(06-11-2016 09:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, take it easy with the "sky is falling" sentiments. In fact, it was Lizard of Oz who personally predicted a "rollercoaster campaign with many ups and downs, which are to be expected because Trump will be Trump, so there's no reason to get overly excited".

Trump knows what he is doing, and one slightly weaker rally (still orders of magnitude superior to Clinton North Korean committee metings) won't hurt him. Relax and enjoy the ride!

Delete your account.

(06-11-2016 08:28 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Why do hispanics have such a hard on for big government?

Is it because they were cucked by the Spanish?

This could have something to do with it. Compare USA to Mexico.


Of course this is just average IQ and can't be used to used to determine the intelligence of individual Mexicans.

@Lizard of Oz: How long did it take your harem of 823 girls to come up with that?

I lurked this thread a long time bfore registration. Me, I am neutral to politics, I do not care either way about Trump or Hillary.

However my prediction is that for general election, Trump will come out as winner.

The reason?

Self-hating ethnics.

Bernie getting roasted over Cali primary performance.


































Trying to spread this to my favorite Bernie-bots on social media, just for good humor.

Mitt Romney Says a Trump Presidency Will Cause “Trickle Down Racism”

I'm not a fan of being defensive against this type of commentary. It only legitimizes it and encourages more of it. For instance, and I know that people will take the opposite side on this, I think that this tweet was a mistake:

Trump Tweet in response: Don King, and so many other African Americans who know me well and endorsed me, would not have done so if they thought I was a racist!

Also, given that Trump is the presumptive nominee, I suppose that this recent spate of comments from top Republicans means that they are supporting Hillary. At this point, attacking Trump is supporting Hillary and, therefore, it looks like we truly have a three party system moving forward - in all but name as of now.

Congratulations, Trump Nation. Today, the country is a little more honest.

Wow.

That's the first time I've seen Trump buy into someone else's frame in such a major and potentially damaging way.

What the hell is going on these past couple of weeks?

(06-11-2016 09:07 AM)Latinopan Wrote:  

Perhaps the entire nation can eventually unite behind the anti-lumpenprole ticket.

Lumpen-prole - now that's a great word, from lumpen-proletariat, meaning thiefs, beggars, scammers, prostitutes and the like.

"...Lumpenproletariat is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx to describe the layer of the working class that is unlikely ever to achieve class consciousness and is therefore lost to socially useful production, of no use to the revolutionary struggle, and perhaps even an impediment to the realization of a classless society.[1] ..."

(06-11-2016 09:24 AM)Matrixdude Wrote:  Bernie getting roasted over Cali primary performance.





Trying to spread this to my favorite Bernie-bots on social media, just for good humor.

That laugh killed me. 44 seconds well spent.

(06-11-2016 09:25 AM)hydrogonian Wrote:  Trump Tweet in response: Don King, and so many other African Americans who know me well and endorsed me, would not have done so if they thought I was a racist!

This is literally the "but I have black friends!" defense. No matter what the truth of the matter is, people see this reaction as an admission of racism.

It's early still. Trump gotta keep his powder dry. Save his best stuff for this fall.

(06-11-2016 09:07 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(06-11-2016 09:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, take it easy with the "sky is falling" sentiments. In fact, it was Lizard of Oz who personally predicted a "rollercoaster campaign with many ups and downs, which are to be expected because Trump will be Trump, so there's no reason to get overly excited".

Trump knows what he is doing, and one slightly weaker rally (still orders of magnitude superior to Clinton North Korean committee metings) won't hurt him. Relax and enjoy the ride!

Delete your account.

I understand Lizard's criticisms, to be honest - he makes some good points. Donald Trump has yet to fully pivot to general election mode and it's not doing him any favors. While the speech Monday should damage Hillary and I'm sure he's going to really hit her hard - I'd like a stronger focus on issues at the rallies. We need more talk on the Muslim migrant crisis and the chaos it could potentially bring to US soil, the trade deals that destroy our sovereignty and loot the country of millions of jobs, or even the coming economic recession. Trump should be hammering home the fact that our economy is about to implode to shield himself from getting the blame for it should it happen after he gets elected.

I love the attacks on Hillary and I cannot wait for Monday, don't get me wrong. I just think the campaign can use a little more talk on actual policy.

Trump on in TAMPA right now, sounding and looking much sharper and more focused. Talking about the Euro '16 soccer tournament and how it's paralyzed by fear of terrorism. Talking about what is happening right now, not old primaries no one cares about.

(06-11-2016 09:05 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, take it easy with the "sky is falling" sentiments. In fact, it was Lizard of Oz who personally predicted a "rollercoaster campaign with many ups and downs, which are to be expected because Trump will be Trump, so there's no reason to get overly excited".

Trump knows what he is doing, and one slightly weaker rally (still orders of magnitude superior to Clinton North Korean committee metings) won't hurt him. Relax and enjoy the ride!

A good friend several weeks ago gave me a wonderful gift, a book of poetry called "Poems For a Good and Happy Life" by Myrna Reid Grant.

The author chose and divided her literary selections according to the seven cardinal virtues: Wisdom, Justice, Courage, Moderation, Faith, Hope, and Love.

Even after reading the book through several times, as an atheist I just couldn't get into the section on Faith. I've always preferred logic and reason to the idea of, as it seemed to me, choosing to believe in something regardless of how the evidence presents itself (or in many cases, when the evidence stands contrary to what we want to believe).

But as I've been following the Trump campaign, a re-reading of the poems in that section has profoundly shifted the way I look at faith. While many of the poems of course speak to faith in God, one can interpret them just as easily to include faith in oneself, or in those one truly believes in.

I don't know what the future holds for me. I'm a younger guy, and while I like to think my track record in life thus far is pretty good, I admit there are plenty of unknown challenges that could prove too much for me to handle.

But I don't worry about those. I choose to have faith in my ability to tackle whatever life throws my way. I believe in myself, my dedication to my goals, my will to succeed no matter how improbable success might seem.

Likewise, I believe in Donald Trump. I believe he loves this country, and its people, and will do whatever it takes to win.

I believe in the essence of who he is as a person, and I have faith that he will destroy the dark, foul essence that is Hillary Clinton. The worldly permutations of these essences may differ day by day, week by week, news cycle by news cycle, but I have faith that light shall triumph over darkness, whatever temporal forms they take in the meantime.

Faith doesn't have to mean mindless following in spite of the evidence. It can mean a deeper belief than hope, a comforting knowledge that comes with an understanding of the world and an acceptance that many things will always remain outside of our control.

Faith calms the spirit in times of distress, serves as its bulwark when the tempests inevitably swirl about, and reminds us that despite having little power to change the course of world events, we will always have the power to change ourselves.

I don't care what the pundits say. I don't care what the polls say. I don't care what the haters say.

I have faith in Donald Trump.

I'll leave you with my favorite piece of the section, the aptly-named "Faith" by S. E. Kiser:

Quote:Faith is not merely praying
Upon your knees at night;
Faith is not merely staying
Through darkness to the light.

Faith is not merely waiting
For glory that will be,
Faith is not merely hating
The sinful ecstasy.

Faith is the brave endeavor
The splendid enterprise,
The strength to serve, whatever
Conditions may arise.

(06-11-2016 11:10 AM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  Trump on in TAMPA right now, sounding and looking much sharper and more focused. Talking about the Euro '16 soccer tournament and how it's paralyzed by fear of terrorism. Talking about what is happening right now, not old primaries no one cares about.

His energy and delivery are much better today. Like night and day, pun intended.

Themes still need to be refreshed. Started out strong, now reverting to talking about the primaries. No one wants to hear that shit anymore.

Liz of Oz,

Don't know what you're talking about on the Richmond Rally being a flop last night.

Trump made headlines all day today from that rally:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/11/us/pol...ities.html

^ Also linked from Drudge.

Calling it the worst rally when it makes front page headlines seems like you're the one being discredited, not Trump. It's like saying a man has weak game in spite of the fact he got the same night lay. It wasn't his *BEST* rally, but who cares? This is the Donald Trump show. Not every TV episode is a blockbuster, a lot of them are filler. And if Trump's filler episodes still get front page headlines, that means he's running circles around the competition.

Trump is taking his time moving into the General. He's a master salesmen, and we are students. I think a lot of people here need to humble themselves and study the master.

Liz you strike me as the young guy who wants to get the bang and blows his load as soon as the girl takes her clothes off. Trump meanwhile is still flirting with his eventual lay, building up prospects for later in the week by flirting with other girls in the bar, and when he gets her back to the bedroom he's going to be doing long powerful strokes and make her cum hard multiple times before blowing his load.

I agree with Hotwheels here. Study sales fellas... it will help you get laid too.

Also, on Trump's handling of racism - he has to address these bullshit claims because it's coming from his fellow "Republicans." Sucks to have such shitty allies backstabbing you. Hopefully Trump can purge these assholes soon.

Which part of the sales funnel includes making needless distractions that take away from the message and don't contribute to closing?

Hotwheels? Maybe you can elaborate, but you haven't contributed more than snarky one liners in at least a year.

Come on. Guys need to stop telling themselves that everything Trump does is "all part of the plan". In fact, planning is the weakest part of the campaign, especially right now.

Trump is a great businessman, but he is far from perfect in this game and does make regular mistakes.

Do they ultimately hurt him? Maybe not.

The point is they don't have to be made, and more importantly don't add votes.

Trump isn't helped by people constantly patting him on the back and pretending every misstep is really some premeditated plan.

Samseau, that rally was terrible, no two ways about it. People were just shaking their heads. And the main way it made headlines was that the venue was almost totally empty. That's the campaign's fuck-up for booking a huge venue at the last minute but it doesn't matter.



Nothing saps the crowd energy more than an almost completely empty venue. You want to talk about sales, well that's a pretty basic point.

Trump was MUCH better today in terms of delivery but he needs to get better yet. He wasted way too much time talking about the primaries, the debates, etc. No one fucking cares. You could feel the energy leave the room when he's talking about it.

The BEST thing he did today in Tampa was when he started asking the audience who they like for VP. Someone said Newt and Trump repeated that; someone shouted out Sessions and he repeated that as well. The crowd was LOVING it and this is Trump at his best -- interacting with the crowd, feeding off the crowd, really listening to them, and talking to them about the things they care about right now like the VP pick. It should have gone on even longer. This is what builds rapport and makes people invested in the product -- as long as we're talking sales here.

More of that, more fresh themes of TODAY, more feeding off the crowd. Don't waste time on the past, it's all about the present and the future.

And again, there is no time to just relax. When Trump relaxes too much he gets that fat jowly look and his whole frame sags. When he's energetic and hungry his whole body is transformed and he starts looking like a much younger guy. I've rarely seen a man change so much physically depending on his mood, energy, and level of inspiration. His butler Tony Senecal who knew him well spoke of this too. It's uncanny.

We need to see much much more of the leaner, hungrier and more energetic Trump. There is no time to rest on the primary laurels.

Are Islamic terrorists more motivated to attack before the election to purposely get Trump elected and start direct conflict?

(06-13-2016 08:49 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Are Islamic terrorists more motivated to attack before the election to purposely get Trump elected and start direct conflict?

I'm not so sure they're intelligent enough to try and sway elections. You would think that since Muslims mostly vote Democrat, they would not try to do these attacks.

Much more likely is that ISIS is willing to use any incident with Muslims in western countries as a way to increase publicity and attract more members. They claim credit no matter what, but since members of ISIS believe they are acting on behalf of God what difference does it make?

Even a homegrown Muslim can suddenly announce he is part of ISIS and despite having never met or been to where ISIS is, ISIS claims credit as one of their own.

So elections or not, ISIS wants to attract more members by getting their name out into the Western media and earning fame in the Arab world. It's a win-win for them no matter what, they don't give a shit about Clinton or Trump they think it's all beneath them.

They probably knew Western people are so pathetic and decadent, they'll vote for Liberals even as they are mass slaughtered/raped and the current situation in Western Europe proves they were right.

Just watched AC 360 on CNN. Anderson cooper, David gergen and the lady pundit critiquing trump for taking advantage of this event when before he wasn't championing protecting gays. I'm like wtf!!! Trump is damned if he did, damned if he didn't mention this. You cannot win with the MSM. They spin the story however they want to fit their narrative as we all know.

On a note,Trump is being politically correct in not saying straight out that the radicals are using text from the Quran to compel them to act. He says, get to the bottom of this hatred. He knows.........We all know. Trump wants to ban immigration from certain hot spots while a Dutch politician by the name of Geert Wilders wants to ban the book. The Quran as it contains hate speech. The media is gonna go bananas when geert speaks at the RNC. Funny thing is, is that many don't know who he is and why he wants to ban the Quran. Some intelligent people will research about him and hopefully be swayed to not vote for Hillary. Again Free publicity for the trump campaign. Trump is playing chess as the others checkers. He is a few moves ahead of everybody else.

A legitimate question that I heard on the news today is "How can someone under FBI investigation buy a gun?" - Another legitimate question is how can someone under FBI investigation run for president?

:edit I see Samseau basically said the same thing a page ago....