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Focused Group research into Cameras to prevent False Allegation: Attributes Features

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/thread-54806.html

Existing threads are less focused on finding and locking down parameters and devices.

Let this be a little WireCutter for the Man in MeToo era.

Instead of getting distracted by the stories.. lets make this like a Mini Wiki of sorts; geared towards devices.

Home/ Bedroom cams are easy if you always end up at home.

But quite a many may or choose to go back to hers, or are traveling as a Nomad so a home surveillance system / camera etc.

The categories of interest & attributes that I was thinking/ brainstorming of that would be the ONE STOP item to have:

- Body Cams - Could Show full activity from pre Sex from Venue to Home
- Dash Cams - Can be multi purpose and travel well with you on the road.. and be useful when you want to go to a hotel room with someone
- Fixed / wired/ wireless Cams - Good for permanent base/ closing location. Not so much if at others home or hotel etc.

- Recording
.. Trigger - Manual or Automated (Motion Sensing or keyword)

- Storage of Video
.. Local storage WITHIN unit (limits)
.. LAN storage
.. Cloud Storage

Could we find/ choose a good balance of features,

- good portability,
- easy/ quick set up .. even at new venues
- seamless hidden integration
- recording activation
- storage / backup etc.

Post: #2

Don't forget the legal aspects of different approaches.

Post: #3

(10-06-2018 05:59 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Don't forget the legal aspects of different approaches.

Good point. In my state (and probably many others) signage is a huge issue. A simple sign "This property is protected by Audio/Visual surveillance" turn an illegal recording into a legal one. Everyone thinks of it as protecting against burglars, nobody thinks of it as sotpping the woman bent on burgling you of your freedom. It turns an illegal secret sex tape into legal "home security footage" overnight.

Post: #4

Please use the existing thread

Post: #5

(10-06-2018 05:59 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Don't forget the legal aspects of different approaches.

Yes. But in the goal of choosing a camera, I'd like to focus on comparative experiences and Pros and Cons of it.

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How about a belt cam? A little tiny device on the front belt buckle that takes in a birds eye 180 degree view from top to bottom, right to left. If you end up at hers, you can always orient the belt buckle towards her bed while she’s in the bathroom “getting ready”.

Just thinking outloud here. I know of no such device or anything on the market similar to this.

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Speaking hypothetically something doesn't have to be legally admissible in court to be a useful defence.

Letting the accuser know that you have footage might be enough to head-fake them into withdrawing. Notifying her through an intermediary that she might end up on Pornhub almost certainly will do the trick, particularly if her claim is false and leads to her being outed in the court of public opinion.

Post: #8

Please use the existing threads.

Cameras:
/thread-49377...ght=camera

Dodged a False Rape accusation due to my recordings:
/thread-54806...accusation

Discussion of false rape accusations
/thread-45562...accusation

Post: #9

(10-07-2018 08:15 AM)Hypno Wrote:  Please use the existing threads.

Cameras:
/thread-49377...ght=camera

Dodged a False Rape accusation due to my recordings:
/thread-54806...accusation

Discussion of false rape accusations
/thread-45562...accusation

I went through all the THREADS. Even that camera thread has gone SERIOUSLY OFF TOPIC. Stories, Legalities etc etc.

We ought to have a Short List/ Tech Comparison of Cams that work well for Men.. in various scenarios I mentioned above. We have Zilch.

Lets keep this thread to be that PLACE for Tech/ Camera details only.

Post: #10

I just found another Category of Cameras:

Trail / Jungle Cams - Seem to be tougher and better for off the Grid escapades - So can work anywhere. I am sure there's Pros and Cons.

Post: #11

I would strongly suggest that legalities is very much on topic

Post: #12

I'll just say what I said in the other thread: if you screw up videotaping a sex act without consent or unintentionally turn over evidence of other recordings, your problems are liable to get worse, not better.

Audio recording, if your jurisdiction permits allows it, is on the up-and-up. I just turn on the Android recorder widget in nearly all questionable situations and just leave it running, and have used it in court. Fantasists rarely make small changes. The stories are dramatic. Once someone has committed to a bogus version of events, you break that out and demonstrate that it was nothing like what they described and their testimony is radioactive scrap.

Post: #13

(10-10-2018 02:54 PM)Hypno Wrote:  I would strongly suggest that legalities is very much on topic

Yes. But why DONT WE SEPARATE the two. The MIX just loses focus.

1. Technical/ Technology setup - Focused on Product Capabilities Pros/ Cons/ Pricing/ Sizing/ Portability/ Storage abilities etc
2. Legality, Laws, Constraints etc. (Vary hugely from State to Country etc)

The previous thread ended up in a Mixed state where I dont have a clear set of products to get.

Post: #14

Well while this is still active. No matter what we do, women will be able to give false accusations. The main reason is because no matter how much proof we have the women can say she was out of her mind. This can include drunk, high, depressed, stressed, threatened, or manipulated. Even signing a consent form or being recorded can be justified as her saying "He drugged me" or "I was drunk".

Then worse yet, if you do record her without her permission it not only makes you seem more like a rapist (sadly) but now she can say you recorded her without her consent.

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(12-14-2018 09:09 AM)Donfitz007 Wrote:  Well while this is still active. No matter what we do, women will be able to give false accusations. The main reason is because no matter how much proof we have the women can say she was out of her mind. This can include drunk, high, depressed, stressed, threatened, or manipulated. Even signing a consent form or being recorded can be justified as her saying "He drugged me" or "I was drunk".

Then worse yet, if you do record her without her permission it not only makes you seem more like a rapist (sadly) but now she can say you recorded her without her consent.

Yes, but given all the scenarios, why not help people figure out the Devices they can AVAIL.

Usage / legality / procedure is different from the Technical details of equipment.

Its the equivalent of discussing "which bluetooth headset I want" vs "legalities of using it as per local laws" in State, Country or whatever.

Also a lot of this drama is less in Non US/ UK countries. Having video/ audio proof will just PREVENT the female from her "I want to leverage my FURY" thought/ mindset.

Having VIDEO EVIDENCE and not using it is better than having NONE AT ALL.

So lets focus on discussing TECHNICAL SETUPS

Post: #16

(10-10-2018 06:33 PM)Jetset Wrote:  I'll just say what I said in the other thread: if you screw up videotaping a sex act without consent or unintentionally turn over evidence of other recordings, your problems are liable to get worse, not better.

Audio recording, if your jurisdiction permits allows it, is on the up-and-up. I just turn on the Android recorder widget in nearly all questionable situations and just leave it running, and have used it in court. Fantasists rarely make small changes. The stories are dramatic. Once someone has committed to a bogus version of events, you break that out and demonstrate that it was nothing like what they described and their testimony is radioactive scrap.

This

Why the fuck would anybody start videoing shit. The physical device is going to take up space and needs to be in her eyeline eventually. Any recorder does the job fine, Have a second phone and record from a bag. Problem solved