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LeoneVolpe · 2016-06-03 22:18:00 · #33455

It seems when it comes to future rallies, we're going to have to adopt a "Fight Club" strategy:

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Quote:"This week each one of you has a homework assignment: You're gonna go out, you're gonna start a fight with a total stranger, you're gonna start a fight and lose."

Just make sure the cameras are around to see it, no sense in taking a beating for nothing. I agree with what DamienCasanova said, wear the most flamboyant red, white and blue clothing you can find. The optics will make them look worse than they already do...which is pretty fucking abysmal. Such a strategy would help us to secure the moral high ground (which we already have) in the public eye.

Latinopan · 2016-06-03 23:18:00 · #33456

(06-03-2016 08:56 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: Look at this powerful War Photo of a shaven-head woman and her child being marched along by the mob. I've repeatedly seen it used by Leftists as evidence of the treatment of Jews under Nazi Occupation. Even as far back as 1983, one famous band was using it as anti-nazi propaganda.

... except that's France after the war. She's a woman who had a baby with a German man. They used to shave their heads as punishment. This is the actions of those who would consider themselves Good and Righteous. Note how it's mainly - as always -the women revelling in social persecution and shaming.

Or this:

She's not Jewish. This is how the Corsicans treated their women whom slept with Germans Soldiers, but, again, this is used as evidence of how evil the Nazis were despite the clothes being all wrong for Germany.

Once again, these are the actions of the Good and Righteous.

Why does the Left use them? It's because these images are emotionally-powerful. Remember, they're drawn to symbolism.

Think of the image of the naked Vietnamese girl running in front of Napalm. If someone captures the right image of Bullying Oppressor Versus Innocence, it's over for the Radical Left.

(06-03-2016 08:12 PM)kosko Wrote: These hardcore lefties use bats, rocks, and fire as weapons. They don't use guns.

Emotionalism / Irrationalism / Symbolism. The violence is increasingly stepping up because they know they're losing. Wait until political loss is seemingly-inevitable. Irrational minds can justify anything. American Leftists Committing violence was Progressive Heresy until recently. They'll forgive themselves for crossing the gun barrier in time. You have to understand in their minds they are the Good and the Righteous.

There is a book about with lots of pictures
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Here they are when things were going ok for them fucking the invaders.
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Here some real videos of the shaving

Some NSFW pictures
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...d-War.html

Fast Eddie · 2016-06-04 00:23:00 · #33457

(06-03-2016 07:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: This is why, as shitty as it is, Trump supporters need to let this violence happen. Seeing 'innocent, non-violent people' being attacked and brutalised by the Rabid Far Left has huge cultural currency as a Propaganda Tool.

I hate to sound this brutally realistic but if one Perfect Victim is brutalised - if someone on the Right dies and the resulting images are as powerful a Dead Immigrant Child In The Surf - the Symbolic value of the moment as Propaganda will see the Radical Left cut adrift as the Moderate Left rapidly swings right, and lead to a much harder shift towards traditional values than would have otherwise been possible without it.

You have to keep calm and suck the attacks up. Document. Record. Try to capture those powerful images and maybe the image. Think of every Time Life moment of the last century.

Watch for infiltrators and shill trying to promote violent retaliation. Now reverse the situation - imagine an image of a Tall White Guy in combat gear holding a .45 at a crying Mexican Woman's head. They're trying to create the same moment for the Left. Be aware.

Ok, but is this leftist violence actually being covered by the media? Do people see the footage, outside of youtube and some alt right sites? I'm in Asia so I can't watch American TV, but CNN.com has been going mum is the word.

The Time Life moments exist 99.9% due to Time Life choosing to publicize them. For every naked girl running from burning napalm moment there are 1000 Viet Cong atrocity moments that have never been documented let alone publicized because it goes against the narrative.

What use it getting your head bashed in and documented when it's never going to get any playing time outside of an audience that was already on your side from the get go? We can have the perfect symbolic moments captured in brilliant 1080p HD and it's not going to become a Time Life Moment because "Time Life" isn't going to play it. But sure, let's hope nothing happens between now and the election that could be used against us by the media. That's the other side of the coin that is key, frankly. And if Trump wins, hey great. Moot point, almost.

But if he loses? I think the whole "turn the other cheek" schtick has worn thin over the decades. Where has it gotten us? We've been pushed out of the very cities we've built over centuries by violent disorganized thugs. Our countries are being taken over by semi literate peasants and goat fuckers. We're the worst type of Dindu Nuffins out there. Every time we are attacked, what do we do in response? Dindu Nuffin. And because we are Dindu Nuffins, we encourage attacks again and again and again.

But whatever. Frankly, the best course of action is to stack that paper and get the fuck out of Dodge, so do that if you can swing it.

Phoenix · 2016-06-04 01:03:00 · #33458

(06-04-2016 12:23 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote:
(06-03-2016 07:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: This is why, as shitty as it is, Trump supporters need to let this violence happen. Seeing 'innocent, non-violent people' being attacked and brutalised by the Rabid Far Left has huge cultural currency as a Propaganda Tool.

What use it getting your head bashed in and documented when it's never going to get any playing time outside of an audience that was already on your side from the get go? We can have the perfect symbolic moments captured in brilliant 1080p HD and it's not going to become a Time Life Moment because "Time Life" isn't going to play it. But sure, let's hope nothing happens between now and the election that could be used against us by the media. That's the other side of the coin that is key, frankly.

Bosch is right, "every revolution needs it's martyrs". This is why the muslims are so keen on martyrdom, it has a powerful solidarity and motivation effect on the rest of the community. Normal, well-moralized communities respond immediately and collectively to external attacks on even a few of their people.

On the distribution, I've talked about this topic before in the case of Europe (which is far more demoralized), but I think there needs to be a much more vigorous counter-propaganda effort from the right. The leftist mainstream media won't spread it, but that doesn't mean citizens can't. Pasting up posters in the streets. Pushing flyers under doors. Especially in Europe. You don't always have to convince people to change sides. You just need to hold up a shiny mirror to their morality. You need just enough to motivate those on the right, convert a few in the middle, and demotivate those on the left, to unbalance the existing ruling class so it can be toppled.

A simple propaganda poster would be a picture of anti-Trump violence on one side, and mainstream media reporting slant on the other. Sow the seed in the minds of passers by that perhaps the news outlets are barefaced liars. The more people that can be disconnected from the media, the more allies we will receive.

Another would be attacking the academic left. Nobody seems to be attacking academics. The American academic should be painted as a national enemy, by juxtaposing what he preaches with pictures of the reality outside, not just allowed to quietly poison young minds unnoticed. We have plenty of talk about college being a waste of money, but that isn't particularly emotionally motivating. Painting them as anti-social and anti-American saboteurs, putting their faces on street posters with their names on them and the things they say, might be more effective.

Latinopan · 2016-06-04 01:26:00 · #33459

I think we are starting to get this moments in pictures

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el mavericko · 2016-06-04 01:54:00 · #33460

My bad if this has already been covered but if you were a Trump supporter currently based in Vietnam, how would you go about buying a legit MAGA hat?

dasher · 2016-06-04 03:17:00 · #33461

(06-04-2016 01:54 AM)el mavericko Wrote: My bad if this has already been covered but if you were a Trump supporter currently based in Vietnam, how would you go about buying a legit MAGA hat?

You'd need someone in the USA to forward it to you. A friend, a member here, or you could use a service such as PriceUSA (but not sure if such services do it for Vietnam).

scotian · 2016-06-04 03:34:00 · #33462

(06-04-2016 01:26 AM)Latinopan Wrote: I think we are starting to get this moments in pictures

That lanky white guy could probably take out all of those thugs chasing him in about five seconds, along with the chick in the Pats jersey getting egged, it's appalling that situations like that are happening in the USA.

Fisto · 2016-06-04 03:45:00 · #33463

He could, if he knew a thing about fighting.

And this touches on the other subject of why Trump supporters aren't throwing down.

They were all raised better.

This kid never learned how to scrap like these other little peons chasing him. He went to school, did his homework, and from the looks of it ran track.

Look at these dogs chasing him. Pants around their asses, out of shape, and far behind. But they aren't afraid to pick on a white kid because they know that kid won't do anything.

Look at the guy on the right, looks like he's stolen at least 1 Trump hat.

Go back to that other video where those thugs are hitting that guy from behind.

He turns around and basically punches one in the chest and the guy is in shock!

That's what you're dealing with here, fucking lowlife bullies.

As soon as you stand up to them they don't know what to do but they're very good at running up from behind you and attacking.

Notice in that video also the brief moment where the mob doesn't know quite what to do, they only regain their composure when the white guys turn and start to leave again.

That IS frame control.

I knew a guy once that was getting jumped (a wrestler) and he grabbed one of the guys and took his back standing up and yelled out that if they didn't leave him the fuck alone he was going to bite their friends ear off, then chomped down enough to make the one guy scream.

They left him the fuck alone too.

Everyone shouldn't just be buying ammo, it's time to take some boxing lessons and more.

Leonard D Neubache · 2016-06-04 04:07:00 · #33464

^Yep.

An unexpected and powerful shot to the base of the sternum (fake for the head) will put 99% of these pussies on the ground making horrific noises while they try to gasp for oxygen, bug eyed like a fish out of water.

Legally actionable injuries? None unless you actually break the sternum. Psychological terror rating: high.

Horus · 2016-06-04 06:13:00 · #33465

RVF Trump thread statistics as of the end of May.

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This is the lowest energy month since 2015. Things will pick up as soon as Crooked Hilary gets the Democratic nomination and Trump starts to really go after her and her creepy rapey husband.

RedPillUK · 2016-06-04 07:38:00 · #33466

Police aren't doing a good enough job protecting supporters from anti Trump terrorists, but instead of getting paramilities and biker gangs to protect Trump supporters at rallies, why can't the Trump campaign themselves hire much more security and put them outside the venue, guarding the metal fences and the way in? Is that not allowed? They could also guard the car parks to stop vandalism of Trump supporter's cars. It would be expensive though.

AnonymousBosch · 2016-06-04 07:46:00 · #33467

(06-04-2016 12:23 AM)Fast Eddie Wrote: But whatever. Frankly, the best course of action is to stack that paper and get the fuck out of Dodge, so do that if you can swing it.

I'm thinking a more complicated, long term game than simple righteous retaliation. People would need to be pissed off enough that the overton window would shift, and groupthink would pull everyone to the right extreme, meaning there'd be no place in the discussion for moderate viewpoints, who only seek to appease the left.

This would give us our best shot at purging socialism entirely. The last few years have shown us their arrogant endgame, and exactly the fascist tyrants they will be and how hellish and hysterical an existence would result. This isn't an election for America, this is the election.

Speaking hypothetically, you'd want the majority of society to be appalled enough, that if the authorities rounded up the socialist and enabling-journalist classes and unpersoned them in the middle of the night, no-one would defend them, or even care to look for them.

I don't think we're that far off: I was listening to a country album tonight and couldn't believe I was seeing a lyric like this coming from the Blue States:

Quote:"Turn off the tv / turn off the news / nothing to see / they're serving the blues / Bullshit on my tv / bullshit on my radio / Hollywood telling me how to be me / The bullshit's got to go."

This sort of thing is why i keep saying even the Normal People are waking up.

If you are at a rally and have a camera, study the techniques of visual emotional manipulation. A good source of this is Disney cartoons - they always had what I'd think of as 'the Sad, Crying Kitty Shivering Under A Tree In A Rainstorm' moment. You'll know it when you see it: it's a willing embrace of the pathetic. For some reason, Millennial Artists think their work is more artistically-valid if they can make people cry. Making people cry is the easiest thing in the world.

A good recent example is the start of that cartoon film about the old man who put balloons on his house to float away. Girls are always bawling within the first 5 minutes. It's all standard Disney tricks about innocence and joy being threatened that they've been using since 'The Old Mill', way back in the 30's.

Remember, looking for beauty and nobility being threatened by ugliness, the weaker the better. Frame the action. Get a sense of scale of one person against the crowd, or frame it so the entire picture is filled with oppressive bodies. Get down low so the protesters loom above the subject, heightening the sense of bullying and oppression. Capture the moment when the subject is looking downcast, not defiant.

Barry Scrotada · 2016-06-04 08:33:00 · #33468

(06-03-2016 07:55 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote: This is why, as shitty as it is, Trump supporters need to let this violence happen. Seeing 'innocent, non-violent people' being attacked and brutalised by the Rabid Far Left has huge cultural currency as a Propaganda Tool.

I hate to sound this brutally realistic but if one Perfect Victim is brutalised - if someone on the Right dies and the resulting images are as powerful a Dead Immigrant Child In The Surf - the Symbolic value of the moment as Propaganda will see the Radical Left cut adrift as the Moderate Left rapidly swings right, and lead to a much harder shift towards traditional values than would have otherwise been possible without it.

You have to keep calm and suck the attacks up. Document. Record. Try to capture those powerful images and maybe the image. Think of every Time Life moment of the last century.

We will have quite a collection by the end of 2016. My top three images of the election cycle thus far are:
-Bernie shouted down in Seattle
-White kid sprinting from street idiots
-Stoic man leading his family
Three different reactions to crass, violent, entitled, irrational, non-contributors.

El Chinito loco · 2016-06-04 09:09:00 · #33469

Mayor of San Jose Sam Liccardo is trying to blame Trump for what went down.

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So we see now that the left is openly using violence to intimidate voters and then the politicians in office facilitate this violence and then blame the victims. This is some real third world shit right here.

Trump calling out this piece of shit mayor.

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San Jose demographics..

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Yeah i'm sure police chief Eddie Garcia will do a fine job apprehending the perps involved.

Samseau · 2016-06-04 09:10:00 · #33470

Why are people saying these pics get no coverage?

These pics were on the front page of DRUDGE... a site that gets nearly 27 million views a day. How many views is enough for the doomsayers on this board?

Here's another link with coverage of these events: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/...ose-rally/

JacksonRev · 2016-06-04 09:13:00 · #33471

(06-04-2016 08:33 AM)Barry Scrotada Wrote: An old man with no future, accepting defeat

A young man protecting his future by retreating to fight another day

A father defiantly protecting his family and the future for his children

Roosh · 2016-06-04 09:38:00 · #33472

(06-04-2016 06:13 AM)Horus Wrote: RVF Trump thread statistics as of the end of May.

This is the lowest energy month since 2015. Things will pick up as soon as Crooked Hilary gets the Democratic nomination and Trump starts to really go after her and her creepy rapey husband.

You also have to account for the fact that there are a lot more threads where Trump is being discussed thanks to the creation of the politics subforum.

The Lizard of Oz · 2016-06-04 10:46:00 · #33473

(06-03-2016 07:22 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote: The jobs report released this morning was the worst one to be released in years (since 2010).

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...5857173505\

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We just had the worst jobs report since 2010.

6:14 AM - 4 Jun 2016

Yep. Trump needs to hammer this, if I were him I'd be on every news program over the weekend talking about the jobs report (and no longer talking about the judge, LOL). There is a real chance -- not necessarily a likelihood, but a real chance -- that this jobs report signals a serious economic slowdown. There is no reason for Trump not to get on it early.

philosophical_recovery · 2016-06-04 11:03:00 · #33474

Good compilation of some of the attacks. There are two versions, I'm linking the one without the background music:

Dusty · 2016-06-04 11:15:00 · #33475

Leonard D Neubache · 2016-06-04 11:19:00 · #33476

At the risk of being banned under the nohomo statutes...

(06-03-2016 11:18 PM)Latinopan Wrote:

...is it just me or is Captain Longdong VanBurro getting a little excited?

My cover story is that I only noticed while trying to identify the make and model of the guns they were carrying.

Days of Broken Arrows · 2016-06-04 11:24:00 · #33477

(06-04-2016 11:03 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote: Good compilation of some of the attacks. There are two versions, I'm linking the one without the background music:

Good choice. Here is the one with the background music. It totally trivializes a historically significant event. It reminds me of when Rachel had a baby on "Friends" and they used that annoying Enya song to make sure we knew it was "important."

Another person who ruins his videos with music is Colin Flaherty, author of "White Girl Bleed a Lot." He'll make a video showing extreme racial violence but he'll be playing fucking Sousa marches in the background. It almost comes off as unintentionally satirical -- not the effect he should be going for.

There's no better way for conservatives to appear out-of-touch than to use music like this in their videos. Attaching yourself to spaced-out female singer-songwriters or the goddamn 19th century when society is crumbling is a sure-fire way to lose an audience. Man, this put me in a bad mood.

Bacchus · 2016-06-04 11:31:00 · #33478

Good data on Trump's strength in the primaries.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2016/06/...nevitable/

Quote:As our data here show, Donald Trump’s primary victories on his way to the nomination were not simply a result of a crowded field. Among our national sample of likely Republican primary voters, Trump was favored over every other Republican candidate in one-on-one matchups. Moreover, he was viewed as the most electable candidate by a majority of Republican primary voters, and on his distinctive issues involving immigration even those favoring other candidates overwhelmingly agreed with him.

Dusty · 2016-06-04 11:43:00 · #33479

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