No, we don't want them

Czech Euro MP Petr Mach: If you force refugee quotas on the Czech Republic, Czechs will want to leave the EU

Czech, Slovaks hold firm against refugee quotas after EU proposal

Czech, Slovak interior ministers again reject refugee quotas

Migration is a serious problem for Europe. I'm glad to see that so many guys around here know the truth. I live in Denmark where more than half the population are against illegal immigration, but only a selected few are heard. The media only focus on globalists and wants us to feel sorry for the so-called refugees. The left wing and center politicians screams like little girls about how "we are all just people and need to be taken care of" whenever immigration is up for debate, while the nationalist Danish People's Party has been surprisingly quiet during the last few weeks even though they are the second largest party.

The consequence is that thousands of illegal refugees have been crossing the border, and nothing is done about it. Luckily, most of them don't even like it here (because Danes are apparently not friendly enough) and they are now on their way to Sweden.

And I like what Libertas writes. We need to take action against this problem in real life (although spreading the message online might work just a little bit too). I'm all for starting local networks of men and women who are willing to go against these historical mistakes European politicians are currently making. If a serious anti-immigration group (that actually takes action) is founded in Europe, man, I'll be the first guy to sign up. This has nothing to do with racism, but everything to do with preserving our culture.

Here are a few more videos that do a much better job showing the scale of the problem in Lesbos, Greece.





Around the 3 minute mark in this video the woman talks about how they stab the boats with a wooden spike so that they can either get rescued by the Coast Guard and be guaranteed entry or so they can float the last little bit to the shore. You can see dozens, if not more, life vests abandoned along with some rubber skips. Apparently it is only 6 miles from Turkey to Lesbos, Greece. I didn't realize how close it is. You could probably swim that, especially if you knew how to predict the tide.

Croatia, where 21% of the population lives below the poverty line, is going to bend over for its EU overlords and take in over 3000 migrants.

To add insult to injury, our fucking cowardly leftist traitor of a prime minister has proclaimed that these "migrants will be given a chance to work" - in a country that already has a 17,5% unemployment rate!

The conservative opposition is cucking and eager to support this outrageous decision as well.

If Živi Zid (the only anti-EU, anti-NATO political party in Croatia) doesn't win the next elections by a landslide, then our people really deserve to go extinct for being so fucking stupid.

There is a steady influx of images on social media showing jihadist looking creeps disguised as "refugees".
Some are clearly fake and photoshopped but sometimes you can't tell the difference.
Whatever, I have a bad gut feeling about all of this, but sometimes a good lie or well orchestrated propaganda piece is necessary to win the propaganda war. I think at this point just scarring the shit out of people is urgent to make a change.

An example:

   

Google translation:
"The crowd militia fighters and Islamic Jihad Ulkipaia shaved beards and emigrated to Austria say what al-Sistani and where you are going to events in Iraq #? !!"

(09-10-2015 11:01 AM)UncleSam Wrote:  There is a steady influx of images on social media showing jihadist looking creeps disguised as "refugees".
Some are clearly fake and photoshopped but sometimes you can't tell the difference.
Whatever, I have a bad gut feeling about all of this, but sometimes a good lie or well orchestrated propaganda piece is necessary to win the propaganda war. I think at this point just scarring the shit out of people is urgent to make a change.

An example:



Google translation:
"The crowd militia fighters and Islamic Jihad Ulkipaia shaved beards and emigrated to Austria say what al-Sistani and where you are going to events in Iraq #? !!"

Just be careful you post up is genuine. Vice has already debunked quite a few.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/kleinfeld...unking-846

Polish parish took in some christian reffugges from Syria. They gave them place, food and job, but they ran away for Germany anyway:

Quote:Parish of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in Srem few weeks ago adopted a family of Christian refugees from Syria. The pastor arranged for an apartment in a new housing estate, food, school for the children, as well as jobs for adults. Sorry - Syrians in last Sunday under cover of night went to Germany. - Without a word. And we gave them as much help .... Now we have a lesson for the future - says naTemat priest Richard Adamczak.

Source: Translated by google

I just found this really interesting blog about the migrant crisis in Sweden.

It is written by an American living there, I don't think it has been posted here yet. So, here it is:

http://swedenreport.org/2015/04/14/sacri...to-save-1/


I haven't read all of the entries yet, literally just found it a few minutes ago, but it looks to be really good. For that reason I am not going to quote the whole thing but instead encourage you guys to click it and read through it.

In this post he talks about the different ways migrants game the system

Apparently not long ago most countries didn't age-test and apparently Sweden still doesn't

The reason this is important is because 'minors' are not only fast tracked through the asylum process but are also given better housing, a staff to wait on them 24/7, and a lot more money.

So, you have obvious guys who are in their 20's and maybe even 30's who are claiming to be minors seeking refuge to get the benefits and the government won't question them for fear of being called racist and the only way to find out, since they don't have papers, is to age-test them with doctors but Sweden won't do that either.

A few highlights:

Quote:These are a special category of refugees with much higher chance of getting asylum. Since they’re minors, they also get much higher class housing with 24/7 assistants waiting on them. Naturally, the cost for this category is considerably higher than regular asylum seekers. The normal cost is between 3000 and 6000 SEK ($350-700) per day per child, but in some circumstances it can skyrocket upwards 15 000 SEK ($1750) per day. But these are kids we’re talking about, right? Like these:

   

Quote:First off, almost nobody has ID upon arrival, so nobody really has any idea who the person really is or how old he (usually a male) really is. And unlike the other Nordic countries, Sweden stubbornly refuses to age-test. So anyone hoping to get fast-tracked to a granted visa can claim to be a minor, and due to fear of being called a racist, nobody calls them on it. The results are sometimes downright comical.

Quote:Here is a 14-year old little boy running at a school in Kristianstad. You can read the full article in the local newspaper here, where the reporter is just marveling over how fast he is!

Quote:Here is another 14-year old child, interviewed by state-owned radio P4.

Quote:This is the prime minister (second from right) visiting a home for refugee children.

Here is some sobering information that is comically absurd:

Quote:All jest aside, this is of course absurd. The other Nordic countries also saw the rise in “children” knocking on their doors, and did the sensible thing: had their doctors run a simple age test by measuring bones and/or checking teeth. In Denmark, 3 out of 4 “children” arriving the first months of 2012 turned out to be adults. Norway got the same results; 3 out of 4. Finland “only” turned out to have 65% frauds, but still took the cake by having a 29-year old posing as a minor.

I gotta say that I found this interaction in the comment section of that post interesting, frustrating, and horrifying all at the same time:

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Jenn

April 14, 2015 at 7:25 pm


How do the Swedish parents feel about having obviously grown men in the same class as their children? If I had a 13-14 year old blonde daughter at the “age of awakening curiosity” … Let’s just say I would have some concerns.

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April 14, 2015 at 8:03 pm


Some parents don’t seem to mind seeing as they are sending their young blonde daughters / sons to “Världens bästa sommarläger” (The world’s best summer camp), in Söderköping. A project arranged by the Red Cross, Swedish Church, and the local government so that young Swedes in high school can interact with “young refugees” primarily from Afghanistan and Somalia.

“If you are going to create good relations a prerequisite is eating together, brushing your teath together and living like this” – says Eva-Lotta Martinsson

Extract from the article “Lägret ska motverka rasism” (The camp is going to counteract racism)

http://www.nt.se/nyheter/soderkoping/lag...58025.aspx

Damn, it looks like the blogger has stopped publishing due to deciding to leave Sweden and return to America. Apparently I misspoke because he is a swede who simply lived in America for some time before returning and now leaving Sweden for good.

Either way, I still suggest you guys check out his blog. If you are like me, then you knew that immigration was a problem in the EU but it was only recently that I realized just how big of a catastrophe it really is. It is one thing to hear about a few no-go zones in Sweden, London, or Paris and to hear about things like Rotherdam or increased rape rates or a few terror attacks here or there but the stuff I have been reading and watching over the last month or so has really opened my eyes to how big of a clusterfuck this all is.

Hearing about potentially millions of immigrants just in the next year or two, with the majority ending up in Sweden and Germany and the fact that they are celebrating this....is just mind boggling to me.

Here is one of his articles that gives you a good idea about how out of touch Sweden is (PS: I used to get my ass kicked a few times by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt): http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/14/rewarding-jihadists/

Quote:Rewarding Jihadists

The Swedish capital of Stockholm has released its new policy document for dealing with ISIS fighters returning to the city after having had their fill of rape and beheadings of civilians. At first blush it seems strange that such a document would be all of 9 pages.

I mean, “Shoot!” should only take up one page, even with a large font.

Oh well, let’s see how Stockholm intends to handle terrorist-trained and combat-hardened fanatics. Here are a few translated highlights to capture the gist of things:

Quote:“Post-perspective: When a person wishes to leave a violent extremist grouping or coming home from combat overseas, it is crucial to provide customized inclusion efforts. Even then, it is important to have a local cooperation between various actors. Voluntary organizations can provide targeted support and advice. Even faith communities working with advice, but also psychosocial support.

When it comes to people who participated in combat there is likely to be great need of health efforts. Therefore, it is important to establish cooperation between social services, social psychiatry and drug units, as well as health centers and psychiatric services (trauma, PTSD, etc.)

When it comes to security, it is important that cooperation between social services, income support, employment and other efforts by the Labour Department, as well as assistance with job placement.
Finally, the accommodation issue is a prerequisite that must work. Therefore, cooperative housing companies needs to be included in the post-perspective.”

To summarize: The city of Stockholm will make it a priority to provide the returning ISIS fighters with housing, free health care (physical and mental) and full financial support, until they have received earmarked jobs. All this of course fast-tracked past the line of law-abiding immigrants and indigenous Swedes.

Since they now provide all the recruitment incentives for joining ISIS, the only thing missing is a city-run recruitment office. Oh, wait. That would the Employment Office, where it was recently revealed that tax-paid clerks were recruiting for ISIS. Sorry, my mistake!

Then it’s time to make proactive efforts to discourage radicalization. The solution, the city concludes, is to pour tax money into muslim organizations already in contact with the at-risk persons:

Quote:“Support to associations and other stakeholders locally
There are examples of local actors which can contribute to efforts locally. For example, the Islamic Association and the mosque in Rinkeby-Kista has initiated education for interested parents and youths in the Järva area. It is very important to support such local initiatives. It is also important to involve local associations, some of which have contact with residents that the authorities do not come into contact with.”

As journalist and blogger Per Gudmundson points out, the Islamic Association of Sweden is a remarkably poor choice for “fighting Jihad” since it is the Swedish branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Their official motto reads:

Quote:“Allah is our goal, the prophet is our leader, the quran is our law, Jihad is our way, and death for the honor of Allah is our greatest desire!”

Gudmundson notes that they are in active combat in Syria at the moment, in coalition with Jabhat al-Nusrah which is a branch of al-Qaida.

Also, here is a funny one:

http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/13/swede...neon-sign/

Quote:Sweden to combat Russian subs with underwater gay neon sign

Sweden has had regular visits by Russian submarines snooping around the waters outside capital Stockholm for decades. The

difference is, back in the 1980s they had helicopters, destroyers and manpower to hunt them properly, whereas now the defense cuts have scaled the response back to having an overweight general shake his fist at the water for 20 minutes per business day (10 minutes on Fridays, due to union regulations).

Clearly, the time has come for alternative solutions, and pacifist group Svenska Freds has just the thing: An underwater neon sign to scare homophobic submarine captains away!

The sign reads: “Welcome to Sweden. Gay since 1944.” which indicates the year homosexuality was de-criminalized.

Well, if nothing else, I have to tip my hat in recognition of “thinking outside the box”.

Hahaha. Swedish cucks are inviting Jihadi's to go to school with their daughters, turn their cities into mini-caliphates, rape their women, bomb and riot all over the place, and they think the best way to intimidate Russian military aggression is with this.

This just isn't going to end well for the countries accepting these refugees.

You know what's funny where is the brotherhood in Islam, how come the rich Arab countries aren't opening their doors ?

How come noone is calling them out ?

Why ? Because they already know what's going on, what's going to happen, and don't want these people within their borders.

(09-10-2015 12:30 PM)kaotic Wrote:  This just isn't going to end well for the countries accepting these refugees.

You know what's funny where is the brotherhood in Islam, how come the rich Arab countries aren't opening their doors ?

How come noone is calling them out ?

Why ? Because they already know what's going on, what's going to happen, and don't want these people within their borders.

Only liberal white countries can be guilted into taking in these undesirable. China, Japan, Israel, gulf countries would laugh in your face if you asked them to take these refugees. And no one would call them xenophobic or racist. It's just considered the natural order of things.

On mobile, but that photo of the "14 year old boy" running is hilarious and sad at the same time.

Well guess who wants to join in on the fun....per the Washington Post

President Obama directs administration to accept at least 10000 syrian refugees in the next fiscalyear

Quote:President Obama will accept at least 10,000 refugees from Syria in the next fiscal year, a six-fold increase over the number admitted this year, a White House spokesman said Thursday.

Press Secretary Josh Earnest said the United States will also encourage other countries in the Middle East and around the world to “ramp up” their willingness to take in Syrian refugees, including countries that typically don’t welcome asylum seekers.

In the fiscal year that ends this month, almost 1,600 Syrian refugees have arrived in the United States, according to State Department figures. The United Nations High commissioner for Refugees has submitted more than 18,000 names, but the laborious screening procedure typically takes up to two years to complete.

I know this thread is about Europe, but pertinent nonetheless. Add this on top of an already broken immigration system in the U.S.

(09-10-2015 08:02 AM)Troll King Wrote:  They also work to sponsor refugees. They don't do much in this area, but my parents have two groups of refugees at their church.

One family is Arab and speaks Arabic and I am not sure of exactly their situation. I think they are probably north African but they might have fled from Sudan even though they don't look Sudanese. I have only met them a few times.

So, recently the women in the program were raising money to help with the father/husband of this family because he needed medical care due to having problems breathing.

Well, lo and behold, it turns out that he had to have a little more than half of his right lung removed. Why? Because he had tuberculosis.

They had lived in a refugee camp in Africa for several years and that is where they think he contracted it. He put everyone in the congregation at risk, in the Episcopal church during communion everyone sips from the same cup of wine and even though they wipe it off with a cloth each time it is still gross to me, which is why I dip the wafer instead, and with something like TB is a contagion vector.

Now, the good new is that he wasn't contagious because apparently he had been treated by the red cross at the refugee camp. Or so I was told. Basically though, he didn't realize that he needed to tell anyone until it was too late.

I worked with a female manager from the UK National Health Services over 10 years ago. She told me that there had been a rise in cases of TB because of kids going to see family in South Asia and bringing it back to UK. She said they couldn’t tell the press because it would be seen as being racist. This issue was only made public a couple of years later.

Here’s some info from the US National Center for Biotechnology Information:

Tuberculosis in South Asian communities in the UK: a systematic review of the literature.

Quote:Rates of tuberculosis (TB) in UK South Asian communities are up to 17 times higher than in white British groups. Latent infection in new migrants provides only a partial explanation. We undertook a systematic review of the literature to establish existing knowledge about TB in South Asian communities.

From the UK National Health Service

Quote:Before antibiotics were introduced, TB was a major health problem in the UK. Nowadays, the condition is much less common.

However, in the last 20 years TB cases have gradually increased, particularly among ethnic minority communities who are originally from places where TB is more common.

In 2013 around 8,000 cases of TB were reported in the UK. Of these, more than 5,000 affected people who were born outside the UK.

It's estimated around one-third of the world's population is infected with latent TB. Of these, up to 10% will become active at some point.

UK immigrant screening misses most latent TB (from 2011)

Quote:British tuberculosis screening for new immigrants fails to detect most imported cases of latent disease and screening should be widened to include more people from the Indian subcontinent, scientists said on Thursday.

Britain has recently been dubbed "the tuberculosis (TB) capital of Europe" and is the only country in Western Europe with rising rates of disease.

Current British border policies require immigrants from countries with a TB incidence higher than 40 per 100,000 people to have a chest X-ray on arrival to check for active TB
…
Their results, published in The Lancet Infectious Diseases journal, showed 20 percent of recent immigrants from the Indian sub-continent and almost 30 percent from sub-Saharan Africa are carriers of latent TB.

This means the current screening policy, which excludes immigrants from the Indian subcontinent, has been missing 70 percent of imported latent TB, they said.

Greek pirates are now robbing migrants and sinking their boats.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...anean.html

EDIT: I see it's already been posted.

So, I'm getting tired of all the Swedes trying to put guilt on Finland.

Sweden says: Look back at your own history and remember who took care of 70000 Finnish refugees during WW2.

Correct. But they forgot to mention that those 70000 were only children,women and eldery people. All Finnish men that tried to escape the war and their duty got shot
There were zero mercy for traitors.
Every man that could fight had to stay and fight the Russians.

Look now at these patethic refugees. Do you see many children and women?
I don't. I see men in their prime fighting age. What a disgrace.

Here in Finland, if you would change "refugees" into "Russians" the situation would be the direct opposite.

It's hard to see any positive outcome of this.
Somehow I think that Russia will play a keyfactor or being the gamechanger in this tragic part of history.

(09-10-2015 02:21 PM)Chaos Wrote:  It's hard to see any positive outcome of this.
Somehow I think that Russia will play a keyfactor or being the gamechanger in this tragic part of history.

People around the board know that i do not have any love for the current russian goverment, but i have to agree with you in that part. Russia will play a very important part on all this play.

63% of polled Germans want tougher immigration laws.

Maybe some of these Western European countries should exit the EU and ally with Russia.

(09-10-2015 02:30 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Maybe some of these Western European countries should exit the EU and ally with Russia.

Can´t see it, still too much bad blood. But i can see some of them giving Germanistan the middle finger.

@WalterBlack

Damn. Those stats are a bit scary. From what I understand though, latent TB, which is apparently what my parents refugee father had, is not contagious. What happens, especially with anti-biotic treatment, is that the body attacks the infection and it slowly but surely basically goes inert and is no longer contagious. Similar to how many people will eventually clear HPV over time.

Now, that doesn't mean that it won't leave lasting damage. Even if those 20-30% never become contagious, then that is still a large drain in the medical system.

There is also, and I may be wrong about this, the potential for latent TB to become active again in immune suppressed people. So, down the road some of those carriers get cancer and their immune system gets shot due to chemo and they are walking around coughing contagious TB everywhere they go in the same way that the common flu or cold is spread.

With diseases like TB the problem is that even if it is treated in a timely manner, it can still fuck you up pretty good. Like I said, my parents refugee father had to have half his lung removed.

Imagine you are at the grocery store and some migrant sneezes on you. You get pissed but don't think much about it beyond that. You start having some breathing issues but chalk it up to a recurrent cold. A year later you finally go to the doctor and find out that you now basically have the lungs of a two pack a day smoker all because of some migrant.

In my post I mentioned how with a lot of the hepatitis outbreaks it is usually found, here in the US of A, that it is a guest worker or illegal immigrant that is the cause. This is due to unsanitary conditions with respect to handling food and produce in most cases.

When I was in Italy last, several years ago, I saw the African migrant pissing and shitting in the street alleys. One argument for immigration/asylum in the EU is the same one used in America. Namely, they need them to pick vegetable and do other menial labor.

In the near future Hep C might be a lot more common in the EU than it is now, again thanks to migrants from Africa and other countries that don't practice proper sanitation.

Here is an interesting video on the cultural changes in Germany due to Islam and second generation migrant citizens. It is a bit hamfisted, at least the first 15 minutes or so that I have watched so far, with the feminism v. Islamic culture narrative.

Having said that, there is quite a lot to be learned from even the lefty woman. Go to the part where she interviews students who felt the Charlie Hebdo attack was justified. In one part of the exchange with the, I guess HS students, she kept mentioning the constitution and whether or not the kids beliefs trump it.

What I thought was interesting is that after a second or two, the kid and his friend say that family, and especially the father as head of the family, is more important than the constitution. You can see the old fat bitch get a bit triggered at that moment.

It does show how these internationalist, and even far left nationalists, really do use secularism and the state as a replacement or proxy for the father with the intent of breaking up family structures.

Imagine being a German who is opposed to this shit and seeing your city filled with these bums all over the street who won't be leaving. Nightmare.

Syrian girl migrated to Australia as a child because her family was exiled by Bashar's father, Hafez. And she is absolutely not an SJW.

(09-10-2015 02:30 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Maybe some of these Western European countries should exit the EU and ally with Russia.

European counties need to ally with each other, form a Confederate States of Europe and help each other secede from the EU. The alternative is to stay in the EU and watch Germany grant millions of EU passports to anyone who looks pathetic enough.