Post: #251

Excellent episode of the Sunday Wire podcast with Patrick Henningsen, featuring a Christian British Syrian expat who became an officer in the Syrian Arab Army, he offers great insights into many aspects of the Syrian war as a veteran of the battle for Aleppo:

(his part starts at the 28:14 mark)

Episode #178 – SUNDAY WIRE: ‘The Professional’ with guests Patrice, Vanesa Beeley

It's followed by independent journalist Vanessa Beeley who is covering the French elections and other global politics issues.

Patrick Henningsen is an outstanding journalist, part of the 21st Century Wire site that has been targeted by the establishment for its consistently excellent debunking of the official narratives (21Wire is high up on the "fake news" shortlist) .

Post: #252

Buckle Up! New narrative is out.

Short of a week from WH announcing regime change is no longer part of its agenda in Syria, and as the Trump-Russia stories are dying out and Susan Rice story breaks out....

Rebels claim Syrian Army has gas-attacked Idlib.

Claim is almost immediately picked up by NATO-linked one man human rights observer ((( Ken Roth ))) , followed by ((( Michael Weiss ))), and yelled out by John McCain. Now all over the MSM, with Jake Tapper asking people to follow that 7-year old girl who is now in Turkey, Bana, for more info on Syria.

And of course, White Helmets happened to be exactly where the alleged bomb dropped and their operation got HD coverage doing rounds....

SAA has denied being involved, but MSM narrative is already written. This will be the new "Aleppo" for the next few days, expect calls for WH to ask for regime change, denounce cooperating with evil Russians in Syria....Shame that even half-decent pundit like Piers Morgan are falling for it.

yet, 2 weeks ago one of those moderate rebels blew himself up in Damascus killing 70+ and it got near zero coverage in MSM. Because of course lives in those living in regime-held areas, just like lives of Russian victims of terrorism in Spb aren't which isn't getting the attention of Western MSM.

Post: #253

^ Already achieving its objectives:

Post: #254

That sounds more like caving in to the narrative spun by the swamp screechers than keeping a clear head on the Syria situation.

Post: #255

(04-04-2017 03:02 PM)El_Gostro Wrote:  That sounds more like caving in to the narrative spun by the swamp screechers than keeping a clear head on the Syria situation.

That is true. They should have instead taken this opportunity to point out the real face of the "moderate rebels" and the danger of providing any assistance to them, and condemned the MSM for overlooking their crimes and jumping to conclusions about the SAA doing it even though there is no evidence to support that. Trump and Tillerson strangely made themselves sound a lot like Obama did back in 2012-2013.

Post: #256

The above proves the need to make awareness of jewish influence an absolute condition for every right wing political movement. There's no "sort of agree, but can we please not talk about it", it needs to be right out there in the open, so that every time some bs like this happens, the public responds with a fuck you AIPAC.

Post: #257

^

Netanyahu was also among the very first people to share the new photo and go on a rant on Twitter. Forgetting all the babies he killed in Gaza in 2014.

This is a very interesting story of the holes in the story. How come White Helmets are treating the victims WITHOUT gloves ? I smell Turkey/Israeli proxies behind this. They are the ones who stand to benefit most from it.

Brilliant satirical take from FearDept as per usual:

Post: #258

^ This shit is just too much. We're to believe Assad in winning the war goes out and uses Sarin gas on children. It's so stupid. The only reason people don't see through it is because they don't see who profits i.e. Israel and Saudi Arabia. Once you factor jewish interest into world politics, everything becomes clear and much less chaotic.

Post: #259

There's been a recent discovery of large oil deposits in the Golan area, which is Syrian territory occupied by Israel. The plan is carve out a small state adjacent to the Golan Heights, run by "rebels", who will receive some of the crumbs, officialize the Golan takeover by Israel, and keep fighting the Syrian army. The Rothschilds and Rupert Murdoch are key players in this, they own the action, through their company, Genie Oil.

You also have the same dynamic in the northeast of Syria, with the Kurds carving out a mini oil-state, they also are Genie Oil partners. The first step to carving up those states is to set up "safe areas", that's the Trump plan. That plan was viable while big cities like Aleppo were battlefields with hundreds of thousands of civilians caught in the middle and refugees fleeing. Putin threw a wrench into this plan by going all in with Assad and the Syrian army. Now that Aleppo has been liberated, there is no need for safe areas, hence the escalation into the recent false flag gas attack.

Isis and the other islamic death cults have been created and funded to create the kind of chaos and disruption which would lead to the balkanization of Syria and the implementation of the Oded Ynon Plan:



The US/Turkey/Israel/NATO have not really targeted Isis so far, they've made a lot damage to the infrastructure of cities controlled by the terrorists without really damaging their ranks, while simultaneously funding and arming them through backchannels. The terrorists have dug underground networks and are forewarned of the bombing runs.

We know that Isis hasn't been targeted because they have been moving in convoys shuttling to and from distant desert cities like Palmyra without cover, with complete impunity. And when the US/NATO did intervene recently in the battle of Deir Zor where the Syrian army had ISIS pinned down, they've targeted the Syrians for hours, killing many troops and breaking the SAA siege of the terrorists.

The expat Christian Syrian SAA commander lays it out in detail in that 21st Century Wire radio show linked above. Patrick Henningsen has had some great coverage of the situation there (great weekly Sunday Wire podcast)

The last podcast featured William Engdahl, who provided the perspective of the Syrian crisis as a war for oil:

http://21stcenturywire.com/2017/03/30/sy...n-heights/

Russia targeted ISIS, taking out their oil tankers. Russia shifted the balance of power, and with most Syrians backing Assad, it is only a matter of time before the islamic terrorist brigades get pushed all the way out of the country. The current US buildup is designed to take over the northern territories using the Kurds, before the Syrian army gets there.

Trump has a close relationship with Nethanyahu, so it remains to be seen if he's going to play the neocon game already in place and keep pretending to fight Isis, or if he's going to cooperate with Assad/Putin and really wipe them out. Tillerson's statement about Assad seemed like he might be leaning towards the latter, but it's too early to tell.

Post: #260

Invading Syria is one of those things that could turn Trump into a one-term President. Lots of tough talk but Trump should know better than to get involved in this mess. Syria will be Iraq on steroids if Russia is involved, no good can come of boots on the ground there. I seriously doubt Trump will do anything more than impose sanctions but invasion is off the table.

Our shity State department will most likely continue to fund the "moderates" in Syria. General Flynn being out of the picture is also very bad for peace in the Middle East as well.

I for one want to know what proof they have this chemical attack came from Assad. Sounds like bullshit to me, could have just as easily been ISIS or any other dozen Islamic fundamentalist groups.

Post: #261

I consider Breitbart a good indicator of what the average Trump voter thinks these days, they are certainly not Alt-Right and the vast majority on Breitbart call this false flag. It is too damn obvious, but that leaves the question of why Trump admin react like the do?

Post: #262

DailyMail.co.uk

Most popular comments:

Quote:If you're trying (again) to get us to believe that it was Assad, sorry, we don't believe you. He's winning this war, he has no need to use W.M.D.

Quote:With so many countries and secret services playing games in that country, the true culprits could be anyone.

Quote:What's more likely is the rebels were manufacturing chemical weapons and a bomb hit their factory, at this point in the war where government are gaining more control, why would they suddenly decide to disable themselves by giving other countries the right to condemn them?

Quote:False News yet again. The rebels know the Western Media fall for it time after time. They're losing the war & they want it to cease now before they are defeated completely without Syrian Annexation. As for the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights, one little man in a basement in Coventry with a beef against the Assad government

Thousands of likes for, very few against the above.

THE JIG IS UP.

THE GOYIM KNOW.

Post: #263

Why are Trump, Pence and Tillerson cucking? What the hell? We didn't elect them to be like this!

Post: #264

^Yeah, why not wait and see who in fact did this like a rational person? Is there any evidence this was Assad at all?

Post: #265

(04-05-2017 12:08 AM)godfather dust Wrote:  ^Yeah, why not wait and see who in fact did this like a rational person? Is there any evidence this was Assad at all?

I was waiting for this reply. I read up on something interesting recently related to this which is what I have been thinking all along.

We're dealing with non-rational people and organisations here, remember that.

Why would you suicide yourself for a religion? Why would you cut off heads? WHy rape and pillage those who are not of your religion?

Why would you be funded by Western super powers and your supposed enemies and then bomb them?

All of this is irrational thought and actions. WHy would a husband let his wife get fucked by different men? Cuck? Stupid? or how about irrational?

Its funny how the media jumps on this and the government too. Like a well- orchestrated hit on the Russians and Assad. By association Russia is bad!

The Uk has just re-affirmed its defense spending ties with the Saudis - Not a peep about what they're doing with those fancy new pieces of kit we spent billions on R&D or the technical personnel provided.

http://news.sky.com/story/uk-and-saudi-a...n-10825571

Quote:UK and Saudi Arabia set for closer defence ties despite 'human rights abuses' in Yemen

The PM says it is in the national interest to have good relations with Saudi Arabia despite its controversial human rights record.

What a shit show. Read that title with an open mind and then look around for stories and evidence of these same "changing" Saudis who deliberately bomb Yemen and civilians.

The problem with Assad is he isn't buying from us and he has oil we want, more specifically, what the Israelies * Gulf states want. We have already seen the EU take up offers from Israel to supply gas.

Trump was a road bump for the globalists. They have other means.

Post: #266

(04-05-2017 12:08 AM)godfather dust Wrote:  Is there any evidence this was Assad at all?

No. But of course Western politicians are all jumping at the chance of getting to accuse the Syrian government of committing war crimes.

I wonder if they seriously think the majority of people are buying this lie.

Post: #267

Now we have this garbage from Nikki Lena, holding up pictures of dead children and spouting aggro with Russia.





Trump is speaking in an hour or so, we'll see if he backs this up or not.

Post: #268

Peter Hitchens with a great article....good thing he leads a healthy lifestyle, so he won't die early.

Quote:It's WMD all over again. Why don't you see it?

Actually knowing something, remembering history or having experience of the world is becoming a disadvantage. How much easier it would be to join in with the flow of opinion about Syria, to listen happily to, and read contentedly, media reports on the subject.

As it is, I feel something close a physical pain as I do this.

Today’s frenzy over alleged use of poison gas in Syria is the 2017 version of Anthony Blair’s WMD in Iraq. Why can you not see it? Did you think they would do it in exactly the same way again? You are being assailed through your emotions, to act first and think long after, and far too late.

How *can* trained journalists (and experienced diplomats) be so lacking in the desire or ability to question what they are told? How come that they accept without hesitation reports which have not come from their own staff, but instead come from within terrifying war zones where gangs of fanatical murderers are the only law? One or two at least have the decency to refer to the new reports of gas attacks as ‘suspected’ or alleged, but most present them as established fact. ‘All the hallmarks’ means in such cases what? Though millions believe this has been proven, past accusations of gas use by Damascus have never been independently shown to be true.

Well, how can facts *be* independently established about such events? Not easily. Alas, that makes it appalling simple to make propaganda without ever facing serious checks .

The pressures on anyone communicating with western media from such places can only be imagined.

And then there is this simple point. Why would the Syrian government use gas at this stage in a war it has recently begun to win with conventional munitions? You don’t have to believe that the Assad state is saintly to ask this question, and I don’t believe that. Please see http://dailym.ai/2h1XZAv Carla del Ponte, for the UN, has in the past accused the *rebels* of gas use http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...s-use.html

Wicked and brutal they may well be, but they would have to be stupid and possibly mad to do such an thing, just as an important conference convenes in Brussels https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlar...il-2017_en to discuss the future of Syria.

The military advantages would be tiny . Chemical weapons have not been widely used since the 1914-18 war not because soldiers have been especially tender, but because, though very nasty, they are not an especially effective weapon of war. In the 1939-45 war, many barbarous things were done , especially by largely lawless nations such as Germany and Japan, and indeed by the USSR. But gas was not used.

The political and diplomatic disadvantages would be huge. If Syria could be shown ( as it has not yet been) to have used gas to kill children, it would mean total diplomatic isolation, and renewed calls in Britain and the USA (which only a few days ago abandoned its aim of overthrowing Assad http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...59266.html ) to intervene against Assad.

Well, here are some thoughts as to why this has happened now. This has come just as Russian policy in the area had begun to look successful. That would never do. Never underestimate the current desire in western foreign policy circles to increase hostility between Russia and the USA. It comes as Britain’s absurdly close and servile client relationship to the despotic and aggressive (ask a Yemeni) Saudi Regime is underlined by a visit to Riyadh by Theresa May. And it comes as Egypt’s tyrant General Sisi, who we are not allowed to call a military dictator, though he is, and whose forces gunned down hundreds of demonstrators in Cairo, visits Washington.

Two points occur. One, the western powers , by consorting with such people, demonstrate that their exaggerated disgust at the Assad government is selective and unreal. Two, they demonstrate that our continuing desire to be on good terms with Saudi Arabia lies beneath our whole foreign policy in this region. And which state loathes President Assad more than anyone? Why, Wahhabi Saudi Arabia, which despises Assad for his Alawite heresy, and hates him for his alliance with Shia Iran.

http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2...e-it-.html

Post: #269

Trump backed up that tough talk in his presser, going so far as to say that the events yesterday had changed his mind with respect to Syria and Assad. King Abdullah interestingly said though that Syria was a proxy war of several different actors with dubious priorities.

My hope for this is that Trump/Lena's talk is just that; the McCain's of the world and MSM will have to shut the fuck up. Trump sternly condemned Assad so there is nothing for them to cry outrage about. It also creates a position of strength for Trump to work from with respect to getting what he really wants with respect to Russia/Syria.

Post: #270

(04-05-2017 01:06 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  Trump backed up that tough talk in his presser, going so far as to say that the events yesterday had changed his mind with respect to Syria and Assad. King Abdullah interestingly said though that Syria was a proxy war of several different actors with dubious priorities.

My hope for this is that Trump/Lena's talk is just that; the McCain's of the world and MSM will have to shut the fuck up. Trump sternly condemned Assad so there is nothing for them to cry outrage about. It also creates a position of strength for Trump to work from with respect to getting what he really wants with respect to Russia/Syria.

Goddamn it Trump, what the fuck are you doing. If you are not planning to get involved in a clusterfuck in Syria, why go out of your way to "condemn" this manufactured nonsense and thus increase pressure on yourself to respond by in fact getting bogged down in a middle eastern clusterfuck. And if you are planning to fight against Assad and Putin in Syria despite your election rhetoric on the subject, then fuck you.

Post: #271

Trump will probably cuck on this. Too much pressure from AIPAC and other sources I suspect. Nikki Lena was actually highly praised by Jewish groups for her over-the-top sycophancy towards Israel. She was installed there for a reason and that is NOT to seek any kind of rapprochement with Russia.

I think we're gonna find Trump being stuck between a rock and a hard place on a lot of issues during his reign. He is up against a monster. Or it's possible that he never intended to have a sound foreign policy in the first place. Neocon ideology has permeated all levels of govt now, whether or not the neocons themselves are present in his administration. Hate to sound cliche but it is what it is....

My prediction is that he will throw us a bone every once in a while to appease his core base but that's about the best you can expect.

Post: #272

US forces are already on the ground in Syria and Iraq. If Trump does take a more serious action as a result of this then it takes a lot more than a simple change of government to stop the US industrial complex.

Post: #273

(04-05-2017 11:31 AM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  Now we have this garbage from Nikki Lena, holding up pictures of dead children and spouting aggro with Russia.





Trump is speaking in an hour or so, we'll see if he backs this up or not.

This is so fucking stupid, so if you get rid of Assad what guarantee do you have the next guys will be any better?

We got rid of Hussein and got ISIS. I don't think the public is gonna buy this.

Will the Democrats actually be useful? Will they speak out against war (because of their Trump hate)?

Going to war in Syria can only end with a nuclear exchange with Russia, not to mention the empowerment of the barbaric and savage ISIS.

Show PROOF Assad is using the chemical weapons, otherwise, I'm not buying this shit.

Post: #274

Quote:‘These heinous acts by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated’

Quote:US president Donald Trump has said his attitude toward Syrian President Bashar Assad has “changed very much,” after Tuesday’s alleged chemical attack in Idlib. In a joint news conference with Jordan's King Abdullah, Trump declined to say what his response will be, telling reporters that “militarily, I don't like to say where I'm going.”

Syria along with its gallant allies - Russia, Iran and Hezbollah will defeat this clown and his Zionist Jew and Saudi Wahabbi chums. Go Bashar Al Assad!! Go Syria!!

Post: #275

(04-05-2017 02:51 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(04-05-2017 11:31 AM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  Now we have this garbage from Nikki Lena, holding up pictures of dead children and spouting aggro with Russia.





Trump is speaking in an hour or so, we'll see if he backs this up or not.

This is so fucking stupid, so if you get rid of Assad what guarantee do you have the next guys will be any better?

We got rid of Hussein and got ISIS. I don't think the public is gonna buy this.

Will the Democrats actually be useful? Will they speak out against war (because of their Trump hate)?

Going to war in Syria can only end with a nuclear exchange with Russia, not to mention the empowerment of the barbaric and savage ISIS.

Show PROOF Assad is using the chemical weapons, otherwise, I'm not buying this shit.

Assad and his forces on the ground (SAA, NDF, Christian militias and Hezbollah) are wiping the floor with the Saudi and Western backed jihadis so why would he or the Russians use chemicals weapons. Like Ghouta back in August 2013, it was a phony crock of shit staged by the jihadis, later confirmed by a study carried out by MIT.

All you have to do is ask a very simple question, cui bono? It certainly isn't Damascus.