Post: #2076

(12-06-2018 09:09 PM)EvanWilson Wrote:  If it wasn't roosh posting the message from Milo, I would have thought that it was a joke or something.

How and why could be be broke when all Milo needs to do is book appearances?

Plus, he got his book deal.

I just took a look at his book, Dangerous:

The hardcover version is rated around 20,000; so from I know of book sales, I am going estimate it is selling around 10 copies per day.
The kindle version is rates at 43,000 so I am going to estimate it is getting 2 downloads per day.
The audio version is in the top 100 in its categories, so I am going to guess at least two sales per day.

My estimate of the daily royalties are:
Hardcovers -> 10 x $20.00 x 17.5% = $35.00
kindle -> 2 x $9.99 x 70% = $13.98
audio -> 2 x $20.00 x 50% = $20.00

Daily estimate of royalties is $68 and monthly of $2,069.00

Now, that is not great, but it is income that he is getting if he just sits around in bed and does nothing all day.
With some promotion Milo could easily improve that number plus he has the whole speech circuit that he can do with the book helping the circuit and the speech circuit helping sales of the book PLUS Milo could easily follow up his book with another book.

Off topic, but this is a great breakdown for any young man out there who thinks he's going to write the next best seller. Milo is a Jewish homosexual who has had absolutely all kinds of media exposure and has been hustling for many years and after all that work he's s managed to secure a paltry $2k/month in royalties.

And you, young heterosexual goy living in the suburbs with no connections, think you're gonna make it big because you're a special snowflake?

Then just take a look at Milo. Or better yet, take a good look at Roosh and how many years of hustling and writing he's had to put in before finally breaking the Amazon 500 (only to be banned a day or two later).

Remember this: 99% of Amazon top 500 best-selling authors are establishment shills. And the top 100? 99.9%. Shills, hacks, propagandists and Langley writing committees.

Think 10 times before you look to writing/blogging/vlogging/"influencing" as your main source of income in the future.

Post: #2077

Blogging can be a GREAT source of income. You just need to be willing to shill the ideas that billionaires want spread.

Post: #2078

(12-07-2018 09:53 PM)Laconian Wrote:  Off topic, but this is a great breakdown for any young man out there who thinks he's going to write the next best seller. Milo is a Jewish homosexual who has had absolutely all kinds of media exposure and has been hustling for many years and after all that work he's s managed to secure a paltry $2k/month in royalties.

And you, young heterosexual goy living in the suburbs with no connections, think you're gonna make it big because you're a special snowflake?

Then just take a look at Milo. Or better yet, take a good look at Roosh and how many years of hustling and writing he's had to put in before finally breaking the Amazon 500 (only to be banned a day or two later).

Remember this: 99% of Amazon top 500 best-selling authors are establishment shills. And the top 100? 99.9%. Shills, hacks, propagandists and Langley writing committees.

Think 10 times before you look to writing/blogging/vlogging/"influencing" as your main source of income in the future.

So of Amazon's top 100 authors, 0.1 of them are not establishment shills? Respect to that guy's left shin or whatever body part that works out to.

Seriously though, I do worry about guys like Roosh being able to monetize their work. I think that self-publishing works when you already have a loyal fanbase in the tens of thousands, but for the author who is just an author, i.e. not a PUA blogger/vlogger, not an outgoing personality, but rather the archetypal literary author, the introverted, shut-in type, i.e. the next Kafka or Dostoevsky. Where is he supposed to come from? But then I guess the establishment doesn't want guys like that to even exist.

Post: #2079

The big problem with writing is that very few books make any amount of money to even help ones income out each month. As far as I can tell, I have seen amazon ratings of around 5 or 6 million, meaning there are at least that many works out there.

Part of the problem with platforms like Amazon's is that anyone can upload junk, publish it, and now there is another book out there. Many people fancy themselves as a writer, but turn out a terrible product, refuse to take any constructive criticism and self publish terrible work after terrible work.

BUT

There are a few, and Roosh is among them, that turn out a quality product which people notice and buy over time. While I am sure that Roosh does get a lot of early sales help with his following, it is the quality of the books that keep them selling over time. If Roosh turned out a bad book, after an initial sales spike people would stop buying and there would be all kinds of reviews advising people not to buy.

Post: #2080

I remember hearing a while back that Milo has a good singing voice but this is still somewhat mind-blowing....

Post: #2081

I guess this guy’s career is basically done. The fact that deplatforming worked so well on him despite his 2mil+ fan base is I think one of the things that emboldened the powers that be to go after everyone else.

Post: #2082

(01-28-2019 02:26 PM)rotekz Wrote:  I remember hearing a while back that Milo has a good singing voice but this is still somewhat mind-blowing....

Pretty sure he's lip syncing here.

Post: #2083

^^^Yeah, in a way. You have shots taken on phone of Milo recording the song in the studio being synced up with a finished mixdown that has no video element. It will look out of sync for that reason but I believe that he did actually sing what you hear there.

Post: #2084

(01-28-2019 03:02 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I guess this guy’s career is basically done. The fact that deplatforming worked so well on him despite his 2mil+ fan base is I think one of the things that emboldened the powers that be to go after everyone else.

True but some of the blame lies on himself too. As of now, I have no idea where he posts videos, where he post updates (like tweets), articles, etc..

Trying to find out I see he has Dangerous.com but it is painful to look at and off-putting.

Post: #2085

(01-28-2019 03:02 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I guess this guy’s career is basically done. The fact that deplatforming worked so well on him despite his 2mil+ fan base is I think one of the things that emboldened the powers that be to go after everyone else.

Deplatforming definitely hurts, but he still has Youtube, Facebook, Instagram, and his web site. He is simply not making good content. Look at the video he dropped today. That is not the kind of stuff that made him big in the first place. I don't think he cares anymore.

Post: #2086

He hasn't really made any content that he used to, that's for sure. Many of his recent ones are bitching about the shitty promoters he hired in Australia, and whining about Jordan Peterson. Those are not the things that made him popular to his fans.

Post: #2087

(01-28-2019 03:02 PM)Extinguished Light Wrote:  I guess this guy’s career is basically done. The fact that deplatforming worked so well on him despite his 2mil+ fan base is I think one of the things that emboldened the powers that be to go after everyone else.

(01-28-2019 08:13 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  He hasn't really made any content that he used to, that's for sure. Many of his recent ones are bitching about the shitty promoters he hired in Australia, and whining about Jordan Peterson. Those are not the things that made him popular to his fans.

I'd say another simple factor is. When there are so many options & it is so easy to turn to a whole myriad of other YouTube channels or Twitter accounts or Instagram feeds.
Even when they like the individual. When they can easily be distracted by so many others. Especially in a rapid 24/7 news type environment.
It is all to easy for smaller minded people to forget about someone & focus on the next shiny individual.

Post: #2088

Being flamboyant and gay isn't interesting....nobody cares.

Being flamboyant gay with an informed articulate conservative voice...thats novel and noteworthy. Even powerful.

He's misusing his "gay pass". If hed tone down the gay and ratchet up the conservative he'd matter again

Post: #2089

On the heels of banning David Icke and Gavin McInnes, the Australian government has just banned Milo.

Quote:The government has reportedly rejected alt-right star Milo Yiannopoulos’s application for a visa to enter Australia.

Mr Yiannopoulos, who has shot to fame by saying provocative and often offensive things, was rejected on character grounds, The Age and Sydney Morning Herald report.

He has a month to appeal the decision.

It comes on the heels of “men’s rights” group founder Gavin McInnes being blocked from entering the country in December.

And it isn’t entirely unexpected.

Last week, Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt published an excerpt from a letter the Immigration Department had sent to Mr Yiannopoulos describing its reasoning.

It said there was a risk Mr Yiannopoulos would “incite discord in the Australian community or in a segment of that community”, pointing to the large protests that happened during his last visit to Australia in 2017.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/milo-yian...c4d6b9207e

Post: #2090

Australia : "We can handle the debauchery & mass hedonism on display with a big LGTBQXYZ 'madi gras' featuring hundreds of gays & lesbian folk."

Also Australia : "One verbose gay guy is just too much for us to handle..."

Post: #2091

(03-06-2019 07:40 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  Australia : "We can handle the debauchery & mass hedonism on display with a big LGTBQXYZ 'madi gras' featuring hundreds of gays & lesbian folk."

Also Australia : "One verbose gay guy is just too much for us to handle..."

I believe the term is 'dangerous faggot'

Post: #2092

Very interesting interview with Jordan Peterson (uploaded today, interviewed on 4/11/19 before the Facebook ban)

podcast link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-...0438771175

Some key points I took away.

• Milo genuinely regrets his pedophile comments and him being a stepfather of a 16 year old son gave him a new perspective on that viewpoint.
• He openly mocks Peterson during the interview saying he cares to much about prestige and that we will result in his eventual downfall.
• He think the right fucked itself over by not promoting him further when his pedophile comments came out because it gave the left a playbook to take out right wing pundits who are influential.
• He is securing funding in the U.S (Oklahoma) to become more of entertainer rather then a political right wing provocateur as a late night TV show.
• He is not really in millions of dollar of debt, he just (origninal story: https://www.gq.com/story/milo-yiannopoul...ns-in-debt )
• His late night show will be similar to Alex Jones InfoWars-> no social media/YouTube -> subscription only. He says his email list will be enough.
• He says social media will fall just as fast if not faster that it has risen and being kicked off Twitter and being deplatformed by others will not hurt him (looks like he cared less when banned from Facebook)
• He says his talent alone will keep him going and that his email list will keep his fanbase intact and give him the creative freedom he needs.
  
  Interesting to see if he gets to his peak again without social media. If what he says is true this guy is a visionary for sure.
  
  

Post: #2093

(05-19-2019 02:49 PM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  Very interesting interview with Jordan Peterson (uploaded today, interviewed on 4/11/19 before the Facebook ban)

podcast link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-...0438771175

Some key points I took away.

• Milo genuinely regrets his pedophile comments and him being a stepfather of a 16 year old son gave him a new perspective on that viewpoint.
• He openly mocks Peterson during the interview saying he cares to much about prestige and that we will result in his eventual downfall.
• He think the right fucked itself over by not promoting him further when his pedophile comments came out because it gave the left a playbook to take out right wing pundits who are influential.
• He is securing funding in the U.S (Oklahoma) to become more of entertainer rather then a political right wing provocateur as a late night TV show.
• He is not really in millions of dollar of debt, he just (origninal story: https://www.gq.com/story/milo-yiannopoul...ns-in-debt )
• His late night show will be similar to Alex Jones InfoWars-> no social media/YouTube -> subscription only. He says his email list will be enough.
• He says social media will fall just as fast if not faster that it has risen and being kicked off Twitter and being deplatformed by others will not hurt him (looks like he cared less when banned from Facebook)
• He says his talent alone will keep him going and that his email list will keep his fanbase intact and give him the creative freedom he needs.
  
  Interesting to see if he gets to his peak again without social media. If what he says is true this guy is a visionary for sure.
  
  

I'm pressed for time but may be able to listen to the interview in its entirety so thanks for the summary.

pre interview thoughts:

Quote:He openly mocks Peterson

Good. Jordan Peterson isn't a conservative and is controlled opposition. I remember when Vox Day was harping on and on about Jordan Peterson but the day Peterson denounced Kavanaugh wasn't fit to be a Justice was when I saw the light.

Having a career in entertainment is brutal. Milo hopefully has socked donor money away in some kind of savings (doesn't look like it though with his tell all book about his finances). Nobody here talks about guys like Pizza Party Ben or Baked Alaska.

Milo needs social media, I don't think he will be at his peak which was before he got banned on twitter in mid 2016. I will try to check out the interview since I'd like to hear Milo's reasoning.

Quote:He think the right fucked itself over by not promoting him further when his pedophile comments came out because it gave the left a playbook to take out right wing pundits who are influential.

Milo is a narcissist, not too many people would want to associate with a pedophile.

Post: #2094

Anyone who thinks that a zionist homosexual pedophile can ever be a spokesperson for the real right is completely deluded.

Post: #2095

(05-19-2019 02:49 PM)Thrill Jackson Wrote:  Very interesting interview with Jordan Peterson (uploaded today, interviewed on 4/11/19 before the Facebook ban)

podcast link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/a-...0438771175

Some key points I took away.

• Milo genuinely regrets his pedophile comments and him being a stepfather of a 16 year old son gave him a new perspective on that viewpoint.
• He openly mocks Peterson during the interview saying he cares to much about prestige and that we will result in his eventual downfall.
• He think the right fucked itself over by not promoting him further when his pedophile comments came out because it gave the left a playbook to take out right wing pundits who are influential.
• He is securing funding in the U.S (Oklahoma) to become more of entertainer rather then a political right wing provocateur as a late night TV show.
• He is not really in millions of dollar of debt, he just (origninal story: https://www.gq.com/story/milo-yiannopoul...ns-in-debt )
• His late night show will be similar to Alex Jones InfoWars-> no social media/YouTube -> subscription only. He says his email list will be enough.
• He says social media will fall just as fast if not faster that it has risen and being kicked off Twitter and being deplatformed by others will not hurt him (looks like he cared less when banned from Facebook)
• He says his talent alone will keep him going and that his email list will keep his fanbase intact and give him the creative freedom he needs.
  
  Interesting to see if he gets to his peak again without social media. If what he says is true this guy is a visionary for sure.
  
  

This was a perfectly calibrated public therapy session in which an experienced clinician teased out honest reflection and emotion from a persona obsessed patient using sympathy, empathy, genuine admiration, as well as probing and sometimes pointed questions.

It was an act of generosity by Peterson of whom Milo has been talking shit for a while now starting with his forward to Vox Day's "SJWs Always Lie."

In addition to his concern for Milo as a person, and his interest in defining things clearly by removing common thinking problems that adult patients have about things that happened to them in their younger years, Peterson satisfied his own intellectual curiosity about the issues that Milo, as a public figure, raised.

It must also be said that this conversation started out with Milo protecting himself by scurrying around in fancy flights of rationalization, and that little by little, always starting with sympathetic listening and even admiration and rapport, Peterson got him to open up and drop the posing.

You could hear Milo's voice change as they talked, going from his usually flippancy to a deeper, softer, more reflective register.

It was only after these undoubtedly personal revelations that Milo, retreating into persona, went on the offensive against Peterson, reclaiming, as you would expect, his facile dismissals of Peterson as well as other conservatives. It was a re-acquisition of face, mostly. It was also textbook transference, the putting of all the patient's dissatisfaction with the world onto the therapist, and the therapist quietly being willing to carry the load in the interest of healing the spirit of the other person.

Also interesting was that Peterson, in exactly the way you would expect an experienced psychologist to do, offered no countering accusations or ego based defenses, preferring to draw Milo out on the subject he brought up, and the way it came across was that he was allowing Milo, after the obviously uncomfortable realizations and admissions he made, to reestablish dominance as a way of protecting his ego.

This was an absolutely fascinating therapy session, basically, more than an interview, and if anyone is interested in seeing the many facets of how this sort of thing is achieved, you could do worse.

It might also answer some of the criticisms of Peterson as incoherent intellectually, as you can observe in real time the way a therapist advances and retreats with a patient, taking and relinquishing control, all with the goal of moving forwards the patient's own self knowledge and healing.

This is a completely different game than intellectual sword play, and if you understand that, it might make more sense that Peterson doesn't have the same logical coherence of some of the people he debates.

This is his training, this sensitivity to where, emotionally, the person he is talking to is residing, and how best to respond to that. It is more of a heart coherence than a head coherence, and he might be better off leaving politics alone and doing podcasts just like this.

The only downside of this is that normally, this sort of thing is supposed to be private, and it could be considered unfair to the patient to move a conversation like this into the public sphere. Obviously though, Peterson is aware of this, and probably decided that Milo wouldn't be interested in anything private anyway, so a public session was better than none at all.

Either way, thank you for uploading this. I have been burned out on Peterson's political talking points and haven't been watching him. To see him truly in his element doing what he does best was a joy.

If you are interested in this kind of thing, I have tried to keep the description general so as not to ruin it.

This was a master at work.

To paraphrase a female character of James Thurber: He didn't tell Peterson things, Peterson got them out of him.

Post: #2096

(05-19-2019 03:16 PM)ChicagoFire Wrote:  Milo is a narcissist, not too many people would want to associate with a pedophile.

All homosexuals are narcissists. All homosexual men are potential pedophiles since they don't get aroused by fertile women, which means they will get aroused by unfertile people (read: children).

Anyway, Milo learned the hard way that gay privilege only applies to Democrat gays. He also learned that conservatives don't conserve anything. They sure as hell aren't going to conserve a flaming homosexual that made unacceptable comments*.

*The real reason he got unpersoned is that he said there are gay sex parties in Hollywood with "very young boys."

Post: #2097

Youtube vid of the podcast.