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Tigre · 2015-09-10 17:44:00 · #801
South Park starts a new season next week. Icon_biggrin

Can't wait to see if they take on this topic.

Surely the combination of durka-durka tribes, uptight Germans and dog-faced Merkel is an opportunity too good to refuse!
el mechanico · 2015-09-10 17:55:00 · #802
(09-10-2015 04:24 PM)iop890 Wrote:  [Image: 1441915255122.png]
I keep trying to click the link but nothing happens.
Off The Reservation · 2015-09-10 18:11:00 · #803


WalterBlack · 2015-09-10 18:13:00 · #804
(09-10-2015 04:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  This video is oldie but goldie as a British journalist finds out how wonderful the new rising Muslim minority are - guess how things will be there when they are close to 40-50%?




I'm no apologist for Islam, but the Muslims in the video are as representative of Islam as David Duke of the KKK is for white people. They are extremists.

I used to work in Luton, which is where the march is taking place. The group that is marching has only a few hundred members. The local Pakistani mosques do not let them preach there. The extremists recruit on line or try to hand out fliers in the street.

There are a lot of Pakistanis there and to be honest if I had kids I would not raise them in that town. If a kid goes to a school where 70% of his classmates are Muslim, how is he gonna turn out?

My nephew got some shit from Muslim kids at his London based school because he was playing with non-Muslim black kids. The Muslims thought he was a Muslim and that he should only play with Muslim kids.
Requiem · 2015-09-10 18:24:00 · #805
(09-10-2015 02:48 PM)GlobalMan Wrote:  Imagine being a German who is opposed to this shit and seeing your city filled with these bums all over the street who won't be leaving. Nightmare.

I wish I could imagine that. Instead I have to actually live it. I am dying inside everyday. I wake up in the morning with a feeling of doom and think this can't be real. I check RVF, I check 4chan/pol/ and everyday there are more ridiculous, unbelievable news about how our government - with the support of many of our people - betrays this country further. I talk to friends and they have absolutely not a single clue about what is actually going on. They believe the press 100%, thinking they are informed because they read different news outlets which all spread the same narrative and if I said anything against this utter clusterfuck, they would cut ties and out me amongst the other sheep. They continue living everyday life without any concern that this might not go in the direction they are hoping for (still haven't lost all my humour) and argue about stupid web series or which cheap wine is better than the other cheap wines. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
And knowing that a great many of this population are like that, it's hard for me to not leave for a sane country to be honest. These people do not deserve to be saved. They don't even want to be saved. Then again, more and more people seem to come to their senses. The poll from the RT video showing 62% in favour of stricter immigration laws gives a little hope, which is rare in the last few weeks.
WalterBlack · 2015-09-10 18:39:00 · #806
(09-10-2015 04:24 PM)Luisaceo Wrote:  Poland is certainly one of the countries that is willing to fight against the EU's dogma of refugee quotas. I'm starting to see this video going around social media however of Polish WW2 refugees in... Iran and the middle east! Now, these refugees lived in civilian camps and I strongly doubt they received any major economic help from the government. Also, most able men were actually fighting in the resistance army against Germany and most refugees in the video are women and children. I'm not completely sure about this but I think that all the refugees returned to Poland eventually. This video will probably be used however by the media to spin the narrative against Poland i.e "you were also refugees and a middle eastern country helped you in the past so it's now your turn to do the same" etc eventhough the both situations were radically different. The video itself is quite interesting though:




There were WW2 Polish refugees in India too:

Maharaja honoured with Warsaw plaza

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Quote:The Warsaw City Council passed a resolution on Friday in favour of the motion, following a campaign led by the Poland-Asia Research Center (CSPA).

A square in the Ochota district of central Warsaw has been chosen in honour of the late Indian prince, who died in 1966.

Owing to the difficulties in pronouncing the prince's full name - Jam Sri Digvijaysinhji Ranjitsinhji Jadeja – it has been decided that the site will simply be called "the Square of the Good Maharaja." Born in 1895, the monarch served as the Maharaja of Nawanagar from 1933 to 1947.

Nawanagar, which is today a part of north western India, was then one of the 565 princely states that were technically - although not in practice - independent from British rule in India.

The future ruler was educated at a boarding school in Great Britain, and his uncle, the previous Maharaja of Nawanagar, had been one of England's most celebrated cricketers.

A Saviour During the Second World War

After war broke out in September 1939, the maharaja was chosen as a member of Winston Churchill's Imperial War Cabinet.

His role in helping the Polish orphans came about as a result of the highly awkward alliance between the Western Powers and Soviet Russia.


Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia had divided up Poland in 1939, and in the Russian partition, several hundred thousand Poles – including women and children - were deported by Stalin to the depths of the Soviet Union.

However, when Hitler turned on his Russian ally, launching Operation Barbarossa in June 1941, Stalin was compelled to make an alliance with Great Britain and Poland - the Polish government-in-exile was in London at this time.

Stalin announced an amnesty for his Polish prisoners, and the enormous task of attempting to transport the scattered captives out of the Soviet Union was set in motion.

General Wladyslaw Anders, himself freshly released from captivity, began forming a prospective army of Polish soldiers from the deportees.

The Maharaja of Nawanagar became a rallying figure in solving the plight of the many children and women caught up in the conflict.

He was the first Indian to offer to help Polish children who had been deported to Siberia, Kazakhstan and elsewhere.

Premises by the maharaja's summer palace at Balachadi, on the coast of Nawanagar, were prepared in cooperation with the Polish government-in-exile, and as many as 500 orphans were transported there.


Speaking in November 1942, the maharaja expressed his hopes that in "the beautiful hills beside the seashore, the children will be able to recover their health and to forget the ordeal they went through.” The children remained there throughout the war, and they came to call the prince “Bapu” (father).

A school was set up at the site, run by delegates of the Polish government-in-exile.

Meanwhile, other Polish children found refuge in Africa and New Zealand, (the latter thanks to the intervention of New Zealand Prime Minister Peter Fraser).

A second settlement of over 5000 displaced Poles was also created in the Indian principality of Kolhapur, at Valvivade, where Poles of all age-groups found refuge.

Full Circle

Many of the adult deportees – likewise the soldiers of General Anders - did not return to Poland after the war, owing to the installation of a communist government in the country.
However, a considerable number of the orphans did resettle in their native land.

Nevertheless, the deportations to Siberia, which had been carried out by the Soviet government, were a taboo subject in communist Poland.

As a result of this, the maharaja was not honoured by the authoriries of communist Poland.

The moving spirit behind the recent campaign has been Krzysztof Iwanek of the Poland-Asia Research Center.

Cooperating with the Association of Poles in India 1942-1948, the CSPA achieved its first goal in February this year, when the Indian prince was posthumously awarded the Commander's Cross of the Order of Merit by President Bronislaw Komorowski.

Krysztof Iwanek hopes that the maharaja's good deeds will now hold a permanent place in Polish historiography
BetaNoMore · 2015-09-10 18:47:00 · #807
Can't say I know the absolute ins and outs of what's going on but I have been watching different viewpoints from a distance and I want to know what the end game is of all these PC progressive politicians?

Are they looking for a short term solution to their population's abysmal replacement rate by adding in immigrants? Are they trying to get a large influx of cheap labour?

Or maybe let's go tinfoil hat here think of this as well to exert more control 1984 style. Let in a bunch of these refugees who will no doubt have a least a small number of west-hating jihadists, let them do their terror and use that as an excuse to institute more draconian laws to exert more control over the entire population.
Libertas · 2015-09-10 19:27:00 · #808
(09-10-2015 03:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html

This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

To all the members in Finland. What are conditions on the ground like there? Any word on polling data regarding the PM's and government's support? Any signs of resistance by the populace?

Also thinking about starting a place for us to chat and coordinate, and I'm beginning to coalesce a pamphlet of positions on various issues, though I'd want to run it by Roosh and/or QC to see if it's consistent with neomasculinity before anything gets done with it.

Found this from Le Pen back in May:





100% correct as usual.

Nigel Farage ripped into the technocrats recently:





And for the European guys who maybe haven't seen it yet:





Trump is telling the truth about the "refugees" while Obama said he wants to see an additional 10,000 on top of the 1,500 already coming this year.

Like I said guys, Europe's fight is America's fight.

(09-10-2015 06:47 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Can't say I know the absolute ins and outs of what's going on but I have been watching different viewpoints from a distance and I want to know what the end game is of all these PC progressive politicians?

Are they looking for a short term solution to their population's abysmal replacement rate by adding in immigrants? Are they trying to get a large influx of cheap labour?

Or maybe let's go tinfoil hat here think of this as well to exert more control 1984 style. Let in a bunch of these refugees who will no doubt have a least a small number of west-hating jihadists, let them do their terror and use that as an excuse to institute more draconian laws to exert more control over the entire population.

The end game for the elites on top is very simple - universal liberalism with nation-states effectively gutted and destroyed, as well as the family unit.

Everything that they do centers around those two pillars.

This creates a homogenized population with no past and no future on both the individual and national level, leaving a vacuum for the corporate consumer culture to fill, while the academic elites get to pat themselves on the back that everything is now "equal."

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's all out in the open. It's a confluence of ideological and financial pressures.

But they're not invincible and we can stop them, if we are worthy of it.
Libertas · 2015-09-10 19:33:00 · #809
delete, didn't mean to double post.
rpg · 2015-09-10 19:55:00 · #810
(09-10-2015 07:27 PM)Libertas Wrote:  
(09-10-2015 03:42 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Finland raises taxes on wealthy to cover refugee costs:

http://news.yahoo.com/finland-raise-taxe...iness.html

This is basically one of the largest wealth transfers in history. Of course, none of these migrants are capable of producing any wealth themselves, so once these locousts are finished devouring the host we'll be deep in the Second Dark Age.

To all the members in Finland. What are conditions on the ground like there? Any word on polling data regarding the PM's and government's support? Any signs of resistance by the populace?

Also thinking about starting a place for us to chat and coordinate, and I'm beginning to coalesce a pamphlet of positions on various issues, though I'd want to run it by Roosh and/or QC to see if it's consistent with neomasculinity before anything gets done with it.

Found this from Le Pen back in May:





100% correct as usual.

Nigel Farage ripped into the technocrats recently:





And for the European guys who maybe haven't seen it yet:





Trump is telling the truth about the "refugees" while Obama said he wants to see an additional 10,000 on top of the 1,500 already coming this year.

Like I said guys, Europe's fight is America's fight.

(09-10-2015 06:47 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Can't say I know the absolute ins and outs of what's going on but I have been watching different viewpoints from a distance and I want to know what the end game is of all these PC progressive politicians?

Are they looking for a short term solution to their population's abysmal replacement rate by adding in immigrants? Are they trying to get a large influx of cheap labour?

Or maybe let's go tinfoil hat here think of this as well to exert more control 1984 style. Let in a bunch of these refugees who will no doubt have a least a small number of west-hating jihadists, let them do their terror and use that as an excuse to institute more draconian laws to exert more control over the entire population.

The end game for the elites on top is very simple - universal liberalism with nation-states effectively gutted and destroyed, as well as the family unit.

Everything that they do centers around those two pillars.

This creates a homogenized population with no past and no future on both the individual and national level, leaving a vacuum for the corporate consumer culture to fill, while the academic elites get to pat themselves on the back that everything is now "equal."

It's not a conspiracy theory, it's all out in the open. It's a confluence of ideological and financial pressures.

But they're not invincible and we can stop them, if we are worthy of it.
Or it blows up in their faces like a kid playing with dynamite.
el mechanico · 2015-09-10 19:59:00 · #811
This migration was not thought out too well. Trump is trying to close the borders. The Trump machine is so powerful the libs have to slow the roll and he's not even elected.

Fear!
Going strong · 2015-09-10 20:40:00 · #812
(09-10-2015 04:06 PM)Troll King Wrote:  A lot of the videos and articles I have been watching and reading over the last few weeks has made me think the same. You have some German Governors talking about seizing private rental properties to house migrants. Council estates are being evacuated of poor Germans to be razed or refurbished to house Migrants. A number of countries are talking about raising taxes on productive members.

I am wondering how long it will be until we see mass migrations of native white Europeans. Probably heading for America or maybe South America or South East Asia.

A lot of people are talking about civil war and nationalist parties, and while I think that is possible I think it is also likely that a lot of Europeans with means will decide not to fight but instead to pick up and leave.

"Council estates are being evacuated of poor Germans to be razed or refurbished to house Migrants" : same thing is happening in Belgium. For example, this young, cute Belgian single mother (called An Neve, and by the way, WB!) has been thrown out of her (council) apartment, to make room for 3 migrants Confused :

http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/34762/Crise-d...gies.dhtml

"An Neve (32 ans) est en colère. Sa frustration, elle l'a évacuée sur Facebook. Elle a été forcée d'abandonner son logement à Oostmalle (province d'Anvers) pour faire de la place aux réfugiés. "C'est le monde à l'envers", se plaint-elle. Aujourd'hui, elle se retrouve dans un "petit studio sale" avec sa fille Robine (3 ans)."

Also, almost all migrants, except... 14, have refused the emergency accommodation offered by the Belgian Red-Cross. According to the Belgian ministry Theo Francken, it's because migrants said that their tents are actually more comfy ("douillettes") than the (basic, bare) red-cross rooms! WTF??Dodgy

http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/34762/Crise-d...gies.dhtml

""J'offre un accueil de base. Quatorze personnes en veulent, les autres non. Les tentes sont apparemment trop douillettes"

Another thing: these migrant "refugees" are addicted to smartphones! What has the world come to, when even middle-eastern men act like teenage western girls?
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...And here comes... Saudi Arabia... criticized for not taking any refugee at all, not even one, Saudi Arabia has just said that, it won't take in "refugees", but... will build 200 mosques for them in Germany. Thank you very much.Confused

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...95082.html

"Saudi Arabia has reportedly responded to the growing number of people fleeing the Middle East for western Europe – by offering to build 200 mosques in Germany.

Syria’s richer Gulf neighbours have been accused of not doing their fair share in the humanitarian crisis, with Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Oman and the UAE also keeping their doors firmly shut to asylum-seekers.

According to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, which quoted a report in the Lebanese newspaper Al Diyar, Saudi Arabia would build one mosque for every 100 refugees who entered Germany in extraordinary numbers last weekend.
"

Like The Wastelander or Libertas said earlier on this thread, each time we read something new about this "migrant crisis", it's like entering the bloody Twilight Zone!
Libertas · 2015-09-10 21:03:00 · #813
This is fast becoming "When in the course of human events" territory.
uncledick · 2015-09-10 21:10:00 · #814
(09-10-2015 04:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  This video is oldie but goldie as a British journalist finds out how wonderful the new rising Muslim minority are - guess how things will be there when they are close to 40-50%?





Also the caliphate is very optimistic and has big goals:

[Image: ISIS-Map.jpg]

For some reason they left out Sweden and are cutting a beeline around Poland, which is very wise by them - maybe they remember the battle of Vienna. Of course in reality even a tiny remaining minority of Europeans would completely wipe out 2 billion Muslims. In fact the Russian could do it alone when unimpeded.

Even internal Terrorist wars can be won with sufficient surveillance if at least half the population is still in power and European.

The bigger destruction will be economic though.

I actually got a fairly hearty laugh out of that video. I give the women reporter credit for going to that shit hole and not giving us pretty lies. But the Islamic women made some important points. The reporter does look partly naked (at least amongst those people), she is dressed to seduce, she should be a bit more modest. I'm not saying I want women to look like Ninja's, but the fashion slutification of our women is even more pronounced when you see those two together.

Also you can tell this reporter has never been judged/shamed in her life. The hysterics and whining she emotes are amazing. Even got some tears from her at the end. You know she was insecure for a bit after that interview, until she was back in the land of her white liberal utopia.

I equally got a kick when the Muslim women said, "I know. I am judging you" so plainly like it was a matter of fact thing. This kind of (rightly or wrongly) superiority and shaming is something that has been all but sapped from collective European nutsacks. Something that definitely gives (extremist?) muslims an edge on us. Very refreshing black and white attitude.

Emulate what the enemy does right I say.

I appreciated that red dress tho!
GlobalMan · 2015-09-10 21:10:00 · #815
   
zombiejimmorrison · 2015-09-10 21:25:00 · #816
(09-10-2015 04:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  This video is oldie but goldie as a British journalist finds out how wonderful the new rising Muslim minority are - guess how things will be there when they are close to 40-50%?




I can literally see the hamster malfunction in some of those clips. Even so, she still uses the no true Scotsman fallacy when they're right in front of her face. No Muslim person believes that and disbelief are the liberals go to when they're confronted by these people. They will only notice the danger when its too late and they're being stoned on the street for wearing inappropriate clothes. They're at 5% at the moment UK, I think they'll notice when it reaches around 20%.

Hamster
Blaster · 2015-09-10 21:40:00 · #817
(09-10-2015 03:06 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  The thing with SyrianGirl is that although she is attractive, intelligent, and politically aware... she is in many ways a good example of why diversity doesn't work. Because she identifies more as a Syrian than an Australian.

And in no way can it be blamed on any sort of alienation. Now obviously, she's not a threat to the Australian way of life at all. But someone more disconnected than her and less intelligent than her probably would be.

I get your point but social problems don't really show up until the immigrants start coming in large numbers.

For the sake of an example, let's take crime. Let's say that 99.95% of an indigenous population are law-abiding people, while 99.70% of immigrant population is law-abiding. That doesn't seem like much, and on an individual basis it's obviously not. But at sufficient scale, it can make a huge difference. A 20% increase in population will DOUBLE the number of criminals. Unless that 20% increase in immigrant population also happens to double in the city's tax base (not likely) then the police will quickly find themselves under-staffed and over-worked.

It'll go basically the same way for other public services, like schools.
BetaNoMore · 2015-09-10 22:19:00 · #818
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Libertas · 2015-09-10 22:31:00 · #819
They have an assumption of equalism. "We're all the same, we're all the human race, we all bleed red." It's part of the core assumptions of the liberal ideology that goes back to the 18th century.

They think that culture does not matter and that nations are shopping malls.

The fact that the evidence points to the contrary doesn't stop their delusion.

The important thing to understand with what I said is that that's what these people think, not what actually *is.*

The far left (and yes, many corporations are far left in social outlook) as we know, has no connection with reality.
N°6 · 2015-09-10 23:54:00 · #820
(09-10-2015 04:40 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  For some reason they left out Sweden and are cutting a beeline around Poland, which is very wise by them - maybe they remember the battle of Vienna. Of course in reality even a tiny remaining minority of Europeans would completely wipe out 2 billion Muslims. In fact the Russian could do it alone when unimpeded.

The reason why Sweden and other countries have been excluded for now is because this interpretation of Islamic law holds that former Muslim countries must revert to Islam.

The other countries for now will just experience the 'Hegira', that is to say 'peaceful' immigration to welcoming non-believing countries. This is based on the Muslim version of the Mormon and Afrikaner great treks as Mohammed encouraged the early Muslims to trek from hostile Mecca to trusting Medina to settle.
spokepoker · 2015-09-11 00:48:00 · #821
(09-10-2015 10:19 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  I'm not sure if that makes sense to me.

If the goal is for ultimately for the corporate overloads to profit from a consumerist culture, how would it benefit them to bring in staunch anti-west peoples who, due to their strong religious beliefs will buffer them from assimilating into the original dominant culture?

A lot of the justified fears of these refugees not assimilating into the current culture contradict your theory. It can't be both. Either these people are going to assimilate or they won't. I believe that they won't so that means they won't be part of the consumerist culture.

None of this makes sense to me. These countries are opening a very dangerous pandora's box and I can't see how any of these politicians can think it's a good idea unless they're trying to have some sort of sort term solution to the population replacement problem.

From the pictures I've seen of these refugees, they look like perfect consumers. They all have smartphones, and when they get welfare, they spend it on ipads and stuff. It's like the governments giving money straight to the gadget corporations, with these fugees as the middle men. And seeing as how they're all single dudes, it's not like they're out buying diapers and baby formula for their families, so any spending money goes straight to new toys.
johnfortunebg · 2015-09-11 00:54:00 · #822
As usual, Taleb is right. I sincerely hope that more Arabs are like him, although I know better.
Wutang · 2015-09-11 01:16:00 · #823
Was looking at stats about Syrian refugees and according to this site the gender split is pretty much 50/50 when it comes to male and female refugees pouring in

http://data.unhcr.org/syrianrefugees/regional.php

Weird cause when you look at photos it seems like it's almost mostly adult males.
Paracelsus · 2015-09-11 01:24:00 · #824
(09-10-2015 10:19 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  I'm not sure if that makes sense to me.

If the goal is for ultimately for the corporate overloads to profit from a consumerist culture, how would it benefit them to bring in staunch anti-west peoples who, due to their strong religious beliefs will buffer them from assimilating into the original dominant culture?

A lot of the justified fears of these refugees not assimilating into the current culture contradict your theory. It can't be both. Either these people are going to assimilate or they won't. I believe that they won't so that means they won't be part of the consumerist culture.

None of this makes sense to me. These countries are opening a very dangerous pandora's box and I can't see how any of these politicians can think it's a good idea unless they're trying to have some sort of sort term solution to the population replacement problem.

Whilst I don't quite ascribe to the global conspiracy theory, I can see the argument that Teh Elitez are playing the long game. As the population becomes more Islamic, more violent, and more hating of other cultures, it breeds conflict. Arms companies like that. And conflict also provides an excuse to raise surveillance on everyone, since the Left will never accept racial or cultural profiling even when it's apparent a large segment of certain types of crime is being committed disproportionately by certain racial groups. It was not during the Cold War that domestic surveillance on every Western man, woman and child was heavily amped up, but during the war on terror.

The Elitez (the less smart among them, that is) may also be of the view that the "good" immigrants vastly outnumber the bad, and "good" immigrants are much, much less likely to question authoritarian regimes when they've come from such regimes themselves. (Consider the commentary here that the Middle East doesn't shut the fuck up and stop bombing others unless strongmen like Gaddafi or Saddam are in power there.)

"Good" immigrants coming from shitbox countries blasted apart by war also are less likely to form into the sort of bodies demanding wage rises at a macro level; quite the contrary, as education for children around the world heads for the toilet, such ethnic groups are more likely to ghettoise, manipulate the welfare system and pick up any minimum or low wage job around, thus keeping wages lower on sheer supply dwarfing demand.

Just some thoughts. Again, not sure if I buy these as such.
Paracelsus · 2015-09-11 01:30:00 · #825
Double post, but:

(09-10-2015 05:44 PM)Tigre Wrote:  South Park starts a new season next week. Icon_biggrin

Can't wait to see if they take on this topic.

Surely the combination of durka-durka tribes, uptight Germans and dog-faced Merkel is an opportunity too good to refuse!

To which I'd say: not bloody likely. Brave, "We Don't Care Who We Lampoon" South Park tried laughing at Teh Prophet once -- in the "Super Best Friends" show. They were threatened by an Islamic group that implied they'd end up like Theo Van Gogh.

Ever gone looking for the "Super Best Friends" episode on South Park's website? It isn't there. The Courageous Cartoon Crusaders quietly removed it from distribution there - because they're shit-scared of criticising Islam.
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