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The Lizard of Oz · 2016-06-10 21:25:00 · #33955
(06-10-2016 09:18 PM)Gmac Wrote:  But yes he needs to ditch the old themes entirely... Guarantee you he gets that feedback tonight from his team and pivots.

I hope so. Sometimes I worry his people give him too much movie star treatment -- not enough hard truths. Hope I'm wrong about this.

Time to ditch the past and concentrate on the FUTURE. He can talk about Bobby Knight in his 2025 memoirs and every tear will be earned by then.

We need to win this f'ing election, Trump has a real shot but he needs to get it going again. The primaries are OVER.
The Lizard of Oz · 2016-06-10 21:57:00 · #33956
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kbell · 2016-06-10 22:07:00 · #33957
Perfect symbolism. That donut looks stretched out.
Tokyo Joe · 2016-06-10 22:32:00 · #33958
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911 · 2016-06-10 22:37:00 · #33959
Vid on Jesse Ventura and aspects of his relation with Trump. Apparently Trump studied Ventura's successful campaign in Minnesota and modeled his presidential campaign on JV's gubernatorial win.





I still think JV would be Trump's ideal running mate, it would infuse a tremendous amount of new energy into his campaign and emphasize Trump's main attribute as an independent, incorruptable outsider. He's just as big an enemy of the Globalists as anybody out there. He'd seriously undermine Hillary's base by securing a solid segment of Sanders voters while also softening up the edge that the MSM has built up around Trump. Ventura appeals to minorities without diluting Trump's alpha male appeal. He would boost Trump's blue collar appeal in the Rust Belt, deliver libertarian-minded swing states like NV, CO, AZ, NH and put blue states like WI and MN in play.

I don't think it's going to happen though, Trump's camp does not seem to encourage outside the box thinking, they will lead him to pick a more conventional VP candidate.
Comte De St. Germain · 2016-06-10 22:59:00 · #33960
^That is a sight for sore eyes. I've been a Jesse Ventura fan for years. His moves and talking about politics has been great to see especially compared to Alex Jones' hysterics.
Horus · 2016-06-10 23:09:00 · #33961
(06-10-2016 10:07 PM)kbell Wrote:  Perfect symbolism. That donut looks stretched out.

Stretched out by what exactly? Her snatch has more cobwebs and is more haunted than an episode of The Munsters.
Horus · 2016-06-10 23:14:00 · #33962
(06-10-2016 10:32 PM)Tokyo Joe Wrote:  [Image: 15npcw.jpg]

If someone has Twitter, that needs to be tweeted, or whatever it is that you do on Twitter, to Donald's account. It's brilliant and I could see that going "viral." Who knows.... maybe Donald himself will use it!
GlobalMan · 2016-06-11 01:01:00 · #33963
I feel a frustration similar to LOZ's. There is so much potential in what Trump could be doing. He could be, if not out of sight, at least holding a steady and solid lead of a few points over Hillary by now had he made better decisions.

There are so many important issues he could emphasize, ones that he has shown he truly cares about, ones that the people care about, yet he consistently chooses not to talk about them much. Now more than ever is when these big ideas need to be spoken about. The primary circus is over but Trump is still lingering in the tent. People will only be enthused for so long on pure energy and bravado. That alone won't be enough from here on out.

The irritating thing is he has shown that he is capable of talking about these issues in depth and with sincerity, that he is capable of winning people over with an assured voice - remember that interview with the whole family on stage? - yet he hasn't capitalized on these great aspects of his personality and life nearly as much as he could and should. The people need to see much more of that version of Trump.

Back when he was being hammered about the tranny restroom thing, there was a story about the Coalition of African-American Pastors (CAAP) being outraged that SJW's and the left were equating the "struggle" of trannies with what blacks went through. If you remember, Trump already had black pastors speak at his events. It would have been the perfect opportunity to make a play for a larger swath of the black vote. He could have had this group on a stage and talked about how the Democrats have ignored blacks for years and don't really care about them, or a similar framing to that effect.

There were numerous golden suggestions from others here that would have done wonders for the campaign.

It's tough to see him make the missteps or fire blanks, because he has enormous potential to do better, to win, and because the stakes of this election are higher than any other in decades.

He has every chance to win, he just needs to be the Trump who we've seen win people over in real time. He needs to move away from telling people why they should vote against Hillary and instead start giving people more reasons to vote for Trump. Make the campaign about the positive changes he can bring. Hopefully some changes are coming.
cibo · 2016-06-11 01:03:00 · #33964
   
Quote:Rapper Demarcus Davis was arrested last week after he was seen on YouTube and in social media posts sending death threats to presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump — while brandishing stolen guns.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2...olen-guns/

Laugh4
Bacchus · 2016-06-11 02:00:00 · #33965
Apparently, Vitaly of "Do you even lift?" fame is not aboard the Trump train and he showed it in Game 4 of the NBA Finals.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/6/11...ucks-video

[Image: trumpsucks.jpg?resize=639%2C398]

Looks like it's been a busy time for him. Last month, he was arrested for climbing the Hollywood sign.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment...-1.2650692
kosko · 2016-06-11 02:53:00 · #33966
It is too early for Trump to put down heavy bricks or major kill shots. IT IS ONLY JUNE.

The news cycle for the election does not ramp up until the conventions and then the 8 weeks that follow into the General. You have all this time until then where you don't want to fuck it up but also make gains.
H1N1 · 2016-06-11 02:53:00 · #33967
(06-10-2016 09:57 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  [Image: CkicHHtWUAUMs7S.jpg]

This is an impossibly, gloriously sexual picture - perhaps the most overtly and yet un-self-consciously so that I've ever seen. It is a really great image, one that has genuinely aroused me in a way that no magazine centerfold ever has.

There is everything here that a perverted mind needs to fill in the gaps, to the extent that another image almost appears in the mind, complete, and yet with all the anticipation and lusty relish still intact.

To me this picture offers a taste of depravity that no staged photo of some bimbo with her legs akimbo could ever hope to touch. I enjoyed it enormously.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-11 03:24:00 · #33968
(06-11-2016 02:53 AM)kosko Wrote:  It is too early for Trump to put down heavy bricks or major kill shots. IT IS ONLY JUNE.

The news cycle for the election does not ramp up until the conventions and then the 8 weeks that follow into the General. You have all this time until then where you don't want to fuck it up but also make gains.

I can understand why some were underwhelmed by his rally in Richmond, but I really don't think we need to worry. It's a long road to November and Trump is just pacing himself -- it would be unwise to unload his best ammo so soon. Besides, look at all he's done just in the past week...

. He's promised us an upcoming speech exposing the Clinton's corruption
. He's successfully pivoted past the Trump University BS with a public statement and a great speech
. He's kicked ass on social media by digging up past negative comments about Crooked Hillary made by her current allies, exposing just how full of shit they all are in the process

Some might say The Donald put his foot in his mouth with his comments about the Trump University judge. While that may be true to an extent, he's also helped to raise public awareness about La Raza and how unlikely it is for a judge with such ties to be truly impartial, in the process.

I know we'd love to see him knock the ball out of the park every time he steps up to the plate, but that just isn't realistic. Cut him a little slack. I'm hoping he'll drop some real bombshells during his speech on the Clintons next week.
GlobalMan · 2016-06-11 03:58:00 · #33969
(06-11-2016 03:24 AM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  
(06-11-2016 02:53 AM)kosko Wrote:  It is too early for Trump to put down heavy bricks or major kill shots. IT IS ONLY JUNE.

The news cycle for the election does not ramp up until the conventions and then the 8 weeks that follow into the General. You have all this time until then where you don't want to fuck it up but also make gains.

I can understand why some were underwhelmed by his rally in Richmond, but I really don't think we need to worry. It's a long road to November and Trump is just pacing himself -- it would be unwise to unload his best ammo so soon. Besides, look at all he's done just in the past week...

. He's promised us an upcoming speech exposing the Clinton's corruption
. He's successfully pivoted past the Trump University BS with a public statement and a great speech
. He's kicked ass on social media by digging up past negative comments about Crooked Hillary made by her current allies, exposing just how full of shit they all are in the process


None of those things listed have much to do with selling his ideas or furthering his message, telling people why they should vote Trump, that's what I'm talking about. They are about Hillary or fixing his missteps.

This didn't matter as much during the primary, but now it's starting to matter. More and different people are paying attention at this point. People that need to be convinced and enthused, people who want to know what future Trump wants to bring the American people, and how he'll do it.

Regarding the not using up his best ammo theory, that pre supposes that the entire campaign is or should be about attacking Hillary or 'firing shots'. It should not. That won't get him elected. He needs to start talking about all the great experience he brings and how that will be applied, as Lizard laid out.

We here are already sold, but many out there are not. He has the ability, he has shown it. The majority of energies should be put towards telling people how he's going to make their lives better, and our country great again, taking aim at Hillary at opportune times while not focusing the message on her alone.

The campaign needs a little more focus on why people should vote for Trump, not just about why people shouldn't vote for Hillary. And definitely not about the extraneous stuff.

There isn't a limited supply of him simply being his persuasive and measured best which can be "used up" too early.

The best time to start selling his message for the future heavily is now, the pivot cannot come too soon.

The question the campaign should be asking with each decision is: "Does this bring more/solidify votes?" If not, discard.

This is worth repeating:

(06-10-2016 09:02 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  It's not just that HE is tired -- the THEMES are tired.

Talk about the f'ing FUTURE. What are you going to do for the country -- what is wrong and what you will change. Talk about IDEAS.

The wall, and good trade deals, sure, that's bread and butter. But also:

-- Rebuilding America's infrastructure
-- Reviving the American family. #TrumpBabyBoom
-- Reforming higher education. What's going on with colleges and student debt is ridiculous!
-- Energy independence. Unleashing American energy resources
-- Removing the burden of excessive regulation from small business. Let small business be America's business again. Crooked Hillary is in the pocket of BIG CORPORATIONS. Trump is the defender of small business and America's workers.
-- And above all: JOBS, JOBS, JOBS. Keep talking about that jobs report. 38,000 jobs added in May? That's terrible. Did he forget already??

That's how you win.
Hotwheels · 2016-06-11 04:14:00 · #33970
You have no idea on how to sell.
The Black Knight · 2016-06-11 04:59:00 · #33971
Trump could be a bit more focus (the violence against Trump supporters seems like a miss opportunity to me; stuff that really hits home like the woman getting egg in the face with Mexican flags waving in the air) and avoid some unforced errors but I think only a few things in the end really matter between now and the general election:

1. Potential Hillary e-mail fallout.

2. Hillary's VP pick - Will it push or pull Bernie supporters? A Warren VP pick, which is looking like a real possibility despite the valid mad shit Warren said about Hillary a decade ago, could swing a lot of Bernie supporters to Hillary. Bernie being VP is a possibility as well.

Ultimately, Hillary has a real problem with the BernieBros and how she handles it could make the difference in a few swing states; particularly white dominated states that Sanders won like Wisconsin and Colorado. A small BernieBro defection in those two states could swing them to Trump easily.

3. Trump's VP pick - People will be looking for someone with political experience and a steady hand. Huntsman, Sessions, Corker. Those types. No wildcard Palin like bullshit and he is fine on this front.

*The BIG ONE*

4. The First Debate - THIS is where hard lines are gonna be formed in the minds of the general public. If Trump can make Hillary look like a joke on national TV to her face, the way he chopped Jeb's balls off in front of the whole world, it's game over. Trump's weak point is referencing detailed political knowledge on the fly in response to a question and Hillary does have the potential to trip Trump up on some intellectual bullshit gotcha thing.

She showed in her recent foreign policy speech that she is gonna go after Trump's lack of on-the-fly trivia knowledge of world affairs pretty hard. Trump needs to make sure he has the basics cover so he doesn't look like he is clueless.

Hard to say the outcome but I think Hillary is gonna get a a few good hits in there (which the media will blow out of proportion like that retarded "Delete" tweet) but then Trump is gonna crush her with her history of corruption, covering for Bill, and her incompetent past performance. No one in public has EVER really called out Hillary on her bullshit to her face on camera in such blunt direct language. She is not even good at handling bullshit semi-soft balls from the corrupt press; hence the lack of news conferences and often media shut out she engages in. But in the first debate, she will have NO WHERE to hide. Her raw reaction and instincts, which is often guarded by the corrupt system, will be on unfiltered display in full view for the whole world to see. It's like women in combat military jobs who talk a big game about how hard they are but completely crumble and fall apart once the shit gets real. That's Hillary. The epitome of "fuck up and move up" gender affirmative action cronyism.

I think people will ultimately side with Trump because they don't expect someone to be all knowing about all things but they sure do expect a leader to be honest and competent; two things Hillary clearly is not today, never was, and never will be.
SamuelBRoberts · 2016-06-11 05:00:00 · #33972
I think some deep breaths are in order here.

First, this is about the 5th or 6th "I just saw a Trump rally and I didn't think it was very good! Someone please get in touch with the Trump campaign for me and tell them that they're not doing a good job!" post in this thread alone. The last 4 or 5 times this was posted, Trump turned out to be fine. He'll be fine now.

When he needs to stop talking about Bobby Knight and go talk about something else, he'll go talk about something else. He's got the big Clinton speech lined up already on Monday.

Secondly, "Trump needs to talk about infrastructure, energy independence, and removing regulations from small businesses."
These were the standard talking points of every other republican candidate this campaign. Every conservative candidate for the past 35 years has talked about "removing regulations from small businesses." How well did these talking points work out for the 16 other guys in the republican field? Energy independence and jobs were Romney policies. Romney lost.

Relax a bit. Everything is fine.
storm · 2016-06-11 07:47:00 · #33973
There is a Trump Singles website:
Trumpsingles.com

It is terrible. It looks like the sort of thing a high school sophomore might put together over a weekend.
JacksonRev · 2016-06-11 07:58:00 · #33974


nomadbrah · 2016-06-11 08:28:00 · #33975
Why do hispanics have such a hard on for big government?

Is it because they were cucked by the Spanish?
kbell · 2016-06-11 08:47:00 · #33976
Quote:This is an impossibly, gloriously sexual picture - perhaps the most overtly and yet un-self-consciously so that I've ever seen. It is a really great image, one that has genuinely aroused me in a way that no magazine centerfold ever has.

There is everything here that a perverted mind needs to fill in the gaps, to the extent that another image almost appears in the mind, complete, and yet with all the anticipation and lusty relish still intact.

To me this picture offers a taste of depravity that no staged photo of some bimbo with her legs akimbo could ever hope to touch. I enjoyed it enormously.

Did Lizard of Oz hijack H1N1 account or brain?
The Lizard of Oz · 2016-06-11 09:00:00 · #33977
Now is not the time for Trump supporters to be making excuses for his campaign and telling everyone to "relax". That's exactly the problem -- everyone is too relaxed. Time for some tension again.

Trump loves sports analogies? Well, here is one he might not like so much but needs to hear anyway. Right now, he is like a prize fighter who has won a few fights and has grown fat and lazy. All he wants to do is eat his double big Macs with a large fries and a pint of Haagen Dazs and sloppily fuck his whores and floozies. He's got 30 extra pounds, he's got no legs, and he's got no hunger in his eyes. And the sleazy coaches and handlers don't have the balls to tell him that because they want to keep getting that paycheck. It's so fucking classic.

It's time to cut the fat, throw out the junk food, throw the sluts out of the big penthouse suite, and starting running miles and skipping rope every day. It's time to get hungry again. The big wins in the primaries were great but you can't sit around with your big gut hanging out bullshitting about them. The title fight is coming up and that ugly BITCH will knock him the fuck out in the first round if he goes into it barely able to make weight and slow on his feet.

The same goes for all Trump fans. Stop being so fat and relaxed and get hungry again. This is no time to go easy on the man, and no time to go easy on yourself. Time to get that look in your eye and help the champ train to WIN.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2016-06-11 09:05:00 · #33978
Guys, take it easy with the "sky is falling" sentiments. In fact, it was Lizard of Oz who personally predicted a "rollercoaster campaign with many ups and downs, which are to be expected because Trump will be Trump, so there's no reason to get overly excited".

Trump knows what he is doing, and one slightly weaker rally (still orders of magnitude superior to Clinton North Korean committee metings) won't hurt him. Relax and enjoy the ride!
Latinopan · 2016-06-11 09:07:00 · #33979
That felling when you don't' have Latina Trump supporter with big beautiful red lips.



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