Visiting my folks for the weekend and went out to a local thai place for dinner.
My folks are regulars there so when our waitress comes over my dad greets her by name. She is this cute bubbly 19 year old filo girl and the best talent I've seen in this town since my parents moved there.
My dad introduces me and she gives me eyes. I flirt with her all night for the fun of it but staying at my folks I've got no logistics to pull her. Such a shame as I'd have loved to smash.

Every time I come back from an awesome time with my new beautiful and feminine girlfriend, I remind myself of the pleasure I would have missed had I not approached her. And I approach her in one of the less conventional place: the metro.

Im not a pro here, but if theres something I can say with certainty to anyone: never miss an approach that you would love to make. You never know if she would be a great match for you.

(06-07-2015 02:28 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Every time I come back from an awesome time with my new beautiful and feminine girlfriend, I remind myself of the pleasure I would have missed had I not approached her. And I approach her in one of the less conventional place: the metro.

Im not a pro here, but if theres something I can say with certainty to anyone: never miss an approach that you would love to make. You never know if she would be a great match for you.

Same deal mate. Some of the best looking women I've met or banged have been due to passing them on a street and doing a double take. Mind is telling me: "She's out of your league." and I start talking to her about the nearest pet shop.

Male sexual value is less based on your looks than you think it is. Being natural and confident goes leagues further.

Got a little buzzed at a bar and slept with a wealthy older cougar(maybe married) that was double my age. She was quite attractive for her age but I didn't particularly enjoy it. I feel quite disgusted with myself now in hindsight.

i could smell the old on her, she smelled like old people.

It's no wonder men don't like older women.

She's incredibly attracted to me and has been texting a lot.

Why can't women my age have such a fondness for me?

god damn I feel like a cunty chick with a laundry list of demands but being late, asking me to do something with nothing in return, being broke, and making me wait are automatic deal breakers.

went out with this hot ass ghanian chick last night with her hot ass friends. I was tired as fuck and it went as well as it could have gone

she leaves her ID in my car. I text her that she did. she's a 20 min walk away.

10 missed called 20 texts saying how much she needs it. she demands I drive halfway across town to her friends house to drop it off because she needs it for work/finding a job.

tell her I can drive to her place and thats it. still doesnt get it (her english isnt great ormaybe shes just dumb). still asking me to come across town to drop it off. Finally just texted her my address and told her I was drinking and couldnt drive.

So after getting dumped in a rather dramatic fashion two and a half months ago, I've taken my game to another level. Before I got with my ex last October I was really starting to understand game but after getting dumped first few weekends were rough but since I have pulled every weekend for the past 7 weekends, with six of them being fuck closes and one being a BJ in parking garage in Vegas while on vacation, if I had a car it would be a full pull. The quality of the girls I'm pulling now have taken a notch up, the amount of fucks I give is nill.

To wrighter, I don't live in Atlanta but I've tried some campus game and the girls will give you their numbers but a lot of them are really flakey. The cheerleader chick I met at a EDM concert and party, she just happened to goto the same college I goto.

Well my cousin's pulling the trigger.

He's negotiated a ring and is proposing next month.

.....to a feminists type lawyer, I'd say 7 body, 6 face.

They haven't lived together, been together for a few years, and plan on getting married early next year.

I always troll her on my cousins page at least she has a dark/dry sense of humor like me.

I really have a bad feeling about this chick, but he's going to do what he wants.

My cousin's a good dude, he also loves lifting and we talk about that shit all the time. He also is fucking hilarious just like his old man - he sees the idiocy of SJW's and thinks independently like me.

I hope he's truly happy and doesn't get fucked over

I seriously think I've lost all hope for marriage, maybe it's because I've fucked too many women, realized so much about them, and being more aware than the average Joe.

My buddy plans to marry his LDR soon, despite all the resistance and red flags she's given. He's flipping the bill for plane tickets and the ring. He has a lot of potential to be big in the tech industry but he's not as focused as he could be.

This is one of those situations where you can't do much but watch and hope it plays out well...when most times you have a pretty good idea of how it'll end.

I found a good response to a shit test... When you ask to meet up with a girl and she responds "how do I know you're not a serial killer?"

I responded "I am. You just don't fit the type of girl I kill "

So I was in Hong Kong last week for a short vacation and met a cute, blonde Polish chick at Big Buddha. I made the excuse of asking her to take a photo to start dialogue. From there, we decide to walk and talk together while at the Big Buddha and even rode back to the metro together. She invites me to Macau and I go with her on Sunday where we have a great time and as the evening winds down and we are drinking wine at a park like area, I find out she is seeing someone and that we weren't "on a date"...

I find that even though I can be very aggressive, I have to be more direct about my intentions when doing approaches. Especially with European women. I have found in my short time living in the Netherlands, that women will sometimes indulge you and give out there number even if they have a boyfriend. But the funny thing is, they will not mention that until the last moment. This has taken me a while to adjust to since I am used to American women. As a black man that has spent a lot of time in the South, I find that most American women will instantly shut me down if she is either not interested or is seeing someone. So any conversation that goes beyond 'hello' or 'number exchange' usually means she is into me. European women, not so much. A number of times, I have hit on and number closed Dutch women just to find out they had boyfriends. Same goes with some other European women.

Back to the Polish girl in HK. I did enjoy my time with her but I realized that there were many things I could have done better. The biggest thing was being more direct when I number closed her. I should have said I was interested in a date. She even mentioned to me that I never brought up our availability (although I assume she knew I was flirting with her and she was just waiting to see if she would stray or not).

A lesson in game: I take most of my encounters with women as a learning experience. I try to reflect what I did right or wrong. From the aforementioned encounter, I was right to approach her and build interest while there at the Big Buddha. However, I should have been more direct and mentioned that I wanted to go on a date. This at least gives her an idea of my intentions. So even though she had a boyfriend, she could have then decided whether she was willing to meet me while even knowing my intentions. I believe I read somewhere on here that I have to balance comfort and interest when approaching women. Lesson learned.

At my gym, this fine brunette Crossfit-type chick started working out. She wouldn't talk to anyone, and just seemed super-focused on her workouts. All the guys would stare at her but nobody talked to her.

The other day I decided fuck it, opened her with some Day Bang chat. She was surprisingly talkative and friendly, and asked me a few questions too. She mostly talked about herself though. In fact I know practically her life story now. I ejected after a 5-8 minute convo.

Today I saw her coming into the gym and I said "hey Miss 4.0" (she had mentioned she has a 4.0 GPA in school when we met. I told her, nice humble brag).

She immediately went into a rant about how angry she is because she got held up at the car mechanic, they took forever with her car, then they didn't put the tires on right blah blah blah I wanted to shoot myself because her convo was so boring and all about her woes. I tried to lighten the mood but she was boring to talk to and seemed to just want to vent.

As we walked in the gym together I immediately was distracted by a cute Latina girl I hadn't seen in forever. She embraced me warmly and I could feel the sensual vibes from her. Total 180 from the woe-is-me chick. The Crossfit girl and I parted ways.

I ended up working out next to her in the squat rack. I ignored her and focused on my workout and she did the same.

Thing is, she is very attractive and I'd love to bang her. But if she's just a fucking drag to talk with I don't know if I can/want to force it to happen.

I need to grab control of the convo and not let her talk about boring shit. Shut it down and change the subject. Work in progress.

Easy just ask her different questions. There's a saying that he who asks the questions controls the conversation.

(06-08-2015 10:51 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  At my gym, this fine brunette Crossfit-type chick started working out. She wouldn't talk to anyone, and just seemed super-focused on her workouts. All the guys would stare at her but nobody talked to her.

The other day I decided fuck it, opened her with some Day Bang chat. She was surprisingly talkative and friendly, and asked me a few questions too. She mostly talked about herself though. In fact I know practically her life story now. I ejected after a 5-8 minute convo.

Today I saw her coming into the gym and I said "hey Miss 4.0" (she had mentioned she has a 4.0 GPA in school when we met. I told her, nice humble brag).

She immediately went into a rant about how angry she is because she got held up at the car mechanic, they took forever with her car, then they didn't put the tires on right blah blah blah I wanted to shoot myself because her convo was so boring and all about her woes. I tried to lighten the mood but she was boring to talk to and seemed to just want to vent.

As we walked in the gym together I immediately was distracted by a cute Latina girl I hadn't seen in forever. She embraced me warmly and I could feel the sensual vibes from her. Total 180 from the woe-is-me chick. The Crossfit girl and I parted ways.

I ended up working out next to her in the squat rack. I ignored her and focused on my workout and she did the same.

Thing is, she is very attractive and I'd love to bang her. But if she's just a fucking drag to talk with I don't know if I can/want to force it to happen.

I need to grab control of the convo and not let her talk about boring shit. Shut it down and change the subject. Work in progress.

I guess in PUA terms this would be called "negging", but mention the fact that she has nothing good going then segue-way into a talk about what she does for fun. Odds are it will be some kind of outdoors deal that you somehow or another are involved with as well(wink wink nudge nudge bring wine and some sandwiches).

If she says she's a gym rat and enjoys reading/coffee after a workout(if she's Mrs. Smart 4.0 she probably wants to seem intelligent) take her out to a local coffee shop that happens to serve your favorite Irish coffee(Guinness mixed with coffee quite delicious) or order the Italian Cream Soda(vanilla flavored is always good) if she likes tea and how you like to mix a bit of vodka or gin in(which is conveniently in the flask you brought). Other way this could go would be to an indie art scene make sure it's BYOB.

The last way this could go if she is a wine or craft beer fanatic and you can take her out to an appropriate place for that. Think I covered the "hobbies" of the modern woman fairly well. Unless of course it's Netflix then you might just have to watch that new documentary/movie at your place

(06-08-2015 11:30 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Easy just ask her different questions. There's a saying that he who asks the questions controls the conversation.

Disagree. Asking questions is what every guy does when they have nothing to talk about. If all else fails assume something about where she's from or mention something unique she's wearing that you happened to have saw in X place or it's meaning(where X is a far away place).

The only time you should ask questions is when you're opening her, setting up a date, it's rhetorical, or she can answer in a few predetermined ways. I'm guilty of this myself and it rarely helps the conversation. I would avoid it like the plague with someone you've opened or gotten a number from.

Quote:Disagree. Asking questions is what every guy does when they have nothing to talk about. If all else fails assume something about where she's from or mention something unique she's wearing that you happened to have saw in X place or it's meaning(where X is a far away place).

The only time you should ask questions is when you're opening her, setting up a date, it's rhetorical, or she can answer in a few predetermined ways. I'm guilty of this myself and it rarely helps the conversation. I would avoid it like the plague with someone you've opened or gotten a number from.

You are both right in some aspects.

You can kill an interaction pretty quickly if your firing off 21 questions. It can be like trying to draw blood out of a stone. Do you like *****? Is that your *****?

Don't ask closed questions if your are going to ask something and want a proper answer.

How/What/When/Where/Who/Why.

In saying that however, it isn't an interview. Your trying to excite her, turn her on so you can bang her not vet her for a position in HR.

Sure you can ask questions, but they have to be the right kind. I've led many conversations by asking the right kind, taking it sexual, hitting her with a 'favourite position' question or something and then using her answer to go dirtier or continue to build the tension or whatever. Then I'll ask another question, get her answer and then spin off that for a bit.

Ask some questions, ask interesting questions, ask sexual questions. Duck in and duck out. Use it don't abuse it.

Forgetting the part where I said "can only answer in a few predetermined ways". Those are acceptable questions as you know possible responses that will lead to escalation.

(06-08-2015 11:43 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(06-08-2015 11:30 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Easy just ask her different questions. There's a saying that he who asks the questions controls the conversation.

Disagree. Asking questions is what every guy does when they have nothing to talk about. If all else fails assume something about where she's from or mention something unique she's wearing that you happened to have saw in X place or it's meaning(where X is a far away place).

The only time you should ask questions is when you're opening her, setting up a date, it's rhetorical, or she can answer in a few predetermined ways. I'm guilty of this myself and it rarely helps the conversation. I would avoid it like the plague with someone you've opened or gotten a number from.

I'm not saying for him to turn into the boring interview guy who asks inane questions like "what's your favorite color?". However if this girl is rambling on about something that's not helping the interaction it's the OP's job to steer the conversation in the direction that will help him get a date, escalate and so on and the quickest way to do that is to ask a different question. Questions should only be used as jumping off points to allow him to tease, flirt and push-pull. You're right though, cold reads can even be better than questions but I still struggle with those at times depending on the girl and vibe.

(06-08-2015 10:51 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  I need to grab control of the convo and not let her talk about boring shit.

She is talking about herself. It may be boring to you but it certainly isn't boring to her.

Personally, I would just let her talk. Especially, if its your first time talking to her.

When a woman talks and shares information about herself:

A: She often feels an emotional connection towards the listener
B: She reveals valuable information about her life, likes, interests, attitude, etc.

This allows you to build trust and comfort while at the same time gives you data with which you can build from and use to stimulate future conversations.

Don't be in a rush to talk. Be a good listener. Let her express herself emotionally. Take notes.

Instead of rambling ourselves, its often better to let the girl ramble.

Just a thought..

As always, solid point Gio.

Let me ask you something though. At what point do you draw the line at her sharing info about herself, vs a narcissistic girl that just likes to talk about herself?

We've all been in conversations with clueless men who drone on and on about themselves. You feel like a passive passenger on a ride.

My hesitation comes from not wanting to be used as a pin cushion for her complaints/negativity.

(06-09-2015 01:12 PM)Checkmat Wrote:  As always, solid point Gio.

Let me ask you something though. At what point do you draw the line at her sharing info about herself, vs a narcissistic girl that just likes to talk about herself?

We've all been in conversations with clueless men who drone on and on about themselves. You feel like a passive passenger on a ride.

My hesitation comes from not wanting to be used as a pin cushion for her complaints/negativity.

You asked the same question I was thinking. On one hand it's good to get a woman to talk about herself but on the other I don't want to be the emotional tampon.

Came within the the cloth of a thong of getting another notch on my lunch break today. Matched with a really gorgeous black 32yo milf from OKC. Body was very thick, many here would consider her a SIF but her photos accurately represented her so I had no complaints. We were going to meet for coffee but then her schedule had to be pushed later and I suggested that I get coffee and we meet at my apartment in the covered seating area since it's just like a resort

She showed up wearing a long skirt and knee high boots and she was way bigger than I normally go for but for some reason she really had me turned on We sat outside and drank our coffee for a few minutes but the weather here in SoCal is really hot and muggy so we went in the club house and continued talking. Then other people came in so I got up and said "come on, let's go" and led her up to my apartment. We sat on the couch and continued talking for a few minutes and I went for the kiss. She would stop me every time I would move to a new area but then after backing off I was able to move further. Finally she playfully said she had to go back to work for a meeting so I followed her to the kitchen and we began making out while standing up. I really really wanted to fuck her bent over my kitchen counter and was able to turn her around and pull her skirt up and then she would push me away with the "you're horrible!! I'm leaving now" but she continued to stay. So I would go in again and finally the third time I was rubbing my cock against her pussy and sort of doing the "cloth condom" but she wouldn't let me go further. After that she left and I walked her downstairs.

I know if we had a little more time I would have gotten the notch for sure. Who knows if I'll get another chance but I'm now focusing on my date tonight with a tight little Asian spinner.

Quote: Forgetting the part where I said "can only answer in a few predetermined ways". Those are acceptable questions as you know possible responses that will lead to escalation.

My bad, hwuzhere.

Was on point tonight. A handful of giggly 8s about. Was in a super good mood, had no problem projecting positive vibes all around. Made arrangements with a feminine 8. Not even dressed nice, just "had it".

From now on, before I even get a girl's number, I'm going to see how busy they are. The past few numbers have been pretty stale, the girls ended up super busy, and I lost interest in trying to fish them out. Maybe it's the summer, but the hotties are digging my vibes more than the usual 5's and 6's.

I love those moments when game becomes totally natural. No forcing, no real struggling, you're just toying with the girl and she responds just how you like it. She looks out for you, displays huge signs of interest and expresses nervousness. It's rare these days. You want to push back on them just to watch them fulfil your desire to come to you, to ask you questions, to pout when they think you're going to disappear. You have no fear, because they fold to you, bend to your will, and it all becomes a slow act of foreplay that you control the throttle on.

Those tidbits of femininity, these little things, make it all worth it.

This is turning out to be a great summer so far. New job lined up, which will unfortunately stick me back in the 8-5pm grind, while running a small rep company I opened 5 months ago which is gaining traction. So super busy soon.

I've got a spindle of 3 girls I can fuck at will when our schedules line up, a 4th and a 5th who are 6ish I can add to the harem, that I set aside but keep as last resorts. Overall harem ranges from 6s-7.5s.

I've got young 7s-8s showing more IOIs than ever. 1 in the platter tries to pipe-line me her friends and is down for 3-somes, but my prize is a solid 8.5, 9 by some standards whose just smokin sexy. Has a badass condo that's decked out. Haven't banged yet, but she descriptively told me how she'll be sucking my cock next time we meet... is down for 3-somes as well, and her friends are smoke shows too.

She seems to be taking the slow build with me gearing up for a potential relationship with I suspect.. or so she implies. There'll be some maintenance but I like the way her presence is keepin my game on point thus far.

To add to that I've got 3 other girls that want to go on dates that I simply don't have time for. Years of work, and truly not giving a fuck with abundance mentality are paying off fortuitously in 2015.

(06-07-2015 03:08 PM)hwuzhere Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:28 PM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Every time I come back from an awesome time with my new beautiful and feminine girlfriend, I remind myself of the pleasure I would have missed had I not approached her. And I approach her in one of the less conventional place: the metro.

Im not a pro here, but if theres something I can say with certainty to anyone: never miss an approach that you would love to make. You never know if she would be a great match for you.

Same deal mate. Some of the best looking women I've met or banged have been due to passing them on a street and doing a double take. Mind is telling me: "She's out of your league." and I start talking to her about the nearest pet shop.

Male sexual value is less based on your looks than you think it is. Being natural and confident goes leagues further.

Doubly agree. Literally half the women I've been with this year say my personality is totally what won them over, sure they say I'm sexy whatever, but looks isn't what's getting it. It's personable disarming vibes, confidence and interesting conversation that's my hook.