(10-23-2015 05:23 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I'll never understand guys who want to shoot back something or send a nuke text to a girl who shows no interest or states she's just looking for friends.

There's no point, move on, stop wasting energy and texts that can be used on another girl you're gaming.

Perhaps the previously referenced 'practice' isn't quite the ideal term.

More-so data collection.
I can read other guys text exchanges until the cows come home.
Yet there is only going to be so much relevance to me.
Where-as on certain occasions, I'm merely curious to see what nonsense, BS, or juvenile reaction
a girl may have to what I compile.

It's not as if I don't have the capacity to completely cut ties when faced with BS.
Dated a cute 25 year old at the start of the year. She eventually claimed to have met a new boyfriend &
wanted to be 'just friends'.
The 'boyfriend' was an obvious & absolute fabrication, so I cut ties immediately & never contacted her again.

Yet in other instances, I may continue the conversation out of mere intrigue.
Whether it is to reinforce 'red-pill truths', or to verify what I see online with real-world examples.
Or to just laugh at the previously mentioned juvenile female BS.

(10-23-2015 06:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Wait a day, then reply to her text.

Would it be detrimental to wait for longer? I don't think a day is really that long to have to wait.

(10-23-2015 06:17 PM)Bey Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 06:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Wait a day, then reply to her text.

Would it be detrimental to wait for longer? I don't think a day is really that long to have to wait.

Whatever your preference is, I wouldn't a few days, maybe 2 at most.

She's obviously texting you, I'd gauge her interest when you respond, if the iron's hot, strike it, if not, just move on.

(10-23-2015 06:01 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Perhaps the previously referenced 'practice' isn't quite the ideal term.

More-so data collection.
I can read other guys text exchanges until the cows come home.
Yet there is only going to be so much relevance to me.
Where-as on certain occasions, I'm merely curious to see what nonsense, BS, or juvenile reaction
a girl may have to what I compile.

It's not as if I don't have the capacity to completely cut ties when faced with BS.
Dated a cute 25 year old at the start of the year. She eventually claimed to have met a new boyfriend &
wanted to be 'just friends'.
The 'boyfriend' was an obvious & absolute fabrication, so I cut ties immediately & never contacted her again.

Yet in other instances, I may continue the conversation out of mere intrigue.
Whether it is to reinforce 'red-pill truths', or to verify what I see online with real-world examples.
Or to just laugh at the previously mentioned juvenile female BS.

Stop intellectualizing the situation.

It's a dead end.

"Practice" moving on and delete her "data" (digits).

This is an advice thread for live leads, not dead ones.

(10-23-2015 04:41 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 04:19 PM)Bey Wrote:  What's the best way to respond to a girl who's just broke her radio silence with 'are you alive?'

"Who is this"

or

"Barely. I was tied to a chair after being ambushed by ninjas. I left one of them alive.."

Seconded the part in bold (my emphasis).

(10-23-2015 07:54 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  Stop intellectualizing the situation.
It's a dead end.
"Practice" moving on and delete her "data" (digits).
This is an advice thread for live leads, not dead ones.

Heh.
If you're familiar with the Meyer-Briggs personality test.
I often have the result of an 'INTJ'.

http://www.16personalities.com/intj-rela...ips-dating

I always over analyse & evaluate matters to the nth degree.

Yet as stated prior. I have three other potential options already in play.
Plus I just had a social lunch where-by I had a conversation with a girl new in town & got her phone no. without any difficulty.

Fear not. I very much have an abundance mentality.

(10-23-2015 04:19 PM)Bey Wrote:  What's the best way to respond to a girl who's just broke her radio silence with 'are you alive?'

That's crazy I just got this same message a few weeks ago from this girl I use to fuck last semester.

I just told her no I'm a ghost now. Then she started saying sine generic how have u been stuff and then stayed teeming me all this emotional bullshit. I should have not responded at all now that I think about it.

(10-23-2015 11:41 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 07:54 PM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  Stop intellectualizing the situation.
It's a dead end.
"Practice" moving on and delete her "data" (digits).
This is an advice thread for live leads, not dead ones.

Heh.
If you're familiar with the Meyer-Briggs personality test.
I often have the result of an 'INTJ'.

http://www.16personalities.com/intj-rela...ips-dating

I always over analyse & evaluate matters to the nth degree.

Yet as stated prior. I have three other potential options already in play.
Plus I just had a social lunch where-by I had a conversation with a girl new in town & got her phone no. without any difficulty.

Fear not. I very much have an abundance mentality.

Do people read into that stuff? I thought only girls posted that stuff on their Tinder profiles.

Reminds of the whole Astrological crap.

One of my bio lines on tinder was:

My Myers Briggs is IDFWU

(I Don't Fuck With You)

(10-24-2015 05:01 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Do people read into that stuff? I thought only girls posted that stuff on their Tinder profiles.
Reminds of the whole Astrological crap.
One of my bio lines on tinder was:
My Myers Briggs is IDFWU
(I Don't Fuck With You)

Normally I wouldn't bother at all with such things either.
Yet the numerous correlations for the full personality description are so uncanny.
I was laughing throughout for how close the example was to myself.

It's just another way in which to evaluate human behaviour.
& are we not all here on this forum to gain an upper-hand on human behaviour, especially female behaviour?

Met this girl at a nightclub 2 nights ago. Got her number. Last night i sent her the first text.

Me: I didn't see you on the dance floor last night

Her: Well that just means you weren't looking hard enough!

Me: Or maybe it meant your dancing was so average I didn't notice.

Her: Well that works both ways then since I don't recall seeing you either.

Me: ouch, serve return.

Not sure what to say after this. Any suggestions?

Been getting the number of this hot chick from tinder. she said we could meet on tinder, i asked for her number to coordinate the final logistics which she gave to me. we agreed on Monday that we meet on friday.
thursday evening i texted her suggesting a place and time which she did not reply too.
Sunday night (today) i texted her to see if she is still up for it:

ME: Did you die?

SHE: Why?


I don't want to reply this beta shit: "because you havent replied" ... i was thinking of going down the way of saying "only bad girls don't reply to messages. you know what happens to bad girls?"
--> not sure if this is too much or just the wrong direction

(10-25-2015 03:18 PM)studmuffin52 Wrote:  Met this girl at a nightclub 2 nights ago. Got her number. Last night i sent her the first text.
Me: I didn't see you on the dance floor last night.
Her: Well that just means you weren't looking hard enough!
Me: Or maybe it meant your dancing was so average I didn't notice.
Her: Well that works both ways then since I don't recall seeing you either.
Me: ouch, serve return.
Not sure what to say after this. Any suggestions?

Some rambling thoughts.
"ouch, serve return" - depending on her age or knowledge. She's likely not going to have
gotten that reference unless she mentioned tennis.
Also that may indicate you're on the 'back foot'.

Perhaps a response of - "Then I challenge you to a dance off."
(note the lack of a ? mark or a ! mark).
Puts you back on the front foot.

(10-25-2015 04:19 PM)Special1 Wrote:  Been getting the number of this hot chick from tinder. she said we could meet on tinder, i asked for her number to coordinate the final logistics which she gave to me. we agreed on Monday that we meet on friday.
thursday evening i texted her suggesting a place and time which she did not reply too.
Sunday night (today) i texted her to see if she is still up for it:

ME: Did you die?

SHE: Why?


I don't want to reply this beta shit: "because you havent replied" ... i was thinking of going down the way of saying "only bad girls don't reply to messages. you know what happens to bad girls?"
--> not sure if this is too much or just the wrong direction

If anything, I would just write "Because." Actually, I would not write anything at all. You suggested meeting for drinks and she didn't respond. Ignore her for 2 weeks and restart later, but call instead of text. Actually, I would likely just file this into a dead number and then some day, on a Sunday afternoon, just break down and call ALL of them, and hopefully get a few bites and girls that want to meet up.

(10-25-2015 04:19 PM)Special1 Wrote:  Been getting the number of this hot chick from tinder. she said we could meet on tinder, i asked for her number to coordinate the final logistics which she gave to me. we agreed on Monday that we meet on friday.
thursday evening i texted her suggesting a place and time which she did not reply too.
Sunday night (today) i texted her to see if she is still up for it:

ME: Did you die?

SHE: Why?


I don't want to reply this beta shit: "because you havent replied" ... i was thinking of going down the way of saying "only bad girls don't reply to messages. you know what happens to bad girls?"
--> not sure if this is too much or just the wrong direction

I think you screwed this up with a few aspects:

1. You setup a date for Friday. Friday/Saturday are prime time and not only is she likely going to have something come up that's better (or at least something she'll feel obligated to go to instead), but you shouldn't be offering her prime time in your schedule until she's proven herself.

2. You waited until Thursday to set a time and location. This leads me to believe that you never even had a time/activity set.

3. You didn't follow up her radio silence with a call. Much harder for her to ignore a call. Or an alternative would be to text her again Friday morning with a "made other plans."

At this point I'd just respond with, "fri" or I'd just delete her number. She probably got banged out Friday by the guy that better followed the texting guides. Good one to learn from.

(10-25-2015 03:18 PM)studmuffin52 Wrote:  Met this girl at a nightclub 2 nights ago. Got her number. Last night i sent her the first text.

Me: I didn't see you on the dance floor last night

Her: Well that just means you weren't looking hard enough!

Me: Or maybe it meant your dancing was so average I didn't notice.

Her: Well that works both ways then since I don't recall seeing you either.

Me: ouch, serve return.

Not sure what to say after this. Any suggestions?

Ouch indeed. I'd either plow through and ignore your own really weak text and send her a link to a youtube video of some ridiculously bad moves (or ridiculously good) and the text, "wait, you sure you didn't see this"

Then when she inevitably laughs, maintain frame and guide the conversation towards a meetup. You tried to neg her but it was just a straight insult. You could've replied to her "maybe you weren't looking hard enough" text with an agree and amplify like, "yeah this white girl wasted chick kept trying to grind me"

Anyway, good luck with that one, you really knocked it out bounds but maybe you can recover.

She seems keen. Continuation from my last convo

Me: "Ouch, serve return. We obviously didn't get to know each other well enough, how about we grab a coffee/drinks this week?"

Her: "I would like that. I'm free Saturday."

Me: "Can't do Saturday. Friday's better"

Her: "Sorry I've already got plans for Friday. Maybe Sunday?"

Me: "Yep. Sunday's good for me, ill be in the city around the afternoon. Should be good weather for a cocktail."

Her: "Awesome. Sounds good to me. What are your go to places for drinks?"

What is something good to go on from here. Feels like it deserves a witty line.

(10-27-2015 08:28 AM)studmuffin52 Wrote:  She seems keen. Continuation from my last convo

Me: "Ouch, serve return. We obviously didn't get to know each other well enough, how about we grab a coffee/drinks this week?"

Her: "I would like that. I'm free Saturday."

Me: "Can't do Saturday. Friday's better"

Her: "Sorry I've already got plans for Friday. Maybe Sunday?"

Me: "Yep. Sunday's good for me, ill be in the city around the afternoon. Should be good weather for a cocktail."

Her: "Awesome. Sounds good to me. What are your go to places for drinks?"

What is something good to go on from here. Feels like it deserves a witty line.

I would personally save this topic for in-person conversation, no need to have a long drawn out text conversation at this point since you've already met her in person and she's down for a meetup.

Just have her meet you at (x) public place within walking distance of your venue and tell her the venue is a surprise.

I have a second date tonight lined up with a girl I liked from our first date. We met for drinks, took a walk and kissed good night. She was an online meet.

We set a date for tonight over text this weekend. I just texted her:

Me: Hey, hope your week's going well. I look forward to tonight.
Her: Can we meet a little earlier? One of my best friends came in town yesterday and she wants to go to a show tonight.

Context: we planned on going to dinner, after which, I was going to attempt to get her to my place for drinks and .....you know.
That will now be tough to impossible with her 'thinking' about her friend. I hate that shit.

Further context - I'm going out of town tomorrow morning for about 2 weeks. Which means, it would be at least two weeks before I could see her again....which, of course means, with today's women, I likely will not as that's a big time gap. So, it's see her tonight with the contingent of her having to leave early to go out with her friend....or hoping to get her all to myself in 2 weeks when I get back to town.

I like this girl and would like to get her 'hooked' in a sense before leaving town...but she threw this BS in the works.

(10-27-2015 01:50 PM)robreke Wrote:  I like this girl and would like to get her 'hooked' in a sense before leaving town...but she threw this BS in the works.

First thing, you should never tell a girl you haven't banged "I look forward to tonight".. it sends the wrong message. If you were doing it as a way to confirm the date, it's better to say something like "7pm might be kinda early.. can we make it 7:02?" This will get her to laugh and also helps you confirm it's on.

As far as her going to a show with a friend, she could be telling the truth or setting up an excuse to bail at a certain time. No way to know for sure. Just roll with it. If the date's going well, she might just 'forget' about her engagement with her friend. Be cool with whatever the outcome. At least this way if she likes you, you'll have a more solid chance of sealing the deal when you get back in 2 weeks

(10-27-2015 01:50 PM)robreke Wrote:  I have a second date tonight lined up with a girl I liked from our first date. We met for drinks, took a walk and kissed good night. She was an online meet.

We set a date for tonight over text this weekend. I just texted her:

Me: Hey, hope your week's going well. I look forward to tonight.
Her: Can we meet a little earlier? One of my best friends came in town yesterday and she wants to go to a show tonight.

Context: we planned on going to dinner, after which, I was going to attempt to get her to my place for drinks and .....you know.
That will now be tough to impossible with her 'thinking' about her friend. I hate that shit.

Further context - I'm going out of town tomorrow morning for about 2 weeks. Which means, it would be at least two weeks before I could see her again....which, of course means, with today's women, I likely will not as that's a big time gap. So, it's see her tonight with the contingent of her having to leave early to go out with her friend....or hoping to get her all to myself in 2 weeks when I get back to town.

I like this girl and would like to get her 'hooked' in a sense before leaving town...but she threw this BS in the works.

That's a tough situation, but really depends on how much you want to spend time with this girl.

Me personally, I would tell her I can't do earlier. Don't let her stuff your plans in between work and her grrrls night out.

Basically tell her to go with the original plan. If she accepts your frame then game on. If no go and she tries to reschedule then say you're leaving town for a couple weeks but you'll try to hit her up when you come back (dhv?)

Then again like I said, if you're really into her then I guess meetup for a but more rapport and comfort building. I personally wouldn't bother especially if I knew there was basically a 0% chance of bang and I wouldn't be seeing her for at least a couple weeks again. There's other girls.

EDIT: ^SFG has good advice too. Better than mine.

(10-27-2015 02:29 PM)SomeFcksGiven Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 01:50 PM)robreke Wrote:  I like this girl and would like to get her 'hooked' in a sense before leaving town...but she threw this BS in the works.

First thing, you should never tell a girl you haven't banged "I look forward to tonight".. it sends the wrong message. If you were doing it as a way to confirm the date, it's better to say something like "7pm might be kinda early.. can we make it 7:02?" This will get her to laugh and also helps you confirm it's on.

As far as her going to a show with a friend, she could be telling the truth or setting up an excuse to bail at a certain time. No way to know for sure. Just roll with it. If the date's going well, she might just 'forget' about her engagement with her friend. Be cool with whatever the outcome. At least this way if she likes you, you'll have a more solid chance of sealing the deal when you get back in 2 weeks

Solid advice in second paragraph. I disagree saying I look forward to tonight is too needy sounding. I've been using that a while now and had plenty of first date bangs where I texted that to confirm.

Had a date with a chick, no bang due to timing and logistics, which I couldn't avoid due to our busy schedules. I'm trying to push for a second meeting, but she's got 3-4 exams between the 29th Oct (this Friday) till 15th Nov. I'll be near her uni on the 28th Oct for work and asked if she's keen for some coffee during lunch time. She responded within 10mins with:

"Heyy. This will be hard as my exams start on Friday but maybe sometime after I finish on the 15th of November "

Should I push a bit and say something like "Its during my work lunch time so shouldn't take more than 30-45mins. It'll be short and sweet"

Or should I try for this Sunday evening and ask her to hang out for an hour or so?

(10-27-2015 04:42 PM)Suave Wrote:  Had a date with a chick, no bang due to timing and logistics, which I couldn't avoid due to our busy schedules. I'm trying to push for a second meeting, but she's got 3-4 exams between the 29th Oct (this Friday) till 15th Nov. I'll be near her uni on the 28th Oct for work and asked if she's keen for some coffee during lunch time. She responded within 10mins with:

"Heyy. This will be hard as my exams start on Friday but maybe after I finish on the 15th of November "

Should I push a bit and say something like "Gotcha. But as its during my work lunch time it shouldn't take more than 30-45mins. It'll be fun"

Or should I try for this Sunday evening and ask her to hang out for an hour or so?

She's putting you off for a few weeks, so that will be tough to resurrect. I'd take the hint and not push as the interest doesn't seem to be here: "maybe after I finish on the 15th"

also - you're not going to accomplish anything with a middle of the day 45 minute coffee date. Go for drinks in the evening after dinner time. Evening is more romantic and gives you more of a chance to get some action / bounce to your place.

I'd wait a few hours and send a low investment text: "sounds good"

Maybe text her in a week just to stay on the radar: "hey hope exams are going good" .... then after the 15th text for a night time alcohol-related meet up. In the meantime, build other more interested prospects.

The background of this girl is unique. Should I take that into consideration? This girl has been in a Western country for two years and of Syrian origin. That being said she is definitely more liberal than your typical Syrian girl i.e. drinks alcohol (with moderation), not particularly religious, does yoga, etc. She is still obviously more conservative than your typical Western chick. We developed a solid rapport on our first meeting. As she's not of a Western background, can I afford to be a bit more aggressive?

You're right about my type of date. There's a lovely rose garden close to the centre of the city. I was planning on changing venues there after getting a bit of coffee and then escalating as it is fairly quiet and distant from the public.

(10-27-2015 05:10 PM)Suave Wrote:  The background of this girl is unique. Should I take that into consideration? This girl has been in a Western country for two years and of Syrian origin. That being said she is definitely more liberal than your typical Syrian girl i.e. drinks alcohol (with moderation), not particularly religious, does yoga, etc. She is still obviously more conservative than your typical Western chick. We developed a solid rapport on our first meeting. As she's not of a Western background, can I afford to be a bit more aggressive?

You're right about my type of date. There's a lovely rose garden close to the centre of the city. I was planning on changing venues there after getting a bit of coffee and then escalating as it is fairly quiet and distant from the public.

we all like to think the girl's we're pursuing/dating are 'unique' but a woman is a woman. lack of interest in texts are lack of interest, regardless of what female sends them.

You can develop 'solid rapport' all day long with girls from anywhere in the world on first dates and they can ghost or lose interest the next day. If they show lack of interest is getting together again, or are wanting to put it off for a while, it is what it is. The medium is the message.

I've said what I would do. If you think she's 'different' have at it but you may come across as too thirsty.

Ok so here's my situation. I started seeing a girl who apparently has a boyfriend in her home country. Anyway we went out a couple of times, and one night she got drunk and let her guard down and I kissed her but didn't fuck her. A few days later I invited her to my home, she slept at my place but still didn't fuck her cause she said she was feeling very guilty. Anyway I invited her once again to my place and she finally gave in yesterday. She was feeling very guilty but at the same time she looked like she was falling in love with me. And today I got a text from her saying she went yesterday clubbing and got really drunk(after I fucked her) and that now she has some problems because apparently she found out she kissed 3 guys and they are all mad at her now. So why the fuck did she message me that? I don't like a bitch telling me how she kissed 3 different guys in the same day after I fucked her so how should I respond? I really wanna put this hoe in her place.

I'd probably just ignore her for a few days and not even respond to the "I just made out with 3 guys after you fucked me" text. Then tell her to come over and fuck her brains out again. She is most definitely fucking other guys, so be sure to keep gaming other women. You can still fuck her, but don't have any illusions here about teaching her a lesson. She sounds like the town bike.