Post: #101

(01-01-2017 04:39 PM)Lika Wrote:  yeah well, mike Cernovich still tried to (((silence))) the Jewish question to become mainstream alt right:

"JEWISH QUESTION stupid man!
You are listed as featured guest
Fucking act like it man
No more Fuck ups...
No JEWISH QUESTION bullshit"

kosher/://www.occidentaldissent.com/2016/12/27/mike-cernovichs-deploraball-now-100-kosher/

1. Learn to post a link.
2. Use better sources.
3. Wrong.

Post: #102

(12-31-2016 04:32 PM)redbeard Wrote:  

(12-31-2016 04:21 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  The movie Silenced was ok. So that means better than average -- good for Mike.

It was mainly down to the people they managed to snag for interviews.

I went to film school and have been making indie movies for over a decade. Also, I love cinema to death.

The way Silenced was shot, lit, and edited is worse than the work I saw from teens in film school days. Mike could have gone on Mandy.com and picked almost anyone and got a similar-better "director".

If anyone wants to be part of a movement or belief system, it is an absolute death knell to accept mediocre work just because they are on "our side". It's nice to support friends, but we should demand excellence out of our art/culture.

For the sake of discussion - what would you improve about the movie?

I watched it, I liked it, but I'm not burning DVD copies and handing it out to my friends. There were parts that were boring and repetitive.

There were a few parts that should have gotten more attention, like Pax Dickinson. I had no idea who this guy was, and when they introduce him they do this big cutscene with exciting music and nature shots. High energy! His segment was too short whereas they gave time to others that didn't contribute much.

It needed more comedy. One of the main themes of this election was "making republicans fun again," and this movie was not fun. It should have been! The only laughs were from Anthony and Gavin.

The lighting and the backgrounds were mostly boring and ugly (some exceptions). Style and framing were inconsistent (you mentioned the Pax sequence, which -- although stylish -- stood out like a sore thumb compared to some of the other interviews).

Most subjects were not placed with any depth in the rooms they were in. There were conspicuous hot spots on some of the walls, and then in other scenes there would not be enough light on the subject and the under-exposure would leave an ugly video grain (under-exposure can be beautiful if you bring up the general light level enough and control your contrast -- see Godfather II for a great example of this).

Some of the questions were daft, the responses were vapid, and the truly interesting people only got small moments on screen. These criticisms are harder to tell if they should be directed at Mike or Loren.

Frankly, it just looked inconsistent, bland, and low-rent. Luckily the theme and the subjects themselves were mostly interesting. So that's why I say it wasn't a bad film, but Loren is a poor filmmaker, lacking in craft and the intangible soul stirring element that makes for great artists.

I would instead call this a passable Youtube video. These are Youtube filmmakers. It is what it is.

And for the record, I shared this opinion with Ghost Tiger privately, long before Loren had this latest meltdown.

Post: #103

(01-01-2017 12:42 PM)Ghost Tiger Wrote:  This Feldman guy is radioactive. I didn't see it mentioned yet so I wanted to make sure you guys knew about his "Tech Nigga" controversy that got him dropped like a rock by Verizon.





After that debacle, he issued a public apology:





He is a drug addict with poor impulse control. Cerno should fire him.

Holy shit, what?

I was unaware of this. If I had been, frankly, I wouldn't have plopped down money for Silenced. Fuck.

What is with the manosphere guys picking shitty partners in film?

First Aurini/Owen now Cernovich/Feldman?

The Aurini/Owen partnership stunk to high heaven from the get-go and is why I never put any money toward that. Feldman was always "off" to me, but I wanted Silenced and Cernovich to be successful so much I overlooked it.

Well, fuck me.

Post: #104

^^ Can confirm. Yeah I didn't like it either. Too Jewy. I loved Dershowitz but I wanted to see more of Weev, Ricky Vaughn, and Vox Day and I'm certain Feldman kept their segments short because of their well-known tendencies to engage in "questioning" Jewish cultural influence in western civilization. Many of the other Jewish interview subjects were superfluous and contributed nothing. I particularly disliked the rabbi who had the unwarranted privilege of the final segment and I found him whiny and offensive.

Roosh was conspicuous by his absence and I appreciate the further insight he has provided in this thread. Feldman clearly doesn't like Roosh, and that is probably why he excluded him from the film, and it's safe to assume that Roosh's well-known "questioning" of (((tribal))) influence contributed heavily to Feldman's attitude towards Roosh. Feldman is clearly being (((tribal))).

Like Roosh, I also contributed $100 to the Kickstarter and I agree with Roosh that Feldman let us backers down. TooFineAPoint's analysis is lucid and he is eminently qualified to provide it. Cerno would have been much better served by TooFineAPoint as director.

Post: #105

I met him at a Gorilla Mindset seminar, I asked him what did he do (at the time I had discovered part of the sphere the day before) he mumbled something and walked away, and that was that.
Where these guys are failing at (Baked Alaska, Loren) they don't evolve, they think that hate speech is the golden goose, well, when you're in a platform you don't own people can get you silenced(no pun intended).
Trump is going to be like any other politician always subserving elites. People fell for the ultimate underdog storyline and think this will be different( it never is).
Much success this year to all you guys.

Post: #106

Mike tweeted next film will be solo directed / produced, looks like Loren got fired.

Post: #107

For any young guys that post only in the newb section, lurk, or just a student right now. Listen carefully.

See all this need for skillsets in the Manosphere? See how we will need all kinds of professionals to help us do things?

Big picture wise, I don't see any drama.

You know what I see? A business opportunity.

There is always opportunity during chaos.

Start thinking bigger and put yourselves into position to benefit and still add value to the entire community. A while back Roosh needed video production help. You guys helped him out. Now Mike needs movie/documentary help. Tomorrow someone else may need a communications director or a producer.

Instead of trying to figure out whose daughter here guys want to marry, we need to put our heads together and rub some nickels. Guns are not the only thing needed to win wars, we need our finances stronger in general. Some of us are working on stuff in the background business wise, but until more surfaces, work on your skills and tradecrafts. Those may be the things that make you location/financially independent. There is no telling what we will need in the coming years.

Post: #108

From what is can tell, it helps Mike in the long run.

He has plans to run for senate down the line and he wants his brand to be associated with TRUMP.

One thing is certain in life, regarding of how "alpha" you are, there will always be someone who will fuck you over.

Post: #109

(01-02-2017 09:30 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  For any young guys that post only in the newb section, lurk, or just a student right now. Listen carefully.

See all this need for skillsets in the Manosphere? See how we will need all kinds of professionals to help us do things?

Big picture wise, I don't see any drama.

You know what I see? A business opportunity.

There is always opportunity during chaos.

Start thinking bigger and put yourselves into position to benefit and still add value to the entire community. A while back Roosh needed video production help. You guys helped him out. Now Mike needs movie/documentary help. Tomorrow someone else may need a communications director or a producer.

Instead of trying to figure out whose daughter here guys want to marry, we need to put our heads together and rub some nickels. Guns are not the only thing needed to win wars, we need our finances stronger in general. Some of us are working on stuff in the background business wise, but until more surfaces, work on your skills and tradecrafts. Those may be the things that make you location/financially independent. There is no telling what we will need in the coming years.

Job Board Thread

Post: #110

(01-01-2017 02:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(01-01-2017 02:15 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Looks like the Mike is fed up with him too and plan to do his next documentary solo.

Mike did the right thing. We don't know which specific position Loren had that caused Mike to fire him, but I consider this issue resolved and hope Mike's next documentary goes well.

Another, just as likely a possibility - this is just Spin - and Mike was cut off the powers that be for bending the knee to Spencer, and possibily Mike's increasingly-erratic behaviour in multiple deleted periscopes that have been archived over the last couple of days on various sites that have me genuinely-worried for his mental state, whatever is actually happening behind the scenes.

Maybe he just needs to take a break for a week or two and concentrate on his new child. Babies are great to give you a sense of perspective and balance. There'll still be media to slay after the 20th. Enjoy the precious moments, reset and relaunch with a clear head.

Post: #111

^
Good, bad or ugly.
All actions have consequences.

Post: #112

This episode is a micro-cosmos of the the coming fight between America firsters and Israeli firsters among the members of the Trump Adiministration and the national wide supporters who voted for him. Those gratuitous rants against Iran and China and unconditional shows of love with Bibi are going to cost Trump a lot and are in colition course with Russia.

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Post: #114

No, he left the two where he's talking about people being "Jew haters".



Lots of posts talking about Israel in a less-than-super-positive way still exist. I wonder when those will disappear.

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Post: #117

Cernovich whines about the media bias against whites...

Cernovich whines about people raising the jewish question...

Post: #118

When Chimpanzee Consciousness goes wrong
This guy really, REALLY needs to work on his lisp

Post: #119

^ Completely unnecessary.

When there's no more dragons left to slay, crusaders invent new ones or turn on each other. It's been going on in the left for decades, where they invent new problems to stay relevant, or turn on each other (feminists v trannies). It's now happening with the new right, especially with all these egos.

Post: #120

You understand Mike was a pillar of the RVF community who contributed to this forum for many years right?

Post: #121

Of course, there are plenty of dragons left to slay.

What's missing is leadership. All of the alt-whatever leaders sort of accidentally ended up in leadership roles but it's pretty clear damn few if any of them had a long term plan. This is a campaign, and winning the 2016 election was just one of the opening battles.

Unfortunately nobody with significant influence on the non-cucked right seems to know what to do now, or how to manage the troops between fights.

Post: #122

I've used the "herding cats" analogy elsewhere.

The alt-right doesn't have troops to lead. What it has is something approaching a foul mouthed near-omniscient AI with MPD that floats around the internet obliterating anything it senses has an ego.

Post: #123

(01-06-2017 08:26 AM)Gmac Wrote:  You understand Mike was a pillar of the RVF community who contributed to this forum for many years right?

He doesn't past the purity test for ideal alt right ubermensch: gay white male interested in to other white males in accordance with AB's research.

I'm newibe in sense, but I know MikeCF's contribution to the forum for years. His missteps he iss making right now are prime targets to bunch a fucking gamma with nothing better to do. We all make mistakes as human beings for are imperfect by nature. Give him some space and help the man out if you have the skills and talents he needs.

(01-06-2017 08:32 AM)weambulance Wrote:  Of course, there are plenty of dragons left to slay.

What's missing is leadership. All of the alt-whatever leaders sort of accidentally ended up in leadership roles but it's pretty clear damn few if any of them had a long term plan. This is a campaign, and winning the 2016 election was just one of the opening battles.

Unfortunately nobody with significant influence on the non-cucked right seems to know what to do now, or how to manage the troops between fights.

Lack of define leadership was one of the advantages for Alt Right against the media and other leftist groups by denied an centralized target to subvert and smear. Right now we are seeing that problem of lack of leadership and competing ideologies at play. Here is to hoping that left starts attack to give something for the alt right to rally against.

Post: #124

(01-06-2017 08:26 AM)Gmac Wrote:  You understand Mike was a pillar of the RVF community who contributed to this forum for many years right?

That's what makes it worse. I hated on Mike in the Mike appreciation thread, saying something like "he's the type of snake who would stab you in the back for book sales". I immediately regretted my statement, and later came around to admiring and respecting Mike and his accomplishments.

Then this happens.

I really wanted to be wrong, but it seems like I was vindicated in the end.

Post: #125

(01-06-2017 08:26 AM)Gmac Wrote:  You understand Mike was a pillar of the RVF community who contributed to this forum for many years right?

I know that, but I'll have to disagree with the "he made some good stuff, therefore immune to critisism" thinking. Old timers and contributors may get a certain amount of leeway for straying, but they shouldn't be above getting checked. I know you're in contact and working with Mike and I wish you well, but that dude's actions are leaving behind a bad taste.