(04-09-2016 06:15 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 05:26 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 05:15 PM)Centurion Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 05:03 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  Agreed. Most people vote for who they like the most, not who they think has the best prescriptions to solve problems. Here's a story, just happened: I have an employee to whom I just gave a raise to. However she owes the IRS 1000.00 because she had me withold too little tax . She also had her wonderful Obamacare insurance double in cost. So she's rightfully upset that her raise is going to get eaten up by these expenses.

Do you think this would turn her into a Trump supporter? No. Loves Bernie and STILL likes Obama. Why? Because she's supporting emotionally, not logically. Plus she's Eastern European which makes it even worse. I said all this to her and she even agreed with me. But she hates Trump so she won't support him despite agreeing that some of his policies make sense. Cognitive dissonance like this is going to destroy this country once and for all. This is what we're up against.

If she's really that emotional and blind to logic, you really shouldn't be giving her raises. Just make her feel good and be likable, treat her well etc.

Then pocket the cash.

No, she deserved the raise, her work is very good and she works her ass off for me without complaining. My point was that even people who are normally fine get caught up emotionally in who they support rather than basing their choices in reason and logic. That's the underlying problem with our system of voting and a big reason why civilizations eventually fall.

I disagree with your (too) gentleman-like stance. A leftist boss would never give you a pay raise if he knew that you are pro-Trump, yet, here you are, raising pay for a woman who hurts society with her Bernie vote . I think you should instead raise the pay of some other efficient (and pro-Trump) employee...

Myself, I might be, in your position, very tempted to... fire this leftist' ass: I have seen so many conservative men fired from their jobs by SJW employers, that I personally think that we should now retaliate: no mercy for SJWish and ultra-feminist employees.

So, you are a gentleman indeed, but, given that we are at war with ultra-socialists (think Bernie) and SJWs, I sadly cannot congratulate you.

This may come off as an unpopular post. I'm not sure I agree with your disagreement. Women have much more drastic ways to hurt society than a Bernie vote. Additionally, there have been very many liberal bosses that have given me many raises. Here's the challenge. There are good workers and there are shitty workers, just like there are good people and bad people. The moment you start thinking liberal versus conservative within that context, you lose sight of their work performance. I have done it myself before discovering the forum and the red pill and failed miserably at a lot things including women.

You don't fire people for being leftist and not every liberal is an SJW. Taking a person's livelihood to get back at the "liberals" or "SJW" establishment is not a very red pill way to live life, let alone masculine at all. At some levels, this liberal versus conservative drama is akin to the forum's infamous "alpha versus beta" conundrum. I have said this before, but "thinking too much about alpha versus beta is beta" just the same as thinking so much into "liberalism versus conservatism" is also beta. When you try to squeeze human beings into theoretical concepts of politics, you not only buy into the frame of the mainstream but also end up changing as a person, likely not for the better. It's as simple as that. Real world experience is the only thing that can change that. Not this thread. Not the forum. Not watching FOX or Breitbart. The REAL world. Period.

In the past, I worked with liberals that were amazing performers. Hanging out with them was tough, but they did some amazing work. I also worked with conservative people that were lazy and felt "entitled." I currently work in a sales environment, which you would think is very conservative and Republican. It is absolutely not. You don't know how many women I end up disagreeing with and explain why Hillary sucks. These are the same women that get back and bring in tons of revenue. And you know what? I don't give a rat's ass if they vote for Bernie or Hillary. As long as they are bringing in money by working hard, THEY have MY vote.

Have you hired and worked with people? Supervising and taking care of your employees is a difficult task. Just like in life, friendships and family relationships, it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises. I understand this election is important but let's not forget who we are and how to treat people right.

Side note: Some of the best players and gents that get laid more than others (including those I know on the forum), are liberal and vote Democrat. Not being a Trump supporter doesn't automatically make you a social jackass or SJW.

(04-09-2016 05:22 PM)Tytalus Wrote:  Fair warning - I haven't been up on all this in a while. I read in the NP that:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/...-for-trump

looking at Trump, he's now at 93% of delegates needed to cinch the 1234 (or whatever) is needed to win.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/elec...e-targets/

Thoughts?

538 is predicting Trump will only get 199 delegates out of the 270 coming up (NE states, New York and Indiana)

Play around with http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/elec...p-to-1237/

Can easily get him to 1237, they are underestimating the number of delegates Trump will get in NY, Indiana, the NE and even the west coast.

There's 125 uncommitted delegates that they project at zero, if he's within 30-50 of majority, you can promise some of these uncommitted delegates something for their vote.

Surprisingly delegates can be bought (sort of): http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/04/politics/c...delegates/

Interesting result out of Michigan, Paul Manafort already working his magic?

Quote:Trump, Kasich box out Cruz in Michigan delegation

The Texas senator's campaign ran eight delegates for eight committee spots and lost every one, alleging it was "double-crossed" by Kasich supporters.

The Michigan delegation picked one Trump supporter, Matt Hall, and one Kasich supporter, Judi Schwalbach, for the two seats on the powerful rules committee. The Cruz campaign lost votes for both seats.

The rules committee seats have become highly coveted prizes for their role in shaping a contested convention in Cleveland. After the delegates are selected in each state, they meet as a group and pick the members of four convention committees, the most important of which is the rules committee, which will ultimately decide who can be nominated president.

Michigan Cruz leader Saul Anuzis said they were "double-crossed" by Kasich's campaign. The Kasich delegates were supposed to vote with Cruz delegates, he said, but switched sides and voted with Trump behind closed doors Saturday afternoon.

Kasich's delegate director in Michigan, Jeff Timmer, said the Cruz campaign broke their end of the deal when they tried to win all eight delegation seats.

He said they finished their slate of Trump and Kasich candidates about 10 minutes before walking into the delegation meeting.

"The Cruz campaign tried a takeover and they failed miserably," Timmer said. "It backfired and they ended up with nothing. There's been all these reports about how they're out-organizing everybody. Not here."

Trump's national delegate director, Brian Jack, called it a "big win" for Trump.

"The most important votes occurred this afternoon -- we went 5-0. Five delegates for Mr. Trump ran for committee assignments; all five were elected," Jack said.

He added, "This was a big win for Team Trump. We won 25 delegates from Michigan last month, and now, at least 25 supporters of Mr. Trump will be delegates to the Republican National Convention."

Much of the focus in the delegate battle has been on the sheer numbers of delegates themselves, with Cruz outgunning Trump in states like Louisiana and Colorado. But the delegations themselves -- usually an afterthought -- have become battlegrounds on the path to an expected convention fight in Cleveland.

Trump and Cruz had formed an alliance behind the scenes to deny Kasich the seats needed to get himself even nominated in Cleveland, but the skirmish in Michigan marked an apparent shift in alliances.

"Do they have a bigger deal? I don't know what they're trying to do," Anuzis said. "I think they won a short-term victory here on committee assignments. We were approached by several of their delegates who were very upset with how it was done in the process and I think that will help us long term on the floor."

Of Michigan's 59 delegates selected Friday and Saturday, Trump supporters filled 25 spots, Cruz supporters filled 17 and Kasich supporters took another 17 -- although it was unclear who all the delegates were permanently aligned with.

But as the votes were taken behind closed doors, they appeared to break mostly along campaign-allegiance lines. Trump supporter Mary Balkema won her contest, with Cruz state chairwoman Wendy Day took a seat on the credentials committee. And Kasich supporter Chuck Yob -- the father of Republican operative John Yob -- beat Cruz supporter Rep. Justin Amash for the other spot on the credentials committee.

Each Cruz candidate managed to swing a few more votes above the 17 delegates awarded to him in Michigan, but nowhere close enough to win any seats.

The victory for Yob could put him in place to oversee a challenge to his son John Yob's bid to be a delegate from the Virgin Islands.

Elsewhere on Saturday, Democrats are caucusing in Wyoming, while Republicans in Colorado are choosing delegates for the party's convention in July.

http://www.wmdt.com/news/politics-electi...n/38947700

According to the New York Times, Trump only needs 44% of the remaining delegates to get to 1237.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/...lator.html

But, according to 538 (which has been absolutely wrong on this election since the start), Trump only gets 1182.

Been trying to see if I could make some $$$ off whether or not Trump takes it with 1237 before the convention, and here's what I have:

http://53eig.ht/1237#CO:7,WY:1,NY:80,CT:...J:51,NM:10

I assume Trump is going to dominate the North East. Basically Trump gets 1202 handedly but the last 3 states that will make or break the nomination process are Montana, South Dakota, and Nebraska, which are all winner-take-all states. It appears Trump must win in at least one of them, two to be safe.

Anyone have intel on these states? Are they cucked for Cruz or will at least one go for Trump? North Dakota went to Cruz, so the South probably will too. Nebraska isn't far away from SD either, so it looks like Cruz wins here too. The big question mark is then Montana, which borders Idaho and Nevada, both Trump states. Montana will determine the fate of America.

So far this race, Trump has done very well in forested areas with low population. Those were the counties Trump won in Wiscucksin, and Montana has a lot of forested areas. I also hear Montana may be home to many White Supremacist Survivalist types as well, so I think things are looking good for Trump's nomination. With Montana under Trump's belt, he will have 1229 delegates on June 7th, and I'm sure he can convince just 8 delegates to hop on board the train.

(04-09-2016 06:52 PM)Cobra Wrote:  This may come off as an unpopular post. I'm not sure I agree with your disagreement. Women have much more drastic ways to hurt society than a Bernie vote. Additionally, there have been very many liberal bosses that have given me many raises. Here's the challenge. There are good workers and there are shitty workers, just like there are good people and bad people. The moment you start thinking liberal versus conservative within that context, you lose sight of their work performance. I have done it myself before discovering the forum and the red pill and failed miserably at a lot things including women.

You don't fire people for being leftist and not every liberal is an SJW. Taking a person's livelihood to get back at the "liberals" or "SJW" establishment is not a very red pill way to live life, let alone masculine at all. At some levels, this liberal versus conservative drama is akin to the forum's infamous "alpha versus beta" conundrum. I have said this before, but "thinking too much about alpha versus beta is beta" just the same as thinking so much into "liberalism versus conservatism" is also beta. When you try to squeeze human beings into theoretical concepts of politics, you not only buy into the frame of the mainstream but also end up changing as a person, likely not for the better. It's as simple as that. Real world experience is the only thing that can change that. Not this thread. Not the forum. Not watching FOX or Breitbart. The REAL world. Period.

In the past, I worked with liberals that were amazing performers. Hanging out with them was tough, but they did some amazing work. I also worked with conservative people that were lazy and felt "entitled." I currently work in a sales environment, which you would think is very conservative and Republican. It is absolutely not. You don't know how many women I end up disagreeing with and explain why Hillary sucks. These are the same women that get back and bring in tons of revenue. And you know what? I don't give a rat's ass if they vote for Bernie or Hillary. As long as they are bringing in money by working hard, THEY have MY vote.

Have you hired and worked with people? Supervising and taking care of your employees is a difficult task. Just like in life, friendships and family relationships, it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises. I understand this election is important but let's not forget who we are and how to treat people right.

You don't fire people for being leftist: but everyday men are fired for being "conservative, entitled men"... why shouldn't we fire leftist feminists, if opportunity arises and a conservative man or woman can fill the job.

it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises: but once again, all around the western world, leftists do just that, hampering conservative-men careers, on purpose. Really, we should retaliate every opportunity we have.

Now, you're talking about "real world". Well, in real world, sincerely, I have noted that 80 or 90% of leftists whom I met are, quite simply, bad people. In real life, bad people. Whereas Conservative are usually good, hard-working, honest, productive, frank people, and liking a beer and good steak.

Most leftists I met in my (real) life were bad, yes: egoistic, full of easy (State granted in general) money, preaching tolerance but living in segregated enclaves, disrespecting other people religious beliefs, refusing to do their army duties, filling their mouths with big words, but never giving one cent to anyone in real life. And vegans. So, yes, I do tend to generalize... Not all leftists I met were bad, but 80% minimum were.

Ah, and also, "in real life", leftists (with their actions and votes, given that we're talking about votes) are very close to turning my country and continent into a messy hell. One year of border opening and migrants invasion= +30% of home invasions and sexual attacks in France: leftists do have an impact on real life. A huge and very real and very bad one. Why would you forgive them? The damage they do are irreversible: entire countries fucked.

With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

Trump is apparently going to be on Judge Jeanine?

Her opening segment just started and she's blasting the establishment again

http://www.hulkusc.com/watch-fox-news-live-streaming/


CONFIRMED TRUMP ON THE PHONE 9:07 PM!

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

This part right here made me give you a standing ovation in the middle of my living room - tremendous job. We are in the midst of an information war and cuck thinking isn't going to get us anywhere. SJWs are actively trying to take the country over and it's arguable that so far, they're winning. The country has fallen to degeneracy, we've got trannies running around whining about not being able to change with little girls, Salon.com writing articles entitled "I'm a pedophile - but not a monster" in an attempt to normalize sick perverts, homos won a big time supreme court case and feminist psychopaths denouncing anything and everything as "sexist" or "misogynistic."

Trump supporters are being persecuted, conservatives/libertarians/tea party groups are being unfairly audited by the IRS, free speech is under attack and tax exempt multinationals have corrupted our entertainment mediums to sedate the rest of society.

Case in point, we're in trouble - and we don't have time to be politically correct.

Why talk about politics at work in the first place? What happened to discretion?

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  You don't fire people for being leftist: but everyday men are fired for being "conservative, entitled men"... why shouldn't we fire leftist feminists, if opportunity arises and a conservative man or woman can fill the job.

it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises: but once again, all around the western world, leftists do just that, hampering conservative-men careers, on purpose. Really, we should retaliate every opportunity we have.

Now, you're talking about "real world". Well, in real world, sincerely, I have noted that 80 or 90% of leftists whom I met are, quite simply, bad people. In real life, bad people. Whereas Conservative are usually good, hard-working, honest, productive, frank people, and liking a beer and good steak.

Most leftists I met in my (real) life were bad, yes: egoistic, full of easy (State granted in general) money, preaching tolerance but living in segregated enclaves, disrespecting other people religious beliefs, refusing to do their army duties, filling their mouths with big words, but never giving one cent to anyone in real life. And vegans. So, yes, I do tend to generalize... Not all leftists I met were bad, but 80% minimum were.

Ah, and also, "in real life", leftists (with their actions and votes, given that we're talking about votes) are very close to turning my country and continent into a messy hell. One year of border opening and migrants invasion= +30% of home invasions and sexual attacks in France: leftists do have an impact on real life. A huge and very real and very bad one. Why would you forgive them? The damage they do are irreversible: entire countries fucked.

With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

Firing her plays right into the Left's narrative and further solidifies her vote for a Democrat. Cobra handled this correctly, reward a job well done while at the same time letting her experience the positive effects of capitalism. Cobra may very well guide her over to the Right.

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 06:52 PM)Cobra Wrote:  This may come off as an unpopular post. I'm not sure I agree with your disagreement. Women have much more drastic ways to hurt society than a Bernie vote. Additionally, there have been very many liberal bosses that have given me many raises. Here's the challenge. There are good workers and there are shitty workers, just like there are good people and bad people. The moment you start thinking liberal versus conservative within that context, you lose sight of their work performance. I have done it myself before discovering the forum and the red pill and failed miserably at a lot things including women.

You don't fire people for being leftist and not every liberal is an SJW. Taking a person's livelihood to get back at the "liberals" or "SJW" establishment is not a very red pill way to live life, let alone masculine at all. At some levels, this liberal versus conservative drama is akin to the forum's infamous "alpha versus beta" conundrum. I have said this before, but "thinking too much about alpha versus beta is beta" just the same as thinking so much into "liberalism versus conservatism" is also beta. When you try to squeeze human beings into theoretical concepts of politics, you not only buy into the frame of the mainstream but also end up changing as a person, likely not for the better. It's as simple as that. Real world experience is the only thing that can change that. Not this thread. Not the forum. Not watching FOX or Breitbart. The REAL world. Period.

In the past, I worked with liberals that were amazing performers. Hanging out with them was tough, but they did some amazing work. I also worked with conservative people that were lazy and felt "entitled." I currently work in a sales environment, which you would think is very conservative and Republican. It is absolutely not. You don't know how many women I end up disagreeing with and explain why Hillary sucks. These are the same women that get back and bring in tons of revenue. And you know what? I don't give a rat's ass if they vote for Bernie or Hillary. As long as they are bringing in money by working hard, THEY have MY vote.

Have you hired and worked with people? Supervising and taking care of your employees is a difficult task. Just like in life, friendships and family relationships, it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises. I understand this election is important but let's not forget who we are and how to treat people right.

You don't fire people for being leftist: but everyday men are fired for being "conservative, entitled men"... why shouldn't we fire leftist feminists, if opportunity arises and a conservative man or woman can fill the job.

it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises: but once again, all around the western world, leftists do just that, hampering conservative-men careers, on purpose. Really, we should retaliate every opportunity we have.

Now, you're talking about "real world". Well, in real world, sincerely, I have noted that 80 or 90% of leftists whom I met are, quite simply, bad people. In real life, bad people. Whereas Conservative are usually good, hard-working, honest, productive, frank people, and liking a beer and good steak.

Most leftists I met in my (real) life were bad, yes: egoistic, full of easy (State granted in general) money, preaching tolerance but living in segregated enclaves, disrespecting other people religious beliefs, refusing to do their army duties, filling their mouths with big words, but never giving one cent to anyone in real life. And vegans. So, yes, I do tend to generalize... Not all leftists I met were bad, but 80% minimum were.

Ah, and also, "in real life", leftists (with their actions and votes, given that we're talking about votes) are very close to turning my country and continent into a messy hell. One year of border opening and migrants invasion= +30% of home invasions and sexual attacks in France: leftists do have an impact on real life. A huge and very real and very bad one. Why would you forgive them? The damage they do are irreversible: entire countries fucked.

With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

(04-09-2016 08:03 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

This part right here made me give you a standing ovation in the middle of my living room - tremendous job. We are in the midst of an information war and cuck thinking isn't going to get us anywhere. SJWs are actively trying to take the country over and it's arguable that so far, they're winning. The country has fallen to degeneracy, we've got trannies running around whining about not being able to change with little girls, Salon.com writing articles entitled "I'm a pedophile - but not a monster" in an attempt to normalize sick perverts, homos won a big time supreme court case and feminist psychopaths denouncing anything and everything as "sexist" or "misogynistic."

Trump supporters are being persecuted, conservatives/libertarians/tea party groups are being unfairly audited by the IRS, free speech is under attack and tax exempt multinationals have corrupted our entertainment mediums to sedate the rest of society.

Case in point, we're in trouble - and we don't have time to be politically correct.

My "nice and human" post was meant to be respectful, not cuck or politically correct. It's laughable at best especially given how much you can already read about me on the forum for a few minutes if you tried. Therein lies the issue I have with us making everything political. I can "speak my mind" and sound really abrasive if I want to. If you check out some of my troll hunting posts, you'll see what I mean. That's not being politically incorrect; often times, that's me being a dick because some trolls only respond to that. It's fine to have a civil discussion and not be a "cuck." The overuse of words and concepts like that will damn us when shit hits the fan if we don't watch it. It's akin to an SJW overusing the word "misogyny."

I support Trump. I don't like political correctness. I also am red pill. However, so are some liberals. It's absolutely fine to be a civilized liberal that hates political correctness while embracing the red pill. That's the point I'm trying to make. And 80 to 90% liberals being bad people? I'm not buying that. That seems to be more of a judgment call than a decision made on facts and objectivity. I certainly meet liberals every single day that are good people. Honestly, I sometimes hang out with them and built great friendships only to find out later that they are liberals and I don't agree with their "political" views. So I'm not sure where your estimate comes from. Not saying you need some accurate data, but I'd like to understand the thought process that causes people to think that that many liberals are SJW fools. Maybe your local is different? Overall, I'm just genuinely interested in how you got the estimate and what common themes you see in such a large portion of the population behaviorally that makes them so bad.

I still am not sure if either of either of you hired anyone. It's cool if you didn't but I'm just not getting that sense. Would you really fire someone that did a great job at a specific task because they had blue hair and a nosering, or were gay over someone that does a substandard job but "labels" himself conservative in every way? My point is that if your answer is yes, I would argue it goes against the values of the forum. Reason being that it actually is more akin to an SJW not hiring you or me because we are men, or white or something like that just to be "politically correct." I would encourage anyone that wants to make political changes to do it where it affects actual change at higher levels where it matters. Firing people at a professional job using that philosophy is likely not going to help you in making conservatives look good. It likely will do more harm than good if a Trump supporter fires a Hillary supporter at a hospital because she's a Hillary supporter. I hope I'm being clear.

An eye for an eye is only effective if your attack is better and grounded than your enemy, not if it's the same kind of attack with the same kind of weapon. Cuck thinking can not only be far left but far right as well.

(04-09-2016 08:03 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

This part right here made me give you a standing ovation in the middle of my living room - tremendous job. We are in the midst of an information war and cuck thinking isn't going to get us anywhere. SJWs are actively trying to take the country over and it's arguable that so far, they're winning. The country has fallen to degeneracy, we've got trannies running around whining about not being able to change with little girls, Salon.com writing articles entitled "I'm a pedophile - but not a monster" in an attempt to normalize sick perverts, homos won a big time supreme court case and feminist psychopaths denouncing anything and everything as "sexist" or "misogynistic."

Trump supporters are being persecuted, conservatives/libertarians/tea party groups are being unfairly audited by the IRS, free speech is under attack and tax exempt multinationals have corrupted our entertainment mediums to sedate the rest of society.

Case in point, we're in trouble - and we don't have time to be politically correct.

This is all true.

The fact is you could walk anywhere in a Bernie shirt and not be in danger.

If you walk around many places in the US in a Trump shirt, you very well may be in danger of being physically assaulted.

I fucking hate Liberals. The ultimate cowards. A faggot Liberal would never be aggressive like they are in the videos you see of them trying to shut down college Trump supporter groups if they were alone.

Yet Liberals are allowed by the law to form violent and aggressive mobs, as long as their hate is directed at straight while males.

When I find out someone is a liberal, I instantly lose respect for them.

Cobra I did not mean to call you a cuck - or even politically correct. I was just responding to the last part of that quote there but not in the context of your debate

(04-09-2016 07:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  According to the New York Times, Trump only needs 44% of the remaining delegates to get to 1237.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/...lator.html

But, according to 538 (which has been absolutely wrong on this election since the start), Trump only gets 1182.

Been trying to see if I could make some $$$ off whether or not Trump takes it with 1237 before the convention, and here's what I have:

http://53eig.ht/1237#CO:7,WY:1,NY:80,CT:...J:51,NM:10

I assume Trump is going to dominate the North East. Basically Trump gets 1202 handedly but the last 3 states that will make or break the nomination process are Montana, South Dakota, and Nebraska, which are all winner-take-all states. It appears Trump must win in at least one of them, two to be safe.

Anyone have intel on these states? Are they cucked for Cruz or will at least one go for Trump? North Dakota went to Cruz, so the South probably will too. Nebraska isn't far away from SD either, so it looks like Cruz wins here too. The big question mark is then Montana, which borders Idaho and Nevada, both Trump states. Montana will determine the fate of America.

So far this race, Trump has done very well in forested areas with low population. Those were the counties Trump won in Wiscucksin, and Montana has a lot of forested areas. I also hear Montana may be home to many White Supremacist Survivalist types as well, so I think things are looking good for Trump's nomination. With Montana under Trump's belt, he will have 1229 delegates on June 7th, and I'm sure he can convince just 8 delegates to hop on board the train.

Trump will probably lose Nebraska.

North Dakota didn't actually vote, they just had a convention. I'm also leaning towards Trump for Montana and and South Dakota due to survivalists and high Irish population.

I think Trump will win a majority in Washington, Oregon, and pull a higher percentage in California, since Cruz is short on cash now, since his speeches are funded by his PACs instead of his campaign, and donors are going to be hesitant to fund his campaign once he's mathematically eliminated after New York. Plus, it will give his affairs and other Lyin' Ted shenanigans time to sink in across the country.

Snivelling class hacks want a contested convention, but most donors didn't get to have donor class money by being that stupid, so I think they'll learn to deal with Trump, since even though Trump isn't bought, he is the consummate deal maker. Although there probably will be a last ditch money throw into Shillary's PACs after the New York and April 26th Trumpenings.

(04-09-2016 08:48 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  Cobra I did not mean to call you a cuck - or even politically correct. I was just responding to the last part of that quote there but not in the context of your debate

No offense taken. I didn't think you did. I was just trying to prove a point and be "political." You don't have to be so politically correct and explain yourself .

I put a pro Trump meme as my computer background at work a few weeks ago and its gone over well. I managed to trigger 2 leftists who eventually accepted defeat and submitted, I've helped nudge a few neutral people firmly onto the Trump train, and when both my boss and the big boss saw it they lit up and said its great.

(04-09-2016 08:52 PM)Cobra Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 08:48 PM)eskimobobseal Wrote:  Cobra I did not mean to call you a cuck - or even politically correct. I was just responding to the last part of that quote there but not in the context of your debate

No offense taken. I didn't think you did. I was just trying to prove a point and be "political." You don't have to be so politically correct and explain yourself .

Haha, nice one, you got me.

For the record I think you both make interesting points. It's a breath of fresh air to see people speaking their minds on here without it turning into an SJW victimhood contest.

(04-09-2016 07:53 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(04-09-2016 06:52 PM)Cobra Wrote:  This may come off as an unpopular post. I'm not sure I agree with your disagreement. Women have much more drastic ways to hurt society than a Bernie vote. Additionally, there have been very many liberal bosses that have given me many raises. Here's the challenge. There are good workers and there are shitty workers, just like there are good people and bad people. The moment you start thinking liberal versus conservative within that context, you lose sight of their work performance. I have done it myself before discovering the forum and the red pill and failed miserably at a lot things including women.

You don't fire people for being leftist and not every liberal is an SJW. Taking a person's livelihood to get back at the "liberals" or "SJW" establishment is not a very red pill way to live life, let alone masculine at all. At some levels, this liberal versus conservative drama is akin to the forum's infamous "alpha versus beta" conundrum. I have said this before, but "thinking too much about alpha versus beta is beta" just the same as thinking so much into "liberalism versus conservatism" is also beta. When you try to squeeze human beings into theoretical concepts of politics, you not only buy into the frame of the mainstream but also end up changing as a person, likely not for the better. It's as simple as that. Real world experience is the only thing that can change that. Not this thread. Not the forum. Not watching FOX or Breitbart. The REAL world. Period.

In the past, I worked with liberals that were amazing performers. Hanging out with them was tough, but they did some amazing work. I also worked with conservative people that were lazy and felt "entitled." I currently work in a sales environment, which you would think is very conservative and Republican. It is absolutely not. You don't know how many women I end up disagreeing with and explain why Hillary sucks. These are the same women that get back and bring in tons of revenue. And you know what? I don't give a rat's ass if they vote for Bernie or Hillary. As long as they are bringing in money by working hard, THEY have MY vote.

Have you hired and worked with people? Supervising and taking care of your employees is a difficult task. Just like in life, friendships and family relationships, it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises. I understand this election is important but let's not forget who we are and how to treat people right.

You don't fire people for being leftist: but everyday men are fired for being "conservative, entitled men"... why shouldn't we fire leftist feminists, if opportunity arises and a conservative man or woman can fill the job.

it's best to NOT bring politics in when critical decisions are on the line, like promotions and raises: but once again, all around the western world, leftists do just that, hampering conservative-men careers, on purpose. Really, we should retaliate every opportunity we have.

Now, you're talking about "real world". Well, in real world, sincerely, I have noted that 80 or 90% of leftists whom I met are, quite simply, bad people. In real life, bad people. Whereas Conservative are usually good, hard-working, honest, productive, frank people, and liking a beer and good steak.

Most leftists I met in my (real) life were bad, yes: egoistic, full of easy (State granted in general) money, preaching tolerance but living in segregated enclaves, disrespecting other people religious beliefs, refusing to do their army duties, filling their mouths with big words, but never giving one cent to anyone in real life. And vegans. So, yes, I do tend to generalize... Not all leftists I met were bad, but 80% minimum were.

Ah, and also, "in real life", leftists (with their actions and votes, given that we're talking about votes) are very close to turning my country and continent into a messy hell. One year of border opening and migrants invasion= +30% of home invasions and sexual attacks in France: leftists do have an impact on real life. A huge and very real and very bad one. Why would you forgive them? The damage they do are irreversible: entire countries fucked.

With all due respect, your post is humane and nice and well-written, but myself, I don't understand people who take politics lightly. Politics shape the world and everybody's real life, fast and hard.

Look I agree wholeheartedly that leftists have done tremendous damage and SJWs are nothing but trouble and should be avoided at all costs. I wouldn't hire an SJW feminist type due to the amount of trouble they can cause. With Google, Facebook etc, it's very easy to vet ( sp?)potential employees and eliminate these people from consideration for employment.

Like Cobra said, the vast majority of people are not black and white but come in shades of grey. I had a client today who's a liberal that I discuss politics with when I see him and while he's not a Trump fan, he agrees with some of Trump's positions. I have a vendor who owns her business who loves Bernie but said she'll vote for Trump over Hillary. I have a good friend in Arizona who's a democrat but loves Trump and is going to vote for him. He hates SJWs but really likes Obama still. Even on RVF there are a lot of guys, veteran posters who never post in this thread. I suspect it's because they don't like Trump and are generally more liberal in their views so they stay away from this thread. I know for a fact one veteran poster who hates both Trump and Sanders ( no he doesn't like Cruz or Hillary either). Do you think they're SJWs? I don't.

When it comes to politics, most people are all over the place with their views even though they usually identify and vote Rep or Dem. That's one thing Trump has in his favor if he gets to the general election in that he will get Democrats to vote for him. Remember, there are a lot of so called conservatives who will never vote Trump. Who do you think started the #NeverTrump?

As to my assistant, she's no SJW. I vetted her. Carefully. She agrees with me on many issues. She understands why I think American women suck. She thinks American culture is trash like I do. She does her job well with pride and humility. My clients like her a lot, my business has increased since she's come on board. Her performance merited a pay raise. There's nothing cuckish or gentlemanly about giving her more money, it was earned so she got it. I intend to get even more from her now and giving her this raise will help to that end. Interesting discussion but the bottom line is the world is grey, not black and white.

(04-09-2016 08:44 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  This is all true.

The fact is you could walk anywhere in a Bernie shirt and not be in danger.

If you walk around many places in the US in a Trump shirt, you very well may be in danger of being physically assaulted.

I fucking hate Liberals. The ultimate cowards. A faggot Liberal would never be aggressive like they are in the videos you see of them trying to shut down college Trump supporter groups if they were alone.

Yet Liberals are allowed by the law to form violent and aggressive mobs, as long as their hate is directed at straight while males.

When I find out someone is a liberal, I instantly lose respect for them.

And I don't blame you one bit for that.

What we've seen over the last several months is the leftist ideology devolve into a militant cult where disagreement is hate speech and the goal is a totalitarian stranglehold on language and culture. They have nothing but contempt for the constitution (as evidenced by the fiasco that was Trump's attempt at a rally in Chicago thanks to these pieces of filth) and contempt for any dissenting worldviews/opinions.

They are scum.

The Boston Globe is throwing away any pretense of news reporting and publishing another hit piece.

Sorry if this was already posted - I searched the thread but it's getting long.

Quote:Donald J. Trump’s vision for the future of our nation is as deeply disturbing as it is profoundly un-American.

Protecting our borders and respecting existing immigration policy is "un-American"

Quote:It is easy to find historical antecedents. The rise of demagogic strongmen is an all too common phenomenon on our small planet. And what marks each of those dark episodes is a failure to fathom where a leader’s vision leads, to carry rhetoric to its logical conclusion. The satirical front page of this section attempts to do just that, to envision what America looks like with Trump in the White House.

Don't worry, the hit piece that follows is just satire - so no lawsuits.

Notice the way the leftist press wants to help the Republicans win by giving us excellent advice.

Quote:The Republican Party’s standard deserves to be hoisted by an honorable and decent man, like Romney or Ryan, elected on the convention floor. It is better to lose with principle than to accept a dangerous deal from a demagogue.

Two dudes who are establishment RINOs and have already been beaten. This would be like Republicans advising the Democrats to nominate Michael Dukakis.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/...story.html

If it wasnt Trump they would be doing the same to Cruz.
I am actually taken back how many people are waking up to how fucked up the media is. In Texas a 18 year old college student was raped and murdered. The media withheld the race. Everyone called bullshit in unison. The killer was earlier hearalded as some victor over his circumstances in a school paper.

Reposting these tweets from Trump in case guys missed them.

These are important tweets. Trump needs to be making the case that the kind of delegate selection that took place in Colorado (with no primaries and no input from the voters) is undemocratic and illegitimate. It's precisely the right rhetorical frame.

This argument needs to be made again and again in the coming weeks and months and in the runup to the convention. Great move.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...8301486081

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...4538778625

Quote:Donald J. Trump [email protected] 45m45 minutes ago

The people of Colorado had their vote taken away from them by the phony politicians. Biggest story in politics. This will not be allowed!

Donald J. Trump [email protected] 1h1 hour ago

How is it possible that the people of the great State of Colorado never got to vote in the Republican Primary? Great anger - totally unfair!

Cuckholding = allowing another man to fuck your wife.

Cuckholding in the context of politics = allowing your enemies to fuck up your own country.

I think it fits just fine.

(04-10-2016 08:19 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  See, that's the thing. Dudes just like using the word -- it satisfies some centipede taste bud, I guess.

But the centipede needs to remember that it's a nimble navigator. TWO HOLLOW FANGS.

"Cuck" plays in chanworld. Real live SJWs don't care.

Try "traitor". It will trigger and hurt them. Nothing infuriates them more than this word, because they know they totally deserve it.

Traitor to what? well, they (the SJWs) know in their heart what: to their nation, ethnic group, national history, family values, ancestors, even to God's or nature's will... have your pick. They know they are traitors to many things.

Try it, you'll see them turn white with the sting and impact of this word!

(04-09-2016 07:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I assume Trump is going to dominate the North East. Basically Trump gets 1202 handedly but the last 3 states that will make or break the nomination process are Montana, South Dakota, and Nebraska, which are all winner-take-all states. It appears Trump must win in at least one of them, two to be safe.

Anyone have intel on these states? Are they cucked for Cruz or will at least one go for Trump? North Dakota went to Cruz, so the South probably will too. Nebraska isn't far away from SD either, so it looks like Cruz wins here too. The big question mark is then Montana, which borders Idaho and Nevada, both Trump states. Montana will determine the fate of America.

Common misconception ... North Dakota & South Dakota have little in common besides the name.

North Dakota is an Oil state where almost everyone is directly or indirectly reliant on the Oil & Gas industry. Huge number of transplants from all over the US ... mostly southern boys from TX,OK, LA especially in the Western Oil Patch. Naturally they'll align with Trump.

South Dakota has no oil & is a corn-husking cuck state similar to Iowa, Minnesota and Nebraska. It's a state of rural small towns full of descendants of German/Norwegian Lutheran/Evangelicals whose reality is frozen in time. Very isolated from the rest of the country & disconnected from the 21st century. People rarely leave the state unless it's to neighboring cuck states or like a weekend in Vegas where you can spot their atrocious sense of style, polite demeanor, blonde hair & 30% bodyfat from a mile away. Cruz wins SD easily.

Nebraska is the same way except it got relatively bigger cities like Omaha & Lincoln whose suburbs might go for Trump. The rest of the state will go Cruz though. Cruz wins the state.

Don't know a lot about Montana but a significant part of the eastern part of the state lies in the Bakken Formation bordering North Dakota. Same type of Oil field dominated economy and demographic that'll go for Trump.

^ The rest of the state is very much like Idaho so that might be problematic since Cruz won big. But Idaho has a huge Mormons population while Montana doesn't. So it might be true that Montana might determine the fate of America.