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Deepdiver · 2016-06-04 11:48:00 · #33480
I was wrong: Trump WILL be the next president

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/01/i-was-wro...ntary.html

Commentary by Jake Novak, supervising producer of CNBC's "Power Lunch."
Roadrunner · 2016-06-04 12:01:00 · #33481
Jake Tapper's interview with Trump on CNN was almost painful to watch. The mental Gymnastics that Jake went through to try and make Trump jump through the hoop labeled Racist was ludicrous. The Judge was of Mexican Heritage, labeled himself as a proud Mexican-American, delivered a very unfair ruling against Trump and Trump simply said that he had to recuse himself due to his conflict of interests as being Mexican causing his bias against Trump.

Questions for Jake Tapper that I want to see him jump through while attempting to stay coherent:
Is Mexican a Race or a Nationality?
If you declare yourself a Mexican-American isn't that by definition an exclusion of being labeled the term simply American?
Do you disregard the possible effects of having parents that identify strongly with a culture and nation different from the one you are raised in?
So is America really a boiling pot where everyone comes and loses their previous identity?
Or do you keep your personal heritage with you? In which case being of Mexican heritage would cause you to harbor sympathies for Mexico.
Should you allow people who have interests in Mexico to pass Judgement on a man who is willing to do what is best for America at the expense of Mexico?
Isn't supporting Mexico over America the definition of being a Traitor, a hostile invader, an act of sabotage?
LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-04 12:15:00 · #33482
Just saw this on Breitbart, one of the only places I go to for news anymore. What do you guys make of it? I don't see how this can possibly be true. The bitch is being investigated by the FBI and she's up 11 points?! I don't buy it. She can't even beat Crazy Bernie!

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...11-points/

Quote:A new poll from Reuters shows Hillary Clinton regaining a solid lead over Republican Donald Trump. Clinton is backed by 46 percent of likely voters, while 35 percent back Trump. Clinton’s 11-point lead is a sharp reversal from last month, when Clinton and Trump were tied.

That Reuters survey from mid-May showed a sizable bump for the Republican, as Trump clinched his nomination fight. Hillary Clinton was still experiencing a string of primary losses against Vermont socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders. While that contest continues through Tuesday, a break in primary contests has spared Clinton another round of negative headlines.

After peaking at just over 40 percent of the vote on May 12th, Trump has shed support over the past two weeks, according to Reuters new poll. Trump has lost 5 points of support, while Clinton has gained 6 points. Since then, Trump has fielded questions over allegations surrounding Trump University as well as donations to veterans’ groups following a January fundraiser.

Clinton leads Trump among women by 15 points. More surprisingly, perhaps, Clinton now also leads Trump among male voters. In mid-May, Trump led Clinton by 7 points among men. Currently, though, Clinton leads Trump by 8 points among men, a 15-point swing.

Trump continues to lead Clinton among seniors. Voters older than 60 prefer Trump by 6 points, 43-37. Clinton dominates among young voters, though. She leads among voters younger than 35 by 30 points, 54-24. Clinton currently enjoys a bigger margin among young voters than President Obama did in 2012 against Mitt Romney.

The Reuters data, in fact, suggests that Donald Trump has a long way to go to reach Romney’s numbers in a number of key groups. Trump currently leads Clinton by just 3 points among white voters. Romney won white voters by 20 points. Trump leads among white working class voters by just 6 points.

One of the political narratives of a Trump candidacy is that he could bring white, working class voters to the Republican party. It is debatable how many of these voters aren’t already voting Republican. In any case, though, Trump is only narrowly leading Clinton among these voters.

Among white evangelicals, Trump leads Clinton by 26 points. This is far lower, though, than the 57 point margin Romney enjoyed in 2012.

Despite the fact that Clinton is still fighting a primary against Sanders, she seems to have a more unified Democrat party behind her than Trump has of Republicans. Against Clinton, Trump has the support of just 71 percent of Republicans. Just over 12 percent of Republican voters are currently supporting Clinton.

Among Democrats, though, Clinton has just over 78 percent support. Only 7 percent of Democrats are supporting Donald Trump. Even among white Democrats, Trump only pulls 9 percent support.

This latest Reuters poll, surveying 1,421 likely voters, was conducted May 30-June 3. The race has changed dramatically since its last survey in mid-May. It will likely change again, several times, before November. The general election campaign hasn’t even officially begun. It is likely to be a roller-coaster.

I think Crooked Hillary is fudging numbers. The recent attacks by illegal immigrants on U.S. citizens during Trump rallies have GOT to be costing her votes. I think this poll is fake. I believe it was faked for the purpose of trying to discourage superdelegates from jumping ship to Crazy Bernie's side. The only way people were going to continue supporting Crooked Hillary is if they thought she had a lead over Trump. I'm calling bullshit on this whole thing.
godfather dust · 2016-06-04 12:43:00 · #33483
^I thought the same thing, Reuters poll is dog shit.
Eastside · 2016-06-04 12:59:00 · #33484
The Reuters poll wildly oversampled democrats. The republican plus independent vote in that poll still didn't equal the dems which is totally inaccurate. The latest Gallup party affiliation poll showed dems only +3% over republicans with a majority being independent. Not to mention the higher republican voter turnout we saw in the primaries and the enthusiasm gap going on this year. So yeah, they know that they were messing with the numbers but they don't care probably until we get closer to the election and they want to be able to say that they were accurate. As of now though, if the numbers in their poll reflected a more accurate party affliation spread, Trump is actually winning based on his doing better with independents. At the very minimum, it would be within the margin of error or tied.
Deepdiver · 2016-06-04 13:30:00 · #33485
One of the reasons there are so many Obamunist supported hostile emboldened illegals attacking Patriotic Americans.

DHS Quietly Moving, Releasing Vanloads of Illegal Aliens Away from Border
JUNE 03, 2016
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/0...ay-border/
RaccoonFace · 2016-06-04 13:47:00 · #33486
These are the latest Trump vs Clinton polls:
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While the Reuters poll is bogus we shouldn't dismiss every poll that has Clinton leading, Obama lead most polls in 2012 and he won quite comfortably. He actually outperformed most statewide polls.
Last Parade · 2016-06-04 14:11:00 · #33487
There is no fucking chance Clinton leads Trump among male voters. I can't believe whatever sample was used to take that survey.

Even if it's a fudged survey result, it's still disturbing.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-04 14:16:00 · #33488
Well, the worst part is -- even if it is bogus as hell, that poll will still be touted as absolute truth and the sheep will believe Trump is losing ground. I don't know what we can do to help refute that. We know the media is rallying against The Donald because he's exposing them for their dishonesty. Any poll result released via the media should be looked upon with extreme skepticism. They clearly have a dog in the fight.
John Michael Kane · 2016-06-04 14:20:00 · #33489
Just do what Donald does: Mock them.

The Failing Mainstream Media: Poor ratings because of all the poor accuracy.
Losers!
Biased!
Sad!

I prefer the short zingers myself.

Only naive people still believe the MSM. Don't be a rube!
Praetor Lupus · 2016-06-04 14:31:00 · #33490
(06-04-2016 07:46 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  This would give us our best shot at purging socialism entirely. The last few years have shown us their arrogant endgame, and exactly the fascist tyrants they will be and how hellish and hysterical an existence would result. This isn't an election for America, this is the election.

Agreed.

At all times socialism must be shown for the hateful, crushing, energy-sapping, unnatural ideology that it really is. I don't want it banned. I want it to be utterly discredited, the sort of idea that no one even raises an eyebrow at it because the notion that we ever entertained such an idea is so unbelievable - like slavery.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-04 14:32:00 · #33491
John Michael Kane, that's solid advice. I recently heard the media has a current approval rate of 6%. That's partly why they have such a strong liberal bias -- they'd never be able to survive in a free market with such dismal ratings so they rely on government subsidies to stay afloat. Handouts are obviously a trademark of the left.

Then there's the whole functioning as a propaganda arm of the elite, which is another reason they never go under. Their purpose clearly isn't just to inform their readers/viewers but to indoctrinate them into certain ideologies and persuade them to act in ways supportive of those ideologies.

I would hope the public's distrust of the media combined with Trump's public indictment of the media's dishonesty would be a major asset to his campaign.
Dusty · 2016-06-04 14:37:00 · #33492
   
The Lizard of Oz · 2016-06-04 14:40:00 · #33493
(06-04-2016 02:37 PM)Dusty Wrote:  [Image: attachment.php?aid=31891]

One of the very most enraging pics I've seen of her.
Tactician · 2016-06-04 14:43:00 · #33494
(06-04-2016 02:11 PM)Last Parade Wrote:  There is no fucking chance Clinton leads Trump among male voters.

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Fuck you Hillary. Makes my blood boil. Now I have to do the breathing exercises recommended in this thread: How to fall asleep fast : The 4-7-8 breathing method

Edit: Thank you, Dusty. I have now calmed down.
LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-04 14:57:00 · #33495
As others have said, to claim women are the primary victims of war makes about as much sense as saying men have been the primary victims of rape. Such an idiotic statement -- but could we really expect anything else to come from Crooked Hillary?
Praetor Lupus · 2016-06-04 15:06:00 · #33496
Roger Stone warns of new Washington Post hit piece on Trump in the form of a new 'sex scandal':



HankMoody · 2016-06-04 15:15:00 · #33497
(06-04-2016 03:06 PM)Praetor Lupus Wrote:  Roger Stone warns of new Washington Post hit piece on Trump in the form of a new 'sex scandal':




I hope they do accuse Trump of sleeping with lots of hot women. It will only raise his profile more.
redonion · 2016-06-04 15:20:00 · #33498
Interesting that the WP is going to spin a "Trump does cocaine" angle, especially since there is that report floating around of Hillary being addicted to cocaine (I believe Deepdiver posted it a few pages back).
Irenicus · 2016-06-04 15:53:00 · #33499
(06-04-2016 07:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  ...why can't the Trump campaign themselves hire much more security and put them outside the venue, guarding the metal fences and the way in? Is that not allowed?...

Your idea is good in theory, but not in practice.


In practice it would look something like this:



Trump is having a speech at a venue, which is surrounded by security, walls and whatnot. And of course, there are a million of low life scumbags (they are not protestors, they are scumbags) waiting to pounce at someone.

Of course, there are MSM SOB's covering these scumbags.

Eventually, these scumbags suddenly start attacking Trump's supporters and destroying their property (cars for example).

Security steps in an takes care of them, while being filmed all the time by the MSM idiots.



In an ideal world, the MSM would write articles which tell 100% truth - that the security protected Trump's supporter's lives and property.

But...guess what?

It won't be like that . Oh nonononononono.


It will be usual pile of lies:


Quote:TRUMP ATTACKS!!!

Quote:TRUMP'S ELITE GUARD ATTACKS PEACEFUL PEOPLE!
(Trump's security in brown shirts, with German WW2 era helms)

EDIT:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...d-fascism/

Quote: HERR DONALD VON DRUMPF TERRORIZES CALIFORNIA!!!
(Trump in a SS general uniform)


In the news, an EDITED (!!) footage will show up, in which you will see security using violence against the protesters.

But the parts which prove that the PROTESTORS STARTED FIRST will not be shown up.


After all the Goebbels style propaganda, many people, which are moderate, might leave (or refuse to enter) the Trump train. Trump, and us...do not want that. Security will help Trump win in the short term, but, in the long term, it will be his undoing.


tldr: Security will cause more harm than good.
Polo · 2016-06-04 16:16:00 · #33500
Some guys over on reddit have caught Google apparently rigging autocomplete by preventing "crooked" and even "crooked h" from autocompleting to "crooked hillary".

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/trump-s...d-election

I might be missing something here, but it seems like a pretty compelling case. And I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise, given that Facebook was caught purging pro-conservative stories from its trending news section.

The Executive Chairman of Google, Eric Schmidt, is also a major supporter of Hillary, and has been involved in providing technology services for the campaign:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...y-clinton/

Not only is Trump up against the political, media, academic, and business establishments - he is also up against Silicon Valley, which wields enormous power in today's world. I normally abhor government regulation, but the likes of Google and Facebook are monopolies and they are abusing their power. Something needs to be done.

[I am well short of 250 posts, so someone please let me know if the rule against participation in political discussions is strictly enforced, in which case I will refrain from posting here again. I like to think Trump is bigger than politics...]
SirTimothy · 2016-06-07 13:22:00 · #33676
Just in case you thought the Libertarian Party wasn't completely insane, here's a shot from a debate:

   

What the hell kind of person's ideal society involves kids having access to hard drugs before they start elementary school? This is what happens when your head is so far up your ideology that you don't even think about whether it's actually a good idea or not.

On the plus side, I'm now way less worried about libertarians spoiling the election for Trump. Trump has been stealth-courting the Bernie fans, and I think he probably has the right idea.
Ghost Tiger · 2016-06-07 13:33:00 · #33677
(06-07-2016 01:03 PM)LeoneVolpe Wrote:  
(06-07-2016 12:49 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  
(06-07-2016 12:29 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  
(06-07-2016 12:15 PM)Enoch Wrote:  Like you I don't think the rank and file are the problem. Police chiefs are political appointees. Chief has already been identified I believe as a Clinton supporter.

If you look at the list of names of the San Jose PD, you might change your mind. That city is "diversified" from top to bottom, and I wouldn't be surprised if the rank and file officers harbored ethnic antipathy towards Trump, his supporters, and all that they represent.

A fish rots from the head down. Once you have the Marxists in at the top, it's only a matter of time until the rank and file follow along with the ideology. Dissenters are weeded out with early retirement offers and outright false disciplinary charges. Eventually the libtards in white shirts at the top own all the positions.

As I said, "Our government is corrupt from the top down." I completely agree, Ghost Tiger.

Is it just me or (aside from all the recent Trump University mess) has it been a little more quiet on Trump's end lately? I'm hoping his campaign have just been busy plotting its next maneuvers. I assume we'll hear something from Trump after the results of today's primaries are revealed.

As for the whole Trump University thing, we all know the media is going after him in full force, but so far he's been able to live up to the name "Teflon Don" because nothing ever seems to stick to him. Is this story actually sticking or will it be old news in a week or two? I'm hoping something much more interesting happens to divert attention away from this so Trump can pivot to something else.

Lately, some people have been accusing Trump of intentionally trying to throw the race, but I don't believe that's true. I think it's just more talk from all the so-called "experts" trying to dissuade people from voting for Trump by putting their own negative spin on every little thing he does to encourage voters' doubts and fears.

The Trump University case was a point of weakness that needed to be dealt with. If you remember, Trump got hammered pretty hard over it in one of the debates and that was one of the few moments where he looked vulnerable. He had to expect Clinton's team to salivate at the video of that and then make plans to come hard at him from that angle. So he made an aggressive defensive move by attacking the impartiality of the judge. I think the Trump team is just circling the wagons and waiting out the fallout from the aggression of this maneuver. It was a pretty ballsy move to attack the judge's ties to Mexican groups and even some of Trump's most ardent supporters got upset about it (e.g. Newt Gingrich). But it was a good risk to take because now whenever Hitlery tries to bring up Trump University, everyone will think, "Yeah, but that fucking racist Trump DOES have a point... that judge IS biased and probably would have been disqualified as a juror if Trump's lawyer made an objection on the same grounds." It was a risky move and it brought some heat on Trump, even from his friends, but in the long game of the general election, it actually will turn out to be genius.
kaotic · 2016-06-07 13:57:00 · #33678
A Bernie Bro I know who works at a pot clinic and went to a Bernie rally just found out he can't vote for Bernie because he's still a registered Republican.

Laugh4 Laugh2
AneroidOcean · 2016-06-07 14:52:00 · #33679
EDIT: Holy shit, I just talked to a delivery lady at my work who is formerly Muslim (from Iran) and is now Christian. I asked her if she had voted and she said "no, as soon as I get off work I'm going" and then she mentioned something about "the troublemaker" and then I got this huge grin on my face and said, "are you voting for him? Trump?" and she said "yes!" and then she pulled up pictures of her she'd taken trolling Trump-haters in a headscarf and with a sign saying "Muslim Women For Trump!" and told me about how she'd gone to one of his rallies and was so close to Trump almost close enough to get her picture signed. I was laughing my ass off!

We ended the conversation with her saying "choo choo" and me finishing her sentence with "the Trump Train stops for noone!"

I'm sitting here like BananaBananaBanana right now.

BernieBros getting fisted left and right over in California. This could be good for Trump if enough of them get screwed over and understand that they got completely fisted:

Full text below, to not give them clicks. Original link:
The Heist is On: Clinton Ally, California Secretary of State Alex Padilla Trying to Dupe Likely Sanders Voters

Quote:Unless an immediate mass media campaign is launched, or awareness otherwise raised, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of voters for Bernie Sanders will have their votes thrown out and never counted, due to erroneous instructions reported by concerned poll workers, disenfranchising likely Sanders voters. The erroneous instructions affect independent voters who overwhelmingly break towards Sanders. In California, independent voters are registered as "No Party Preference" (NPP.)

California elections are overseen and administered by California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Hillary Clinton supporter who headlined a fundraiser for Clinton in Riverside on May 21st.

The voters have been given or told to use the wrong kind of ballot, "NPP" ballots rather than regular Democratic party ballots with the presidential candidates' names printed on them. Note to California voters: If you do not or did not see Bernie Sanders' name printed on your ballot, you have the wrong kind of ballot. You have until election day to go to the county’s voter registrar’s office to ask for a Democratic party ballot, or ask for it at your polling place on Election Day.

Stand outside your polling station with signs reminding "NO BERNIE PRINTED ON BALLOT= NO VOTE!"

Last week independent journalist Greg Palast reported:

"I am currently reporting from Southern California, and there’s an Ashley Beck, who is a poll worker in conservative Orange County. She was being trained with other poll workers, and they were given some very strange information. In the California primary, the independent voters registered as NPP, or no party preference, can vote in the Democratic primary. They can ask for a ballot and they are allowed to vote. The Orange County poll workers were told if NPP voters ask for a Democratic Party ballot to vote for Bernie or Hillary, they are not to be given regular ballots, but provisional ballots. This shook up Ashley."

Ms. Beck told Palast:

“I was told that all NPP voters are to be given provisional ballots. I was bothered by that, because I was always told that NPP voters in California can vote for Democrats and their vote would be counted. I was a little worried that he was telling all 18 of us poll workers to give all NPP voters provisional ballots. We all know what happens most of the time with provisional ballots. They are not being counted.”

"Provisional" ballots differ from regular Democratic party ballots in that they have no presidential candidates printed on them. True Democratic primary ballots have "Bernie Sanders" and "Hillary Clinton" printed on them.

Palast, in an interview with Dennis Bernstein for Reader Supported News, pointed out that the phenomenon of record numbers of independent voters seeking to vote in this year's primaries, overwhelmingly consists of Sanders partisans. The votes thrown out will almost all be Sanders votes, Palast said.

The polling firm Political Data Inc. told NBC affiliate KCRA News in Sacramento that, according to their data, 58% of independent voters who sought to cast a Democratic ballot would have voted for Sanders, while just 37% said they would vote for Clinton.

A search of California media coverage of the incorrect instructions shows only the KCRA report, which suggests that going into the CA primary this Tuesday, untold numbers of voters are still headed toward casting votes that won't count.

In addition, the ballot confusion comes amid reports that, similarly to what happened in Arizona and New York, voters are finding their party affiliations mysteriously changed, sometimes disqualifying them from voting in the Democratic primary. Voters should exercise extreme vigilance in checking their recorded voter registrations online.

A CA citizen's group, the Voting Rights Defense Project, filed a lawsuit last month as numerous instances of the misinformation on state websites spread, asking the judge to order the state to issue correct information via a mass media campaign before this Tuesday's primary. Federal Judge William Alsup threw out the suit, saying “The citizens of California are smart enough to know what their rights are.”

Secretary of State Padilla's office fought the lawsuit and denied any public awareness campaign was needed.

The approaching fiasco unfolds as Hillary Clinton continues to fight for a tie in the polls with Donald Trump, while Sanders maintains a wide lead over Trump in head-to-head, general election polls. The polls suggest that independent voters who support Sanders will not will not transfer their allegiance, and votes, to Hillary, if she is the nominee. Sanders maintains a comfortable 11 point lead over Trump, while Clinton is now fighting to stay neck-and-neck.

RCP average of multiple national polls, Trump (red) v. Clinton (blue):
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RCP average of multiple national polls, Trump (red) v. Sanders (blue)
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At the same time heavy blows continue to rain down on the Clinton candidacy, not least a scathing State Department report on her deletion of thousands of emails in violation of the Public Records Act, and her use of an unsecure email account during her time as Secretary of State, which national security experts say compromised the nation's secrets. CIA Director and former NSA Director Michael Hayden told USA Today;

"I would lose all respect for a whole bunch of foreign intelligence agencies if they weren't sitting back, paging through the emails,"

As Trump rises in the polls in relation to Clinton, renewed questions about the Clinton Foundation keep surfacing, as well as old ones, such as a report from the liberal Mother Jones Magazine that the acceptance by the Clintons of large gifts from the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and United Arab Emirates posed thorny questions about approval of arms deal to these countries by Clinton while she was Secretary of State.
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