Post: #1

Dear RVF, first of all sorry for my bad English, I'm french. I'll try my best to write to the best of my abilities. ( Wich I'm constantly working on ).

I wanna adresse a letter to the yougster members

Something strange comming in my life, I'll step in the 30's in june. I've always been the hardest worker in the room. I mean, house paid, car paid, building a log cabin with my hands, good physical conditions... saving money for later. In other words, thinking ahead.

Some caracteristic that will make 18-25 girls RUN AWAY! '' Quenching my thirst with some chubsters '' was my rule of living from 17-27.

But I knew inside of me hard working always pays off. From 27 the 4/10 upgrade to 5... to 6... to 7...

Why? When women realise there body ( usually only tool ) are decay, they turn out to the best provider they can get... asap... I mean Usain Bolt type of quickness.

Now, It's easy to be confident with women when you truly have a value of provider. It breath from the inside out. The attitude himself tell '' proof me you deserve the honnor to be with me. ''

To finish that topic, youngsters, always remember. HARD WORK PAYS OFF. Maybe not tomorow, maybe not next month... but I can guaranty you on my life. If you don't neglect any part money/body/taste for good things/romance, it will lead you to abundance of womens. You're on the best website in the world to get the best tools availble.

Sincerely

J.P.

Post: #2

I'll put it simply. Hard work doesn't draw women to you. Charisma, social skills, and the way you present yourself congruent to those aforementioned things do. Work on those things and you'll find plenty of women.

Also related a rant I posted before:

(01-20-2017 06:16 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  

(01-20-2017 04:11 PM)kavi Wrote:  

(01-19-2017 09:43 PM)Comte De St. Germain Wrote:  But I'll address your charge. It is a matter of game. Learn to control your woman. There was no law on the books executing women for being unfaithful in the past century(or should I say a bit more than that). Sure public taboo and shaming, but no more than that.

Men knew how to keep their women in line without having to beat them or use the law. It was respect that was earned. If you're incapable of that without involving the law then that means you are a gameless loser who is more than likely an aspie with no social skills. Meaning you shouldn't be breeding as it is.

That's my two cents. If you find game meaningless then this forum might not be for you.

"Respect that was earned". Mate, women have no concept of respect like men do. They only follow their hamster. Out of sight is out of mind.

What did Odysseus find when he returned to Greece from Troy?

What about the American soldiers returning from Afghanistan with debilitating injuries who find their wives cheating on them, leaving them and taking their money too.

Where is their respect? Or maybe they just didnt have 'Game'?

You think an intelligent, nerdy, honest and hardworking man shouldn't breed, whereas a good-for-nothing drug dealing player should?

You need to understand that the tribe that promotes the former over the latter will always outcompete the tribe that lets women choose the latter. This is Patriarchy and is the reason why Patriarchy is such a dominant system around the globe. As I mentioned Patriarchy cannot be maintained if it's laws are not enforced, one way or another.

Women have no sense of respect????

If anything that's the only thing they truly comprehend. Female group dynamics is consensus based for this reason. They respect the hierarchy and authority. Hence why men have to instill it. And Odysseus when he returned home from Troy saw his still faithful wife pushing away suitors at every turn that took over his home against her will. Odysseus inspired that kind of respect in his wife.

And from an unrelated thread, but WIA posted some gold as to why it's respect. Not respect in the common sense of the word, but fatherly respect. Guidance, teaching, and patience. Which will in turn make you better at earning respect and leading.

(01-18-2017 10:42 AM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Be mindful of guys you take information from. Lot of the reasoning there is defeatist and will hurt your results.

Basically every chick you've ever been with can "unlock", but you've got to figure out her key, then show her the way. A lot of that behavior is her mirroring you. You have to be dominant and lead, but not in the slapping, choking, no lube anal shit that people think of as dominant.

When you are using her body in an assertive manner, but not an abusive manner, you can start to give direction.

Having a chick try to blow you but her gag reflex gets in the way? That is more pleasurable than a chick who can deep throat at will. One girl is desperately trying to please you, the other might be just showing off.

And here's a tip that is universal, people like being given direction from people that they respect. And it can sometimes work two ways, where by you giving orders, she respects you, and backwards rationalizes her desire and respect.

So you've got ol girl back at the crib, just like the front end of the pull where you have her looking for your validation, do the same thing in the bedroom. Pull back on pleasuring her, put her under your control, and then get compliance.

Tell her to undress slowly
Put the heels back on
If she's at her crib, make her put on some jewelry

All that stuff she does to make herself appear and feel sexy, have her do it for you. So even when you're not with her, she thinks about that when she's getting ready. You want to use the power of association as much as possible. Half of it fails, half of it works. Which half you'll never know.

Just like them boys want you to six pack diet yourself into pussy, I'm saying you always need to get into her head.

At my favorite spot of all time, I was on the dance floor with this chick. It was crowded enough to grab a kiss, so she kissed me.

"Now kiss me like you actually love me"

2nd kiss was way more passionate

Next, I said something about kissing me like she was going to fuck me and forget me.

3rd kiss unlocked this chick. Bang was porn style.

All the while, I'm telling this chick, "you know I'm not right for you, but tonight.."

People are suggestible when you've laid the ground work. Lot of these guys on game boards are unaware that you can even think like this.

But chicks revert to the mean. And you're not the only one who can make suggestions. Which is why it's important to take a girl to lots of places emotionally. Her drugs are her emotions, literally the chemicals in her brain, much less the conscious thoughts. Give her that first high, and she chases it. She'll do anything for it, be who you want her to be...for a time

WIA

Game is guiding the woman. If you can't guide your woman to improve your station in life and get her to please you then yes in my opinion you've failed your imperative because you're not improving your own life or hers.

Now if you're talking honor........

Women don't have it. "All is fair in love and war." And for women every day is full of love and war. I believe a poster on the forum put it it as "make up is a female arms race".

And if the hardworking nerdy guy doesn't have enough brains to survive in the real world where he would get ate up...sucks to sucks. Well good luck. If I remember correctly quite a few famous scientists died virgins. Including Sir Issac Newton.

Quote:Personal relations
Although it was claimed that he was once engaged,[95] Newton never married. The French writer and philosopher Voltaire, who was in London at the time of Newton's funeral, said that he "was never sensible to any passion, was not subject to the common frailties of mankind, nor had any commerce with women—a circumstance which was assured me by the physician and surgeon who attended him in his last moments".[96] The widespread belief that he died a virgin has been commented on by writers such as mathematician Charles Hutton,[97] economist John Maynard Keynes,[98] and physicist Carl Sagan.[99]
Newton did have a close friendship with the Swiss mathematician Nicolas Fatio de Duillier, whom he met in London around 1690.[100] Their intense relationship came to an abrupt and unexplained end in 1693, and at the same time Newton suffered a nervous breakdown.[101] Some of their correspondence has survived.[102][103]
In September of that year, Newton had a breakdown which included sending wild accusatory letters to his friends Samuel Pepys and John Locke. His note to the latter included the charge that Locke "endeavoured to embroil me with woemen".[104]

For all his intelligence he was a human social failure. A shame but life isn't fair. I don't plan to hand out welfare to undeserving leeches who think they're entitled to pussy.

Work for it like the rest of us.

Post: #3

[quote='Comte De St. Germain' pid='1539888' dateline='1490970538']
I'll put it simply. Hard work doesn't draw women to you. Charisma, social skills, and the way you present yourself congruent to those aforementioned things do. Work on those things and you'll find plenty of women.

Also related a rant I posted before:

[quote='Comte De St. Germain' pid='1490592' dateline='1484954213']


True! There is NO POINT to be neglect. Sharpen your skills in EVERY area.

Post: #4

Women love the results that come from the hard work. They don't really want to know that it took work to get there. They want the CEO who built the company before meeting her, the physique from years in the gym after it's been built, and the lifestyle that took you a decade or more to establish. I as a man can admire hard work. I think the women that do are few and far between.

Post: #5

(03-31-2017 09:57 AM)TheFinalEpic Wrote:  Women love the results that come from the hard work. They don't really want to know that it took work to get there. They want the CEO who built the company before meeting her, the physique from years in the gym after it's been built, and the lifestyle that took you a decade or more to establish. I as a man can admire hard work. I think the women that do are few and far between.

Well spoken my friend, well spoken! Lots of pratical not theorical wisdom in your words!

Post: #6

This reminds me of the How to leverage high IQ for game thread.

When talking about attracting women, simply being smart, having money, being responsible, and various other personal improvements and states of being aren't going to get them onto you. These are tools you can use to better your life, but you need to find a way to leverage them and convey them in a sort of way that will make it easier for you to attract women.

This is why tons of filthy rich men are total schlubs with women and wind up doing p4p.

This is why tons of dudes with competition-level physiques don't get tons of pussy and often will date waayyy down.

This is why many men who do "the right thing" in life are often sexless and alone.

Game is the piece of the puzzle that is missing. If having sex with attractive women is your goal, then game is honestly more important than all of those things. Game is knowing how to interact with women to get favorable results from them.

OP, the fact that you have been smart with your money, responsible, and in-shape isn't why you slugged it out with 4's through your late teens and early 20's. Women aren't allergic to successful and responsible men. The reason you couldn't get quality pussy earlier in life is simply because you were inexperienced and likely piss-poor at interacting with attractive women.

I see too often a lot of men think "If I just made $xxxxxx/year then I could be a baller and get tons of women" or "If I could get to xxxlbs. with only x.x% body fat then women would be crawling all over me" or "If I get my dress and hairstyle onpoint then I will be able to get women" - truth is all of that shit is extra, and none of it makes a man. Sure, looking great and throwing around money will get you some initial attention, but having a flat personality and being awkward, shy, and anxious once you are in front of a woman is going to leave you empty handed almost 100% of the time.

Post: #7

One day, maybe you can talk more about your log cabin -- cost, blueprints, time frame, photos, insulation, plumbing etc.

I would love to read that.

Post: #8

"Paper assets" and "hard work" are worth nothing to a girl's eyes. Being handsome, fit, good at talking, and fun to be with are things that will get you laid. Showing a Bitcoin wallet or bank statement with a million dollars are worth nothing if you come to the date dressed like a nerd, wearing thick glasses, smoking, and having a belly.

That's why some ultra-rich guys end up marrying single mothers and athletes end up with fatties. Game will get you laid, not money, beauty (to a certain extend), or assets.

Post: #9

> Being handsome, fit, good at talking, and fun to be with are things that will get you laid.

This. Having worked in finance in NYC, I've seen plenty of guys pulling in 6 figures barely scoring with 6s and 7s, while broke guys who had some combo of looks + game consistently getting with younger, far more attractive women. I've had a rather eclectic group of friends over the years, and the most successful ladies men were far from well off.