Post: #201

(04-02-2016 01:12 PM)Malone Wrote:  So if you care about what he says so little, then maybe don't read the thread about him? You could also try not writing giant walls of text about him.

That wasn't a giant wall of text.

My problem.

Is.

I use.

The space bar.

Too.

Much.

Post: #202

(04-02-2016 01:04 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  

(04-02-2016 12:54 AM)Latinopan Wrote:  

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This is Milo these days. Summed up in a gif.

The professional fabulous gay.

Wasn't he out there championing gamers just a few months ago? And a tech editor? What happened to all that stuff once he started getting really popular?

Links to articles at Breitbart are few and far between on his Twitter feed recently, although there are plenty of pictures of his hair and fan art and the people he is fucking, or at least claiming to fuck.

Even when he is making a good point about Trump, I cringe because it seems that his real point is making us listen to him call Trump "Daddy."

He has the same problem as the one well dissected over at the Tomi Lahren thread.

/thread-54745...63168.html

They are both attention whores, full flaming stop. It should twist our guts when we hear them, because even though they may seem to be endorsing views that are important to men in the modern world, their real communications come from their attitudes and their natures.

Lahren, the hot blonde with the petulant angry face, she is almost like kryptonite.

I knew, the first time I saw her that she was a bitch, but something about that skinny blonde look, man, if only she said or did something that made her seem cool. That would sooth my cognitive dissonance.

Wait, I like some of her talking points, watch me now, talk myself out of my gut instincts, and convince myself that she is anything other than a vitriolic skank.

Here's Milo. Supercilious and self congratulatory gay guy, not my kind of guy.

But wait, look at him now, destroying feminists on Prime Time news shows, maybe he isn't so bad. Crashing the Amber Rose Slut Walk. He could be a cool guy.

Maybe I don't mind him sneaking in comments about what kind of dick he likes or posting pictures of his food and his beauty regime.

No.

To both of them. They are using my appreciation of talking points and valid arguments to sell me their fruity fucking personal brands which is all they really care about in the end.

Fake reporters, fake commentators, fake champions of misunderstood men. Starting out getting support from a wide range of people by parroting talking points, and then, little by little, sneaking in their own idiosyncratic, stupid, self absorbed personality traits until that is all they have left, and they get away with it because it is gradual, and it started out so well.

Fuck all that. Fuck calling Trump fucking "Daddy."

This was how political correctness started too. How did things get so fucked up? It was incremental just like this. I remember the first time I heard the term "politically correct" like it was yesterday.

It was the early eighties, and my roommate at college was making a pretty good point about something, and he ended his dissertation on the issue by saying that, anyway, my view wasn't "politically correct."

And my gut twisted at that phrase, but I let it go because the point he was making before that was a good one.

He had talked me out of my intuition.

How the fuck was I to know that the point he was making would disappear in the mists of time, and the phrase would remain and metastasize into the monstrosity it is today?

Shit. This was at Berkeley during the inception of the term. If I had trashed him for using it I may have been able to stop "political correctness" cold in its tracks as an expression.

Like murdering Hitler when he was a baby.


But it was not to be.

I'm not saying it is some big conspiracy, or that these people are necessarily planning this individually to get their way, although they might be.

I am saying trust your gut always. Don't let people talk or shame you out of your intuition, ever, even if it seems like you are nitpicking or being difficult.

At the end of the day, or more accurately, at the end of the media appearance, like Tomi being about Tomi, Milo is about Milo, and I don't care if he perfectly expresses views I hold to a captive audience of the earth's population, my gut ain't buying it, and as he gets more popular, you won't hear him talking about anything that doesn't make him feel like Mommy's most favorite little boy.

Because that is what he is really about.

I agree with your suspicions in nature.

You make plenty of good points. If Milo has a meltdown and becomes a feminist like Ben Shapiro, I'll just shrug and think it was kind of inevitable.

That all being said, Milo seems heartfelt and genuine when he speaks in favor of men and men's rights, attention whoring aside. He fucks other men for goodness sakes. Why wouldn't he care about men?

He has made a very big case for why feminism does not represent his interests whatsoever.

Post: #203

Milo has his own podcast and he had Ann Coulter on this week.
"The Republican Party is full of pussies"
-Ann

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asvZnovFKb4

Also Latinopan, that post is really hard to read.

Post: #204

@debeguiled: I get what you're saying and you're probably right in that he does it because it gets him attention and he has found a niche he can make money off of. But there's no reason to believe that he doesn't also actually care about the issues. Most importantly, you need to stay focused on the goal here. This isn't about you or me being tricked into thinking positively about a person because of a facade they put up. It is a culture-war and the end goal is for us to win it. As of now, the SJW/leftist/progressive crowd is winning and we need to strengthen our ranks in order to regain the upper hand. Does that mean that we accept every imbecile to speak on our behalves? Obviously no, as that would make us look bad and thus contribute to us losing further control over the narrative.
What Milo is ultimately motivated by or what he might turn into later on is of little relevance. I, too, don't find it optimal to have a gay dude who constantly posts degenerate stuff be one of our most prominent frontmen. As others have already explained, it is in their nature to make it about themselves which can potentially cause trouble for us in the long run. Also, I don't care what people do in the privacy of their bedrooms but making this whole homo-stuff such a huge part of his persona shows that he does have quite some issues. It's degenerate and as such shouldn't be this strongly associated with the cause.
However, you can't deny that he's very good at what he does and so far, he has helped us a lot. Him being gay is very helpful in this as he has some kind of immunity because of it and maybe this was the one attribute that helped him spread our ideas as far as he managed to do. And I'm thankful for him because of it. I don't care about his motives as long as he's having a positive impact on the culture war. As soon as that changes, I will have zero problem with dropping him in an instant, but being this picky with our allies, as you advocated, will do us no good.

Post: #205

@Requiem

Points taken. My post was more of a polemic than a long view on the culture war, and my main point was to trust your gut because other people with their own agendas are great at talking you out of it.

Also, I really like a lot of Milo's talks and appearances on news shows and at college campuses, and looking at his output lately, it has skewed more towards self worship and less towards the issues, and that is a disappointment more than anything else, precisely because he is so sharp and clever and funny and when he thinks on his feet he can beat most people in a tv setting.

That is why it is frustrating to see him, like women or SJWs do, slowly sliding away from the issues and more towards self worship. You see this dynamic again and again with many people who get any sort of widespread attention.

"Oh, I have a platform, guess it's time to talk about me, personally, intimately, people must really like me, so now I'm gonna abandon what got me here, and just chat a bit about me."

I am happy people are out there battling the harpies, Milo included, and was not making any sweeping prescriptions with my post other than to trust your intuition.

My gut has a special cringe when he calls Trump "Daddy," and, to coin a phrase, I stand by it.

Post: #206

I agree that Milo's sexuality is offensive. But I also think that it is important to note that he agrees. If you watch his Joe Rogan interview you may note that, when Rogan corners Milo over the contradiction between being Catholic and gay, Milo admits that he considers his homosexuality to be an imperfection and that he could improve himself if he were to ever achieve heterosexuality.





Rogan is a great interviewer and I think he got some truth out of Milo on the subject of Milo, which is rare. Most of the time when Milo is talking about himself he's just being cheeky, doing what the British call "taking the piss". When I saw him live at the University of Michigan, I saw him in a candid moment refer to himself as "just an internet shitposter". It reminded me of Roosh during his historic post-meetup press conference when he said, "I was just a guy with a blog." It was the same level of candid humility. I think Milo is just mugging for the cameras and sure, he's having a great time, but the key to his personality is that he isn't in this for the money. My profile of him is that he has never had to worry about money as his father seems to be some sort of ethnic Greek mafia character in the UK (which would explain Milo's daddy issues). Milo doesn't take a cent in speaking fees for the tour he is currently on and he routinely donates YUGE swaths of his time just greeting and kibbitzing with his ever-expanding fan base. I saw it in Ann Arbor with mine own eyes. The man's generosity is saintly. And he works soldier hours. That earns a lot of rep with me. Another candid moment came when I was in line to meet him and the guy in front of me had on a Milo T-shirt so Milo asked me to take a picture of them standing together. Once the shot was taken, Milo had to ask the other guy for help sending the pic to someone else (some guy called Pizza Party Ben). So I laughed out loud because Milo is the senior editor of the "tech" vertical at Breitbart and he gained his early credibility writing and editing a tech blog called The Kernel before eventually selling it. Milo shot me a look when I laughed and I said, "Oh sorry! Do you need tech support Milo?" Milo then put on a clownish frown and lunged at me while hissing, "I WANTED TO BE A THEATRE CRITIC!" To which the crowd laughed heartily. Anyway... the point is I believe Milo has a much greater degree of humility than his online clown persona might lead you to believe, and he definitely has more humility than these here-today-gone-tomorrow "allies" like Christina Hoff Sommers. I don't think Milo will turn Judas and disappoint. I think he is a genuine ally and he will do a lot of real work to help our cause. In a way, like a typical Catholic, I think Milo is seeking forgiveness in his own unique fashion.

Post: #207

Quote:Rogan is a great interviewer

Gonna disagree with that because Joe cut off Milo at every sentence and then had the gall to follow it up with "We shouldn't be talking over each other".

Especially maddening when they are talking about religion and Milo tries to explain its cultural and historical significance, which is undeniable regardless of whether you believe in anything or not, and Joe acts like a 13 year old that just found out about atheism.

I don't mind Rogan since he's still on the good side but intellectually they're not even close to being in the same league.

Post: #208

So in a somewhat sinister twist, Milo didn't appear at his scheduled tour stop in Houston last night, and hasn't tweeted for 24 hours. Both pretty ominous - as one of the Twitter commentators pointed out, he's both too professional and too diva to miss one of his own events.

The hosting org has a Facebook post apologizing for him not showing up and mentioning that they tried to contact him:

https://www.facebook.com/UofHCR/?fref=nf

Post: #209

Hmmm. I'm sure it's probably 'flu-like symptoms'.

Post: #210

He just posted on his Twitter

https://twitter.com/Nero/status/721013923772833793

Post: #211

I actually attended his talk in San Antonio which was about a day before Houston. He came out and the first thing he did was say he was sick and probably because he finally got AIDS from all his black gangbangs. He was being serious about the sickness and he looked pretty bad actually. Honestly I wasn't impressed by his talk either. I really only went because I found out the University hosting it was trying to do everything in it's power to make him not be able to host it. His talk was on microaggressions and his speech basically had no flow or structure at all and he cussed a ton which is something he basically never does in his writing or talks. It was basically, "did you hear about that thing at Yale, they're faggots. What about that thing at Missou, fuck them." For about 40ish minutes he kept going on like that. Then answered a few questions which all basically amounted to "Fuck them". Obviously people in here hate Shapiro but I prefer his intellectual arguments if I'm going to waste 2 hours of my day to go see someone. This forum discusses all those same issues when they pop up with much more depth.

Given that this is a Texan Christian conservative University that he did the talk at nothing happened protest wise that was exciting. They had one dyke chalking outside the event that Milo is a misogynist which was basically it. The crowd their was what you'd expect at a more conservative meeting. The guys were all fit and dressed well or they were cuckservative dadbod types. The women were pretty much all attractive, thin, and feminine. No tattoos or piercings seen. Most were wearing dresses and it was about 60/40 men:women ratio. What's suprising was the amount of elderly who showed up. I'd say like 20% of it were people who were 60+. It's hilarious to me imaging grandpas and grandmas reading Milo and his followers message which consists of /pol, alt-right shitposters.

Post: #212

(04-15-2016 12:41 PM)EuphoricWizard Wrote:  His talk was on microaggressions and his speech basically had no flow or structure at all and he cussed a ton which is something he basically never does in his writing or talks.

Say what now? His entire speech circuit is called the dangerous faggot tour.

He's always been a vulgar sarcastic Brit in everything i've watched him in.

If you are expecting some super formal and serious clean talk then you might have seriously wrong preconceived notions of him from the start.

Post: #213

He does make much more intellectual arguments without resorting to it. This entire speech was basically, Fuck SJWs. Fuck offended people. Fuck feminists. There was no depth or logic. His answers to the questions were the same. Just because he calls it the Dangerous Faggot tour doesn't means it his entire schtick.

Here's his latest article
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...mp-and-me/

Run a control F search and see if you find any. As most of his other articles, it's extremely rare and never makes up the entirety of his argument. Someone asked him, "Why should we hate all feminists when there are good ones who don't hate men and judge them all which is why some Conservatives/anti-feminists hate them. Then you have Conservatives who turn around and judge all feminists the same way you hate feminists for doing to men." His response was, "No fuck all feminists."

That kind of "argument" might do it for some people but to me that is no different then these SJWs who get interviewed at Trump protests.
Interviewer: "Why do you hate Trump."
SJW: "Because he's racist, Fuck Trump and all his supporters."

Post: #214

The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Post: #215

(04-15-2016 01:32 PM)EuphoricWizard Wrote:  Here's his latest article
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidenti...mp-and-me/

Run a control F search and see if you find any. As most of his other articles, it's extremely rare and never makes up the entirety of his argument.

His articles have always been pretty eloquent and the tone is different for a calculated reason. It's where he makes congent points and establishes credibility. Not to mention he bulletproofs his point of view from detractors because he can always point to pieces he's written before during his more loose debates.

The fact is that his public appearances are different for the most part for a reason too. Not many people want to sit and listen to a very dry debate no matter how good it is.

Like it or not Milo presents himself as a partial entertainer with his approach and why he's as popular as he is. It's stagecraft. He's an outrageous figure but with a sound intelligent mind. The whole "fuck you" thing might be a turn off for you but i'm sure a lot of people dug it.

With that being said i'm no Milo fanboy. I think he's entirely right on most of his points but I get the impression the biggest Milo fan is probably Milo. He's an incredibly narcissistic guy like most gay men but at least he has integrity about that.

Post: #216

(04-15-2016 02:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Someone speculated to me he's a liberal-backed operation to prime the new right to accept homosexuality and gay marriage.

I think he's genuine in his views and has helped the cause more than hurt, but the in-your-face homosexuality in all his content is definitely noticeable.

Post: #217

(04-15-2016 03:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 02:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Someone speculated to me he's a liberal-backed operation to prime the new right to accept homosexuality and gay marriage.

I think he's genuine in his views and has helped the cause more than hurt, but the in-your-face homosexuality in all his content is definitely noticeable.

The loudest applause he got at the event in a conservative Texas school was when he talked about how he's been trying to get AIDS from his gay orgies and how much he loves taking in black dick. Based on that I would probably believe there is some merit to the argument that he is trying to make the right more accepting of homosexuality and gay marriage. Some news article posted a while ago on Drudge talked about how some Republican Super pac/establishment types were pushing for gay marriage. It was a smaller source like Gatewaypundit so it's hard for me to find it.

Post: #218

He is hardly writing any articles anymore. I used to check his Twitter and find one every other day or so. Is he still a journalist? Or is he a speaker now? Or a personality?

Posting plenty of pictures, as well as gushing tweets from his fans. I see a lot of that. Plus pictures of the guys he bangs.

It seems like he is sincere in his defense of men and boys, and I don't think he will turn on us in his thinking.

Much more likely, he will just get distracted away from serious issues and become a professional MILO all the time.

Full time glamorous faggot.

Post: #219

(04-15-2016 03:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 02:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Someone speculated to me he's a liberal-backed operation to prime the new right to accept homosexuality and gay marriage.

I think he's genuine in his views and has helped the cause more than hurt, but the in-your-face homosexuality in all his content is definitely noticeable.

But Milo has actually repeatedly spoken out against gay marriage.

But the gay thing has definitely become more prominent. It used to be that he was seen as a right wing guy who happened to be gay while now he's a gay guy who happens to be right wing. I don't think there's a big conspiracy behind it though. He's probably just noticed that he can make more money easily with the whole cult of personality, selling his viewpoints to his fans and getting in on controversial topics where he can (Gamergate, refugees, Trump)

Post: #220

Post: #221

(04-15-2016 11:38 PM)atlant Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 03:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 02:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Someone speculated to me he's a liberal-backed operation to prime the new right to accept homosexuality and gay marriage.

I think he's genuine in his views and has helped the cause more than hurt, but the in-your-face homosexuality in all his content is definitely noticeable.

But Milo has actually repeatedly spoken out against gay marriage.

But the gay thing has definitely become more prominent. It used to be that he was seen as a right wing guy who happened to be gay while now he's a gay guy who happens to be right wing. I don't think there's a big conspiracy behind it though. He's probably just noticed that he can make more money easily with the whole cult of personality, selling his viewpoints to his fans and getting in on controversial topics where he can (Gamergate, refugees, Trump)

His use of in-your-face homosexuality is good shield against the left. It give some protect from the Left' tactics to discredit him. This article on the Raplh Retort explains how his gay umbrella can protect from attacks:http://theralphretort.com/feminist-weapons-of-mass-defamation-vs-master-milo-part-1-1016015/

Post: #222

Post: #223

(04-15-2016 11:38 PM)atlant Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 03:08 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(04-15-2016 02:16 PM)scorpion Wrote:  The interview with Rogan was interesting. Milo's a very intelligent, eloquent guy and hits most of the right notes as far as ideology goes, but his blazing faggotry is impossible to ignore. He himself even seemed conflicted about reconciling his shameless homosexuality with his traditional social and religious beliefs. It's as if he wishes he could renounce his faggotry but finds it too difficult to do so. He also seems to greatly enjoy being provocative for its own sake, which makes me question how firmly held his alt-right views really are. If one wants to truly be provocative in 2016 there's no space on the left. If Milo has some sort of attention whoring, provocateuring fetish then its inevitable he would be forced to trigger people with what are the only remaining controversial views of the day: right wing real talk.

Overall, I don't trust him. He might be a useful media figure to bludgeon leftists with, but in no way should that qualify him, a literal attention-whoring faggot, to be regarded as a leader of the alt-right.

Someone speculated to me he's a liberal-backed operation to prime the new right to accept homosexuality and gay marriage.

I think he's genuine in his views and has helped the cause more than hurt, but the in-your-face homosexuality in all his content is definitely noticeable.

But Milo has actually repeatedly spoken out against gay marriage.

But the gay thing has definitely become more prominent. It used to be that he was seen as a right wing guy who happened to be gay while now he's a gay guy who happens to be right wing. I don't think there's a big conspiracy behind it though. He's probably just noticed that he can make more money easily with the whole cult of personality, selling his viewpoints to his fans and getting in on controversial topics where he can (Gamergate, refugees, Trump)

It is entirely possible he's a plant for the liberal agenda to accept open, in your face fag behavior. That being said, it could also be that Milo is truly disgusted by his own homosexuality and is actually bright enough and mentally sane enough to know it causes self-harm, and harm to others. Consider it like porn for us straight men. We know that porn drains our energy and ultimately is a dehumanizing act for both men and women, yet as straight men, sometimes we fall into it, even though we as individuals would be better off without it. Perhaps Milo is in the same boat. We'll probably never know.

Post: #224

From a recent article, "Conservative Flame Thrower Milo Yiannopoulos Hits College Campuses":

Quote:Have you ever had sexual relations with a woman?

Of course. I sleep with one woman a year to make sure I don’t like it. I could have kids, a nice family, so I check once a year to make sure I’m definitely gay.

Sounds like he was joking, but that was a pretty funny answer.

Post: #225

(04-23-2016 09:19 AM)budoslavic Wrote:  From a recent article, "Conservative Flame Thrower Milo Yiannopoulos Hits College Campuses":

Quote:Have you ever had sexual relations with a woman?

Of course. I sleep with one woman a year to make sure I don’t like it. I could have kids, a nice family, so I check once a year to make sure I’m definitely gay.

Sounds like he was joking, but that was a pretty funny answer.

Out of joke, is not that rare for a open homosexual to fuck a woman now and then, lots of women whom only want a one night stand usually would fuck gays friends, and many women whom want kids but not want to have a guy would fuck a guy man and just use him as sperm donor.