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RaccoonFace · 2016-06-15 08:45:00 · #34230
Russia isn't our "enemy" though, that's Neocon-speak. RT is probably the same as CNN in terms of bias, though I must admit that I haven't watched it that much.
MiscBrah · 2016-06-15 08:54:00 · #34231
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RaccoonFace · 2016-06-15 09:10:00 · #34232
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Mr. Wolf · 2016-06-15 10:40:00 · #34233
DD, you're correct on all the below. But what's more interesting, I think, is that Reuters has been regularly polling the following question: “The United States should temporarily stop all Muslims from entering the United States.” That's a complete and total Muslim ban (not based on geography, as Trump's is). Now 50% of voters favor that ban, only 42% oppose, a 22% swing since May 1. That's why Barry and Shrillery are freaking out, and the MM is abetting their lies.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...uslims-us/

In the wake of the terrorist attack in Orlando, 50 percent of likely voters now support a temporary halt on Muslim entry into the United States. Just 42 percent of likely voters oppose a temporary ban.

That suggested policy is a much harder line than the temporary ban on Muslim immigration, or the long-term ban on immigration from countries with a history of radical Islam, that have been proposed by GOP candidate Donald Trump.

The finding represents a 22-point swing since the beginning of the month. At the end of May, just 40 percent of likely voters supported a halt, while 54 percent opposed one.

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The Reuters survey, it should be noted, is based on a rolling average over the last 5 days. Even though Tuesday’s average shows a surge in support for a ban, most of the interviews on the question were conducted before the Orlando terrorist attacks. This suggests that support for the ban will rising over the coming days as more interviews conducted after news of the attack are included in the rolling average.

In the survey, voters were asked whether or not they agreed with this statement: “The United States should temporarily stop all Muslims from entering the United States.”

Since Reuters first started asking this question in early May, voter sentiment as been fairly evenly divided on the proposal. The week before the terrorist attack, however, public attitudes started to shift against the temporary ban. In addition to the expected opposition from leading Democrats, many leading Republicans, including House Speaker Paul Ryan, had argued against a ban. That trend has been reversed in the wake of the Orlando attack.

In a campaign speech in the immediate aftermath of the Orlando attack, presumptive GOP nominee Trump reiterated his call for a temporary ban, but modified it by saying that immigration should be curbed from countries with a history is Islamic radicalism.

He also focused his criticism more directly on the Obama Administration’s lax enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws. He specifically slammed a proposal by presumptive Democrat nominee Hillary Clinton to greatly expand the number of Muslim immigrants admitted into the country.

PolitiFact, a news site that ordinarily tries to rebuff conservative attacks on the left, admitted that Clinton’s proposal would dramatically increase the number of Muslim immigrants and refugees admitted into the US. Politifact noted, though, that the screening process to accept refugees ordinarily takes 18-24 months, suggesting that the US would be able to maintain national security under Clinton’s proposal.

The site did not mention, however, that the Obama Administration has recently cut the screening time for refugees from the Middle East to just 3 months.

If support for an outright temporary ban on all Muslim immigration is surging, one can imagine voters would overwhelmingly support efforts to at least increase screening of immigrant hopefuls. Even many of those voters who oppose a complete ban would likely not support expanding Muslim immigration in the wake of the Orlando attacks.

British politician Harold MacMillan was reportedly once asked what could blow his government’s plans off course. “Events, my dear boy, events,” he is alleged to have anwered.

The same is true of political campaigns.

(06-14-2016 06:56 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  The Romney sidekick total CUCKservative Ryan is a complete piece of work - in no way did Trump suggest a ban against Muslims yesterday what he said verbatim was:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-relea...l-security

The immigration laws of the United States give the President the power to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons that the President deems detrimental to the interests or security of the United States, as he deems appropriate.

I will use this power to protect the American people. When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats.

After a full, impartial and long overdue security assessment, we will develop a responsible immigration policy that serves the interests and values of America.

We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.

Many of the principles of Radical Islam are incompatible with Western values and institutions.

Radical Islam is anti-woman, anti-gay and anti-American.

I refuse to allow America to become a place where gay people, Christian people, and Jewish people, are the targets of persecution and intimidation by Radical Islamic preachers of hate and violence.

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What Trump did do is emphasize the clear and present danger threats posed by Radical Islamic Terrorism and Obama and Clinton's complete lack of action against these threats - worse the FBI admits that there are many Radical Islamist cells operating in Florida with over 900+ active ISIS investigations in all 50 states and the media insists Trump "has doubled down on wanting to ban all Muslims".

Time to keep a list of Cucks in the book of which GOP members in the House and Senate to Keep and which to replace Taxed Enough Already TEA party style.
crazyfingers · 2016-06-15 12:03:00 · #34234
Funny thing is that he didn't even use an AR15 it was a different kind of rifle, the Sig Sauer MCX which is made by a German company. Pic attached


MSM wants to be able to blame this on the US arms industry so they mislabel it as an AR15. What's really shameful is that the Democrats are not actually trying to disarm people, they are just pretending to make an effort to, in order to satisfy their retarded base and more importantly to offer an alternative 'solution' to these terrorist attacks that doesn't contradict their SJW bullshit or hurt anyone's feelings. Yes Obama of course the guy who celebrated 9/11 and openly supported literally every radical Islamic group that has ever existed was just a troubled individual. Seeing the evidence coming out now its obvious that this was easier to prevent than the twin towers.

Honestly I feel just a little bad for Obama, now he can no longer blame George Bush for the turmoil our country is in. Fitting that it happened at the end of his 8 years, ensuring the utter bullshit of his 'change' campaign came full circle.

Bonus: Terrorist's dad visiting Ramrod's office

https://twitter.com/portosj81j/status/74...7015485440
redonion · 2016-06-15 12:49:00 · #34235
Twitter just automatically removed me from following both Milo and Mike Cernovich.

Earlier today, twitter shut down ISIS twitter accounts that got hacked with gay porn. This means twitter had been aware of these accounts but did nothing about it.

Now they are blatantly removing followers from two prominent activists that speak against the narrative.

The media (social media included), is very, very rotten.
Gmac · 2016-06-15 12:58:00 · #34236
http://www.newsweek.com/isis-twitter-acc...0300?rx=us

Finally an actual good use of Anonymous' resources.
C-Note · 2016-06-15 13:27:00 · #34237
(06-15-2016 12:49 PM)redonion Wrote:  Twitter just automatically removed me from following both Milo and Mike Cernovich.

Earlier today, twitter shut down ISIS twitter accounts that got hacked with gay porn. This means twitter had been aware of these accounts but did nothing about it.

Now they are blatantly removing followers from two prominent activists that speak against the narrative.

The media (social media included), is very, very rotten.

It appears that Milo and perhaps Cernovich were reported by multiple users for spamming, which kicked in an automated response that shadow-banned their accounts. Both accounts appear to now be back up in full operation.

If this is what happened, it's not likely a treacherous plot by Twitter's administrators, but instead some SJWs trying to work the app's system to silence these two.
greekgod · 2016-06-15 13:35:00 · #34238
Milo & Gavin going live @ Pulse

This is going to make waves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLqkizGtFo0
Travesty · 2016-06-15 13:48:00 · #34239
Wow Milo is kicking ass.
Travesty · 2016-06-15 13:53:00 · #34240
Gavin made out with Milo....why? I guess the press coverage is worth it.
Malone · 2016-06-15 13:55:00 · #34241
(06-15-2016 01:53 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Gavin made out with Milo....why? I guess the press coverage is worth it.

It was Gavin's idea earlier - I think he just wanted to fuck with with the Muslims watching.
redonion · 2016-06-15 13:57:00 · #34242
(06-15-2016 01:27 PM)C-Note Wrote:  It appears that Milo and perhaps Cernovich were reported by multiple users for spamming, which kicked in an automated response that shadow-banned their accounts. Both accounts appear to now be back up in full operation.

If this is what happened, it's not likely a treacherous plot by Twitter's administrators, but instead some SJWs trying to work the app's system to silence these two.

I'm not sure of the exact techniques of shadow-banning, but I was unfollowed from both of them. I needed to manually follow them again.
AFS · 2016-06-15 15:47:00 · #34243
(06-15-2016 12:49 PM)redonion Wrote:  Twitter just automatically removed me from following both Milo and Mike Cernovich.

My account was immediately locked down "for suspicious activity" as soon as I started tweeting about Orlando (within 2 minutes of the first tweet going out). With the new EU hate speech laws, and collusion between Facebook, Google, & Twitter to silence opposition to the global elites' plans, things may get a lot worse before they get better.

If they get desperate enough before the election, we may even see thousands of accounts being mass suspended for "hate speech." Honestly I'm hoping they get so blatant about it that a public outcry will ensue and allow new platforms to come forward and take their place.
Canopus · 2016-06-15 16:18:00 · #34244
From The Smoking Gun, this is allegedly the hacked DNC playbook on Trump.

Archive link.

If this is legit, then holy shit, they have nothing.
Laner · 2016-06-15 16:31:00 · #34245
(06-15-2016 04:18 PM)Canopus Wrote:  From The Smoking Gun, this is allegedly the hacked DNC playbook on Trump.

Archive link.

If this is legit, then holy shit, they have nothing.

That's it??

Fire the interns, their extra credit report looks too much like a list of "Best of Trump"

If this is truly all they have its going to be a Democrat Bloodbath
Hannibal · 2016-06-15 16:38:00 · #34246
Does this hold any water or is it just hand wringing?

http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/donald...n-control/

The Libertarian Republic dot com Wrote:Donald Trump Just Flipped On Gun Control
Keith Farrell June 15, 2016 2016 Presidential Race, Right to Bear Arms

Donald Trump has flipped on gun control and is now parroting a liberal policy point that jeopardizes all of our rights. Trump has indicated that he will meet with the NRA about supporting restrictions that would ban anyone on a terrorism watch list from buying firearms.

Here’s the problem — people on watch lists haven’t been charged with a crime, let alone convicted. Perhaps people are not aware, but if we get rid of the Fifth Amendment you may well kiss the Second Amendment goodbye, too.

In a previous piece I argued that stripping rights away from Americans because the government merely suspects you of something is a good way to empower the government to strip all our rights away.

Without due process there is nothing protecting citizens from the arbitrary exercise of power, from state persecution, and from unjust deprivation of their life and liberty. Society either exists under the Rule of Law or the rule of men; the latter being when power is yielded at the whims of those who hold it, with no restraint on their actions. The Rule of Law is what separates a just society from one of authoritarian rule. Justice cannot exist under the rule of men.

Related: Yes, Suspected Terrorists Must Be Allowed to buy Guns

These lists are arbitrary and flawed. The late Senator Ted Kennedy even found himself on such a list once. Furthermore, this proposal Trump is pushing is exactly what anti-gun President Obama wants to do, as I pointed out:

How would Obama accomplish this? The arbitrary, secret, terror watch list. This so-called security measure has been in effect since 2003. The problem is the criteria for being placed on the list is very subjective and flawed. Even posting something on social media that others deem “reasonably suspicious” could land you on the list. In it’s 12 year existence, MANY errors have been made. Last year it was determined over 1.5 million names have been added to the list.

Conservatives that support this have lost their minds. This is giving the federal government power to strip your rights without charge or trial. What happens when some nut shoots up an abortion clinic? What happens when right-wing views are seen as dangerous? Don’t forget the federal government has investigated such affiliations before.

We must not give the government the ability to nullify the Second Amendment by suspending the Fifth. In this country, you cannot have your rights taken from you because your name is on a secret list. Trump’s failure to understand this once again underscores his dangerous disregard for the Rule of Law.



Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/donald...z4BgcfOPbQ
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Handsome Creepy Eel · 2016-06-15 16:48:00 · #34247
"Libertarian Republic" spouting Libertarian Nonsense. No surprise there!
RexImperator · 2016-06-15 16:52:00 · #34248
Quote:Does this hold any water or is it just hand wringing?

I think even a majority of Republican voters would support a ban on firearms purchases for those on the terrorist watch list. The devil is in the details... How you get on/off the list.
Mr. Accuride · 2016-06-15 17:09:00 · #34249
(06-15-2016 04:18 PM)Canopus Wrote:  From The Smoking Gun, this is allegedly the hacked DNC playbook on Trump.

Archive link.

If this is legit, then holy shit, they have nothing.

After reading through this I feel like adding more to my wagers on Trump to wind the presidency, even though I already have him at large multiples from wagering in August.

Honestly, are they even trying to win? After reading each of their points on the negatives of Trump, my response was "Okay, and so what...?"

It's as if they're in an echo chamber, and just high fiving each other after quoting Trump.
Last Parade · 2016-06-15 18:18:00 · #34250
Holy shit that Trump doc. That'll probably make for fun reading.

Scanned the table of contents and I had to look into "Free Stuff":

Quote:“FREE STUFF”
Donald Trump Said, During A Democratic Debate, Hillary Clinton And Bernie Sanders “Couldn’t Give Things Away Fast Enough.” “As Hillary and Bernie Sanders, they just couldn’t give things away fast enough. I watched Hillary last night with, “We’re going to give this, we’re going to give that, we’re going to give that.” The poor woman, she’s got to give everything away ’cause this maniac that was standing on her right is giving everything away. So, she’s following. That’s what’s happening…’Cause you got to win. Cause she’s not doing so well.” [Donald Trump Campaign Rally, Richmond, VA, 10/14/15]

Laughed my ass off. This is opposition research? Against Hillary herself, maybe.

And Trump's badass lawyer:

Quote:“Trump’s lawyer then changed tactics, lobbing insults and threatening a lawsuit if a story was published. ‘I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,’ Cohen said. ‘So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?’ ‘You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up…for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet…you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,’ he added.” [Daily Beast, 7/27/15]

fucking nuked.

way too much effort in that document to not be legit.
Libertas · 2016-06-15 18:28:00 · #34251
(06-15-2016 04:52 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
Quote:Does this hold any water or is it just hand wringing?

I think even a majority of Republican voters would support a ban on firearms purchases for those on the terrorist watch list. The devil is in the details... How you get on/off the list.

Correct.

I support such a ban, but with one caveat.

There needs to be some kind of due process before your name gets placed on those watchlists. It can't be arbitrary. An arbitrary deprivation of your rights was what the revolution was fought over.
spokepoker · 2016-06-15 19:00:00 · #34252
I already knew they had nothing.
What I want to see, is what they are trying to hide about Hillary. I want to see the communications of the DNC leader.
Laner · 2016-06-15 19:43:00 · #34253
Thank you for being so amazingly crazy, Japan.



spokepoker · 2016-06-15 20:05:00 · #34254
Ha wow, that is quite the spectacle.
I liked the robot powered wall.
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