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MiscBrah · 2016-04-04 20:58:00 · #28080
(04-04-2016 08:36 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I think all Trump needs to do is win either one of these. If he wins both, he probably gets to 1237, which would be ideal. But even if wins just one of the two he'll be close enough that he'll be the nominee.

I read an article today about how Ted Cruz is quietly recruiting delegates and amassing a strong ground game. As a result, many of Trump's Arizona delegates will go to Cruz. I definitely need to do more research as to how the overall convention process works but what should I make of Cruz trying to snipe Trump's delegates?
Kickb · 2016-04-04 21:02:00 · #28081
I think if Trump gets 1237 then all of the delegates are bound to him. But if he gets less or the RNC changes the rules to 1400 delegates then the RNC can do the brokerd convention plan and the delegates get to vote for who they want to be the candidate.
Hotwheels · 2016-04-04 21:04:00 · #28082
(04-04-2016 08:58 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 08:36 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I think all Trump needs to do is win either one of these. If he wins both, he probably gets to 1237, which would be ideal. But even if wins just one of the two he'll be close enough that he'll be the nominee.

I read an article today about how Ted Cruz is quietly recruiting delegates and amassing a strong ground game. As a result, many of Trump's Arizona delegates will go to Cruz. I definitely need to do more research as to how the overall convention process works but what should I make of Cruz trying to snipe Trump's delegates?


Even if Cruz was to pull that off the electorate would be so pissed off Trump supporters would run away from him.

Likely to a Trump third party.

Cruz and the RNC would rather burn it down than let Trump in the WH.
The Lizard of Oz · 2016-04-04 21:09:00 · #28083
(04-04-2016 08:58 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 08:36 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I think all Trump needs to do is win either one of these. If he wins both, he probably gets to 1237, which would be ideal. But even if wins just one of the two he'll be close enough that he'll be the nominee.

I read an article today about how Ted Cruz is quietly recruiting delegates and amassing a strong ground game. As a result, many of Trump's Arizona delegates will go to Cruz. I definitely need to do more research as to how the overall convention process works but what should I make of Cruz trying to snipe Trump's delegates?

The key thing to understand is that the identity of the delegates does not matter for the first ballot in a convention (because they are bound) but it matters a lot for the later ballots (second and so on) because the delegates then become unbound and can vote for anyone.

Cruz is not exactly "stealing" Trump's delegates, because there isn't exactly such a thing as "Trump's delegates". The delegates from each state for the RNC are chosen in state delegate conventions. What Cruz has been doing with his superior organization and ground game is filling the delegate slates with people that are loyal or at least favorable to him.

None of this changes the number of bound delegates from each state, which is what the primaries are about. All of these remain the same. If Trump wins 1237 bound delegates, he is still the nominee. If he gets very close to that number, he will also very likely be the nominee.

Where the actual sympathies of the delegates come into play is if there is a contested convention that goes to a second ballot (or more). At that point, the delegates are no longer bound, ie they can vote for whomever they want. And the implication of what Cruz is doing is that many -- perhaps most -- of the delegates who were bound to Trump on the first ballot will turn around and vote for Cruz (or others) on the second and later ballots.

What this means is that Trump has little margin for error. If the convention is truly contested, and he doesn't win it on the first ballot, he won't be the nominee. He really needs to get close enough to 1237 to prevent the convention from being contested at all. If the convention is not contested then the identity of the delegates doesn't matter.
CaptainChardonnay · 2016-04-04 21:43:00 · #28084
rpg · 2016-04-04 21:52:00 · #28085
The best news I see is Trump has been going up in the Wisconsin polls ever day. Cruz is withering. At zero hour tomorrow Trump support should be at its strongest. I think Wisconsin got the message. It is Trump or die trying. Tomorrow will be a nail biter for sure because anything less than a blowout is going to look weak.
Last Parade · 2016-04-04 21:56:00 · #28086
(04-04-2016 02:03 PM)Nemausus Wrote:  I don't think this has been posted yet.

Trump has posted a video called "Trump Effect" to his Facebook page and a teaser on his Instagram.

It's basically a movie trailer for his campaign and presidency.

HIGH ENERGY TRAILER STARTS NOW




It has been posted and I was thinking about reposting it, I love it. Also, best usage of George Soros is anything, ever... I laugh everytime. So perfect.

(just learned original was DMCA'ed by EA the game company, jesus christ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYTJYCdebzQ)
Libertas · 2016-04-04 21:58:00 · #28087
Wisconsin is going to be a good test of the general election, even though Florida was a better one and New York will also be a better one.

On the one hand you have a state that's sort of straddling the rust belt and has been hit hard with globalization. On the other you have a very united globalist establishment and a lot of controlled opposition in the cuckservative talk radio. Some of the bigwigs are there like Ryan and Walker. You're looking at a preview, even if an imperfect one, of the kind of opposition Trump will face in the general election.

Wisconsin however, aside from some Somali rapeyougee problems, is relatively unenriched.
Anabasis to Desta · 2016-04-04 21:58:00 · #28088
(04-04-2016 04:34 PM)Irenicus Wrote:  Iop will need to post a lot of Ivanka pics to make up for all missed streams.

Not enough.

We should waterboard him. And we should approve more than that. Don't kid yourself, folks. It works, Okay? It works. Only a stupid person would say it doesn't work.
Fisto · 2016-04-04 22:17:00 · #28089
The polls that had #LyinTed up 10 in #Wisconsin only had registered republicans. When they include Dems and Indies Trump is up 10. #Hannity
Liberty Sea · 2016-04-04 22:29:00 · #28090
OPERATION TRUMP
Inside the most unorthodox campaign in political history.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...paign.html

That pic of Marco!
[Trump’s wall of candidates who have dropped out of the race.]
[Image: 1-trump-5.nocrop.w529.h666.jpg]
Liberty Sea · 2016-04-04 22:36:00 · #28091
(04-04-2016 09:09 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 08:58 PM)MiscBrah Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 08:36 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  I think all Trump needs to do is win either one of these. If he wins both, he probably gets to 1237, which would be ideal. But even if wins just one of the two he'll be close enough that he'll be the nominee.

I read an article today about how Ted Cruz is quietly recruiting delegates and amassing a strong ground game. As a result, many of Trump's Arizona delegates will go to Cruz. I definitely need to do more research as to how the overall convention process works but what should I make of Cruz trying to snipe Trump's delegates?

The key thing to understand is that the identity of the delegates does not matter for the first ballot in a convention (because they are bound) but it matters a lot for the later ballots (second and so on) because the delegates then become unbound and can vote for anyone.

Cruz is not exactly "stealing" Trump's delegates, because there isn't exactly such a thing as "Trump's delegates". The delegates from each state for the RNC are chosen in state delegate conventions. What Cruz has been doing with his superior organization and ground game is filling the delegate slates with people that are loyal or at least favorable to him.

None of this changes the number of bound delegates from each state, which is what the primaries are about. All of these remain the same. If Trump wins 1237 bound delegates, he is still the nominee. If he gets very close to that number, he will also very likely be the nominee.

Where the actual sympathies of the delegates come into play is if there is a contested convention that goes to a second ballot (or more). At that point, the delegates are no longer bound, ie they can vote for whomever they want. And the implication of what Cruz is doing is that many -- perhaps most -- of the delegates who were bound to Trump on the first ballot will turn around and vote for Cruz (or others) on the second and later ballots.

What this means is that Trump has little margin for error. If the convention is truly contested, and he doesn't win it on the first ballot, he won't be the nominee. He really needs to get close enough to 1237 to prevent the convention from being contested at all. If the convention is not contested then the identity of the delegates doesn't matter.

It also means that Cruz totally lied about not wanting a brokered convention.
The Lizard of Oz · 2016-04-04 22:40:00 · #28092
(04-04-2016 10:36 PM)Liberty Sea Wrote:  It also means that Cruz totally lied about not wanting a brokered convention.

He holds that Bible high, and then he puts it down...
Lucky · 2016-04-04 23:34:00 · #28093
This article clearly outlines the reasons Trump is good for the GOP. If you look closely, you can see that the author has likely been influenced by Roosh's work.

One of the rare times Vox gives voice to reason:

I'm A PhD Student, And I Can't Wait To Vote For Donald Trump

Quote:If the GOP does not pull some stunt at the convention, replacing Trump with Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan or any other mainstream conservative, I will vote for Trump in the general election.

[...]

If Trump were not running for president, I would not be voting. I will not vote for any other office in either the Indiana primary on May 3 or in the general election. I consider voting to be an inherently violent and immoral act.

So why am I voting now, and why for Trump?

Trump and the alt-right

[...]

In any case, "libertarian" was a term of convenience, which to my more D-party-leaning friends — and I suspect to all such types, friends or not — meant that I wasn't some culture warrior on abortion but I had right-wing beliefs to some extent.

[...]

Trump and the alt-right have much in common: right-wing anti-globalism, nationalist populism, border controls, trade policy that works in the interest of the domestic working class and not against it, taxation of the obscenely wealthy, and, yes, a rather confrontational attitude about it all. Notably, the alt-right and Trump both seem to understand that culture war issues like abortion, same-sex marriage, and so on are counterproductive. They exist for the conservative establishment to use as pander material to fire up the base. Safe, easily digestible solids. Never mind that these are issues that will never go anywhere and alienate vast numbers of otherwise sympathetic voters — the slim slice of the electorate with whom you can gain a few percentage points if you speak in tongues think they're swell.

My two reasons for supporting Trump

There are fundamentally two different reasons why I want to vote for Trump.

[...]

As I see it, the two most obvious causes of wage stagnation, particularly at the lower ends of income, are outsourcing and flooding the market with labor. In this case, labor that by virtue of being illegal circumvents minimum wage laws and virtually all worker protection laws. Not to mention the absurdity of essentially placing American workers in a position of having to live eight to a shipping container and only being able to afford fast food for breakfast, lunch, and dinner if they "want to compete on a global level."

The only thought-terminating cliché more infuriating than "doing the jobs Americans won't" is "that's not who we are." Anytime you hear a politician say immigrants are "doing the jobs Americans won't," replace it in your mind with the truth: "doing the jobs we don't want to pay Americans a living wage to do."

By no means is this limited to the unskilled and semi-skilled labor markets. The H-1B visa program is nothing more than a massive loophole big business exploits to import cheap labor — little more than modern indentured servants — to replace more expensive domestic skilled labor. This election cycle has been very bizarre, and one of the most bizarre elements in it is seeing the left — which still deludes itself that it is on the side of working families — argue on the same side as big business on the issue of cheap labor.

[...]

The larger answer to the question of why I'm voting for Trump, one that has nothing to do with policy at all, is that of Trump as a weapon. I am more motivated to vote for him as punishment against the GOP establishment than anything else. It is my sincere wish that he destroys the party. Earlier in the primary, when it wasn't clear he was going to win, if all he accomplished was mortally wounding the GOP, he would have done his job. He is well beyond that now, and he has a chance at drastically altering the political landscape.

Aside from his appeal to Rust Belt states on issues of labor, which the GOP has largely ignored in the past in favor of much safer culture war issues, Trump has a realistic shot of breaking the left's stranglehold on the black vote. Black voters are starting to see that they are hurt more than any other demographic group by outsourcing and illegal immigration, and that the left is in the active process of displacing them as a voting bloc and replacing them with the post-1965 immigrant vote.

[...]

The GOP needs to be destroyed, because it is currently the party of no one. What I mean by this is that it is not representative of its alleged constituents, and instead it represents its own donor class and only its own donor class. Look at the outrage directed not only at Trump but at the dumb, cruel, entitled, tunnel-vision people who vote for him by the donor mouthpieces like the National Review and the Weekly Standard. It is largely a party of convenience in opposition to the Democrats.

If it is conservative, what has it conserved? I am not asking rhetorically. Has the GOP done anything significant that its constituents have actually wanted (and not simply told by the donor class that they should want) since, and including, the Eisenhower administration? People can only be ignored for so long, and the party elites can only live in their little bubbles for so long before a candidate like Trump emerges.

It is this very fact that proves it can't be reformed and must be destroyed — it is a party that steadfastly refuses to even listen to its own members, and there is simply too much money at the top to fight effectively. The only two hills the GOP is willing to die on are the following: tax cuts for the rich and unending wars in the Middle East, mostly to our own detriment.

The party wins elections pandering to culture war issues that mostly aren't even executive branch issues at all. If a candidate like Trump never came along, at some point that would have run out (and, after the Romney disaster, arguably already had), and the party would be a permanent minority party.

I like that Trump is confrontational. His success depends on it, I would say.
If anything, Trump is not a clown; he's the most serious candidate, Democrat or Republican, in decades. He is talking about actual issues that are on everyday people's minds. Whether or not over the span of several administrations an elaborate Rube Goldberg machine works out perfectly to deliver a Supreme Court capable of overturning Roe v. Wade is not something on normal people's minds when they vote. Things like an actual border and border enforcement, a meaningful definition of "citizen," and not seeing their jobs go overseas are.

Trump tapped into the dead obvious, but it took a certain amount of courage to do so, as these issues are taboo, and the heat he is getting for it on all sides demonstrates that. Any other candidate would crumble, meekly apologize, and slink off into the night, never to be seen again. Trump got the other end of the equation right too: Never back down, never apologize.

As for what I would like to see in place of the GOP, I think framing things in terms of liberal/conservative is a system on its way out. The future, not just in America but effectively around the globe, will be defined by globalists and anti-globalists. The neocons can return home to the Democratic Party (being a mutant strain of Trotskyists that went "right wing"), and the few Democrats still under the delusion that they are members of a party that gives a damn about labor can join up with the anti-globalists. And that's the future of American partisan politics — an explicitly anti-globalist party versus a globalist party of transnational elites. I stress that the hegemon absolutely has the right to say it does not want to be the hegemon anymore.

Trump is running an anti-fragile — in the Nassim Nicholas Taleb sense of the term — campaign. This is something that neither the GOP nor the Democrats seem to understand. The more you attack him, the stronger he gets. The usual picayune nonsense that normally derails campaigns does not and will not work on Trump's.

Look at the events of Chicago. The professional left thought that political violence would surely bring down his campaign. What did Trump do? He did not apologize, and instead went on the offensive. And what was the result with his supporters? On March 15, he made anime real. He swept all states, including Illinois, save one where he lost to a popular sitting governor by a few points.

What it's like to be a Trump supporter on a university campus

So what is it like being a Trump supporter in academia? I should first stipulate that I don't treat politics like it's a team sport. I don't wear Make America Great Again hats, I don't have a Trump bumper sticker, I don't informally campaign for him in any way in casual conversation, and so on. There is nothing about me that would lead anyone to believe I am a Trump voter. I look and act like any other member of my cohort.

Media is a big field. There are people in my cohort who approach it as a social science, and those like me who approach it as a humanity. I don't pretend to know the other side of the coin as well as they do, but there is theory from that methodological perspective I find useful here.

Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann, who may or may not have been affiliated with the actual Nazi Party (and, yes, given the casual nature with which "Nazi" is thrown at the Trump campaign, the qualifier "actual" is necessary here), developed what she eventually called the spiral of silence. In short, if you don't see or feel your beliefs or attitudes reflected anywhere, you will assume you are in the minority and keep quiet, and this will form a negative feedback loop. You may not actually be in the minority, but because everyone like you also keeps quiet, it's only reasonable you'd believe this.

I know where I am. That is to say I know I am on enemy soil. I know I am indeed the minority, and for those of us on the bottom of the spiral of silence, free speech has never been "free" in any practical sense of the term.

It is assumed that when you get to this level in the academy, you are a leftist. Right-of-center thought of any kind is casually laughed at, dismissed, and crudely represented. Let me be clear: If Trump never entered the race and Jeb Bush were the nominee, my colleagues in the academy would be calling Bush a heartless Nazi and saying that anyone who voted for him was a fool who didn't know better come the general election.

[...]

When people in academia find out I'm a Trump supporter, there are two general reactions: laughter combined with sincere disbelief, or a facial contortion that says their amygdalae are about to strain because they can't process that someone who isn't dragging his knuckles just said that. Most people are kind, though. They either earnestly try to understand or they simply let me be without needing to publicly fight with me about it (though I suspect their private thoughts are less kind).

These people know me, and know I'm not some sort of monster. I don't fit the caricature of a Trump voter, and so be it. They're also intelligent people, and that likely has something to do with it, as I get far more hostility from those outside academia than from those within.

With that said, I know I can't really speak my mind without facing consequences at some point, unlike those on the left, who can openly say things up to and including committing democide against perceived political and, increasingly, racial enemies with no consequences. Some friends of mine are even convinced that by writing this article, I may be damning myself to a future of unemployment.

Aside from potentially damning myself out of a job, I have not faced any demonstrable consequences for my support for Trump. I am convinced that these sorts of tough-guy moments from the opposition only happen on the internet. Sure, I might not get invited to all the parties, but that's hardly going to stop me.

All in all, I don't live in fear of something like what happened at Emory happening to me. I go to a big state school; I'm not lucky enough to experience such joys of elite private institutions. If all I have to put up with is people mentioning Trump and rolling their eyes, not knowing there is an enemy in the room while doing so, I can manage.
cubanlinx · 2016-04-05 00:24:00 · #28094
A brokered convention isn't as imminent as some gloom merchants here seem to say;

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/pete...pipe-dream

Paul Ryan Pipe Dream


Don't fall for speculation that the RNC may oust Donald Trump or Ted Cruz and make Speaker Ryan the GOP nominee.

By Peter Roff Apr 4, 2016


There are a lot of people who seem to believe a deadlocked Republican convention could choose House Speaker Paul Ryan as its eventual nominee. It's possible, but in a world of long shots, it may be the longest.

As Mitt Romney's running mate four years ago, Ryan's been vetted and knows what a national campaign involves. He can certainly raise the money, but it's not at all clear he could put together the infrastructure required, even with the backing of party solons and billionaire business leaders. Moreover, he doesn't seem to want the job. At least that's what he told conservative talker Hugh Hewitt over the weekend.

What's driving the talk, which last week got an uptick after former George W. Bush campaign guru Karl Rove suggested the party might turn to a "fresh face," isn't so much the ideological fissures created by the success of New York real estate developer Donald Trump's run for the nomination as it is the poll numbers. If the election were held today, Trump would lose in a landslide to both former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Beyond that, GOP insiders are afraid he'd take Republican control of Congress, a number of governorships and a goodly chunk of the state legislative chambers now led by the GOP with him.


Fortunately for the Republicans, the election isn't today but in November. There's a lot of time between now and then for the party to make up ground, and if Clinton emerges as the Democratic nominee once all the ballots are counted in Philadelphia, to start comparing and contrasting his negatives with hers.

Campaigning is a brutal business, especially since it became professionalized at every level from president of the United States to city councilman. As a class, the experts who are supposed to know how to handle things are baffled by how the election has gone thus far. They can't figure out why Trump has done so well, why Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has emerged as really the last man standing against him and why the candidates who were better representatives of the party as they understand it to be – Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and even Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who remains in the race despite the mathematically impossibility of winning on the first ballot – didn't fare better.

There are a couple of reasons this is the case. One is the Citizens United decision, which most Republicans applauded for bringing a flood of new money into federal electoral contests. The down side, which no one saw until actually going through a cycle, is how it made it possible for marginal candidates with little support to remain in the race as long as they could attract one or two "super donors" to keep them viable at least through New Hampshire or South Carolina.

The bottom line is the weak sisters were able to hang on for too long, splitting the GOP vote and letting Trump become the front-runner with the support of independents and disaffected Democrats.

Cruz, though, isn't liked any better by the Washington insiders and others who are driving the "fresh face" narrative. He reportedly doesn't get along well with his colleagues and is considered something of a Republican Barack Obama: He knows he's the smartest guy in just about any room he's in, and he's not likely to take to heart the counsel of people who disagree with him on policy or strategy. That Cruz has emerged as the best chance to stop Trump on the first ballot is a source of considerable amusement to folks who really don't have skin in the game since they've already decided to cross the aisle and vote for Hillary or they're not planning on voting in November.

The rack and ruin that parts of the permanent infrastructure which controls GOP machinery year after year believe they face with either Trump or Cruz at the top of the ticket is driving the discussion. Kasich might be an alternative for them, but those who knew him in Congress or whom fought the expansion of Medicaid in Ohio after Obamacare became law know him to be sometimes irascible, often difficult, and on matters of first-order importance to conservatives, unreliable. In a nutshell, none of the top heap of candidates still in the race meet their criteria of being able to win in November and, if not, keeping the losses to a survivable minimum.

That's the backstory behind what's fueling the Paul Ryan Express. The problem for those pushing the idea is that he doesn't want to play. He hasn't yet issued a statement, Sherman-like, about not running if nominated and not serving if elected, but he's also not being coy. He's got his hands full running the House, an almost equally important post for which there is also no obvious replacement.

When it comes down to it, the notion of a Ryan candidacy in 2016 is a pipe dream lit by the ambitions of others. It won't go anywhere. The convention will pick its nominee from among those who ran because that is what the voters want. To do otherwise would constitute a betrayal of the faith of the grassroots even if the rules, as more than one hack has pointed out, do allow for it.
Patriarch · 2016-04-05 02:19:00 · #28095
(04-04-2016 09:58 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Wisconsin is going to be a good test of the general election, even though Florida was a better one and New York will also be a better one.

On the one hand you have a state that's sort of straddling the rust belt and has been hit hard with globalization. On the other you have a very united globalist establishment and a lot of controlled opposition in the cuckservative talk radio. Some of the bigwigs are there like Ryan and Walker. You're looking at a preview, even if an imperfect one, of the kind of opposition Trump will face in the general election.

Wisconsin however, aside from some Somali rapeyougee problems, is relatively unenriched.

What I'm most curious about is, will Wisconsin vote like Michigan and Illinois, or will it vote like Minnesota and Iowa?

It's sort of like a Missouri-esque state, in that Missouri sat on the border of Trump's and Cruz' strongholds of the Southeast and Midwest, and Wisconsin sits between the upper Midwest and the Rust Belt. I think it's going to be very close.
Patriarch · 2016-04-05 02:22:00 · #28096
(04-05-2016 02:19 AM)Patriarch Wrote:  
(04-04-2016 09:58 PM)Libertas Wrote:  Wisconsin is going to be a good test of the general election, even though Florida was a better one and New York will also be a better one.

On the one hand you have a state that's sort of straddling the rust belt and has been hit hard with globalization. On the other you have a very united globalist establishment and a lot of controlled opposition in the cuckservative talk radio. Some of the bigwigs are there like Ryan and Walker. You're looking at a preview, even if an imperfect one, of the kind of opposition Trump will face in the general election.

Wisconsin however, aside from some Somali rapeyougee problems, is relatively unenriched.

What I'm most curious about is, will Wisconsin vote like Michigan and Illinois, or will it vote like Minnesota and Iowa?

It's sort of like a Missouri-esque state, in that Missouri sat on the border of Trump's and Cruz' strongholds of the Southeast and Midwest, and Wisconsin sits between the upper Midwest and the Rust Belt. I think it's going to be very close.

Also, I'm glad to see Trump back up to a double-digit lead in PA. That one poll last week seems to be an aberration.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2016-04-05 05:38:00 · #28097
Quote:Cruz is not exactly "stealing" Trump's delegates, because there isn't exactly such a thing as "Trump's delegates". The delegates from each state for the RNC are chosen in state delegate conventions. What Cruz has been doing with his superior organization and ground game is filling the delegate slates with people that are loyal or at least favorable to him.

So once again we conclude that Cruz is very skilled... at cheating.
fiasco360 · 2016-04-05 06:04:00 · #28098
Interesting post from the_donald subreddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comm...ading_and/
The Beast1 · 2016-04-05 06:11:00 · #28099
(04-05-2016 12:24 AM)cubanlinx Wrote:  If the election were held today, Trump would lose in a landslide to both former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders. Beyond that, GOP insiders are afraid he'd take Republican control of Congress, a number of governorships and a goodly chunk of the state legislative chambers now led by the GOP with him.


This is utter bull shit and i'm getting sick of seeing this posted.

The people who write this junk are the same people who thought this as well:

(04-05-2016 12:24 AM)cubanlinx Wrote:  As a class, the experts who are supposed to know how to handle things are baffled by how the election has gone thus far. They can't figure out why Trump has done so well, why Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has emerged as really the last man standing against him and why the candidates who were better representatives of the party as they understand it to be – Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and even Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who remains in the race despite the mathematically impossibility of winning on the first ballot – didn't fare better.

Anyone with half a brain should know that anyone who thought establishment hacks like the ones above had a chance this election should be looked at skeptically for the foreseeable future. Their opinions at this point in the game are frankly bunk nonsense.

Hillary is unelectable period. Bill and her have a slew of skeletons in their closet that takes a massive amount of money to hide. That's leaving out the fact that the majority of the Democrats are pro Bernie and want nothing to do with Hillary. Come the election if Hillary was on the ticket most democrats would either stay home or vote for someone else.

Bernie on the other hand would give Trump a good fight. He knows what the lazy want and that's more freebies. The Democratic establishment wouldn't let Bernie win the nomination under any circumstances.

The sooner these professional election goons shut the hell up, the sooner we can start rallying behind the true Republican nominee: Trump.
kbell · 2016-04-05 06:52:00 · #28100
I thought Obama was unelectable, with his church, what we did know of his past, william ayers and lack of experience. Yet he won twice. I don't know about Democrats staying home if Hillary wins. Hopefully enough of them would vote Trump out of spite, but I doubt it.
Anabasis to Desta · 2016-04-05 21:08:00 · #28226
(04-05-2016 08:44 PM)big poppa Wrote:  What the hell goes through the heads of the morons who actually go out and cast a vote for Kasich?
"Oh please, our GOP overlords, please determine who will lead us.. Only you have such wisdom to choose our nominee!"


Beta cuckold recognize beta cuckold.

My only guess is that Kasich has got that familiar soft, naive and humble Midwestern attitude all the low energy fat farmers from from Minnesota, Wisconsin, Nebraska and Iowa share.

Makes me wonder if Cruz could pull Indiana. Is that state more like Ohio/Michigan/Illinois, more like Kentucky/Tennessee or more like the beta states listed above?

Seems like one of those weird states like Missouri with no solid identity that could go either way.
Dr. Howard · 2016-04-05 21:08:00 · #28227
More silver lining from the data, exit polls show that there is no gender difference (1-2 percent) in how people are voting. ie. currently 37 percent of male voters went with trump and 36 percent of female voters went with trump. So much for that whole "trump polls poorly with women" crap.
Patriarch · 2016-04-05 21:12:00 · #28228
This thread now:

[Image: 3328014-theoden+bespelled.jpg]

This thread leading up to the New York primary:



Libertas · 2016-04-05 21:13:00 · #28229
Getting my horse ready.
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