If Portugal and Spain had any brains we'd be actively working on attracting French, Swedish, British (quite a few of those already though), Belgian, Dutch, Danes and other other afflicted peoples of Europe for at least a temporary migration and well needed investments. I'd put Italy in the lot but they're having a hard time with never ending African cultural enrichment. But it would make sense in a strategic way to cater to individuals from those countries, a lot of potential to be explored here. Sadly our governments are corrupt and idiotic.
damn, those margins are a lot worst than what i predicted. I don't think Le Pen could win in 2022, even if shit continues to hit the fan in France. Not with these numbers. She might get 45% in 2022 at best, but she'll still lose. After the 2022 election it's truly game over, it will be a straight demographics game after that and the patriots/nationalists won't be on the right side of it.
As for Macron's election stalling the EU collapse, I am not too sure. Let us consider this, Le Pen would mean a bigger crackdown on Islam and on immigration, these effects could actually lead the French to ignore the EU dilemma because they would be given a false sense of security in case something like this started to happen. But when has Europe actually solved things with common sense and logic instead of a war sparked by a succession of tragic events, a death by a thousand cuts?
With Macron... you get MORE immigration, you get MORE Islam appeasement. With more appeasement come more attacks, with more attacks the social discontent that has led the FN from being an insignificant fringe party into gaining 35% of the votes can only GROW. Macron, who will not win the legislature and as the Hollande 2.0 that he is can only EMBOLDEN a movement such as the FN.
If the FN continues the rebrand, changes their economic policies, and Le Pen revises some of her positions, such as a somewhat spiteful attitude towards Christianity (she strikes me as a "radical laicist) it will be no fuck up game in 2022. We have lost the battle but we will win the war.
As for Macron's election stalling the EU collapse, I am not too sure. Let us consider this, Le Pen would mean a bigger crackdown on Islam and on immigration, these effects could actually lead the French to ignore the EU dilemma because they would be given a false sense of security in case something like this started to happen. But when has Europe actually solved things with common sense and logic instead of a war sparked by a succession of tragic events, a death by a thousand cuts?
With Macron... you get MORE immigration, you get MORE Islam appeasement. With more appeasement come more attacks, with more attacks the social discontent that has led the FN from being an insignificant fringe party into gaining 35% of the votes can only GROW. Macron, who will not win the legislature and as the Hollande 2.0 that he is can only EMBOLDEN a movement such as the FN.
If the FN continues the rebrand, changes their economic policies, and Le Pen revises some of her positions, such as a somewhat spiteful attitude towards Christianity (she strikes me as a "radical laicist) it will be no fuck up game in 2022. We have lost the battle but we will win the war.
Globalism will die, Chairwoman Merkel will fall.
Terrible video, this guy doesn't understand french political structure and the current dynamics.
-Le Pen's ceiling is not much higher than her current score. Islamic terror is already factored in. There is a freakin massacre every year. People change their Facebook av filter for a month then move on. They get poorer, but slowly, and lower their expectations
-and half of those that are really pissed blame "capitalism" and join leftist controlled opposition (Melenchon) whose role is to divert the struggling working people and unemployed away from the uncucked nationalist right.
-Macron beat her badly with the 18-24yo. 250k+ new immigrants every year.
-All the Socialist MPs are behind him, and half the LRs are Lindsey Graham cuck types, including most of the Republicain leadership.
-french MSM is cucked to death, even worse than in the US.
Only hope is growing outrage at scandals//Macroleaks, growth in online alt media.
MLP could be finished, she might need to pass the baton to someone like Nicolas Dupont-Aignan, who comes with zero baggage. The FN/le Pen brand has been much maligned. You've gotta have some minorities in the party leadership, guys like Carson. The Socialists have had token minorities for decades and have used them to exploit that segment with globalist policies, ever more immigration that make the lives of those who were there before harder, and shitty neocon foreign policies funding fundies that tear up countries all over Africa and the mideast.
The opportunity is there in 2022 but the Real Right has to play its cards right.
As a child in Britain, I went on holiday to France almost every summer time
I have lovely memories crossing the channel on the ferry at Dover, and arriving in Calais, greeted by French Francs and bottles of Orangina (they gave you them when you arrived for some reason)
We'd always stay in the same holiday house in the French countryside. Owned by a lovely old woman who didn't speak a single word of English, this old home was huge and had a massive garden, which was great to explore as a child, especially in the warm glow of the French sun
We'd go into the village centre and would enjoy the culture: the boloungerie , the patisserie, as well as little smells and experiences of the relaxed French life
Father would enjoy a French wine by the TV, Mother would enjoy the cuisine, I would play on the swing and run around the garden for hours
I hate to see culture erode away. Culture is to the country, what soul is to the human body
"Anyone but Le Pen"
"Nationalism is outdated."
"She is a racist, nationalist, populist etc."
"Macron is change"
"Terrorism does not matter - it is a tiny minority doing it"
Yeah - worked out great for Lebanon, but I guess it is as with communism - it will certainly work much better this time around despite having plenty of evidence to the contrary
The indoctrination has well taken hold and they even cite Trump and Brexit as examples that they have to stop such election results.
(05-07-2017 08:23 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: If Portugal and Spain had any brains we'd be actively working on attracting French, Swedish, British (quite a few of those already though), Belgian, Dutch, Danes and other other afflicted peoples of Europe for at least a temporary migration and well needed investments. I'd put Italy in the lot but they're having a hard time with never ending African cultural enrichment. But it would make sense in a strategic way to cater to individuals from those countries, a lot of potential to be explored here. Sadly our governments are corrupt and idiotic.
I know of a Dutch businessman who is building up his empire in Portugal. He says that the banks there are much more willing to work with him than in NL.
"Anyone but Le Pen"
"Nationalism is outdated."
"She is a racist, nationalist, populist etc."
"Macron is change"
"Terrorism does not matter - it is a tiny minority doing it"
Yeah - worked out great for Lebanon, but I guess it is as with communism - it will certainly work much better this time around despite having plenty of evidence to the contrary
The indoctrination has well taken hold and they even cite Trump and Brexit as examples that they have to stop such election results.
Ironic how they say Le Pen will move the country backward, yet vote for the candidate that will allow mass immigration of people with an ideology from the 13th century.
French people simple have not the revolutionary spirit you find in Americans, virtue signaling is their main issue.
Notice as well how few of these punters could name any specific policy of Le Pen's, falling back on the "she's racist/facist!" straw man.
I guess you cannot help people who don't want to be helped, they will have to learn the hard way, sad to see this country spiralling towards it's own self destruction.
(05-08-2017 12:25 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote: This resonates with me on a personal level
As a child in Britain, I went on holiday to France almost every summer time
I have lovely memories crossing the channel on the ferry at Dover, and arriving in Calais, greeted by French Francs and bottles of Orangina (they gave you them when you arrived for some reason)
We'd always stay in the same holiday house in the French countryside. Owned by a lovely old woman who didn't speak a single word of English, this old home was huge and had a massive garden, which was great to explore as a child, especially in the warm glow of the French sun
We'd go into the village centre and would enjoy the culture: the boloungerie , the patisserie, as well as little smells and experiences of the relaxed French life
Father would enjoy a French wine by the TV, Mother would enjoy the cuisine, I would play on the swing and run around the garden for hours
I hate to see culture erode away. Culture is to the country, what soul is to the human body
Nowadays, I'd probably get raped if I went there
Nice recollections there, my memories are very similar to this.
My folks brought me and siblings to Normandy and Brittany several times when we were kids. Great times, and I'm very grateful now to my parents for making the effort to bring us to such beautiful places.
There was only a handful of non-French around in those days, at least in the parts we visited, and I don't recall seeing any people wearing Islamic garb of any kind.
Brittany will hold onto it's identity longer, perhaps too the Basque part of France in the SW and the more remote rural parts, but for urban and semi-urban France, the way things are going they soon will not be France anymore.
I thought she would break the 40% barrier, which would have been great, but unfortunately too many French in France.
However, in 15 years Marine doubled FN voting. Her father had 18% she had around 34%. Her father had warned about the dangers of Islam and surely gained from 9/11 factor. There will be elections in June, also two rounds, so I also do not expect a win for FN.
Unless Islamic invasion is put to a halt, sooner or later the Maslow pyramid of needs will take control. Until the mainstream parties cater to these interests to stop Islam, FN and other Nationalistic movements will keep growing throughout Europe. Mainstream parties are not dumb, that's why they do have some "tough talk" near election period. 25% did not vote, which is a record for France. In the near future is quite possible that those 25% will indeed vote for their safety. People will always vote for safety over economics.
Marine is a great politician, and extremely smart. She took a toxic brand, and made it better. I'm pretty sure she knows that now she has to step down and make her movement more wide. I wonder what she will do next with FN and the tactics for the June elections.
First polls say 24-26% to Maricon, 22% to Republicans, 21-22% FN, 13-15% to Commielenchon and 8-9% to Socialist party.
That is how the West falls. The universal values of the West that only Westerners live by will be their doom.
ALL OTHER TRIBES ARE LIVING ON CLEAR INGROUP-PREFERENCE! Only the West is living in suicidal idealism that all groups will have zero in-group-preference. That is why even a Korean will be seen as a foreigner after living there with his family for 300 years. The Chinese are the same and most of the tribes of the world are similar.
The West is dumb enough to assume that hostile groups will be as compassionate to them as they are to minorities after they have become minorities in their own countries. Guess what would happen to Christians in Muslim countries if they killed each year a few dozen Muslims screaming "Hail Jesus" at the top of their lungs? What would happen if Western immigrants to Dubai started raping thousands of local Emirates girls each year?
Nothing?
But it is not as bleak as one might assume. The globalists cannot afford the West to become primitive shitholes. The nuclear arsenal and the nuclear power plants cannot be allowed to ever be in the hands of medieval moronic African-style dictators or Ayatollahs. Also the West must never lose the technology or we are all getting irradiated - including the elite. So make no mistake - sooner or later they will clamp down on it and the Orwellian boot will come down on all the diversity and enrichment. The Western wonderful countries like France will be gone and in it's wake there will be an all-powerful totalitarian super-state ruling, but it won't be Muslim and it won't be a technological shithole. And no - not even a "moderate" Islamic Republic will be allowed to exist - such a concoction is one swift move away from the Caliphate.
(05-07-2017 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
Breaking News, Going Strong headed for New York. Carries a bag full of rare Pepes, asks for political asylum in the USA. Offers to help build the Wall for free with his bare hands.
You keep taunting me, while keeping as your trademark signature here, a quote of Mohamed asking for "true believers" not to taunt... Sad! And, according to your own (professed) beliefs, sacrilegious.
Anyway, found a video of you dizzy with malignant joy yesterday, after Macron's victory:
(Translation of what the "migrants" chant, just a few yards from Macron himself:
"We don't go back to our countries, we stay here, we stay here" https://vid.me/e/sPZM )
They (the "migrants") knew perfectly well what was at stakes yesterday. All in all: Immense victory for Africa, great loss for France and native Europeans. Unless we (Conservative Europeans) win, which we will, in mid-June parliamentary elections, thus robbing Macron of 80% of his newfound powers!
(05-07-2017 08:23 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote: If Portugal and Spain had any brains we'd be actively working on attracting French, Swedish, British (quite a few of those already though), Belgian, Dutch, Danes and other other afflicted peoples of Europe for at least a temporary migration and well needed investments. I'd put Italy in the lot but they're having a hard time with never ending African cultural enrichment. But it would make sense in a strategic way to cater to individuals from those countries, a lot of potential to be explored here. Sadly our governments are corrupt and idiotic.
I know of a Dutch businessman who is building up his empire in Portugal. He says that the banks there are much more willing to work with him than in NL.
Some EE countries, like Poland or Romania for instance, are already attracting native French, businessmen or even just students or job seekers (or digital nomads).
White-Flight is seriously starting throughout France, and EE is definitely the number-1 destination, followed by Canada, Asia, Australia, LatAm...
(05-08-2017 12:25 AM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote: This resonates with me on a personal level
As a child in Britain, I went on holiday to France almost every summer time
I have lovely memories crossing the channel on the ferry at Dover, and arriving in Calais, greeted by French Francs and bottles of Orangina (they gave you them when you arrived for some reason)
We'd always stay in the same holiday house in the French countryside. Owned by a lovely old woman who didn't speak a single word of English, this old home was huge and had a massive garden, which was great to explore as a child, especially in the warm glow of the French sun
We'd go into the village centre and would enjoy the culture: the boloungerie , the patisserie, as well as little smells and experiences of the relaxed French life
Father would enjoy a French wine by the TV, Mother would enjoy the cuisine, I would play on the swing and run around the garden for hours
I hate to see culture erode away. Culture is to the country, what soul is to the human body
Nowadays, I'd probably get raped if I went there
My experiences are similar. French are weird but they were across the channel and our history of blood letting made us friends, like the Americans.
But these days the differences regardless of the Channel might as well be a gulf the size of an ocean and it is more than just politics at play here. They have a morass of different cultures vying for attention with the biggest being Islam and there is no love of France as a country anymore.
Metropolitan liberals and their political and cultural sheep herders across every Western EU country have become addicted and indifferent to gloablism based on their feelings.
Rigsby might confuse some people who are not British in his rants but he rings a truth most cannot understand unless they witness it first hand.
There simply is no purpose to many peoples lives other than to consume, work and fuck.
The host cannot remain strong if its immune system is comprmised.
(05-07-2017 03:55 PM)It_is_my_time Wrote: If Americans have to start taking in French refugees from the severe violence coming to their country, I hope they vet them by making sure they are French Nationalist Front connected people. If not, let them stay and suffer their decision to turn their country over to invaders.
Breaking News, Going Strong headed for New York. Carries a bag full of rare Pepes, asks for political asylum in the USA. Offers to help build the Wall for free with his bare hands.
You keep taunting me, while keeping as your trademark signature here, a quote of Mohamed asking for "true believers" not to taunt... Sad! And, according to your own (professed) beliefs, sacrilegious.
Anyway, found a video of you dizzy with malignant joy yesterday, after Macron's victory:
(Translation of what the "migrants" chant, just a few yards from Macron himself:
"We don't go back to our countries, we stay here, we stay here" https://vid.me/e/sPZM )
They (the "migrants") knew perfectly well what was at stakes yesterday. All in all: Immense victory for Africa, great loss for France and native Europeans. Unless we (Conservative Europeans) win, which we will, in mid-June parliamentary elections, thus robbing Macron of 80% of his newfound powers!
I have stopped trying hard on this forum to demonstrate my love for Europe, laicity, progressiveness, etc because no matter what I say, I am always sent back to my condition of muslim immigrant. The same way you guys embrace your "racist" and "creepy" labels by the american left, and be unapologetic about it, now I am gonna embrace my immigrant and muslim status, and be proud of it. Ultimately what matters is the impact of government policies in real life, so neither you or me should be impacted by what an internet forum says. But because this forum indeed allows free speech, I ain't gonna shut up myself and not use posts, memes and gifs to give my political opinion AND respond to people who call me names, the same way you guys do.
TLDR: Yeah I, muslim immigrant, is happy to stay in Europe, and it is truly delicious to taste the tears of the Front National supporters. All the immigrants in my social circle are happy about it and we celebrate it IRL, and online. And we will keep doing this every 5 years, when Le Pen looses the elections.
I'll concede this tough: that quote is outdated. I am putting it down right there, since the only purpose I had it was to show I would not respond to ad hominem attacks. Things have changed.