that naturally pulls people in. If you saw how I roll in LA and didn't know what was up, you'd think I was spending thousands of dollars/night. Its all an illusion based on the potential willingness to spend.

It takes $ and time to build up then it becomes like you. I estimate if I get into the swing of things I can have all the top spots locked down and Ill be spending about 2-3k pesos night drinking high-end stuff which is about right for here. Your costs drop about 50-75% after they recognize you because you get free pours, comped covers, etc.

On a side note, I still haven't pulled anything from the clubs yet but I feel like I get so close and then poof I hit a wall and the girl shuts down. She into me then her Asian face thing kicks in and the guard goes back up.

I don't know. Kind of rambling thoughts flowing out. There is a logic to my madness. The person in the club most likely to get comped is the one who needs it the least. Funny how that is similar to game and yet here we are having this back and forth.

DVY, seems like you're making a movie out there haha. Definitely look forward to reading your adventures. How long you plan to be out in the Phils?

DVY, it's great that you share your adventures but you seem to mention the price tag of everything you do. And it's always a tad higher than average.

As people normally don't write this way, it ends up sounding like "hey guys, I have money. Did I mention I have money?".

In any case enjoy your vacation

Where are you getting comped drinks DVY....fair play to you on this as even the likes of Anne Curtis, Dingdong Dantes, Tim Yap, Derek Ramsey to name a few have to get the peso out their pocket in the high end gaffs!

(01-21-2016 11:02 PM)DVY Wrote:  On a side note, I still haven't pulled anything from the clubs yet but I feel like I get so close and then poof I hit a wall and the girl shuts down. She into me then her Asian face thing kicks in and the guard goes back up.

This little side note is interesting. Do you have any guesses why you think this is happening?

Hes spending $200 USD a day on short vacation...

Thats hardly mindblowing...Sounds like hes more than getting his monies worth. Nothing wrong with that. The massages seemed quite expensive to me for a 3rd world country but other than that nothing out of the ordinary.

Hes probably going to venues where the girls are tougher because they consider themselves higher value

I talk about $ not to brag but to show an accurateportrayal of how life is.

It's really no big deal tbh. I don't know anywhere where premium drinks are less than $6-7 each.

My meals are pricey but I'm eating in the tourist area. Or do you think it's better for me to take a 45 min cab ride out of the fort to save $10 which is basically 3-4 miles

I really don't get it.

Why is that so Mindboggling. 90 min massage for $40 usd

(01-21-2016 08:55 PM)Malo Wrote:  ^ With these amounts of money thrown around, I would just target the top tier gold diggers, the kind of pussy that you can't reach any other way. The Russia/Ukraine style oligarch game.

Get some pussy that us peasants only dream if you got cash and willing to spend it.

You can't be serious....



EDIT: I'm guessing I completely missed the sarcasm yet again. I need to take a trip back home to go retrieve my American sense of humor. Must have left it in my momma's garage with the rest of my shit. Surely you were having a piss.

(01-21-2016 11:02 PM)DVY Wrote:  Ive just built a lifestyle there that streamlines girls into my orbit. I get comped a lot of restaurants (tips only) or food payments only. I get comped covers. Skip 1 hr lines. Free ins and outs. Small stuff but for a normal girl its just awe inspiring. Build a lifestyle that naturally pulls people in. If you saw how I roll in LA and didn't know what was up, you'd think I was spending thousands of dollars/night. Its all an illusion based on the potential willingness to spend.

Do you have a datasheet on how this works? Is it kind of like an accumulated favour-giving process? I'm not familiar with the idea of lifestyle being something you "build" instead of "do".