Post: #1

Basically this colombian girl was dating this spanish guy in Spain. She told him that she had a child in Colombia and she did everything to bring him over to Spain. She brings her child to Spain and after 6 months of dating, they break up, she didn't want to know about this child and leaves this guy with her child. The guy didn't want to send the kid back to Colombia because he knew the kid wouldn't have a future there. The kid was 8 at the time, now the kid is 15.

This guy was 28 when he started raising this child. He says that if any woman wants to seriously date him, they need to accept his child and he says many women didn't want to settle down with him because he had a child. He is a friend of a friend.

I am thinking to myself. Wasn't this guy just taken for a sucker?

The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.

What do you think? What would you guys have done in that type of situation?

More details: 4 days after this kid arrived in Spain, his mother went to party till 6 in the morning and left this guy taking care of her kid. The guy said that he used to take the kid to school, feed him on the daily basis and he got used to the kid and couldn't leave him. After months of dating, even when things were not going well between the couple, he did all he could to stay in the relationship because of the kid.

I mean, this sounds like this chick met a really nice guy and completely took advantage of him.

Post: #2

(03-13-2016 06:22 PM)pitt Wrote:  What do you think? What would you guys have done in that type of situation?

Not get anywhere near some other man's leftovers in the first place, the mother nor the child.

If that's not an option to this hypothetical, the kid gets discharged to Spanish authorities. Barring that, leaving him in front of the nearest police station and sprinting away.

I wouldn't want to waste airfare on the kid, and I doubt airlines would let an 8 year-old fly without express consent of a parent, anyway.

Other people's bastard spawn are not my problem.

I avoid single moms like the plague they are.

I warn many of the latinas I come across that, if someday they get pregnant by some other guy, that's the day we stop talking. Not even "hola"s through WhatsApp para ti, just two blue check marks. Unless you have smokeshow childless amigas to point me to.

Post: #3

Maybe the guy really cared for and loved the child as a Father would a Son?

Also, as much as the boy needed him, he might have needed the boy. Raising a Son gives you purpose, and maybe he was lacking that before but found it in becoming a parent.

Post: #4

If I had the means, I think I might be ok with providing and guiding a 15 year old who would surely have greater chances of success under me than in the care of the woman that abandoned him twice.

Im not saying that I would be willing to do it or that I find it acceptable. The guy was played for a fool. But its laudable that hes taking a younger fellow man under his wing.

Post: #5

What would I have done? Start dating other women. And not take all of that on in the first place.

Did the guy get "taken advantage of". I don't see how you can say that, he seems to want to be a parent and was more than willing to raise someone else's kid, but he should have made his own family, would have been better that way I would say.

Post: #6

Quote:She told him that she had a child in Colombia...

That's where he went wrong.
Giant red flag.
As soon as he heard this he should have dumped her.
But he preferred to get cucked.
No pity.

Post: #7

Unfortunately the guy is a sucker.

Dating a single mother is the worst mistake he has done.

Post: #8

(03-13-2016 06:48 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  

Quote:She told him that she had a child in Colombia...

That's where he went wrong.
Giant red flag.
As soon as he heard this he should have dumped her.
But he preferred to get cucked.
No pity.

I wouldn't jump to that conclusion so easily. Not all men are wired to fuck women on the weekends, leave kids to fend for themselves and go to other countries to fuck women there too.

He sounds naive.

If society had millions of men doing their own thing and saying "fuck it and fuck society" we would be in trouble. This kid now has someone who cares about him as a human being and lets be honest here, in Colombia as an only child he would have almost certainly fallen in with some gang and eventually become a narco or street mugger.

Post: #9

Is compassion beta?

Discuss.

Post: #10

As you know, lions live in groups called "prides" - one male, a few females and cubs. When the male gets old and weak and gets killed by another lion, the new male takes lionesses and, "gets rid" of the other male's cubs. "Getting rid of" here does not mean "expelling" or "sending them to a boarding school".

So, does that guy have a heart of a lion or a rabbit? How is raising another man's spawn beneficial for him? I am pretty sure the kid would want to find his biological father when he grows up. Is it beneficial for the society? The poor idiot gave up his chance to find a decent woman and have his own kids. Would his kids be of a lesser benefit for the society than this bastard?

Post: #11

(03-13-2016 06:22 PM)pitt Wrote:  after 6 months of dating, they break up, she didn't want to know about this child and leaves this guy with her child.

After 6 months? Sorry, but I'm not raising another man's kid after only knowing it for 6 months. It would be a different story if we were talking 6 years.

The kid was 8, it must know the names of family back home. I'd contact them, explain what happened, then track down the mother.

Post: #12

Can't fault the guy for being the proverbial 'good Samaritan'.

Yet that is a great deal of liability & responsibility where none actually existed, other than the guys conscience getting in the way.
Hell, the kids grandparents are more liable (if the biological parents are retards) before a random foreigner.

Post: #13

(03-13-2016 07:56 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Can't fault the guy for being the proverbial 'good Samaritan'.

Yet that is a great deal of liability & responsibility where none actually existed, other than the guys conscience getting in the way.
Hell, the kids grandparents are more liable (if the biological parents are retards) before a random foreigner.

That's true, but even the good Samaritan only paid for a few nights in a hotel and some basic medical care. Not 10+ years of putting his life on hold to become a single dad.

Post: #14

Cuckold

Post: #15

He's a sucker and an idiot. I agree it's not the kid's fault but the the responsibility to raise the kid wasn't his, it was the mother's or the mother's family. Like others have said, after the slut dumped the poor kid on him he should've gone to the proper authorities for the problem to be solved.

I don't get the "compassion" thing. Compassion? I owe my resources to my future progeny, partner and family, whoever they may be, not some parasitic slut and her kid from across the ocean who have nothing to do with me.

It just strikes me as another example of the third world taking advantage of suckers in the West and their "compassion", "pity", "sympathy" and "tolerance".

Post: #16

Maybe he's grooming the kid to be the perfect wingman.

Post: #17

Yes the woman most obviously saw him as a nice guy and took advantage of him. But calling this guy a cuck is too harsh in my opinion. We don't know enough about this guy's past experiences with woman to make such a critical judgement. It doesn't appear this guy envisioned another human being could use their offspring as a pawn in their own endgame. While many of us here know this is an all too true reality at times. I agree with the previous poster that said he's more naive than anything to get involved originally. We would have said hell no to the idea of a Colombian woman bringing her son along to our country but I just think this guy didn't know better.

Now on to the question about keeping the kid. For us here, it's words on a screen. For the guy in question, it was a living, breathing, 8 year old kid with feelings and a personality. He bonded and felt a connection to the kid. No fault in that. It just shows the guy has some compassion. That doesn't make him beta in my opinion just naive to get involved from the start.

Post: #18

Yes, a sucker.
I don't even begin to understand how he put himself into this ugly situation.

Post: #19

He fucked up for getting involved like others have been saying but men with good hearts and naive souls often get taken advantage of like this by women. Kicking the kid out right after would have been rough. He should have definitely turned the kid over to the authorities though.

No matter how much compassion he has raising a kid like that is still not a good idea. You never know when the mom might raise some international drama or try to use the kid as some kind of blackmail or leverage down the road.

Post: #20

Might be beta, but we need beta people in the world, who show compassion, empathy and care about people.

I'd hate to live in a heartless, uncaring alpha infested world....

Post: #21

(03-13-2016 06:22 PM)pitt Wrote:  The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.

Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.

Post: #22

Some of you are confused....

You seem to believe that a man can't be a good person who is compassionate, AND a beta sucker at the same time.

I assure you, you can be both a sucker, cuck, and beta, and still be a compassionate, honest, moral man.

Should this man be the butt of jokes and the subject of ridicule? No. But he shouldn't be admired either.

Recognize his mistakes, and don't put him on a pedestal anymore than you would a woman.

There's no doubt he's a "good" man, but there's also no doubt he's a loser in pragmatic terms.

Post: #23

Guy did a good thing adopting an abandoned kid. While it's not his problem, the kid will surely do better with the guy than in the spanish orphanage/foster system.

However, the original solution to the problem is:

1. Don't date single mothers.

The only lesson one needs to know here.

Post: #24

(03-14-2016 12:43 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(03-13-2016 06:22 PM)pitt Wrote:  The girls in my social group are all impressed with this story. I am seeing things from another perspective and thinking of the downside of altruism. I usually like to help people but I think this guy went over the top. Sacrificing his well being over the child of a slut. According to the pictures, the 15 year old boy looks like a cool kid but for fuck sake, I think this guy took the wrong decision.

Of course the women will say publicly what a nice man he is and how honourable he is for what he has done, the last thing they want is to be seen in a negative way.

Also, while they would all praise him and say they wish there were more men like him - the dude they choose to fuck acts nothing like him.

They want to believe that men like this are all around, waiting to support them once old age kicks them off the carousel.

Post: #25

I would have to say that I am nottaking care of any one's kids. Now I will not fault the woman if she was a widow, or something like that. But I would not put up with this kinda crap in my own country. Let alone some bitch from another country.

Ain't my problem. Find some other jerk.