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(10-06-2016 09:06 AM)Tweezy Wrote:  Onto,

I would recommend finding an older woman. That age gap is a bit too high in my opinion (for marriage). Adds more unneeded risk. I'd shoot for something in the 24-32 range to be on the safer side of things. Once you go past 15-20 years, people are likely to think you are a creep preying on young desperate girls from 3rd world countries. Personally, I wouldn't want to be that guy to my family and friends. As for non age related things, there is just too many significant red flags. Also, unless you are straight obese, being a little over weight shouldn't stop you from getting better quality. Wouldn't let that hinder you. Anyways, just giving my honest opinion. Wish you the best of luck in your wife hunt.
I would agree to be careful on an 18 year old for the simple reason is that the female brain is still immature at that age. She will change by the time she is 30 and it is a crap shoot. As long as you know that, fine. I would not let it stop me, personally.
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I'm very happy that you are having a much better time this time around in the Philippines and that you have found a girl that makes you happy. As I and others in here have been telling you, take your time, do not rush it. Yes, coming from a mentally ill place where women are hopelessly damaged to one where they still are feminine and sweet can be intoxicating. Even more so when it's in the form of a sweet 18 year old who is oozing with joie de vivre, playfulness and sweetness.

Exercise caution, keep your eyes open, enjoy it and take the time to really know her. Spend time with her family and friends to see how they are. Look at her mother and sisters and you'll get an idea of what she'd look like when she reaches their age. See how she behaves with them and treats them. Spend at least a year with her to really get to know her. You're still in the early stages of the honeymoon phase with her where everything is wonderful. Again, can't stress this enough, TAKE YOUR TIME brother!

Keep us updated my friend!
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(10-06-2016 10:53 PM)Tweezy Wrote:  If you don't care about what your family thinks then no worries mate. Happy hunting.

This attitude is just off. If your family responds to you marrying a young woman negatively, that's an offense against you. If I cared what they thought before, I wouldn't after that. They'd be told "this is my wife, you will enthusiastically accept her, this is your first and final warning, I trust I've made myself clear".

You're not "doing that to them", they are doing that to you. You're not momma's little boy anymore, perhaps you should defer to your own interests because they certainly don't sound like they are or would.
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(10-06-2016 09:06 AM)Tweezy Wrote:  Onto,

I would recommend finding an older woman. That age gap is a bit too high in my opinion (for marriage). Adds more unneeded risk. I'd shoot for something in the 24-32 range to be on the safer side of things. Once you go past 15-20 years, people are likely to think

So your goal is ~third best. Too bad you think so lowly of yourself and of your brief moment to shine in life. With work, you can allow yourself to do and feel better than the mediocre hordes trudging through life around you.

"People will think?" You don't believe the average person actually thinks, do you? They-- at most regurgitate-- they quake , they grovel , they quiver, they quibble, they niggle, they tiptoe, they skate- they deny their own desires and existence.

They barely breathe.


There is no success in life without being hated.

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May you become fully alive, and joyously spread your seed wide into youth, fertility, beauty and life should you desire.

The proviso being that, of course, "youth" means 18 years old plus.

Also: You are scientifically exactly wrong as applies to maternal age and birth problems, the older the father is the younger the mother you want. you. See chart below.


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(10-07-2016 03:56 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  
(10-06-2016 10:53 PM)Tweezy Wrote:  If you don't care about what your family thinks then no worries mate. Happy hunting.

This attitude is just off. If your family responds to you marrying a young woman negatively, that's an offense against you. If I cared what they thought before, I wouldn't after that. They'd be told "this is my wife, you will enthusiastically accept her, this is your first and final warning, I trust I've made myself clear".

You're not "doing that to them", they are doing that to you. You're not momma's little boy anymore, perhaps you should defer to your own interests because they certainly don't sound like they are or would.

Exactly.

If your daughters are age shaming you on who you date, you raised them to be feminists. Feminists by definition do not want anyone to be happy, including another Feminist. By encouraging that, this poster is effectively a male feminist fully indoctrinated in that line of thinking.

Biology is not up for debate. Men can have children almost at 80 years old. Women have half of that for fertility and it is dangerous for them at 35, for higher risks of miscarriage, genetic disorders, Autism/Aspergers, Down Syndrome, etc.

Any man afraid to marry an 18 year old woman, is a man afraid of leadership. Even worse, afraid to defend their own views as a man. If my wife died today or tomorrow (God Forbid), after I get over my grief, I would be back in Asia, looking for another even younger than she is now. Hell I might even get an 18 year old if I find one. I'm not afraid of that. If any man is badder than me, good luck pulling her off my arm. I would bet all the money in my bank account you could not pull her off my arm. I would even dare you to do so in front of her. I brought my wife back to the US with me, and the only clown that has tried to flirt with my wife was a 18 year old punk at the cash register of a grocery store. A fat black kid. I would have been a little annoyed if it wasn't funny. My wife thought that was funny too. Most probably see my physique or her ring and decide against it. Those are the smart ones.

That's the power of no N Count on a woman. NEVER underestimate the power of being the only man that has ever stretched her walls. The research doesn't lie. Their brain does not know how to hunt for more men, because it cannot get past what you did to their body, when you turned them into a woman. That is your stamp, your brand.

Sex is undefeated in our world. Biology will also remain unbeaten.

In public my wife likes to tug and pull on me and it makes black women roll their eyes. Asian American women just stare in bewilderment. Some brothers show me love, others are visibly salty. Probably think I am a race traitor. Fuck em. Black Lives Matter means shit to me. Kai's Life Matters is number 1 to me. My prerogative matters most. My goals matters most. The family tribe I want to build in a red pill way, is what matters to me.

Tweezy's liberal views are dying in real time. Look at the revolt worldwide against the Feminist narrative. Russia beats them. China arrests them and breaks up their meetings. Tweezy even found himself here for whatever reason. MGTOWs are everywhere on Youtube. Domestic marriage is at an all time low. If everyone else wants to be miserable, I won't. I refuse.

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(10-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote:  Onto,

Those "Cons" are pretty big ones.

Enjoy the 18 year-old pussy, but don't let it distract you from your actual wife hunt (if that's indeed what you want).

Good luck and keep us posted.

The only possible con I saw was the weight. The rest are not as big of a red flag as they seem on the surface.

Thing about 18 year olds are that they are still moldable. Only when women get around 23/24 do they become set in their ways.

He did not describe her weight at all. So it's kinda hard to say. He could make her develop a workout habit at her age and is more likely to succeed than asking a 20 something to do the same.

If she is 5 foot tall and 135lbs, that might be too chubby. If she is 5 foot and 125, eh... maybe she has a plump ass? If so, that's okay if he likes asses, but if it is sloppy on the sides (love handles) and she is flat chested with no ass, probably not. If she is 140+, that's a red flag.

The broken home is fixable with proper guidance. Might be slightly harder once the kids come and if there are no decent relatives to help out. Then ages 0-5 will be a non-stop hell for the most part. If you luck out and your kids are kinda mellow and not hyperactive, then it's fine.

Let me tell what is a red flag for Pinays:

1. 30+ and never been married.

2. 35+ (Probably seperated from her husband and is trying to trick you out of your money or thinks the US will give her a green card, which they won't because she will fail on K1 and K3 visa background check)

3. An intact family that utterly controls the girl and all her money. (Want hell on Earth? Marry a Pinay like this.) Onto's situation may actually be a plus in some ways if she has no overlords. Unfortunately some think of foreigners as money bags and fear their fathers far more than they fear you.

4. A girl, any age, asking for money. (not an immediate disqualifier, but still a flag)

5. A girl that talks back, does not follow your lead, devoid of Judeo-Christian submission.

6. Any girl that will only marry you if you take her out of the country. She needs to feel happy and at ease in her own world, but still willing to follow you anywhere in the world. See number 5.

7. Not a Christian or Catholic. (For pinays, that's a red flag)

8. Has had several boyfriends or has a ton of orbiters on her Facebook/social media.

9. Hair too short. (above ears)

10. Works too much and never takes out time to meet up. School is different, but not by alot. Still can be difficult to deal around.

11. Former bar girl or dancer.

There are others I am sure I am missing. Maybe go look at Thoughtgypsy's Datasheet if you want to see more, but these are the biggest ones that stick out for me.

Anyway, the younger a Filipino girl is, the better. I don't recommend chasing 18 year Chinese women, because it is very hard to make them serious and the laws/culture won't line up, but 18 year Pinays are perfect and much easier to find and keep. Another advantage is that you can hold her for a year to see how well she takes to instruction and see flaws. Dating other Asians longer than a year and they get salty about no marriage. Onto has alot of options on the table believe it or not. He may not want to spend a year like that, but there is room for a happy medium somewhere in there, to satisfy requirements.

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(10-07-2016 09:54 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(10-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote:  Onto,

Those "Cons" are pretty big ones.

Enjoy the 18 year-old pussy, but don't let it distract you from your actual wife hunt (if that's indeed what you want).

Good luck and keep us posted.

The only possible con I saw was the weight. The rest are not as big of a red flag as they seem on the surface.

Thing about 18 year olds are that they are still moldable. Only when women get around 23/24 do they become set in their ways.

He did not describe her weight at all. So it's kinda hard to say. He could make her develop a workout habit at her age and is more likely to succeed than asking a 20 something to do the same.

She really does appear to be very moldable. It's like a breath of fresh air. You're right TK, the girls I've dated in their 20's don't take well to instruction. She is currently at the max weight I can tolerate. I've seen the pictures from a year ago when she was 15+ lbs lighter and her hotness multiplies.

One red flag with some modern-day Pinay's is that western feminism is spreading here because of western TV/Movies, but most especially facebook. Theses girls are posting, and re-posting feminist bullshit quite often.

Yesterday, my girl tested the waters to see if I would allow her to become fat by sending one of thess feminist facebook messgaes that float around.

20 years ago, when I knew nothing, I would've said, "Of course I would love you no matter what". 20 yrs ago I lost a gorgeous LTR by letting her get fat, so I had to dump her. I will not make that same mistake twice. Here is the text exchange. We'll see if she follows through

   

   
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^ No offense - actually a compliment if you think about it - she's letting you get away with a lot of "beta" here. Here in Poland I'd have to do something like this with my gf:

"Do you love me or nah?"
"OMG I LOVE YOU SO MUCH I'M GONNA EXPLODE BUT IF I EXPLODE I CAN'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE OMG OMG OMG HELP!"
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(10-07-2016 08:33 PM)Onto Wrote:  
(10-07-2016 09:54 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(10-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote:  Onto,

Those "Cons" are pretty big ones.

Enjoy the 18 year-old pussy, but don't let it distract you from your actual wife hunt (if that's indeed what you want).

Good luck and keep us posted.

The only possible con I saw was the weight. The rest are not as big of a red flag as they seem on the surface.

Thing about 18 year olds are that they are still moldable. Only when women get around 23/24 do they become set in their ways.

He did not describe her weight at all. So it's kinda hard to say. He could make her develop a workout habit at her age and is more likely to succeed than asking a 20 something to do the same.

She really does appear to be very moldable. It's like a breath of fresh air. You're right TK, the girls I've dated in their 20's don't take well to instruction. She is currently at the max weight I can tolerate. I've seen the pictures from a year ago when she was 15+ lbs lighter and her hotness multiplies.

One red flag with some modern-day Pinay's is that western feminism is spreading here because of western TV/Movies, but most especially facebook. Theses girls are posting, and re-posting feminist bullshit quite often.

Yesterday, my girl tested the waters to see if I would allow her to become fat by sending one of thess feminist facebook messgaes that float around.

20 years ago, when I knew nothing, I would've said, "Of course I would love you no matter what". 20 yrs ago I lost a gorgeous LTR by letting her get fat, so I had to dump her. I will not make that same mistake twice. Here is the text exchange. We'll see if she follows through

Filipinos are NOTORIOUS for gaining weight quickly at a certain point. So yeah get her ass to the gym or be prepared to next her if she doesn't follow through. The diet doesn't really help either.
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(10-07-2016 09:54 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(10-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote:  Onto,

Those "Cons" are pretty big ones.

Enjoy the 18 year-old pussy, but don't let it distract you from your actual wife hunt (if that's indeed what you want).

Good luck and keep us posted.

The only possible con I saw was the weight. The rest are not as big of a red flag as they seem on the surface.

Respectfully disagree. Filipinas aren't the same as Chinese girls man. With Flips you have to take any red flag extremely seriously because the vast majority of the poorer demographic make shoddy LTR material.

This all goes for triple when you are dealing with online girls in Manilla. Yes, many are sweet but that usually isn't the whole story. I went through a LOT of girls there and very, very few of them would be candidates for becoming Mrs Bushido.

Why am I sceptical about this chick of Onto's?

1. The girl is still stringing along her ex. Come on, this is absolute bullshit. A solid girl* would cut out the old boyfriend entirely, block him on all accounts and possibly change her phone number to make 100% sure. This is a huge red flag. No excuses for it.

*When I say "solid", I am talking solid by Asian LTR standards. The level of character that is expected, indeed demanded, of a potential wife by local Asian guys far exceeds what we would expect back in the abusive and toxic dating market back home. People need to adjust their expectations and stop letting chicks get away with bringing down their standards for foreigners. It's not OK for a chick to be chatting with her ex. I don't care what the circumstances are.

2. Having a broken home isn't a killer on its own, but it's certainly not ideal. She may lack the necessary morality and family values of solid wife material. This is very contextual though. How religious is she? Does she hold any bitterness towards her father? Etc etc

3. The weight gaining tendency is a minor one if you keep frame. But again, it's not an ideal trait. There are many naturally slim Filipinas too. Go to the provinces. Most girls are slim there.

4. Onto also mentioned that she is a 5.5. Why would you marry a girl that you yourself rate as mediocre? (Now, he didn't say he was marrying her just yet but my point stands)

As I said above, Onto should probably enjoy his time with this chick without getting locked too deeply into this just yet.

Why? Because the Philippines is a sea of willing, submissive teenage girls if you know where to look. Onto should not even consider settling.

I suggest that Onto acquaint himself more with the local culture. That he be pickier. That he demand the best he can get. Right now, I believe that he is selling himself short.

Years of negative experience spent in suboptimal dating markets such as the US can only be corrected with more positive reference experiences and time on the ground.

Just my two cents.
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(10-09-2016 02:59 AM)262 Wrote:  ^ No offense - actually a compliment if you think about it - she's letting you get away with a lot of "beta" here. Here in Poland I'd have to do something like this with my gf:

I'd say that this is typical behaviour for Asian girls. It's neither a compliment nor a negative. They value the beta in guys much more highly. Hell, even the most prolific Filipino playboys write sweet nothings to their girls. The danger lies in going too far with it and turning them off and/or losing the frame.
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I have a tendency to want to know the direction of a relationship very early on. Onto you may be doing that here.

When really it's just TIME that provides all the answers.

Usually 3 months with a girl and I laugh at the prospect I ever considered her seriously. That will likely be the case here.
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I speak Russian and I may look for a wife in Russia, start a family and stay. The only rule is to never take her to your country or let her have a citizenship of your country, you can leave any time with this leverage and she couldn't do anything.
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(10-07-2016 08:20 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  If my wife died today or tomorrow (God Forbid), after I get over my grief, I would be back in Asia, looking for another even younger than she is now. Hell I might even get an 18 year old if I find one. I'm not afraid of that.


Probably think I am a race traitor. Fuck em.

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(10-09-2016 02:50 PM)Bushido Wrote:  
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(10-06-2016 11:09 PM)Bushido Wrote:  Onto,

Those "Cons" are pretty big ones.

Enjoy the 18 year-old pussy, but don't let it distract you from your actual wife hunt (if that's indeed what you want).

Good luck and keep us posted.

The only possible con I saw was the weight. The rest are not as big of a red flag as they seem on the surface.

Respectfully disagree. Filipinas aren't the same as Chinese girls man. With Flips you have to take any red flag extremely seriously because the vast majority of the poorer demographic make shoddy LTR material.

This all goes for triple when you are dealing with online girls in Manilla. Yes, many are sweet but that usually isn't the whole story. I went through a LOT of girls there and very, very few of them would be candidates for becoming Mrs Bushido.

Why am I sceptical about this chick of Onto's?

1. The girl is still stringing along her ex. Come on, this is absolute bullshit. A solid girl* would cut out the old boyfriend entirely, block him on all accounts and possibly change her phone number to make 100% sure. This is a huge red flag. No excuses for it.

*When I say "solid", I am talking solid by Asian LTR standards. The level of character that is expected, indeed demanded, of a potential wife by local Asian guys far exceeds what we would expect back in the abusive and toxic dating market back home. People need to adjust their expectations and stop letting chicks get away with bringing down their standards for foreigners. It's not OK for a chick to be chatting with her ex. I don't care what the circumstances are.

2. Having a broken home isn't a killer on its own, but it's certainly not ideal. She may lack the necessary morality and family values of solid wife material. This is very contextual though. How religious is she? Does she hold any bitterness towards her father? Etc etc

3. The weight gaining tendency is a minor one if you keep frame. But again, it's not an ideal trait. There are many naturally slim Filipinas too. Go to the provinces. Most girls are slim there.

4. Onto also mentioned that she is a 5.5. Why would you marry a girl that you yourself rate as mediocre? (Now, he didn't say he was marrying her just yet but my point stands)

As I said above, Onto should probably enjoy his time with this chick without getting locked too deeply into this just yet.

Why? Because the Philippines is a sea of willing, submissive teenage girls if you know where to look. Onto should not even consider settling.

I suggest that Onto acquaint himself more with the local culture. That he be pickier. That he demand the best he can get. Right now, I believe that he is selling himself short.

Years of negative experience spent in suboptimal dating markets such as the US can only be corrected with more positive reference experiences and time on the ground.

Just my two cents.

I forgot to check this thread, it's been a while. I don't remember seeing point number one in Onto's posts. If that is true, that changes things, especially if she is still doing that and they (her and Onto) already been fucking.

Number 2 I agree completely.

Number 3 I agree. They have shitty diets there, but that is fixable with basic leadership and controls on what food is cooked in the house.

On number 4, an 18 year old 5.5, when you are 40+? Eh... That's not quite the same as a 5.5 @ 30, but at the same time, she isn't going to get hotter with age either, so I see what you mean. Also, 5.5 with makeup and nice clothes can touch 6 to near 7 territory (aka rich looking chick).

He should absolutely take his time and be picky within reason. It's going to be hard to get every feature box checked off, even if he was 28 years old with a million bucks in cash. All women have drawbacks. A future Mrs. Bushido will have flaws regardless of if she was a Pinay or Chinese. Some things that would be a dealbreaker for some, may not be a deal breaker for him (like a 5.5/10 w/o makeup 18 year old). All men have to figure out what issues they can deal with and which ones they cannot. Make a spreadsheet or a matrix and list them out, if it would help you. Make a NEEDS vs WANTS breakdown list. Once you write it down, mentally you won't forget about it later while hunting.

If guys are willing to sit down and take a professional approach and project manage their hunt to an extent, they will find that there are more available women than they originally thought. Either that or convince you that marriage isn't for you in the first place. Doing a hunt like this does take the fun out of it, so I can see why some would rather float around until they find love at first sight.

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What is everyone's needs vs wants when wife hunting? I will try to put mine in order.

Needs (Non Negotiable)

1) Easy going

Laid back. Doesn't worry about or stress small things. Non argumentative. Takes something quite serious or major to make a fuss over.

2) Independent

Not needy. Self sufficient. Doesn't need me to be her sole source of attention and entertainment. Doesn't bug or nag me about calling, texting or spending too much time together.

3) Selfless

Puts my needs and wants before hers. Or at the very has no problem with splitting decisions 50/50 etc.

4) Simple

Can't be high maintenance. Minimal makeup. Is fine with frugality, simplicity, and minimalism.

5) Responsible

Able to keep a house tidy. Good with money. Dependable.

6) Similar parenting ideas

Discipline, religion, education etc.

Wants

5) Fun

Preferably has some of the same hobbies as me. Traveling, dancing, music, movies, sports, working out etc.

6) Great smile

This is almost a need. Love a girl with a nice smile that lights up a room.

7) Sense of humor

Who wants a complete bore?

8) Educated

9) Not from a broken home

Some things that are a given would be

1) 6+ in looks

2) Honest

3) Loyal

4) Pleasant disposition (not a bitch)

Would insta dump a girl who lied, cheated, or had a bitchy attitude.
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Guys, I'm really torn up. I'm 35 she was 20 and I did everything I could to come to USA from California. She told me should come to USA for 8 months. Then I left. She said she wouldn't come 2 months later.
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^ That's tough. So does that mean it's over or are you planning to go visit her again and either find a way to stay there or convince her?

That is a problem with girls that young their minds drift easily and aimlessly. Most girls I've met don't become solid unless they are 22+ or you have locally dated them consistently and seriously for a few years and helped mold them with guidance to follow your leadership that they trust and respect.

The age and distance thing is a pretty delicate matter to catch girls and also have a bond and trust strong enough to make such a big commitment to move so far from home. It is difficult.

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(10-29-2016 06:58 PM)WashedUPVet Wrote:  Guys, I'm really torn up. I'm 35 she was 20 and I did everything I could to come to USA from California. She told me should come to USA for 8 months. Then I left. She said she wouldn't come 2 months later.

How long have you been chatting with her? How long did you live with her? Would you say your SMV's match up pretty closely, even in America?
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Onto, if you're considering finding a wife in the Philippines, I would give you one piece of advice: learn Tagalog (or Bisaya, if you're searching in the Visayas/Mindanao).

I'm 100% serious.

No one would search for a wife in Latin America without knowing Spanish or in Russia without knowing Russian. Why would anyone search for a Filipina TO GIVE THEIR LIFE AND CHILDREN TO without learning at least some Tagalog?

Especially when it's orders of magnitude easier than Russian or even Spanish. And you don't even have to be fluent, since you can "code switch" and speak Taglish to make up for what you don't know.

Filipinos may speak English, but they are not native English speakers. Especially the kind of girls you should be looking for. This will help you filter/access better quality women, while also signalling very positive things to girls and their families.

Dump the girl you're with, spend the next 3 months studying a little each day and practicing with "chat mates" with good English, and start interjecting what you learn into your interactions with new girls (especially opening).

You'll have already found a better quality girl within that timeframe. I guarantee it.

Also, I would highly, highly recommend looking outside of Makati/Central Manila. There are plenty of other cities in the Metro to choose from.
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Egnima,

Comparing LA to Philippines with regard to learning a language is like comparing night and day.

There is no "may" speak English. Ive been going to the Philippines many years and have never met a girl who didn't speak conversational English. Even the homeless people begging on the street and living under bridges speak English.

Unless one is only meeting girls who live in the deep province who never even finished elementary school? I guess then it is a possibility they can't speak English.

One can not finish grade school (elem - high) in Philippines without knowing English. The classes are taught in English. Actually, the Government just changed a few classes to use Tagalog like in Math a few years ago. But still, most the time English is being used in school.

Compared to LA where only a small % of the girls can speak conversational English.

The advice I can give to Philippines with getting quality girls is

1) Get one that is educated and or has a job that comes from a middle class or above family. This will greatly reduce the chances of her getting with you solely for money and a green card. You also wont have to deal with the whole "supporting her family" issue.

2) Try to find one through social circle.

As for Tagalog. More for just impressing people than for actually needing it for communication.

I use a handful of words for joking and teasing myself.
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Dude, I've lived in the Philippines for 3 years.

Where did I say you NEED Tagalog?

I told Onto that if he is searching for a wife and mother to his children (especially as a man in his 40s), he will have access to better quality women if he can speak the local language.

Anyone who says otherwise has absolutely no idea what they're talking about. A simple A/B test online, using one set of messages in English and another in Taglish, would confirm what I'm saying with a high level of statistical significance. And that's just online.

Is "impressing people" not a part of game? Why would you not want to stand out of the crowd? Why would you not want women to feel more comfortable and less shy speaking with you?

I specifically haven't weighed in on this thread because Travesty said he wasn't interested in the country. I only said something to Onto because he was seeking advice and I think he's a good guy. If he listens, he won't regret it, but that's his choice.

If you'd rather take a less attractive, less conservative woman into your home, life, and genetic lineage because you can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes a day learning a language with Latin characters, easy pronunciation, minimal grammar, and hundreds of cognates, be my guest.
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Enigma,

This comment and comparison here gives people the impression one needs to learn Tagalog.

Quote:No one would search for a wife in Latin America without knowing Spanish or in Russia without knowing Russian. Why would anyone search for a Filipina TO GIVE THEIR LIFE AND CHILDREN TO without learning at least some Tagalog?

One wouldn't (shouldn't) go to LA to look for a wife without knowing Spanish because most people can not speak conversational English. Same with Russia.

Quote:Filipinos may speak English, but they are not native English speakers. Especially the kind of girls you should be looking for. This will help you filter/access better quality women, while also signalling very positive things to girls and their families.

Also, the use of "may" here throws me off. As I pointed out. Even homeless people speak conversational English.

The girls he should be looking for (educated, middle to uppler class, good job) are the girls who will be basically fluent in English (not many nosebleed moments, less accent and a larger vocabulary). As I said, the only girls that wouldn't are the ones he should AVOID.

Quote:If you'd rather take a less attractive, less conservative woman into your home, life, and genetic lineage because you can't be bothered to spend 30 minutes a day learning a language with Latin characters, easy pronunciation, minimal grammar, and hundreds of cognates, be my guest.

Again, not following this line of thought. The educated upper class girls will be fluent in English. Hell, ive seen some Pinoys with better English than Americans.

Unless you are trying to say educated upper class girls will not date or marry a Kano who doesn't speak any Tagalog. If so, we will just have to agree to disagree.

As I said, you may not mean the impression I got. Just pointing out how it comes across.

For the record, even though basically everyone speaks conversational English in the Philippines. I still recommend learning some of the language. Damn sure if you are gonna be marrying a Filipina.

Then again, that is true for every country and foreign girl one is looking to marry.
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(10-30-2016 12:14 AM)Enigma Wrote:  I specifically haven't weighed in on this thread because Travesty said he wasn't interested in the country.

Idea When I shitposted that I really meant that if I was going to find a wife from that region of the world I prefer Vietnamese in looks over Filipinas, and I personally have no interest in the PI especially after having visited Vietnam and liking the people and women so much. So when people advise me to go to the PI and look I tire of it because I have no interest.

Please do not let this stop you or anyone else from dropping info for others. Banana

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