(10-13-2015 01:29 AM)Suave Wrote:  I met an 8 at an event the previous weekend. We developed solid rapport, so I got her number. After texting her, we decided to meet this coming Sunday evening. Yesterday evening though, she added me on fb. Now I don't want to add her. I reserve that for people I've known for a while plus for the obvious reason that I want to bang her.

Is it good idea to leave the friend request alone or text her upfront about me only adding/accepting people who I know well. I don't want to affect our meeting on Sunday, so I'm just taking a bit of precaution.

It's my standard protocol to tell chicks I don't have Facebook and leave it at that (I don't have my full name listed on Facebook or have a cellphone number or anything else connected to it).

I understand you are trying to take precautions for any possible shit test with this, but don't make it a focal point. Focus on the meetup. If it really concerns you then don't accept the request so you can at least remain mysterious to her.

If she asks about it, just say you rarely get on it and spit some bullshit about how you prefer in-person interactions and how people are so removed from them nowadays.

Need some input.

Text convo (some non-relevant fluff talk before this):

Me: You seem like a little sister.

Tinderella: Hahahaha explain why

Me: You seem totally fucking crazy. Am I right

Tinderella: Hahaa that's why I seem like little sister material? great then don't need to worry that you want to meet just for sex

Tinderella: Accidentally called hahaa

Tinderella: Just wanted to look up your number on *numberfindingsite*

I got her number on Tinder by "confessing" I wanted to make 10 000 babies with her and suggesting wine, after some nice banter.

Never gotten this shit test before. Ignore the sex shit test and accuse her of being a stalker just seems vanilla. Ideas?

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Context:
Prior to this text exchange we randomly got lunch together at school. She was on her phone for a lot of the time...until we started talking. Attraction was (and is) the current state of the seduction. Worked day game a la Roosh's Day Bang, dropping bait about travelling and my encounter with a gypsy. She loved it and we talked about overly touchy and intrusive people in big cities, as well as an event she was planning. Then she hugged me out of nowhere at the end. Looks like she hug closed me.

Then we had the above text convo (which for some reason doesn't appear to me on this forum)

I haven't qualified her yet, but I think I'm still in the attraction stage.

Ran into her randomly at the library, and she was on her phone texting a friend to study. Not much doing there except a quick hi.

Unsure of how to proceed with this one, she'd be my Mexican flag...

(10-15-2015 11:23 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Need some input.

Text convo (some non-relevant fluff talk before this):

Me: You seem like a little sister.

Tinderella: Hahahaha explain why

Me: You seem totally fucking crazy. Am I right

Tinderella: Hahaa that's why I seem like little sister material? great then don't need to worry that you want to meet just for sex

Tinderella: Accidentally called hahaa

Tinderella: Just wanted to look up your number on *numberfindingsite*

I got her number on Tinder by "confessing" I wanted to make 10 000 babies with her and suggesting wine, after some nice banter.

Never gotten this shit test before. Ignore the sex shit test and accuse her of being a stalker just seems vanilla. Ideas?

Tell her to come over for netflix and chill. Honestly, this sounds ripe for a zero date bang scenario.

Matched the other day, I opened with a "nice smile" comment.

Her: "I need to ask, are you a Dom ?"
Me: "I am. I like the control aspect"
Me: "Are you a sub ?"

Two days went by, then I get this -

Her: "I am. Sorry that I didnt message back sooner, I had a long weekend"

Next day (yesterday) I text back -
Me: "Then you'll need a spanking"

Within minutes -
Her: Hey, you're back"
Her: "And I need birthday spankings too, just turned 22"

I agreed, and gave her my number to move to text.

Nothing until this morning -
Her: "Hi, it's Lizard from Tinder"
Her: "Blah blah drinking last night blah blah"
Me: "Haha. Hey, where do you live ?"

She's about half an hour away. I get out that way every few days, so I wouldn't be going out of my way...

Her: "Are you looking for a relationship or hookups ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. What about you ?"
Her: "Depends for me"
Me: " I'll play your game for a bit. Depends on what ?"
Her: "I usually get attached"
Me: "Attached ? You're not going to super-glue yourself to something, are you ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. If more happens, then it happens"
Her: "But you're not expecting more to happen ? I don't have sex on the first date"
Me: "What about the second date lol"
Her: "Depends on if I feel like there's a connection"

I was considering nexting her, but her re-engaging on Tinder, then texting me, tells me a bang is virtually in the bag.

Any tips on how to proceed from here would be appreciated.

(10-20-2015 11:03 AM)George is King Wrote:  Matched the other day, I opened with a "nice smile" comment.

Her: "I need to ask, are you a Dom ?"
Me: "I am. I like the control aspect"
Me: "Are you a sub ?"

Two days went by, then I get this -

Her: "I am. Sorry that I didnt message back sooner, I had a long weekend"

Next day (yesterday) I text back -
Me: "Then you'll need a spanking"

Within minutes -
Her: Hey, you're back"
Her: "And I need birthday spankings too, just turned 22"

I agreed, and gave her my number to move to text.

Nothing until this morning -
Her: "Hi, it's Lizard from Tinder"
Her: "Blah blah drinking last night blah blah"
Me: "Haha. Hey, where do you live ?"

She's about half an hour away. I get out that way every few days, so I wouldn't be going out of my way...

Her: "Are you looking for a relationship or hookups ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. What about you ?"
Her: "Depends for me"
Me: " I'll play your game for a bit. Depends on what ?"
Her: "I usually get attached"
Me: "Attached ? You're not going to super-glue yourself to something, are you ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. If more happens, then it happens"
Her: "But you're not expecting more to happen ? I don't have sex on the first date"
Me: "What about the second date lol"
Her: "Depends on if I feel like there's a connection"

I was considering nexting her, but her re-engaging on Tinder, then texting me, tells me a bang is virtually in the bag.

Any tips on how to proceed from here would be appreciated.

My analysis is that you need to maintain a more dominant and experienced frame and that this bang is not in the bag yet.

When you said "What about the second date lol" you totally lost me. No reason to add "lol" to the end and it's pretty thirsty to state it that way. Your ratio of words to hers is too high in her favor and you fall into her frame too easily.

I would say something along the lines of:

"Well a good sub deserves a firm hand."

Or just ignore and go straight into asking her to grab a drink. Tell her to wear a skirt and heels.

If you're a Dom you should know that getting into her head and letting her feel like you are confident and experienced so that she'll be able to depend on your direction is critical. I'm not getting any of this from your text exchange so far.

Appreciate the analysis, AO,

In person I mix up humor with the dominance. It's a deadpan humor, and works well... in person. I was trying to have the same humor through text, but I see your point now on the 'lol' part.

And I now see more on what you posted about keeping frame.

I did have a few more texts, told her I'd be in the area tomorrow and let's meet for a drink.
She gave me some shit tests (after all the dom/sub/bsdm talk) about her not being able to meet because she's "looking for something serious" and it seems like I'm "looking for more like a hookup".

My response was that I'd be at X tonight, stop by if you want to have a drink.

Her: "I don't have a car, I can't really meet somewhere."
Me: "I think we could have fun. I'll be at X at 8:00 if you can figure something out."
Her: "I get out of work at 7:30 and the walk is half an hour"

Then I read your post, AO. And remembered about keeping frame.

Me: "Then get home, put on a skirt and heels. I'll pick you up at 9:00."
Her: "Skirt ? Can it be a dress ?"
Me: "What kind of dress ?"
Her: "I've got a dozen or so to choose from."
Me: "Show me. Put them on and send pics"
Her: "Ok"

She's sent five pics so far.

I see more now what you mean as far as the dom/sub and controlling frame.

Sometimes I just like to respond "penis"

Her: "Blah blah blah blah blah!"
Me: "cool"
Her: "Blah blah blah blah blah!"
Me: "good stuff"
Her: "But blah blah blah and we should blah blah blah"
Me: "penis"
Her: "What?"
Me: "penis"
Her: "I don't understand."
Me: "ok"
Her: "But blah blah blah blah blah blah blah!!!"

(10-20-2015 09:07 PM)George is King Wrote:  Appreciate the analysis, AO,

In person I mix up humor with the dominance. It's a deadpan humor, and works well... in person. I was trying to have the same humor through text, but I see your point now on the 'lol' part.

And I now see more on what you posted about keeping frame.

I did have a few more texts, told her I'd be in the area tomorrow and let's meet for a drink.
She gave me some shit tests (after all the dom/sub/bsdm talk) about her not being able to meet because she's "looking for something serious" and it seems like I'm "looking for more like a hookup".

My response was that I'd be at X tonight, stop by if you want to have a drink.

Her: "I don't have a car, I can't really meet somewhere."
Me: "I think we could have fun. I'll be at X at 8:00 if you can figure something out."
Her: "I get out of work at 7:30 and the walk is half an hour"

Then I read your post, AO. And remembered about keeping frame.

Me: "Then get home, put on a skirt and heels. I'll pick you up at 9:00."
Her: "Skirt ? Can it be a dress ?"
Me: "What kind of dress ?"
Her: "I've got a dozen or so to choose from."
Me: "Show me. Put them on and send pics"
Her: "Ok"

She's sent five pics so far.

I see more now what you mean as far as the dom/sub and controlling frame.

Good exchange.

I would have responded "no."

Still, a pretty good exchange.

Thanks, Hank,

In her defense (?), It's been in the mid/low 40's and windy the past couple of days, and supposed to be like that tomorrow as well. So wearing a skirt would almost guarantee the "It's so cold" complaining every 5 minutes.

But she ain't gettin' away with wearing some Little House On The Prairie dress, either.

(10-20-2015 09:37 PM)George is King Wrote:  Thanks, Hank,

In her defense (?), It's been in the mid/low 40's and windy the past couple of days, and supposed to be like that tomorrow as well. So wearing a skirt would almost guarantee the "It's so cold" complaining every 5 minutes.

But she ain't gettin' away with wearing some Little House On The Prairie dress, either.

This is the thing...

Women do not think with logic brains. They are overgrown children who operate on emotion. If she's into you and you tell her to do X, she'll do X. Not only will she do X, but she'll like that you're so assertive. Just like if you tell a child that if they do ABC Santa Claus won't come and give them presents.

It's dumb, it's sexist, and it goes against everything you've ever been told. I know this.

That aside, your text game is still solid. I doubt this will fuck anything up.

(10-20-2015 11:03 AM)George is King Wrote:  ...
Her: "Are you looking for a relationship or hookups ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. What about you ?"
Her: "Depends for me"
Me: " I'll play your game for a bit. Depends on what ?"
Her: "I usually get attached"
Me: "Attached ? You're not going to super-glue yourself to something, are you ?"
Me: "I go with the flow. If more happens, then it happens"
Her: "But you're not expecting more to happen ? I don't have sex on the first date"
Me: "What about the second date lol"
Her: "Depends on if I feel like there's a connection"
...

Any girl who says "I don't have sex on the first date.." ..WILL have sex on the first date. This is just her ASD kicking in. Recognize it for what it is and game on.

Having said that, getting sexual over text with a girl you only met online (no real life interaction) can backfire quickly if you take it too far. It's best to reply to these sorts of things in a playful way..


"That's a relief. I treasure my virginity"

"Woah slow down missy. I'm not that easy. You have to pinch my butt and tell me I'm pretty first"


Keep things light and playful until you meet. Then you can segue the good vibes into kino, dirty talk, etc. from a much better (non-creepy) position

(10-09-2015 09:11 PM)SuperBock Wrote:  Thanks for the feedback guys, much appreciated.
Here is my next one from tonight on tinder. I thought I did well to recover interest from a shaky start but adversarial tone then made it difficult to escalate sexually.

.....

Honestly you're just poking her, keep it light and funny, pull the trigger and number close her. You don't want to be another duded messaging her on Tinder.

(10-12-2015 09:30 PM)_Samo_ Wrote:  This girl flaked on me around a month ago when we were supposed to meet, she is a really low prospect and I contact her when I send restart messages out once a month or so. When she flaked she was quite apologetic and offered another day, I ignored her message at the time, anyway after some small talk today:

Me: Do you have plans for this week?

Her: I don't have any plans but unfortunately I cannot meet with you

Me: You think I want to meet with you?

Her: I think so, earlier you wanted but if not then that's even better.

Me: You must have a high opinion of yourself (I think this was a bad thing to say but her attitude kind of surprised me a bit)

Her: Yes I do. Well, I'm just really curious as to why you're writing to me?

Me: You gave me your contact so I can talk to you if I want to, I don't have to explain myself to you. You don't seem the pleasant girl as I earlier thought. (Again I think this was bad)

Her: No you don't have to right and what you think is not really my concern.

Basically, I know this is completely dead and I'll probably delete her contact tomorrow because I think there is no chance to get this girl out. But for future reference if someone can help me with what I should of said and where I possibly went wrong, would be appreciated. Also the texts were in a foreign language (her native) which I have translated to English, I don't really talk to girls so formally.

Dude you knew in your gut this was a dead end, you let your emotions get the best of you.

Never show your anger/frustration with a woman, she's just laughing and showing it to her friends.

When she said she can't, I'd of found out why then teased her about it. Especially if it's the "I'm seeing someone" "have a BF" test.

(10-12-2015 09:49 PM)TrifeLife Wrote:  Links to any solid text game guide/overviews?

This entire thread, the OKC thread, and the Tinder thread. Do some searches. Guys to reference delicious tacos and some text game from bodybuilding.com

Met an attractive chick to where we have a similar work background so something in common to work off.

Had two ~20min conversations on two separate nights, where I of course initiated the 1st.
She actually initiated the 2nd.
Got her phone no. as a result from the 2nd on a Friday.
Then I sent a txt on the Sunday to catch up for a coffee on the Monday; as the Monday was a public holiday.

She initially agreed without pause.
Monday morning she decided to inform me that she was "in contact with someone else" & wanted to know if the coffee outing would still go ahead if we remain "just friends".


Being a single mother I figured she was stretching the truth & / or just being overly cautious due to her being a single mother.

So we met anyway as the venue was a ~20 minute walk from where I live & I figured I'd just carry on as if she hadn't said anything.

Turns out, from that conversation that she is a couple of years older than me (I thought she was younger).
Plus her two kids are to two separate guys & she was never married...


So my interest had essentially gone out the window for the most part, yet I figured I'd just use the situation to practice game & what not.

There was a stand-up comedy event coming up. So on the Thursday following I asked if she was a comedy fan.

...radio silence...

That was about two weeks ago.
Figured for my own amusement I'd see if the "friends" deal was still in play.

Her response was to reiterate that she had met someone is a "romantic sense" & she wasn't sure even a friendship could continue because of the "other guy".

My response (with a big hat tip to Chateau Heartiste) :

'boyfriend' aye? Meh, doesn't bother me. Is he the jealous type? ;-)

Her response shortly afterwards :

"No not jealous. It's more to do with how I feel about new male friendships, in relation to another male in my life. that's all! (some emoticon followed)"
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I'm tempted to txt that I'll make her feel something with a back massage (cause I give damn good back massages).

Yet I open it to the floor for any other witty responses.

It should go without saying that I don't care if anything transpires from this.
I've got three other options to game anyway.
Plus whatever the oncoming weekend brings.

Why are you chasing a girl with two bastards, in a relationship, that wants to be 'just friends?'

^Is it really that bad in Australia? An older woman, with 2 bastard children, who is already dating someone, just wants to be friend..., if this was in the states, I would say to forget her and game other women. But apparently things are that bad in Australia where this is a woman worth gaming?

(10-23-2015 12:31 AM)glugger Wrote:  Why are you chasing a girl with two bastards, in a relationship, that wants to be 'just friends?'

As stated, practice whereby I know it's a lost cause for more reasons than one.
So I can amuse myself with the circumstance & not care about the outcome.
Nor expect anything to transpire.

(10-23-2015 07:00 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  As stated, practice whereby I know it's a lost cause for more reasons than one.
So I can amuse myself with the circumstance & not care about the outcome.
Nor expect anything to transpire.

I know what you're thinking. But you're not going to get anything useful out of "practicing" with a girl who has made it clear she has no interest in you.

This should be a lesson in handling rejection, not practicing new techniques. At this point, anything you say no matter how funny, mundane, or witty is just going to make her roll her eyes at you.

This draws you into a negative feedback loop. You may very well have some clever texts up your sleeve that ultimately go nowhere with her. This hurts your confidence and you'll begin to doubt yourself. This is artificial feedback. Those same texts could work wonders on a girl who's actually interested in you.

Stop punishing yourself.

(10-23-2015 08:37 AM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 07:00 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  As stated, practice whereby I know it's a lost cause for more reasons than one.
So I can amuse myself with the circumstance & not care about the outcome.
Nor expect anything to transpire.

I know what you're thinking. But you're not going to get anything useful out of "practicing" with a girl who has made it clear she has no interest in you.

This should be a lesson in handling rejection, not practicing new techniques. At this point, anything you say no matter how funny, mundane, or witty is just going to make her roll her eyes at you.

This draws you into a negative feedback loop. You may very well have some clever texts up your sleeve that ultimately go nowhere with her. This hurts your confidence and you'll begin to doubt yourself. This is artificial feedback. Those same texts could work wonders on a girl who's actually interested in you.

Stop punishing yourself.

What's the best way to respond to a girl who's just broke her radio silence with 'are you alive?'

(10-23-2015 04:19 PM)Bey Wrote:  What's the best way to respond to a girl who's just broke her radio silence with 'are you alive?'

"Who is this"

or

"Barely. I was tied to a chair after being ambushed by ninjas. I left one of them alive.."

(10-23-2015 04:41 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:19 PM)Bey Wrote:  What's the best way to respond to a girl who's just broke her radio silence with 'are you alive?'

"Who is this"

or

"Barely. I was tied to a chair after being ambushed by ninjas. I left one of them alive.."

What about something along the lines of 'Yeah, your assassination attempt didn't quite work out'...but worded better?

I'll never understand guys who want to shoot back something or send a nuke text to a girl who shows no interest or states she's just looking for friends.

There's no point, move on, stop wasting energy and texts that can be used on another girl you're gaming.


Bey - how long was the radio silence ?

(10-23-2015 05:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Bey - how long was the radio silence ?

A month.

I was also thinking of giving her a bit of radio silence myself (since I wrote the last message previously); although I don't know if that might come across as 'bitter'. But on the other hand, better that than to be 'at her service', I guess.

(10-23-2015 05:35 PM)Bey Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 05:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Bey - how long was the radio silence ?

A month.

I was also thinking of giving her a bit of radio silence myself (since I wrote the last message previously); although I don't know if that might come across as 'bitter'. But on the other hand, better that than to be 'at her service', I guess.

Wait a day, then reply to her text.

You can make something up, like traveling, work, a smart ass response.

"who is this" is a great response - stings her a bit, gauges her interest, and it's a valid excuse

adjust when she responds

"oh my phone went for a swim at a party" or straight tell her "didn't hear from you, thought you weren't interested" or something like that.