Post: #476

^"Clean up in isle 6."

Considering the force it would take to bend rebar reinforced concrete in an open setting like that, I can't even begin to imagine what weapons like that would do to human bodies.

This is surely Erdogan's Reichstag fire, the implications of which being no less grand.

Post: #477

Now for the purges

Post: #478

Claims Erdogan set this in motion days ago:
   

Post: #479

That would explain why things seemed so poorly planned. They could have been reactive.

Post: #480

Turkish media claim the coup masterminds have been identified.

Post: #481

(07-16-2016 01:30 AM)AneroidOcean Wrote:  I'm watching this feed below and I can't believe how fucking idiotic these guys are. It's complete mob idocy. Some guys are trying to break into an armored vehicle to kill the pro-coup soldiers, some are trying to break into the anti-coup police armored vehicle, all of them are acting like complete fucking idiots.

What the hell is going on with Turkey. How can a country with the technological infrastructure to stream high quality video have so many men acting like deranged savages?

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1zqJVzyPeZdJB

You seem to think we don't have those same savages here in the US. Except here we call them "Black Lives Matter" supporters.

Post: #482

   

Imagine if he tried to take the nukes.

   



   
(KC-135 Stratotanker is a military aerial refueling aircraft)
   
   
   
   

   
'Nato Commander of NATO Incirlik AB and 4 other drivers were arrested for coup attempt.'

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Base now running off backup generators.

Post: #483

How do we know Erdoğan didn't plan this whole coup himself ?

The whole thing smells like a one big false flag to consolidate power, suspend the rule of law, and remove his rivals.

Post: #484

Breaking:

http://www.dw.com/en/us-turkeys-incirlik...a-19404844

Quote:US: Turkey's Incirlik air base used to fight 'IS' is sealed off, power cut

The US consulate in the southern Turkish city of Adana says the facility has been placed in lockdown. The base is used by the US-led coalition to launch airstrikes against "Islamic State."

A message on the website of the US consulate in Adana Saturday said "local authorities were denying movements on to and off of Incirlik Air Base." It advised US citizens to avoid the air base until normal operations had been restored.

The sealing-off of the facility, which houses as many as 80 nuclear bombs, follows a coup attempt by a faction within Turkey's military a day earlier.

It is unclear whether aircraft from the base were hijacked by coup plotters during the overnight events. According to Turkish government officials, the jets were used to attack key buildings, including the parliament building in Ankara.

The base is used mostly by the US, Turkish, UK and Saudi air forces. Germany has also deployed some 400 soldiers to the facility as part of NATO operations against IS.

Earlier this month, German MPs were prevented from visiting the base in an ongoing spat between the Berlin and Ankara governments.

Also on Saturday, the US State Department warned American citizens against taking part in a pro-Erdogan demonstration in the city of Adana later in the day, amid fears of violence. Adana is just 10 kilometers (6 miles) from the Incirlik Air Base.

Post: #485

˄ Already posted that one.

Just saw this:
   

Can't find any other sources. Can anyone confirm if a statement along those lines has been made (Re. US-Turkish Relationship)?

If this escalates will NATO eject Turkey (or they will eject themselves )?

Post: #486

One interesting thing:

One of the members of the coup is the pilot which intercepted and destroyed a Russian fighter over Syria last year, according to the major of Ankara. He (the pilot) was a member of Gulen's organization.

Post: #487

(07-16-2016 09:34 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Can't find any other sources. Can anyone confirm if a statement along those lines has been made (Re. US-Turkish Relationship)?

If this escalates will NATO eject Turkey (or they will eject themselves )?

We've seen "news" from that twitter account dozens of times and it's always bullshit.

Post: #488

To the surprise of no one who was monitoring the situation, the coup happened days after several strong statements from Turkish side about making piece and pivoting towards Russia. The reports that KC135R was used, the complete silence from White House until it was clear that the coup failed, and the fact that the military was split on the action is additional proof that this was a pro NATO coup and not a "genuine secular military guardians" coup.

It feels weird supporting Erdogan, but we all know the future of countries that got rewarded with U.S. backed coups, and the world does not need another failed state the size of Turkey.

Post: #489

(07-16-2016 09:46 AM)Space Cowboy Wrote:  

(07-16-2016 09:34 AM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  Can't find any other sources. Can anyone confirm if a statement along those lines has been made (Re. US-Turkish Relationship)?

If this escalates will NATO eject Turkey (or they will eject themselves )?

We've seen "news" from that twitter account dozens of times and it's always bullshit.

Yes its a 50:50 ratio at best on that feed.

EDIT: Closest I can find (RT):
   

- which is a bit more specific than the other ideological sounding statement.

Post: #490

(07-16-2016 09:50 AM)FilipSRB Wrote:  To the surprise of no one who was monitoring the situation, the coup happened days after several strong statements from Turkish side about making piece and pivoting towards Russia. The reports that KC135R was used, the complete silence from White House until it was clear that the coup failed, and the fact that the military was split on the action is additional proof that this was a pro NATO coup and not a "genuine secular military guardians" coup.

It feels weird supporting Erdogan, but we all know the future of countries that got rewarded with U.S. backed coups, and the world does not need another failed state the size of Turkey.

Interesting sidenote is how US began ordering families of US troops and diplomats to leave Turkey a couple of months ago:
   
Twitter dates this as Jul 15 but actual article shows Mar 29.

Post: #491

I don't usually believe in false flags, and generally the explanation that the secular army saw Erdogan as a threat and increasingly hostile muslim, but could it be a strategy to foment consolidation and a new support for caliphate either way?

I don't see this ending well for Turkey. It's like Pharaoh's heart (Erdogan) has been hardened ...

Post: #492

Turkey will be ISIS controlled territory very soon now. Erdogan already was one of their biggest allies, it's just a matter of time before it's official.

Post: #493

Wait so there's a base with dozens of live nukes in Turkey and Obama is the fucking person in charge?

I'm hoping they stay under control until an adult can take charge of the situation.

Post: #494

(07-16-2016 10:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Turkey will be ISIS controlled territory very soon now. Erdogan already was one of their biggest allies, it's just a matter of time before it's official.

Now you're scaring the crap out of me, Samseau.

That's a big prediction, and you don't have a reputation for being wrong.

That said, maybe such an outcome is actually for the best. Thinking about it, it would force the west to harden their borders and it would be a serious blow to the plans of the globalists.

It's sadly getting to the point where ISIS is the lesser of two evils, in as much as it's open and honest about what it intends and how it plans to achieve it.

Post: #495

(07-16-2016 09:17 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  How do we know Erdoğan didn't plan this whole coup himself ?

The whole thing smells like a one big false flag to consolidate power, suspend the rule of law, and remove his rivals.

Right. Only a few hours to identify every judge and mil leader not loyal to this sociopath ? How convenient.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-16...s-hundreds

Post: #496

(07-16-2016 10:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  Turkey will be ISIS controlled territory very soon now. Erdogan already was one of their biggest allies, it's just a matter of time before it's official.

I also have a feeling that something like that will happen.

And that will be their undoing, in the long run, because...a lot of parties want back their lands that Turkey took from them - Greeks, Kurds, possibly Armenians... .

Post: #497

Anyone know SOP for a US military base holding nukes that's about to fall to the enemy?

Not saying this is the case in Turkey, just curious.

Post: #498

(07-16-2016 10:19 AM)philosophical_recovery Wrote:  Wait so there's a base with dozens of live nukes in Turkey and Obama is the fucking person in charge?

I'm hoping they stay under control until an adult can take charge of the situation.

(07-16-2016 10:52 AM)Mike5055 Wrote:  Anyone know SOP for a US military base holding nukes that's about to fall to the enemy?

Not saying this is the case in Turkey, just curious.

Stanley Kubrick predicted a nuclear war starting exactly in this sort of scenario in 1964.

Post: #499

George C Scott's expressions make that scene.

I'm waiting for the Obama defense of being recklessly careless with nukes.

Post: #500

I just don't understand the perspective of the average pro-coup soldier.

You decide to support a coup. You have guns and tanks and helicopters. You fight for like 12 hours or less. You and dozens of your fellow soldiers surrender to civilians with no guns to be tortured and executed in some shithole Turkish prison.

It makes no sense to me.

There's a random pic I saw earlier with lack 20 uniformed soldiers huddled in the middle of the street while some random guy hits them with a belt.

Why?