Well the great American saviour Donald Trump agrees America should take some Syrian refugees.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/dona...cid=LENDHP

(09-09-2015 07:37 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Well the great American saviour Donald Trump agrees America should take some Syrian refugees.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/dona...cid=LENDHP

And we should settle them right smack dab in San Francisco. Beautiful weather.

^ Trump should pull some "Malicious Compliance" like that. Old sanctuary cities get the Syrians.

The reality is that, when you start doing some real screening, they will quit showing up. They'll realize the scam is over and move on to the next one.

I'm sure what Trump has in mind is just a symbolic measure, not actually admitting thousands. I highly doubt it's anything more than lip service, he's not down with this kind of crap. At least I hope not, that is.

He did say that it has changed Europe. And not in a good way.

So, I know we're all pissed off, but are we going to try to do something about it? I and a few others have suggested some ideas, and it's a good time for neomasculinity to assert itself.

We know the problem, but how are we going to take what we talk about here and scale it?

Mike's already on the way, what can we do? Any of you guys organizing meetups or other activities?

(09-09-2015 05:33 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  Slavoj Zizek, noted Marxist intellectual, has weighed in on the migrant/refugee crisis.

And... In a move I call "Agreeing with reactionaries for the wrong reasons" pretty much sides with us. Albeit with a marxist bent he states every objection and moment of theorizing we have: http://t.co/SAWZ4XkJWJ

He even channels Zelcorpion by noting that this is motivated (partly) by a desire for a cheap and balkanized work force.

Although, Chinese textile mill owners in Egypt report being dissatisfied with the workers. So I doubt that will work out in the long run without having the natives acting as welfare batteries whose wages are also cut.

He also had an interview on Democracy Now in 2010 where he blamed multiculturalists for the rise of far right wing parties in Europe.
He echoes the same sentiment here. And considering that r/worldnews and r/europe, two otherwise left of center places, have little sympathy for these "refugees" and the latter's frontpage is filled with anti-immigrant articles; one can assume he has a point

That interview was fascinating because he veered into alt right territory: chiefly 1. Racist is a classist word used by wealthy whites to shame poor whites for not accepting diversity and 2. NRx Cathedral talk about how "experts" and academia are sacralized, reducing the "public domain of reason" as he called it.

As Le Pen said, there is no left or right. The only distinction that really matters is between nationalists and globalists.

(09-09-2015 01:46 PM)N°6 Wrote:  Washington DC still clears German TV content.

Citation needed.

(09-09-2015 07:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  So, I know we're all pissed off, but are we going to try to do something about it? I and a few others have suggested some ideas, and it's a good time for neomasculinity to assert itself.

We know the problem, but how are we going to take what we talk about here and scale it?

Mike's already on the way, what can we do? Any of you guys organizing meetups or other activities?

I joined Generation Identity's US branch. Waiting to get my shit in the mail from them. I'll let you guys know what's up when I do.

I don't accept Jesus. If I did I would not be Jewish. The messiah hasn't come yet. Although some sects of Judaism believe he has come as certain Rebbes (Rabbis of Rabbis basically). I'm not religious myself although I used to be more observant. I personally found the Messianic aspects of Judaism hard to relate to. Talmud is not source of Judaism but it does contain a lot valuable commentary on Mishna laws. Your average globalist Jews could not tell you anything about it, like that Spectre woman.

(09-09-2015 05:43 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 04:51 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  While many Jews have done their part to bring about our current leftist social order, being a high IQ group you just cannot be surprised to find them near the top of any structure that exists. Of the people I know in real life some of the most anti-socialist anti-feminist anti-leftist people are Jews as well.

But are they outliers? If not, what would explain why Jews vote almost entirely Democratic? In 2008 about 80% of the Jewish vote went to Obama. I'm not sure how they vote in Europe. Maybe someone could shed some light.

I live in NYC so almost everyone I know is at least a liberal if not a self-identified Socialist, Marxist etc.

So knowing anyone who even identifies as right-wing at all is a bit of a rare thing to begin with.

I know some Christians who are in finance who identify as Republican just because of "cut taxes and deregulate industries" but basically have liberal social policies.

The only real right-wingers I know are Jews in fact, all the Christians I know here are left-wingers.

Jews vote overwhelmingly liberal because liberalism is the dominant social ideology of our day and Jews want to be in the party of power.

(09-09-2015 05:23 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I don't care if a Jew calls himself left or right, all that matters is his religious affiliation. The ones who hate Christ are nation wreckers because they fundamentally deny Truth and seek to subvert Christ's teachings.

Atheist Rightwing Jew who nonetheless finds far-right Christian ideology persuasive, ie. that people are happier and society functions better under Christian rules.

I believe that religion is necessary for people to be happy it synchs up well with people's basic cognitive patterns, fosters community, family, brotherly love and a sense of community, all which are needed to keep a community going strong.

Still don't think God is real, but I recognize that religious rules and practices are completely useful and necessary for the kind of trusting peaceful prosperous society I would like to live in.

Greek "pirates" rob migrants of €35,000 and toss them into sea:

Quote:He was on a boat carrying 40 Syrians which was drifting for over an hour after their motor failed.

‘Then suddenly we were attacked by were seven masked men all in black, on a big speed boat,' he said. ‘They had guns and knives and they pushed us onto the floor of the boat on top of each other, shouting at us - I didn’t understand the language.

‘They took €850 that I had on me and about €35,000 from the whole boat. They put all the cash in one bag and all the mobile phones in another bag. They cut the boat with a knife and threw the motor in in sea. Then they threw us in the sea.

‘We were all wearing life jackets but we obviously believed we were all going to die. But a few minutes after the attack the Turkish coastguard came to the rescue.’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...anean.html

The guys glasses are in awfully good shape for being beaten. Not a scratch on the lens.

I'm disappointed the pirates aren't wearing eye patches or pirate clothes.

This will be especially harmful to the people who legally immigrated to these countries. Once the right wing inevitably swings back, I fully expect them to attack Chinese, Jamaicans, and other productive minorities, not just the refugees. I also fully expect the refugees, many of whom are rural poor from countries like Pakistan, to target the Jewish population. The native European middle classes will suffer, but they at least will be able to politically coalesce--I doubt the future right wing will have any place for anyone who isn't a German/Austrian/what have you. It will be interesting, however, to see how this dynamic plays out in a country like Britain, where a sizable proportion of the population immigrated legally and lack any affinity for either the right wing or Islamic extremism.

This is also bad news for brown dudes like me who may someday want to visit Europe...I can't imagine spitting game at some girl who's spent the last week getting groped and catcalled by a bunch of villagers from rural Afghanistan.

On an unrelated but interesting point, countries like Iran and India have actually been taking in huge numbers of refugees for several years. India's taken millions from Bangladesh and several thousand from Tibet, while Iran has accepted millions of refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan. Even Pakistan has taken in tons of people fleeing the violence in Afghanistan. I

(09-09-2015 08:37 PM)kbell Wrote:  The guys glasses are in awfully good shape for being beaten. Not a scratch on the lens.

I'm disappointed the pirates aren't wearing eye patches or pirate clothes.

Yea even Euro pirates are pussies

(09-09-2015 08:38 PM)Agastya Wrote:  This will be especially harmful to the people who legally immigrated to these countries. Once the right wing inevitably swings back, I fully expect them to attack Chinese, Jamaicans, and other productive minorities, not just the refugees. I also fully expect the refugees, many of whom are rural poor from countries like Pakistan, to target the Jewish population. The native European middle classes will suffer, but they at least will be able to politically coalesce--I doubt the future right wing will have any place for anyone who isn't a German/Austrian/what have you. It will be interesting, however, to see how this dynamic plays out in a country like Britain, where a sizable proportion of the population immigrated legally and lack any affinity for either the right wing or Islamic extremism.

In UK there’s hundreds of thousands of Pakistanis and they broadly leave the Jews alone. I can’t see how more of them in UK would change the equation. There's been a constant immigration from Pakistan for the last 4 decades. I also can't see any white British people attacking Chinese or Jamaicans - they tend to like Jamaicans a lot more than they like Eastern Europeans.

(09-09-2015 08:38 PM)Agastya Wrote:  This is also bad news for brown dudes like me who may someday want to visit Europe...I can't imagine spitting game at some girl who's spent the last week getting groped and catcalled by a bunch of villagers from rural Afghanistan.

British Indian here – I was speaking to my UK based brother about this a couple of days ago. This will totally fuck the image of brown people who have legally immigrated to the UK. IRTs from India have already ruined the image of Indian men in the US, thousands of thirsty middle easterners swarming Europe will make shit worse in mainland Europe too.

(09-09-2015 08:38 PM)Agastya Wrote:  On an unrelated but interesting point, countries like Iran and India have actually been taking in huge numbers of refugees for several years. India's taken millions from Bangladesh and several thousand from Tibet, while Iran has accepted millions of refugees from Iraq and Afghanistan. Even Pakistan has taken in tons of people fleeing the violence in Afghanistan. I

Look how that worked out...2012 Assam violence

Quote:In July 2012, violence in the Indian state of Assam broke out with riots between indigenous Bodos and Bengali-speaking Muslims.The first incident was reported to have taken place on 20 July 2012. As of 8 August 2012, 77 people had died and over 400,000 people were taking shelter in 270 relief camps, after being displaced from almost 400 villages. Eleven people have been reported missing.

On 27 July 2012, Assam's Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi blamed the UPA led national government for a "delay in army deployment to riot-hit areas". The next day, Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh visited the relief camps in Kokrajhar and called the recent violence a blot on the face of India. Indian Home Minister P. Chidambaram visited the state on Monday, 30 July to review the security situation and the relief and rehabilitation measures being taken.

Lok Sabha member from Bodoland, Sansuma Khunggur Bwiswmuthiary blamed illegal immigration for the violence in the state. The Election Commissioner of India, H.S. Brahma, said that of the 27 districts in Assam, 11 of them will be shown to have a Muslim majority when the 2011 census figures are published. Singh was criticised for not dealing with the flood of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh, A fraudster posing as a scholar had asserted that the flooding of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh was a myth

The violence and exodus of thousands of people from Northeast India reportedly led to a series of incessant protests in Assam, at multiple locations, during the months of August–September. The protesters' main demand was expeditious detection and deportation of illegal infiltrators from Assam. On 15 September, at a convention of non-political tribal groups, organisations representing Bodo, Dimasa, Tiwa, Deuri, Karbi, Garo, Rabha, Sonowal Kacharis and other tribal communities decided to form a coordination committee for the cause. The tribal leaders said that illegal immigration has threatened the existence, right to land and resources to all indigenous people of the entire state, and it was not limited to Bodoland alone.

Quote:In 1998, Srinivas Kumar Sinha, who then was governor of Assam, had sent a report to then Indian President, KR Narayanan, explaining about the problems that the unchecked illegal immigration of Bangladeshis would bring to the integrity of India. In that report, he had highlighted the history that Assam was first claimed by Pakistan during 1947 and then by Bangladesh, due to its rich natural resources. The report raised worries about what might happen if the illegal immigrants gain majority and ask for secession from India. He also cited the "Greater Bangladesh project" which might entice the immigrants to merge those regions of Assam with Bangladesh[27]

Quote:The rapid growth of international Islamic fundamentalism may provide the driving force for this demand. The loss of lower Assam will severe the entire North-East from the rest of India and the rich natural resources of that region will be lost to the nation.

—Srinivas Kumar Sinha.

Quote:According to the Times of India, some 14 Muslim groups which came into existence in the last 20 years are under observation by intelligence agencies after inputs suggested that their activities were "inimical to peace and social harmony". The organizations named are Muslim Security Council of Assam, United Liberation Militia of Assam, Islamic Liberation Army of Assam, Muslim Volunteer Force, Muslim Liberation Army, Muslim Security Force, Islamic Sevak Sangh and Islamic United Reformation Protest of India

Quote:On 11 August 2012, a Muslim protest against the riots in Assam and attacks on Muslims in Burma was held at Azad Maidan in Mumbai. The protest was organised by Raza Academy, and was attended by two other groups, Sunni Jamaitul Ulma and Jamate Raza-e-Mustafa. It ended in violence; two were killed and 54 others injured, including 45 policemen

Riots between indigenous people and illegal immigrants....hmm...does that situation sound familiar to you guys?

(09-09-2015 02:42 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 02:24 PM)RIslander Wrote:  This is a chart of births per woman, by nation. In developed nations, it is estimated that between a value under 2.1 results in a decline.



This is an interesting read on the world's changing demographics. Every country in the west, save France, Iceland and Greenland, is in population decline. Most Asian nations are as well, and Latin America seems to be stagnant. Africa is blowing up. I think its also important to note that a good percentage of the Western births are those of migrants as well.

Wikipedia: Sub-Replacement Fertility

The number of kids of that the descedents of migrants tends to reduce as well over time.

Most of people of my parents generation (who had emigrated from India to UK in 1960s) had between 4-6 kids, whereas the first generation of British Indians born in the UK (born between 1960s to 1980s) have 1-3 kids. It's very rare for anybody to have 4 kids+ nowadays. Most of the British born Muslims I know have 1-3 kids.

Correct but then what? The economic model will then require fresh imports to replace the relatively infertile populations already in a host-nation (be they the original population or 2-3 generation immigrant families).

That map simply shows how liberal/feminist policies lead to destruction of nations.

Hello everyone...
Great thread,great commentary for the most part.
It boils down to - If Europe allows this open border policy they will be overwhelmed with "penniless" refugees. From everywhere!
So it won't last long. If it does then our Anglo/Euro societies are fucked.
We are too weak/shamed/infected/divided to say what's real. Or organise ourselves into any semblance of warning/resistance in our own defence?
It's just Darwinism.

(09-09-2015 03:33 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  One of the biggest lies in this current propaganda machine:

"We need more talent and more workers, because we are an aging population - our birth rates are below replacement level and falling."

Well, first of all, uneducated men that don't have any skills (language or otherwise) and come from backwards countries... No matter what you say, they won't become the next Steve Jobs, even though his biological father might have been a Syrian. And secondly: automation, robots, digital solutions, algorithms... We don't need more workers, plain and simple. And the need for workers will keep diminishing every year.

Yes that is the biggest lie given that the West has been undertaking an aggressive policy of asset stripping and exporting productive jobs to the Far East since the 1980s.

Productive jobs out and unproductive single men in - what could possibly go wrong?

I agree HotW.
It's basically a huge socialist/equalist/ "Marxist lite" takedown of Western civilization for some undefined Utopia.
We forget history quick.
It always ends in a shootout.

(09-09-2015 07:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  So, I know we're all pissed off, but are we going to try to do something about it? I and a few others have suggested some ideas, and it's a good time for neomasculinity to assert itself.

We know the problem, but how are we going to take what we talk about here and scale it?

Mike's already on the way, what can we do? Any of you guys organizing meetups or other activities?

I don't really have a specific plan on what course of organized action to take but here are some ideas to be mindful about during this situation.

1. Continue self-improvement. Self-improvement creates strong men and, at the moment, the West needs strong men in order to survive.

2. Related to the point above, we need to have a strong mindset and a strong will. I see a lot of defeatism on this thread, especially from the guys in Europe. I'll admit that I also got a little depressed and gave up hope on the situation while I was reading this thread. However, the Hungarian Prime Minister is right - this is only the beginning. There is still time to take action and resolve on what's going on.

3. Similarly to the above point in that it pertains to proper mindset - we need to stop blaming others for the cultural and demographic decline in the West and accept that it is mainly the West's fault. I don't want to get into that much detail since it would detract from the main point, but the cultural decline of the West started long before Jewish and liberal inoculation of feminism, multiculturalism, diversity, cultural marxism, etc. Sure, they exacerbated the decline but we need to admit that Westerners are primarily at fault for the decline. More importantly, we can reverse it, so that our culture becomes healthy and strong again.

4. Use positive momentum from previous victories. Earlier in the thread, I remember somebody mentioning this and using gamergate as an example. I agree with him, but, perhaps, a better example would be Roosh's victories in Montreal and Toronto over the summer. Sure, it is not the same thing as the refugee crisis and the stakes are higher this time. However, Roosh's victories demonstrated two important key points, namely a group of strong men can prevail against overwhelming odds and our opponents are weak and disorganized, which means they can be beaten.

5. Take small steps of individual action and stand up to SJW's and their allies and supporters. By small steps of individual action, I don't mean to shoot yourself on the foot by trying to educate or persuade your boss or coworker. However, challenge SJWs in your daily interactions with them. This will accomplish two things. First, it will show SJWs that there is resistance and that they no longer have complete control of the narrative. And more importantly, it will give confidence to other people who know that the direction we are going is wrong but are too afraid to speak up.

There is still time and hope for things to get better.

I'll wrap up it with a positive remark that Roosh wrote at the end of last year from this post http://www.rooshv.com/culture-war-predictions-for-2015:

"In 2013, we saw a large increase in manosphere readership that began to ejaculate our ideas onto the mainstream. In 2014, these ideas became the morning sickness that left the enemy unprepared and unwilling to respond with logic, reason, and facts. In 2015, you will see the birthing on our side of semi-formalized alliances between various groups that use more organized action to deal crushing blows upon panicked feminists and SJW’s. Media owners will reconsider their usefulness. At the same time, our mob will grow to a frightening size after growing big and strong on breast milk, and they will be lustful for blood.

We must simply continue doing what we’re doing, because it’s working. Our efforts have not been in vain, and will end up changing the very fabric of Western society."

WalterBlack is an undercover Pakistani apologist.
Well...11 rep points worth of

Quino...
Great post.

(09-10-2015 12:20 AM)Tailgunner Wrote:  WalterBlack is an undercover Pakistani apologist.
Well...11 rep points worth of

I'd tread carefully insulting membership, when you have no rep points and only 39 posts.

Especially when you claim something and don't have anything to back up it up or even leave an actual response as to why.