Note: this post is off-topic
(04-20-2017 03:31 AM)Mercenary Wrote: [...]
I hope the girls of the DPRK can get their freedom to travel abroad ASAP so they can finally become more feminine and pleasant women through smartphones, nose piercings, rejecting motherhood, riding the international cock carousel, and getting loads of plastic surgery like their female cousins in the south. Can't wait.
(04-20-2017 03:42 AM)Mercenary Wrote: [...]
You have obviously never been to Seoul or dated a Korean girl.
Get on a airplane and see for yourself what the girls there have become.
When you have a Korean flag notch count of at least 5, we can talk some real talk.
Mercenary,
Until now I have only observed this thread because I am not well-versed on the intricacies of North Korean (NK) politics and its international relations. South Korean (SK) women, however, have been a specialty of mine for around 10 years so this seems like a suitable time to offer my thoughts. As you're asking for notch counts and on-the-ground experience as measures of credibility, I can confirm that I've been there, and that I've banged around 25-30 SK women sourced from the mother land and Down Under. These experiences ranges from same-night-lays to a 3-year relationship. Also, I have a pickup-savvy friend who has been to NK and told me some remarkable stories from his visit (no flag was captured though).
{1} WELL DONE RE: NO-FAP
First, I recall seeing your name many times in the NoFap thread which, to me, represents a core pillar of what's great about RVF and Neomasculinity -- namely, taking responsibility for one's own actions and seeing the virtue in self-discipline to achieve a better, healthier life. I commend your consistent, detailed efforts to add knowledge and actually improve the lives of other men. Fantastic job.
{2} KOREAN WOMEN
I'm not quite sure of the exact point you're trying to make regarding SK women, however it seems that you're basically saying (a) "they suck these days" and (b) "in comparison, NK women are superior". A few points follow in response to this.
{2.1} I am unsure if you are genuine about your claims on SK women, or if you are trying to make a contrarian point for its own sake. If you truly think that SK women are horrible (?), I would seriously love to read a detailed explanation of which countries' women are superior, your rationale for why they're better, along with an overview of your own experience and successes/failures with women in both countries.
{2.2} The problems relating to the 'westernisation' of Asian and other exotic women have been well-documented at RVF and I certainly share your worry in relation to some lingering issues in SK such as the low fertility rate. Please feel free to send me a PM if you would like to know how genuinely important this matter is to me (or to chat about anything).
That said, of the 10+ Asian countries I've been to, my personal ratings for the best quality Asian women are nonetheless SK and Japan, followed by Taiwan. (For pure quantity, I'd say Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia.) Several threads, in particular 'Concerning the Korean chicks vs. all-other-Asian chicks debate', discuss their relative hotness in detail, and the consensus seems to be that SK women are viewed as some of the most attractive and the hardest to bang in all of Asia. The latter, general opinion is likewise congruent with my own experience; I went through the worst night of blow-outs of my entire life when I first went out in SK, and that is saying a lot. Still, I can't stop loving Korean women.
{2.3} In any case, I don't believe that "women suck" let alone "SK women suck". If you wanna find high quality, relationship material women, you really gotta put in the work. Sure, it ain't easy, but it can be done. After all, the 'hard work ethic' is a central tenet of neomasculinity for good reason (it's a must for any man with a desire for self-mastery and dream-catching). On a related note, I previously wrote about the inspiring work of Travesty and other RVFers in searching for and finding such special women.
{2.4} Debating the relative merits of NK versus SK women is likely to be unproductive considering the apparent sample size of zero NK bangs reported at RVF (The search term 'North Korean flag' only reveals the thread 'Will Rodman get flag in North Korea?'
). Therefore, any arguments for/against the relative benefits of higher marriage rates in NK versus the higher attractiveness and health in SK will be largely moot.
In addition, as you have not been to NK or banged a girl from NK, it would be fair to say that your argument lacks the grounding in real-life experience to afford it any credibility. This relates to my next point which I hope you will consider as some constructive feedback.
{3} CREDIBILITY
Consider asking yourself these two questions in all honesty: Do I want to be viewed as a man with credibility? If so, what are some ways to maximise my credibility?
{3.1} I note that you are well-vetted in real life from a number of highly-regarded members such as Gmac, Suits and more. This is interesting. In briefly glancing at the reps of those who seem to share similar, highly-contrarian approaches and interests in speculative globalist plots and metaphysical theories, you are one of the few who has actually put in considerable work to meet other people in person. Therefore it is fair for you to get some leeway in avoiding the common assumptions of some readers in labeling such conspiracy-driven writings as the work of anti-social basement dwellers.
Given the ease of embellishment and outright fabrication on the net, having a couple of RVF members verify that you-are-who-you-say-you-are goes a long way in affording believeability and I do commend your action here. Good on you.
To me, this is a
big +1 for your credibility overall. That said, I've noted some potential risks below and hope you view this as helpful feedback for consideration.
(04-17-2017 02:27 AM)Mercenary Wrote: [...]
I imagine most dudes in the DPRK marry a virgin wife and divorce is rare.
{3.1} I emphasized your speculative "I imagine" because I think this illustrates one of the core reasons why you have received a lot of criticism in this thread.
Across all pickup forums I've been on, posters who engaged in 'mental masturbation' or 'keyboard jockeying' faced harsh scrutiny. These terms referred to the tendency to theorize based on situations that are either hypothetical or situations in which the poster had very limited experience. Rookies who spent a lot of time online
writing about pickup, rather than offline actually
doing pickup were often subject to such branding. While those forums lacked the political/sociological aspects of RVF and thus the theory-driven discussions, there is an important lesson here for any non-fiction writer, and that is:
Write what you know
{3.2} Now, if you're writing about something not based on personal experience, I urge you to acknowledge that you are merely theorizing, and if you're using external sources to back up your claims, do what you can to ensure your sources are credible. For instance, staged photos and NK propaganda posters do not help your argument. Verification of source material is especially important in the age of digital manipulation, fake news and even fake websites. Just keep in mind that search engines can make us feel smarter than we really are.
What's more, Enigma made a number of striking points such as a concern over cherry-picking as a means to support a confirmation bias. I also commend Bushido's level-headed analysis and suggestions for reading.
{3.3} Using other, completely-unrelated perceived or verified deceptions from the government/media does not support any alleged deceptions in this case and instead weakens your original argument. Rather, each claim should be evaluated on its own merit.
As LDN noted
(04-18-2017 04:21 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote: Even Bigbird, globalist PBS shill that he is, still provides an accurate account of how to count to ten.
Similarly, Dr Steven Novella explains that a blanket non-belief of 'everything from authority' is merely contrarian cynicism, not healthy skepticism or critical thinking. LDN shared a similar sentiment in this instance. Rhyme or Reason's post 'Breaking the cycle of cynicism' and H1N1's post 'The Dangers of the Red Pill' note some related problems and suggestions for action.
{3.4} I know it is not easy to admit "I was wrong", especially on a public forum. Being part of online pickup communities for over a decade, I've admittedly written plenty of regret-worthy posts, including a number sent in pride-driven self-defense or in a righteous, emotional outburst. I know it can be tough when you feel backed into a corner. However, people will respect you a lot more if you acknowledge the limitations within any argument rather than persisting in defense of a highly questionable position (like advocating for NK as an apparent way to demonstrate and advocate for disbelief in authority). What's more, being honest with yourself is a necessary step in the journey towards self-mastery.
{4} SELF-AWARENESS
On that note, being a truly free thinker entails adopting a critical, balanced evaluation of opinions not just from the media and other people, but also recognition of our
own self-serving fallacies and biases.
David McRaney Wrote:Once you understand that the brain generates a model that is a representation of a more complex and nuanced reality, you can see that your interactions are broad and blunt, approximate and presumptuous, and probably wrong in many ways but in the end, good enough
With this in mind, it could be helpful to ask yourself "What is more important, to believe I'm right and
feel smart or to grow and
be smarter?" Instead of posting with a mindset of "I am gonna show them how right and smart I am", instead consider the mantra "I wonder if I can learn something from this feedback?". Practicing self-acceptance and detachment from self-rating can help with this.
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{4.1} Something that helps me when posting online, is to consider the idea that 'The Meaning of Your Communication is The Response You Get' -
Perception Studios Wrote:In communicating with other people, what matters more: what we intend to convey, or the actual response we get? Who is responsible for your communication? The meaning of our communication is not what we think it means. It is based on the response we get from the other person...
For example, we might intend to pay someone a compliment, and if they take it the wrong way, what can we do about that? Would it make sense to argue that they should just take it as a compliment and chill out? Perhaps a better approach is to notice that for them to receive it, compliments must be delivered differently.
I've included this because it appears that you seem to be unwilling to consider the validity of any opposing arguments. In light of this, my suggestion would be to reconsider your approach in persuading others of your opinion by asking yourself, "How can I outline my position in a more effective manner?" or even "Considering how much resistance I'm facing, is everyone else mistaken or is my own argument invalid in some way?"
{5} CONCLUSION
In summary, based on my very brief understanding of your postings here, you have already done well in establishing trustworthiness through meeting other members. (I encourage all RVFers to invest in their own, local tribes.) You have also contributed greatly to RVF knowledge on NoFap amongst much else. There are several things you can do to enhance your online credibility, for instance writing what you know, using credible source material, focusing on the issue at hand, and acknowledging the limitations of your own arguments. Last, cultivating frank self-awareness, considering the 'why' behind the feedback on your posts, and using a mindset of learning over pride could also be helpful.
You seem to be a smart, independently-minded guy who is committed to improving the lives of other men, and I want you to know that I sincerely recognise the good work you have done here. I truly wish that your gifts of insight are put to their best use during what limited time we all have. I hope this post was useful for you and the readership.
{6} LINKS
[1] The NoFap thread "
to me, represents a core pillar of what's great about RVF..."
[2] Concerning the Korean chicks vs. all-other-Asian chicks debate
[3] North East Asian Attractiveness Ranking
[4] Hottest Asian Women - what countries?
[5] "The 'hard work ethic' is a
central tenet of neomasculinity.
[6] "
The inspiring work of Travesty and others in searching for and finding such special women..."
[7]
Higher marriage rates in NK
[8] "higher attractiveness
and health in SK"
[9] "...the common reaction of some readers in
labeling such conspiracy-driven writings as the work of anti-social basement dwellers."
[10] "...a lot of
justifiable pushback in this thread."
[11] "... do what you can to
make sure those sources are credible.
[12] "Verification of source material is especially important in the age of digital manipulation,
fake news and even,
[13] ...fake websites."
[14] "Just keep in mind that search engines can
make us feel smarter than we really are."
[15] Self-serving
fallacies
[16] Source for quote from David McRaney
[17] "Practicing self-acceptance and
detachment from self-rating can help."
[18] The Meaning of Your Communication is The Response You Get
[19] "
Dr Steven Novella explains
(in this podcast starting at 18:10) that a blanket non-belief of everything from authority is merely contrarian cynicism, not healthy skepticism or critical thinking." [audio link below]
[20] "...LDN
shared a similar sentiment."
[21] Rhyme or Reason's post on
Breaking the cycle of cynicism and...
[22] ...H1N1's post
The Dangers of the Red Pill note some related problems and suggestions for action."
[19]
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