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Valhalla 路 2015-07-13 16:12:00 路 #5826
Went out with a stunner 9/10 girl last night. Hot girls always try to throw me off. Being honest she was way out of my league.
She liked me and said there was sexual chemistry, she said how I wasn't her type at all yet she showed up on a date with me, she was intrigued, but kept saying I was too intense, she told me she wanted a nice guy to settle down and marry and that she's done the whole no label passionate intense sex thing and she's over that. She said she's nice and wants a nice guy. She's Traditional girl, she no tats, no drinking or drugs. I got her availability and we set something up then she tells me, look I don't want to waste your time I think we should be friends. She wants a nice guy and she said I'm not that person. She also said she feared that I would have sex with her and disappear. She told me a story about an alpha man who picked her up in the club then left her after a few months, she repeated how I was just like him, how I reminder her of him. At one point she said you look at me the same way he does blablbla.
I'm trying to convince her I'm not that guy and setting up a second date, and mid explanation she suddenly rushes up to me, gives me an intense kiss for about 5 seconds and abruptly runs mid kiss from inbetween my arms and into her car.
I don't even know what to do here. I could try to go for it because part of me genuinlly likes her
But my life isn't in a place where I have my life together yet for these types of women
She liked me and said there was sexual chemistry, she said how I wasn't her type at all yet she showed up on a date with me, she was intrigued, but kept saying I was too intense, she told me she wanted a nice guy to settle down and marry and that she's done the whole no label passionate intense sex thing and she's over that. She said she's nice and wants a nice guy. She's Traditional girl, she no tats, no drinking or drugs. I got her availability and we set something up then she tells me, look I don't want to waste your time I think we should be friends. She wants a nice guy and she said I'm not that person. She also said she feared that I would have sex with her and disappear. She told me a story about an alpha man who picked her up in the club then left her after a few months, she repeated how I was just like him, how I reminder her of him. At one point she said you look at me the same way he does blablbla.
I'm trying to convince her I'm not that guy and setting up a second date, and mid explanation she suddenly rushes up to me, gives me an intense kiss for about 5 seconds and abruptly runs mid kiss from inbetween my arms and into her car.
I don't even know what to do here. I could try to go for it because part of me genuinlly likes her
But my life isn't in a place where I have my life together yet for these types of women
Ingocnito 路 2015-07-13 19:50:00 路 #5827
(07-13-2015 04:12 PM)Valhalla Wrote: Went out with a stunner 9/10 girl last night. Hot girls always try to throw me off. Being honest she was way out of my league.
She liked me and said there was sexual chemistry, she said how I wasn't her type at all yet she showed up on a date with me, she was intrigued, but kept saying I was too intense, she told me she wanted a nice guy to settle down and marry and that she's done the whole no label passionate intense sex thing and she's over that. She said she's nice and wants a nice guy. She's Traditional girl, she no tats, no drinking or drugs. I got her availability and we set something up then she tells me, look I don't want to waste your time I think we should be friends. She wants a nice guy and she said I'm not that person. She also said she feared that I would have sex with her and disappear. She told me a story about an alpha man who picked her up in the club then left her after a few months, she repeated how I was just like him, how I reminder her of him. At one point she said you look at me the same way he does blablbla.
I'm trying to convince her I'm not that guy and setting up a second date, and mid explanation she suddenly rushes up to me, gives me an intense kiss for about 5 seconds and abruptly runs mid kiss from inbetween my arms and into her car.
I don't even know what to do here. I could try to go for it because part of me genuinlly likes her
But my life isn't in a place where I have my life together yet for these types of women
Other than the "Gone with the wind" kiss, and the zero partying whatsoever, I had almost exactly the same experience with a 9 a few months ago. Like you, I'm not set up to dive into anything with one of these top tier broads. She even promised me the "best blow job I'll ever have," after a night of making out and groping. It's been a while since I was on a date with a girl so good looking and she had me half hard the entire time I was around her without even touching my dick.
She stated;"You're going to try to fuck me, and if you do, this night will end and I won't speak to you again, I'm dead serious." << I believed her, like a fool I suppose, except she seemed very adamant about that. Well guess what? The next time I spoke to her a few days later she tells me; "Apparently I didn't strike you hard enough." -and- "I think we're too muck like one another for this to work." I tried texting her once, and even spoke to her briefly after that, which was futile.
Fuck me. I hate to sound cliche, and don't take this as advice, but I broke my own game rules. Did I loosen her up for the future bang? Yes. (which was likely delivered to one of her regular fucks, not me.. you're welcome pal). Did I go for the bang that night based on what she said? Nope. Still kicking myself for not fucking her. Was it a shit test and LMR wrapped up in a nice little package (her amazing pussy) that I failed in retrospect? Probably. Very fickle are the ones in the 9 range. They know their worth, and will pull hard trump cards to throw you completely off, especially when you're both sober and her hamster wears armour.
AneroidOcean 路 2015-07-13 19:50:00 路 #5828
General Mayhem 路 2015-07-13 20:08:00 路 #5829
(07-13-2015 04:12 PM)Valhalla Wrote: Went out with a stunner 9/10 girl last night. Hot girls always try to throw me off. Being honest she was way out of my league.
She liked me and said there was sexual chemistry, she said how I wasn't her type at all yet she showed up on a date with me, she was intrigued, but kept saying I was too intense, she told me she wanted a nice guy to settle down and marry and that she's done the whole no label passionate intense sex thing and she's over that. She said she's nice and wants a nice guy. She's Traditional girl, she no tats, no drinking or drugs. I got her availability and we set something up then she tells me, look I don't want to waste your time I think we should be friends. She wants a nice guy and she said I'm not that person. She also said she feared that I would have sex with her and disappear. She told me a story about an alpha man who picked her up in the club then left her after a few months, she repeated how I was just like him, how I reminder her of him. At one point she said you look at me the same way he does blablbla.
I'm trying to convince her I'm not that guy and setting up a second date, and mid explanation she suddenly rushes up to me, gives me an intense kiss for about 5 seconds and abruptly runs mid kiss from inbetween my arms and into her car.
I don't even know what to do here. I could try to go for it because part of me genuinlly likes her
But my life isn't in a place where I have my life together yet for these types of women
She will fuck you. You will be kicking yourself later if you don't go for it. Sounds like it could be a good bang.
WestIndianArchie 路 2015-07-13 20:24:00 路 #5830
(07-13-2015 04:12 PM)Valhalla Wrote: Went out with a stunner 9/10 girl last night. Hot girls always try to throw me off. Being honest she was way out of my league.
She liked me and said there was sexual chemistry, she said how I wasn't her type at all yet she showed up on a date with me, she was intrigued, but kept saying I was too intense, she told me she wanted a nice guy to settle down and marry and that she's done the whole no label passionate intense sex thing and she's over that. She said she's nice and wants a nice guy. She's Traditional girl, she no tats, no drinking or drugs. I got her availability and we set something up then she tells me, look I don't want to waste your time I think we should be friends. She wants a nice guy and she said I'm not that person. She also said she feared that I would have sex with her and disappear. She told me a story about an alpha man who picked her up in the club then left her after a few months, she repeated how I was just like him, how I reminder her of him. At one point she said you look at me the same way he does blablbla.
I'm trying to convince her I'm not that guy and setting up a second date, and mid explanation she suddenly rushes up to me, gives me an intense kiss for about 5 seconds and abruptly runs mid kiss from inbetween my arms and into her car.
I don't even know what to do here. I could try to go for it because part of me genuinlly likes her
But my life isn't in a place where I have my life together yet for these types of women
1) Never let up your game on ANY chick.
2) Don't change up the steez at a chick's request either.
Believe me dog, i've done it, and I have ALWAYS been burned for being kind. For letting a chick out of her obligations. You realize that you're the one being macked.
3) And never bargain monogamy for sex, I don't care if she's a bisexual stripper phd chef who'll find chicks for you to bang - (okay, well maybe I might make an exception there)...But she'll string you along.
You'll get the sex, but in the meantime she's milking you for the boyfriend experience. And although that might be pleasurable at first, you're putting a yoke on your back.
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A girl might want to settle down, but she wants to settle down with a guy that gives her hot sex, makes her feel sexy, and she constantly wants to suck his dick. That's the kind of guy she's happy to go to the kitchen to make a sandwich for.
When a girl starts actually being "rational" about what she needs in a long term partner, it's way after her prime.
So even though she says she wants to be rational, if she's in her prime, her hormones and past behavior patterns are going to come back. This is a momentary lull.
Keep in mind that she's been surrounded by nice guys HER ENTIRE LIFE.
Even post break up with this bad boy who swooped her up at a club and banged her out for a bit (probably a forum member) - she's still passed up on the hundreds of "nice" guys that have held doors for her, complimented her, swiped her on Tinder, messaged her on OKP.
She's lying to herself.
She's lying to herself so well, that she's convincing you with her lies.
And even as she lies, she's telling you the truth about who she really is.
When they say nice guy a girl usually means she wants an asshole that's NICE TO HER, on occasion, ideally in public, so her friends can be jealous and envious. Lotta that shit is accomplished on social media now, and lots of chicks manufacture this "great life".
*Actually* being nice to her is giving her passionate sex.
But being extra nice to her is getting her to give *you* passionate sex.
People are happy to be of service.
I find myself happy when I do a good job at work - and then I think to myself, they're paying me X and making 10X. And they'd like to pay me 0.75X the first chance that they get.
So if you manage to get the second date
- push for sex
- sex the fuck out of her
- but make her pleasure you
- when you're done, hold her, stroke her hair, but don't whisper any sweet nothings
- then tell her to get you a glass of water.
Hey baby, get me a glass of water. *follow it with a kiss*
Don't ask.
Don't say please.
Command and give her some affection.
Men are the true romantics, no matter how backwards they claim to be. So what you really need to do is dole out the sweetness, little by little.
And she's gotta be really down for you before you even think of doing something as small as putting together some furniture or changing her oil.
So recap
- she's lying to herself
- agree to what she says, but interpret it in a way that's consistent with your game
- second date, bang her out, make her pleasure you
- kiss and command
- dole out the sweetness
You really don't have to change the core of your game, but you definitely have to feed the tiger inside of that chick that wants to date a Dick/Jock/Asshole.
She'll be much happier in a position where she's making her jerk boyfriend happy, and he rewards her from time to time, but is never quite under her thumb.
WIA
DarianFrey 路 2015-07-14 14:11:00 路 #5831
Sometimes it's painful but necessary to have the veil pulled from your eyes.
Just saw the girl I've been seeing since mid-June on Tinder. I know, hypocritical of me to react since I'm on Tinder as well! But still.
It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
I should game other girls.
Just saw the girl I've been seeing since mid-June on Tinder. I know, hypocritical of me to react since I'm on Tinder as well! But still.
It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
I should game other girls.
kaotic 路 2015-07-14 15:37:00 路 #5832
(07-14-2015 02:11 PM)DarianFrey Wrote: Sometimes it's painful but necessary to have the veil pulled from your eyes.
Just saw the girl I've been seeing since mid-June on Tinder. I know, hypocritical of me to react since I'm on Tinder as well! But still.
It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
I should always game other girls.
She's your defacto GF, even if it isn't official.
Why ?
-Because I'm assuming you aren't fucking anyone else at the moment
-You spent the weekend with her in her hometown
-She spends the night at your house
-Shown her a good time when you hangout (I assume take her out and go do things etc)
If she isn't official, or the talk hasn't happened, she's probably riding the cock carousel - she's on tinder. You should expect this.
You have to be "aware" - just because she's fucking you doesn't mean she isn't fucking anyone else.
If she is AND she's your GF, it's an automatic next.
If she is AND she ISN'T your GF, then keep her just as a fuck buddy.
How old is she ? How long have you been fucking her ?
I'm pretty sure you've caught feelings for this one and you're right you NEED to pull back from this girl and keep your emotions for her in check.
If she's really hot and cool and you'll play the LTR card eventually, wait for her to do it, but clearly the signals aren't there right now.
Travesty 路 2015-07-14 15:49:00 路 #5833
(07-13-2015 08:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: I have ALWAYS been burned for being kind.
Yeah this should be number one all chicks want you to treat them like they are slightly beneath you.
The whole post should be in a book though because it outlines the little details that wrap the interaction, like a rug that ties the room together.
There is a chick I just day game then banged.
Key moments were pre-bang:
- turned her down to go to karaoke with her friends
- turned her offer down to go to her house's fourth of July party
- didn't text her after the first date where she turned down sex due to a period (she ended up texting me from being worried)
Last night she was wearing this white netty shawl thing over her tank top.
Before she left I got my laundry bag out of the closet that just looks like it and wrapped it around my shoulders saying mine looks better than hers and that girls won't leave me alone when I wear it out at night.
I gave her shit for her lack of hobbies and everything else.
I think being kind has NEVER worked for me with a girl unless she is already falling in love with me and it is clear as day.
I haven't thought of a golden saying, maybe Roissy has dropped it, the thought is something like:
"Make everything her issue, her anxiety, her social mistake. She is the awkward one, her life needs work. She is always on her heels, put pressure on her, make her feel nervous. Don't let up."
Mentavious 路 2015-07-14 18:18:00 路 #5834
Travesty and WIA bringing the heat!!
MrXY 路 2015-07-14 19:06:00 路 #5835
(07-14-2015 03:49 PM)Travesty444 Wrote: [quote='Wes turned her down to go to karaoke with her friends
I haven't thought of a golden saying, maybe Roissy has dropped it, the thought is something like:
"Make everything her issue, her anxiety, her social mistake. She is the awkward one, her life needs work. She is always on her heels, put pressure on her, make her feel nervous. Don't let up."
That's excellent. I would add "Make frequent demands of her."
Tell her where and when she needs to be, how she should dress,
How she should behave, what she should and should't do. When I do this it's amazing how often they reply "Yes, sir!" Women crave a male authority figure in their life, which most of them lack these days. They want a man to give them structure and make them feel submissive and secure.
AneroidOcean 路 2015-07-14 19:24:00 路 #5836
(07-14-2015 07:06 PM)MrXY Wrote: That's excellent. I would add "Make frequent demands of her."
Tell her where and when she needs to be, how she should dress,
How she should behave, what she should and should't do. When I do this it's amazing how often they reply "Yes, sir!" Women crave a male authority figure in their life, which most of them lack these days. They want a man to give them structure and make them feel submissive and secure.
If you can get her to call you Mr. and Sir you're doing something very right. Some of my favorite things a girl can say to me because I know she's completely into it/subservient.
Valhalla 路 2015-07-15 04:26:00 路 #5837
Update:
She's a bit old fashioned, I recall her telling me how she liked that I didn't ask her out on a date originally but simply told her. She likes aggressive/dominant men. so I sent a stern.
"Emily. I'll see you friday. wilson and lewis. 9pm"
She replied within less than an hour with .
"-_______-"
I'm thinking of ignoring this and taking a gamble, and on the day of simply sending a "I'm going to be a little late today so make it 9:15. Dress cute" hoping she does show up. Or simply calling her the day before. What do you guys think?
My date's pretty lame but the fact that she doesn't drink puts a hindrance on me. I'm thinking of maybe doing some salsa dancing then heading a late night beach picnic date with some cheese, crackers and sparkling cider. Sounds beta as fuck but I need her in a dark place away from everyone to put out. This move has worked for me very well before after drinks with just a blanket and nothing else)
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She's definitely aware of her beauty, and she's pretty smart. Her frame was pretty strong, and sometimes dominated mine. I'd disqualify her or make fun of her and several times she'd hit me with, "I love that you think you're the one that is choosing here"
It's a huge kicker that she doesn't drink at all as it'll make this whole thing a lot more difficult. Initially I didn't want to bother asking her out, my life isn't in a good place at all but I'm doing it for the experience.
As always, excellent advice.
She's a bit old fashioned, I recall her telling me how she liked that I didn't ask her out on a date originally but simply told her. She likes aggressive/dominant men. so I sent a stern.
"Emily. I'll see you friday. wilson and lewis. 9pm"
She replied within less than an hour with .
"-_______-"
I'm thinking of ignoring this and taking a gamble, and on the day of simply sending a "I'm going to be a little late today so make it 9:15. Dress cute" hoping she does show up. Or simply calling her the day before. What do you guys think?
My date's pretty lame but the fact that she doesn't drink puts a hindrance on me. I'm thinking of maybe doing some salsa dancing then heading a late night beach picnic date with some cheese, crackers and sparkling cider. Sounds beta as fuck but I need her in a dark place away from everyone to put out. This move has worked for me very well before after drinks with just a blanket and nothing else)
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(07-13-2015 07:50 PM)Ingocnito Wrote: Very fickle are the ones in the 9 range. They know their worth, and will pull hard trump cards to throw you completely off, especially when you're both sober and her hamster wears armour.
She's definitely aware of her beauty, and she's pretty smart. Her frame was pretty strong, and sometimes dominated mine. I'd disqualify her or make fun of her and several times she'd hit me with, "I love that you think you're the one that is choosing here"
It's a huge kicker that she doesn't drink at all as it'll make this whole thing a lot more difficult. Initially I didn't want to bother asking her out, my life isn't in a good place at all but I'm doing it for the experience.
(07-13-2015 08:24 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote: 1) Never let up your game on ANY chick.
2) Don't change up the steez at a chick's request either.
Believe me dog, i've done it, and I have ALWAYS been burned for being kind. For letting a chick out of her obligations. You realize that you're the one being macked.
3) And never bargain monogamy for sex, I don't care if she's a bisexual stripper phd chef who'll find chicks for you to bang - (okay, well maybe I might make an exception there)...But she'll string you along.
So recap
- she's lying to herself
- agree to what she says, but interpret it in a way that's consistent with your game
- second date, bang her out, make her pleasure you
- kiss and command
- dole out the sweetness
You really don't have to change the core of your game, but you definitely have to feed the tiger inside of that chick that wants to date a Dick/Jock/Asshole.
She'll be much happier in a position where she's making her jerk boyfriend happy, and he rewards her from time to time, but is never quite under her thumb.
WIA
As always, excellent advice.
realologist 路 2015-07-15 10:22:00 路 #5838
I don't get where many guys got the idea that drug dealers are just pounding away 8-9s every day.
Have you seen them with women. Their main girl is usually some 3/10 girl that fights in the heavyweight weight class but is only 5'2.
The reality is usually this
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![[Image: fat-girl-3409.jpg]](http://satireworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/fat-girl-3409.jpg)
Sure they may have a harem with 5+ women in them but these women are closer to a starting offensive line in the NFL compared to a Victoria's Secret Line up.
Reality
![[Image: swimwear_1689630i.jpg]](http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01689/swimwear_1689630i.jpg)
Imagined
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQdl06wFU6ApgmNhWHdm-Z...Qzl-5l6seO]](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQdl06wFU6ApgmNhWHdm-Zx41TAfHkfyeBjID3gyJQzl-5l6seO)
Have you seen them with women. Their main girl is usually some 3/10 girl that fights in the heavyweight weight class but is only 5'2.
The reality is usually this
Sure they may have a harem with 5+ women in them but these women are closer to a starting offensive line in the NFL compared to a Victoria's Secret Line up.
Reality
Imagined
MY DETROIT PLAYAS 路 2015-07-15 11:03:00 路 #5839
There goes my appetite
*boxes up lunch*
MY DETROIT PLAYAS 路 2015-07-15 11:14:00 路 #5840
...joined Tinder just to see what all the hoopla was about
Met up with a would-be prospect mid 20's, extremely disappointing
Victimized by old pics...since it was her birthday(?) we blew some trees and I trolled her about her eligible friends
Along the way, she also confirmed what we talk about here every single day. Apparently she has bad boy type that calls her names, disrespects her at every turn and fucks then leaves. Her splits time with a supplicating, designer purse buying, toe sucking chode who she only hangs w/ "for the gifts".
Guess which one she gushes about?
Told her she reminded me of a certain promiscuous female cousin of mine
She didn't take too kindly to that, nor the fact that I expressed interest in making her my new smoke connect.
The nerve...
Met up with a would-be prospect mid 20's, extremely disappointing
Victimized by old pics...since it was her birthday(?) we blew some trees and I trolled her about her eligible friends
Along the way, she also confirmed what we talk about here every single day. Apparently she has bad boy type that calls her names, disrespects her at every turn and fucks then leaves. Her splits time with a supplicating, designer purse buying, toe sucking chode who she only hangs w/ "for the gifts".
Guess which one she gushes about?
Told her she reminded me of a certain promiscuous female cousin of mine
She didn't take too kindly to that, nor the fact that I expressed interest in making her my new smoke connect.
The nerve...
Rawthentic 路 2015-07-15 13:06:00 路 #5841
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She's definitely aware of her beauty, and she's pretty smart. Her frame was pretty strong, and sometimes dominated mine. I'd disqualify her or make fun of her and several times she'd hit me with, "I love that you think you're the one that is choosing here"
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You created this issue yourself by choosing to "neg" her.
She saw right through your game and it will be difficult, but not impossible to re-establish yourself here.
The key to your upcoming interactions is being able to reframe yourself and deliver value that will lead the interaction forward towards your desired outcome.
She's definitely aware of her beauty, and she's pretty smart. Her frame was pretty strong, and sometimes dominated mine. I'd disqualify her or make fun of her and several times she'd hit me with, "I love that you think you're the one that is choosing here"
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You created this issue yourself by choosing to "neg" her.
She saw right through your game and it will be difficult, but not impossible to re-establish yourself here.
The key to your upcoming interactions is being able to reframe yourself and deliver value that will lead the interaction forward towards your desired outcome.
For the past hour this chick is texting me I should come over and bang her. Allthough I like banging her I don't feel like driving for 45 minutes (she lives near where I work) and I feel like she's the one that has too give in.
This shit is really testing me right now because she's a horny little wild bitch in the sack. Keep telling myself "I'm the prize! I'm the prize! I'm the pr.." This abundace mentality is one helluva pill to swallow..
This shit is really testing me right now because she's a horny little wild bitch in the sack. Keep telling myself "I'm the prize! I'm the prize! I'm the pr.." This abundace mentality is one helluva pill to swallow..
Dalaran1991 路 2015-07-15 14:12:00 路 #5843
(07-14-2015 02:11 PM)DarianFrey Wrote: It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
I should game other girls.
I too have realized the hard way that this doesnt guarantee shit these days. Everyone keeps saying fuck her like a champ and she will be putty in your hand. Sure she is, but being putty in your hand and riding other cock aren't mutually exclusive. Actually, the crazier a girl is about you, the more chances she will fuck someone else. My mentor said that to me before and though Ive learned its the truth I still have no fucking idea why....
Quote:This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
Maybe you need a shift in mentality? Slowly and subtle first. Dont let yourself catch feeling for her.
Travesty 路 2015-07-15 14:18:00 路 #5844
realologist 路 2015-07-15 17:26:00 路 #5845
(07-15-2015 02:18 PM)Travesty Wrote:(07-15-2015 10:22 AM)realologist Wrote: ...
Drug dealers that are usually middle or upper class kids that do it for spare money, drug supply, or thrill at known universities as students or that hang out in clubs in big cities are the ones that have access to hot chicks.
I was speaking about the average drug dealer which I've had the chance to know a lot of. Most drug dealers don't fit that mold you spoke of at least where I live. Most of them are low class.
The middle and upper class ones are mostly customers where I live.
Ingocnito 路 2015-07-15 19:54:00 路 #5846
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Ingocnito 路 2015-07-15 20:10:00 路 #5847
(07-15-2015 02:12 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:(07-14-2015 02:11 PM)DarianFrey Wrote: It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
I should game other girls.
I too have realized the hard way that this doesnt guarantee shit these days. Everyone keeps saying fuck her like a champ and she will be putty in your hand. Sure she is, but being putty in your hand and riding other cock aren't mutually exclusive. Actually, the crazier a girl is about you, the more chances she will fuck someone else. My mentor said that to me before and though Ive learned its the truth I still have no fucking idea why....
Quote:This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
Maybe you need a shift in mentality? Slowly and subtle first. Dont let yourself catch feeling for her.
Yea, the whole "hypergamy" argument (starting/stopping relationships to cock bounce) versus straight up sluttiness is slowly vanishing for me, or as the SMP gets even sleazier.
Ingocnito 路 2015-07-15 20:16:00 路 #5848
(07-15-2015 07:54 PM)Ingocnito Wrote:(07-14-2015 02:11 PM)DarianFrey Wrote: Sometimes it's painful but necessary to have the veil pulled from your eyes.
Just saw the girl I've been seeing since mid-June on Tinder. I know, hypocritical of me to react since I'm on Tinder as well! But still.
It shook me harder than I'd like since I like her and see her as a potential LTR. I know I've banged her like a champ and showed her a good time when we've seen each other, and we're acting like we're more than FBs (haven't had the 'talk'). I spent a weekend with her in her town and she spent a night here this weekend.
This makes me want to pull back. Truly, most girls really are 'like that'. She's staying at my place next weekend.
I should game other girls.
Even if the "talk" happens, from online girls I've noticed a new pattern emerge in "the talk." Let's call it the "Sort of talk." 3 different girls in past 9 months off dating sites I'd been banging 1-3 months said something similar to this:
"I know you said you weren't looking for anything serious and your life isn't in a position to have all that, but if you're fucking other women, I want us to use a condom, just in case.. OK?"
Then if you go on banging them without a condom, they assume she is your only girl, expecting the usual compliance 90% of guys give in to, but she sure as hell has gone on banging at least one other dude. Maybe you fucked her the most, and best during that period, but as soon as her behavior patterns in texting change over a period of 2-3 days, know she's loosened up because of the other guy(s).
I even had one this past week say outright "You're the only guy I'm fucking or want to." Since I have a child, I can only see her every other weekend and scattered weekdays, but we've never gotten together on a Sunday or Monday night.. typically to start the work week off stable and get chores done.
So in light of considering her for potentially something mid-term, maybe long-term if all goes well, I set my alarm for 4:15am - figuring it's after bar time and 2 hours before she wakes up for work early Tuesday AM, to drive by her place (she lives only 2 miles from me) and see what was up when her daily texting habits seemed to change the previous days/nights. Yup, car gone, spending the night elsewhere. I just haven't, don't, and never will believe shit a woman says anymore. They all do this.
As a man who sticks to his laurels, she permanently earned herself a place in the "fuck buddies, that hang out now and then," category. She doesn't need to know this, but that's her new lower level, for good.
Her going out of her way to state "You're the only one I fuck or want to fuck," perfectly translates in to;"Good sucker, now I've got you locked down tighter, back to my other dick I put on hold to ensnare you."
One of the greatest tells I'll mention again, is ANYTHING a girl makes a clear point to tell you about herself in the first few months, 90% chance you can reverse precisely that, and you've got the truth. Like a script writer writing a movie screen play, this is her form of "planting."
Travesty 路 2015-07-15 20:41:00 路 #5849
(07-15-2015 05:26 PM)realologist Wrote: ...
If you get into a rich trustfund social clique or go to a college with rich kids you will meet a middle class hustler kid or trustfund guy that loves buying large amounts of drugs and his drug dealing/bartering is his "in" with the group.
These drug dealers have loads of upper and upper middle class party girls around them.
$ and hot chicks are one in the same.
robreke 路 2015-07-15 23:27:00 路 #5850
I've had two dates the last two nights so a quick update. Actually, neither one resulted in a bang, but things aren't all that bad.
Last night...it was a black girl with cute features and tall slim body. She had nice legs and straight black hair. It was the second date in a few weeks. The first time we did a good make out and shirts came off. Titties got sucked, etc.
Last night, when I went to pull the shirt off she gave resistance despite the good pre make out. She said "I don't think we should do that yet."
Me "well whatever you're comfortable with. why do you think that"
Her: " we should get to know each other more...I mean....you don't even know my last name do you? (I paused and said nothing) Well, what is my last name?"
Me: "I don't know you haven't told me" Then, I changed the subject and said "that's fine, I can take you back now if you're ready" ( The whole time I was praying she wouldn't ask me if I knew what her FIRST name was. Because, I honestly don't even remember that...I think it's something like Dana. I knew I would be so embarrassed if she asked me that. Thank God she didn't ask
After I dropped her off she texted something like " I had fun tonight I look forward to seeing you again" I just texted "Me too"
I don't think I'll be calling her again.
Date tonight: Online hookup. She looks kind of like snow white except with auburn hair. Nice green eyes, silky white skin, red lips, 5'8 and 24. She was dressed to the nines in heels and a classy white sequins dress.
We started drinking and getting to know each other at a restaurant. I teased her about being an accountant and I hope she didn't have a boring, vanilla personality. She took it with good humor. She was smart and capable of pretty high end conversation. I'm thinking 'I may experiment with her and try 'long game' meaning not go for the bang tonight and just really get to know her , tease her and see if I can get multiple dates longer term as my success on seeing girls again after first night bangs has been on/off due to slut regret so far this year.'
Several times when we talked about activities that neither of us had done, she'd say 'We need to do that' or ' We should see that movie'
We were having a conversation about the power of persuasion and she says ( we're on drink 2 at this point) : "Can I persuade you to take me to dinner soon?"
I agreed.
When I dropped her off at her car she says " Can I get a kiss?" I'm like, "absolutely". This girl made it easy. Well, for the kiss and second date at least. Saturday night is dinner.
Didn't get the bang yet, but still had a good time connecting with a cute feminine girl with a future date set. Many attractive girls these days make it difficult.
Every once in a while, a few make it easy.
Last night...it was a black girl with cute features and tall slim body. She had nice legs and straight black hair. It was the second date in a few weeks. The first time we did a good make out and shirts came off. Titties got sucked, etc.
Last night, when I went to pull the shirt off she gave resistance despite the good pre make out. She said "I don't think we should do that yet."
Me "well whatever you're comfortable with. why do you think that"
Her: " we should get to know each other more...I mean....you don't even know my last name do you? (I paused and said nothing) Well, what is my last name?"
Me: "I don't know you haven't told me" Then, I changed the subject and said "that's fine, I can take you back now if you're ready" ( The whole time I was praying she wouldn't ask me if I knew what her FIRST name was. Because, I honestly don't even remember that...I think it's something like Dana. I knew I would be so embarrassed if she asked me that. Thank God she didn't ask
After I dropped her off she texted something like " I had fun tonight I look forward to seeing you again" I just texted "Me too"
I don't think I'll be calling her again.
Date tonight: Online hookup. She looks kind of like snow white except with auburn hair. Nice green eyes, silky white skin, red lips, 5'8 and 24. She was dressed to the nines in heels and a classy white sequins dress.
We started drinking and getting to know each other at a restaurant. I teased her about being an accountant and I hope she didn't have a boring, vanilla personality. She took it with good humor. She was smart and capable of pretty high end conversation. I'm thinking 'I may experiment with her and try 'long game' meaning not go for the bang tonight and just really get to know her , tease her and see if I can get multiple dates longer term as my success on seeing girls again after first night bangs has been on/off due to slut regret so far this year.'
Several times when we talked about activities that neither of us had done, she'd say 'We need to do that' or ' We should see that movie'
We were having a conversation about the power of persuasion and she says ( we're on drink 2 at this point) : "Can I persuade you to take me to dinner soon?"
I agreed.
When I dropped her off at her car she says " Can I get a kiss?" I'm like, "absolutely". This girl made it easy. Well, for the kiss and second date at least. Saturday night is dinner.
Didn't get the bang yet, but still had a good time connecting with a cute feminine girl with a future date set. Many attractive girls these days make it difficult.
Every once in a while, a few make it easy.