Post: #26

Whether real or a fake troll....I want to know how is it possible this dude's account on twitter has not been banned yet ?

Milo Yiannopoulos, Chateau Heartiste (Roissy), Krauser, and many others got kicked off twitter for saying much, much less controversial stuff than what this guy is writing.

Post: #27

Baked Alaska: I noticed that Jews totally dominate the mainstream media.
Cernovich: Wow, just wow! The JQ? You're an idiot. And you're fired. And you're not invited to my party anymore.

Loren Feldman: I un-ironically advocate the mass murder of Palestinian women and children. Oh, and by the way, Jews run everything! LOL suck it, goys.
Cernovich: Let's make a movie together!

What the fuck is going on here? The double standard and hypocrisy is outrageous. Mike obviously has the right to associate with whoever he wants, but throwing Baked Alaska under the bus while continuing to associate with this piece of shit Feldman is utterly inexplicable.

Post: #28

Im waiting for Mike to respond before passing judgement.

I mean the manosphere and especially this forum are some of the major contributing factors to his success

Hopefully he sees this soon.

Post: #29

He attacked neomasculinity a long time ago as if there were a cult following, while showing off his "10" wife ok....?

Never struck me as an aspirational figure: one pic I saw of him had his head wrapped in....white bandages? And he always has those reddish-black bags under his eyes? Ok...? Not passing the gut test.

I found Loren through Mike and thought the guy's puppet shows were funny. But he's putting out a lot of negative, draining energy now

Post: #30

Wasn't a big fan of the Despicable Me and Minion movies.

Wait, we're not talking about the same guy are we?

Post: #31

He sure seems to hate Gentiles. He's doing everything possible to reduce antisemitism! Hats off to this wonderful bastion of tolerance.

This guy is becoming a walking stereotype of a Jew who hates non-Jews. His twitter posts are reprehensible. Mike needs to call him out. There's no respect in staying silent at a man who in complete seriousness calls for a genocide against an entire group of people.

Who the hell does this guy think he is?

Post: #32

This guy is a wacko. I was going to buy his new documentary but now I'm definitely not.

Post: #33

Loren is a troll, and has a long history of trolling.
He can go fuck himself, obviously.

Post: #34

I put money into Silenced and followed Loren. I'm pretty sure that's him.

His sense of humor has always been poor. He's never gotten many retweets or likes. He'll also worship his wife/girlfriend in a strange way where he sounds try-hard.

Speaking of try-hard, I tried, really hard, harder than I should, to like his puppetry, but I found it overwrought and not funny 99% of the time.

I think there's been some spats between then, but I can't remember any particular instances. They've gone on car rides together and Feldman has passively-aggressively criticized Mike's interest in politics multiple times without @mentioning him.

Post: #35

Dude talks partly like a smarmy snarky SJW faggot and partly like some unhinged Jewish supremacist lunatic. Can fuck off either way, what an insufferable douchebag. Must do a good job concealing his true nature if he was able to fool Roosh of all people. Though I would expect Mike to be able to see through that if he has spent so much time with him and arranged a film to be made, and I would take it personally if he doesn't disown this guy after blatantly shitting all over this community and what we believe in. The double standard and hypocrisy of being able to vomit out this vileness on twitter, and get a complete pass from Dorsey, while others aligned with our movement simply having a differing opinion are silenced are always hilarious to see so out in the open. It never gets old.

Post: #36

Over lunch in Cleveland, the JQ did come up and Loren spoke quickly to defend Jewish interests. So if he's trolling now, it's at least somewhat consistent what what I saw from him in person. From meeting him, I quickly learned that he was (1) Jewish, (2) sensitive to "anti-semitism", and (3) vocal about defending his people.

Quote:I put money into Silenced and followed Loren. I'm pretty sure that's him.

I contributed $100. Loren got a substantial amount to make the film, so a man who is now attacking me actually walked away with some of my money. I guess I'm the fool here.

Post: #37

On a related note, Adam Piggot had a good blog post on these matters recently.


https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/1...anosphere/


Loren Feldman has his panties in a bundle ,however he was responding to something that is a problem to say the least.


Personally as someone of Jewish background I rather associate with crypto nazis who can defend Jews from cultural enrichment, attacks on masculinity and other destructive forces than the lefty coastal Jews people on this corner of this internet attack. We shouldn't get sidetracked. The enemy is the left, Jewish ,Goy or ect.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIO4oSLwK3A

Post: #38

(12-31-2016 01:31 PM)Nowak Wrote:  On a related note, Adam Piggot had a good blog post on these matters recently.


https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/1...anosphere/

This article is blue pill garbage, and I'm suspicious that you consider it "good."

Quote:Blaming the faults and woes of the world on the Jews is infantile, imbecilic, and unoriginal. My brain turns to mush when I read shit like this because it is the same ad hominem disqualifying tactic that the Left routinely uses. Unfortunately it seems to be on the rise in the manosphere.

Who attacked us in February? The media. Who controls the media in a disproportionate amount? Who are the feminists that regularly attack us? Who created feminism? Who is the sister of a billionaire tech tycoon who recently attacked us? Who controls the SPLC, which attacked me in 2012? Who controls the ADL, which also attacked me? I think you know the answer. Now name one predominately Christian or Muslim organization that has attacked us. I'll wait. There's a pattern, and I'd be blind not to see it.

Not mentioning who is involved in various cultural machinations is dishonesty through omission. Whether someone who launches attacks is Muslim, Jew, or Buddhist, that's wholly relevant to the matter, and it's clear to me that the race/tribe of those who have attacked us the hardest over the past 5 years has been the Jews, almost exclusively. And here we have Loren Feldman. For being 3% of the US population, they represent over 50% of the attacks against us. It's not anti-semitic to point that out. It's reality. You can't begin to fight back unless you know who considers you an enemy.

Post: #39

(12-31-2016 01:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 01:31 PM)Nowak Wrote:  On a related note, Adam Piggot had a good blog post on these matters recently.


https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/1...anosphere/

This article is blue pill garbage, and I'm suspicious now that you consider it "good."

Quote:Blaming the faults and woes of the world on the Jews is infantile, imbecilic, and unoriginal. My brain turns to mush when I read shit like this because it is the same ad hominem disqualifying tactic that the Left routinely uses. Unfortunately it seems to be on the rise in the manosphere.

Who attacked us in February? The media. Who controls the media in a disproportionate amount? Who are the feminists that regularly attack us? Who created feminism? Who is the sister of a billionaire tech tycoon who recently attacked us? Who controls the SPLC, which attacked me in 2012? Who controls the ADL, which also attacked me? I think you know the answer. Now name one predominately Christian or Muslim organization that has attacked us. I'll wait. There's a pattern, and I'd be blind not to see it.

Not mentioning who is involved in various cultural machinations is dishonesty through omission. Whether someone who launches attacks is Muslim, Jew, or Buddhist, that's wholly relevant to the matter, and it's clear to me that the race/tribe of those who have attacked us the hardest over the past 5 years has been the Jews, almost exclusively. And here we have Loren Feldman. For being 3% of the US population, they represent over 50% of the attacks against us. It's not anti-semitic to point that out. It's reality. You can't begin to fight back unless you considers you an enemy.

I apologize, jumped the gun on this, was thinking there is a PR or ''image'' problem that would ruffle peoples jimmies , but you're right, fuck em. These topics cannot be avoided and should continue to be talked about.

Post: #40

I call out this blogger and people like him on appropiating the concept of "anti-semitism",last time I checked,"jews" werent the only "semites" out there but hey,don't let objectiveness get in the way of virtue signalling

Post: #41

(12-31-2016 01:39 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 01:31 PM)Nowak Wrote:  On a related note, Adam Piggot had a good blog post on these matters recently.


https://pushingrubberdownhill.com/2016/1...anosphere/

This article is blue pill garbage, and I'm suspicious that you consider it "good."

Quote:Blaming the faults and woes of the world on the Jews is infantile, imbecilic, and unoriginal. My brain turns to mush when I read shit like this because it is the same ad hominem disqualifying tactic that the Left routinely uses. Unfortunately it seems to be on the rise in the manosphere.

Who attacked us in February? The media. Who controls the media in a disproportionate amount? Who are the feminists that regularly attack us? Who created feminism? Who is the sister of a billionaire tech tycoon who recently attacked us? Who controls the SPLC, which attacked me in 2012? Who controls the ADL, which also attacked me? I think you know the answer. Now name one predominately Christian or Muslim organization that has attacked us. I'll wait. There's a pattern, and I'd be blind not to see it.

Not mentioning who is involved in various cultural machinations is dishonesty through omission. Whether someone who launches attacks is Muslim, Jew, or Buddhist, that's wholly relevant to the matter, and it's clear to me that the race/tribe of those who have attacked us the hardest over the past 5 years has been the Jews, almost exclusively. And here we have Loren Feldman. For being 3% of the US population, they represent over 50% of the attacks against us. It's not anti-semitic to point that out. It's reality. You can't begin to fight back unless you know who considers you an enemy.

Well said. I'm sure Trump would agree, if he had the power (or inclination?) to do so:

Post: #42

Relevant quote from Christopher Hitchens, which is included in a post at Alpha Game today:

Quote:I think Hannah Arendt said that one of the great achievements of Stalinism was to replace all discussion involving arguments and evidence with the question of motive. If someone were to say, for example, that there are many people in the Soviet Union who don’t have enough to eat, it might make sense for them to respond, “It’s not our fault, it was the weather, a bad harvest or something.” Instead it’s always, “Why is this person saying this, and why are they saying it in such and such a magazine? It must be that this is part of a plan.”

Indeed. And mere observation is neither endorsement nor criticism.

Post: #43

(12-31-2016 11:28 AM)Thersites Wrote:  First Baked Alaska, and now Feldman is going off the rails. Its either Mike picked up some shit employees or its some coordinated sabotage of Mike's brand.

I'm starting to really think there is some type of sabotage with this alt-right or new freight or whatever you want to call it.

I think the problem would be closer to solved if this whole little movement had a single solid leader. The Tea Party had Herman Cain, we need somebody like that.

Aloha!

Post: #44

Damn the CEO's response in this thread...irrefutable... Roosh Eithered that thread... So let me drop the beat like... Here

Post: #45

(12-31-2016 02:26 PM)Kona Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 11:28 AM)Thersites Wrote:  First Baked Alaska, and now Feldman is going off the rails. Its either Mike picked up some shit employees or its some coordinated sabotage of Mike's brand.

I'm starting to really think there is some type of sabotage with this alt-right or new freight or whatever you want to call it.

I think the problem would be closer to solved if this whole little movement had a single solid leader. The Tea Party had Herman Cain, we need somebody like that.

Aloha!

I think this is a coordinated effort, it's just a little coincidental first BA - then this fool ?

My eyebrows are raised, I'm waiting for others to come out of the woodworks on this.

Post: #46

(12-31-2016 08:49 AM)Roosh Wrote:  I met with Loren Feldman in Cleveland a couple months ago. He shook my hand over lunch, smiled, and did not offer any objection to my work, and even asked for my phone number so I could be included in Mike's documentary (he didn't follow through). I ran into him at least a couple times in Cleveland.

I was under the impression that he definitely knew about my work because he said that he would put an interview of me beside Weev (an infamous neo-Nazi), so any objection he now states must have certainly been on his mind back in July. For him to insult me from the safety of Twitter is cowardly when he had ample opportunity to do so in person. Possible explanations for his sudden emotional outburst is either the critical reviews of the documentary he made for Mike or the fact that the alt right has been using his Jewish nationalist views to attack Mike in light of the Baked Alaska drama.

I'll be curious to see if Mike continues to use his work. We know that Mike was a big part of the manosphere and is actually considering a book called The War On Men, which Loren says is not true. Based on Loren's full assault on our foundation of thought along with our characters, my guess is Mike will distance himself from it.

Can't say I'm surprised. I've seen him talking shit about many folks on the right for a while. His tweets have been aggressive for months. Ball-less cuck if you ask me.

Post: #47

(12-31-2016 10:25 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Doesn't seem that unlikely the guy that wrote the below wrote those tweets.

http://www.lorenfeldman.com/the-altright...servatism/

Quote:So the altright is rebranding as the newright. It doesn’t matter. Trump wants no part of Pepe now. In fact Pepe is about to get slaughtered publicly. I told you from the beginning the extreme antisemitism wasn’t the right angle. White, poor, or pissed was. Trump’s daughter and most important thing in his life converted to orthodox judaism to marry Jared, Trump’s closest confidant. Trump was mentored by brilliant insane Jews his whole life. There will be Shabbos in the Whitehouse. That’s a fact. Hating Jews wasn’t helping or smart.

It’s easy and fun to hate Jews. We win a lot. Basically by working hard and maybe some genetics. When I discovered the altright it seemed like blue collar young pissed conservatives, but as Pepe took over the national zeitgeist it was over. Too much attention on a negative vibe. Too much on twitter. Should have kept it quiet. Gotta practice that free speech though. Even if it’s stupid. Now personally being a Maccabee none of this really bothered me. I knew Trump was going to be pro Israel and Jewish in general. That was pretty obvious. In fact his first phone call was to Bibi saying I love you. It was also a dog whistle to the antisemitic factions of America.

President Trump is going to need to eventually deal with the other side. He will have to offer something. It will be the altright. By contacting Bibi in addition to being good for America, it sends a message. “I’m not gonna deal with or care about your antisemitic bullshit. In fact I don’t like it.” That’s the dog whistle.

The altright can rebrand all it wants, they are finished. What this was really was about was the recalibrating of Conservatism. What that means in today’s world. As a Jew busting his ass like everyone else I assure you we aren’t the problem. The people who elected Trump don’t hate Jews, Blacks, Gays, or anyone else who is American and sane.

Modern Conservatism in broad terms. G-d, country, guns, small gov’t., financial prudence. Men are men, women are women kinda people. Enough with all the degenerate stuff, fuck the media, and all the condescending intelligentsia bullshit too. Poor to middle class and struggling, or rich and pissed. All tired of this 1984 language bullshit. Modern conservatives don’t hate anyone, they just want to work, do their thing and feel safe in knowing that their own government isn’t inept or actually working against them. That’s who elected Trump, that’s what Modern Conservatism is.

So what happens to the altright? Many will realize they are actually modern conservatives. The antisemites dig in deeper. Trump establishes a relationship with Israel unseen in history and we all move on. As for Pepe? He’ll be seen on Passover when that occurs in the Whitehouse too. As the family counts out the plagues on their napkins with the wine and it gets to frogs Jared will smile and squeeze Ivankas hand as he looks at President Trump, grandson in lap, who looks at him back and winks.

G-d has blessed America.

I do not know Feldman, but whoever wrote that above is right about everything they wrote in the above passage. I do not know what G-d is so I cannot agree with that, but everything else is right on the money.

As far as Twitter goes and the internet in general it is a good resource for information and meeting like minded people , but the lack of in person contact leads to situations like this where one cannot convey tone or observe body language and really divine peoples intent. Trolls are inevitable.

Post: #48

Jews are overrepresented in media, finance, politics, etc , but how much of that is due to them being tight-knit? Consider the same is said about straight white males. Some hard work is done to get there.

Yes, they do operate in their own interests, which simply means WE should be doing the same. The amount of hatred for the jews is misplaced. Note, hatred isn't pointing out their overrepresentation, influence, etc. To be honest, I admire their tenacity. Imagine if the RVF operated as tight and family knit as jews do. Our influence would be incredible.

Zionism is a whole other animal.

Feldman does look pissed that we are pointing it out.

Post: #49

(12-31-2016 02:41 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Jews are overrepresented in media, finance, politics, etc , but how much of that is due to them being tight-knit? Consider the same is said about straight white males. Some hard work is done to get there.

Yes, they do operate in their own interests, which simply means WE should be doing the same. The amount of hatred for the jews is misplaced. Note, hatred isn't pointing out their overrepresentation, influence, etc. To be honest, I admire their tenacity. Imagine if the RVF operated as tight and family knit as jews do. Our influence would be incredible.

Zionism is a whole other animal.

Feldman does look pissed that we are pointing it out.

I have to agree, Jews over representation is due to a set of values, cohesion and hard work. Upper Middle Class and Middle Class Black people talk about this all the time when we get together privately. Literally we say we need to be more like Jews and promote education among our people, play the system, and work on our community as a whole. We don't want to go and oppress a group of people and create a homeland for Blacks only though, just uplift ourselves in America and end the school to prison pipeline. I feel that if you do not like Jews controlling the media, create your own media. If you don't like Jewish control of government, run for office or back a candidate. A lot of people here keep referencing the JQ (Jewish question), can someone illuminate me on the current usage of that term? I Googled it and all that came back were definitions from 1800-1959, I want to know it's current meaning so I can debate it in an informed manner.

As it currently stands for me I like Jews and individual Jews have helped me throughout my life. There are individual Jews I don't like, but that is true for all races and religions-there are individuals I do not like. More Jews have helped me than I can count on both hands. As for Israel -I am American so I do not give a fuck about them. They won a war so they can do what war winners do, if other countries do not like it then have another war. I do not think America should give them money or aid, if they want weapons let them buy them from us-they are Jewish they have plenty of money. I don't like Bibi because I find him belligerent and chauvinistic when on American soil and he should be more respectful.

Post: #50

(12-31-2016 02:41 PM)armenia4ever Wrote:  Jews are overrepresented in media, finance, politics, etc , but how much of that is due to them being tight-knit? Consider the same is said about straight white males. Some hard work is done to get there.

Yes, they do operate in their own interests, which simply means WE should be doing the same. The amount of hatred for the jews is misplaced. Note, hatred isn't pointing out their overrepresentation, influence, etc. To be honest, I admire their tenacity. Imagine if the RVF operated as tight and family knit as jews do. Our influence would be incredible.

Zionism is a whole other animal.

Feldman does look pissed that we are pointing it out.

Its a knee-jerk reaction. Anytime we mention the Jews in any conversation, the conditioning done by the media and culture in general automatic assumption of antisemitism. Problem with this reaction is prevent honest criticism of problems cause by someone that is Jewish.