Post: #26

(08-04-2015 11:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  In my world respect is not everything it is the ONLY thing.

I was raised by a Sicilian American Korean War veteran - I learned that if you disrespect or humiliate any other man even in jest you make a mortal enemy for life - eventually it becomes his mission to get even even it it takes years - the longer it takes the sweeter the revenge.

The man is the builder and architect of his family and the woman is the foundation upon which you build it.

There are 5 Sicilian rules and the rules are like bricks they build upon one an other. Pull out a brick and the wall or family crumbles.

Love - base brick

Honor - second brick she always honors your wishes

Respect - she even slightly disrespects you once you call her on it in a firm even harsh manner and make it clear it will never happen again - like a corrective jerk on a disobedient dog. She dares do it again and its hasta la vista time to make like a ghost - NEXT.

Loyalty - She is either on your Team or she is not. She can't serve more than one master and can't be on more than one team at a time period.

Fidelity - (The woman you invest everything in to build a family cheats on you the solution is severe - it is called a Sicilian divorce for a reason).

Also the 11th commandment is you never knowingly make a mortal enemy out of any man and never let any man make a mortal enemy out of you because if you must dig one grave be sure to dig two. The wisdom of the ancients is true and harsh.

If a woman was raised right she will know these rules instinctively and she will be on your team and your team only win or lose. No one bats 1,000 in life and no one hits every shot they take - what matters is you stay in the game and keep taking your shots sooner or later with practice you win more than you lose.

I can honestly say that the reason I have never been married or divorced nor have any child support or alimony is that it is damn near impossible to find a woman in America who consciously or subconsciously passes these crucial rules or tests. And that includes 3rd generation Sicilian and Italian women who take to 3rd Wave SJW feminism like fish to water. I do not know any one man who married young and had their marriage last in a happy manner. Divorce rate on Nuke Subs was 80% - even defending your country or especially when defending your country absence makes the ginas tingle and grow fonder for cock close to home. I promised myself then I would never be a nuke cruise cuckold. Served me well my entire life.

I will also say i was unknowingly a red pill man all my life because of my respect training at an early age and you have to train your woman to respect you like you train a retriever... just like a loyal dog it is your job as the master of your house and home to train them as to what is acceptable behavior and what is not. You would not tolerate a dog no matter how loving if they crapped in your kitchen or pissed on your couch daily - they would get immediate correction and remedial obedience training.

As has been said you can not yell at them - you can not bitch slap them or whip them as men were expected to in colonial times - what you can do is call them out especially on issues of love, honor, respect, loyalty and fidelity... I can never remember a woman dissing me in front of other people because I never let it get that far - I play on the two strikes and you are out rule - first time they violate an initial rule I immediately and firmly call them out with something harsh like "WTF was that ?" I would never do that to you - respect is everything in my world, you want to keep me in your life that WILL NEVER happen again! What you can do is dump their disrespectful ass and elevate the next one in rotation.

The fact that it even ever gets to a WTF moment is a big red flag and I begin to work new and better females in rotation in case. Something as simple as putting a slore GF call or hookup in higher priority to when I am available is disrespectful and unacceptable, heading down to the cape partying with a Slorey GF and even rumors of bang-a-thons from other people I know at these parties while I have to work and its NEXT - she goes on vacation with a slut GF to some notorius bang beach you got it - it is NEXT. If she really wants to be wife material she will never step out of line on you before marriage and especially so after marriage - so if they ever step out of line I would just get in a few rounds of revenge sex while I bring up the next loyal bitch retriever in rotation (loyal female dog analogy here) in all due RESPECT.

Sounds harsh but a loyal dog will sleep at the foot of your bed and protect you while you sleep with their life if necessary - the literal definition of a loyal ride or die Bitch - any thing less is completely unacceptable. I was like this even when I was in the service since I was 19 years old thanks to my tough love upbringing. The rules are not everything they are the only thing that matters if you want to be a real Alpha neoman.

Of course if you do get one good woman who passes all the tests and you decide to take the oath the rules work both ways. i did not make the rules I just follow them.

Can you explain the bold part in better detail? Seems interesting and my mental faculties are a little foggy these days.

Post: #27

(08-04-2015 11:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  In my world respect is not everything it is the ONLY thing.

I was raised by a Sicilian American Korean War veteran - I learned that if you disrespect or humiliate any other man even in jest you make a mortal enemy for life - eventually it becomes his mission to get even even it it takes years - the longer it takes the sweeter the revenge.

This is a good test for male friendship. Amongst yourselves, I think banter and shit talking to a degree is ok, but if they do this to you in a disrespectful manner in public (especially around women), you need to rethink the friendship. If you call someone out on this, they usually respond all the lines of "dude chill, it's just a joke", which is a shitty passive aggressive way of absolving themselves of responsibility and trying to make you seem hypersensitive or emotional. No, you should get pissed when someone disrespects you like that, and if they need to throw you under the bus to help themselves get laid, well, fuck 'em.

Post: #28

If a bitch is going to air dirty laundry, it had better be to no more than 1-3 of her hens (and preferably individual convos with each, not all her girlfriends simultaneously).

...but a whole social group intermixed with family? Add in they're married plus kids involved, and it's already the beginning of the end. If I was the husband, certainly it would have already been understood that OUR family life is OUR business. No exceptions unless violence occurred.

The group setting is what did it for me hearing this story. Fuck that, fuck her. I wouldn't tolerate that either. There's no pussy pass for that behavior. I might have "attempted" to have a talk with her in private, with a high probability of divorce permeating my mind.

Women, with kids, are all too quick to quit the team anymore, and ruin a whole family of lives, over their knee-jerk feelings. You can try to rationalize them away from doing it by pulling specific emotional strings, but the likelihood of recurrence, especially after publicly humiliating you, is extremely high since now she's empowered and also holds Kryptonite.

By being so public about it, she conquered as much as she could at a single setting. Both gaining support, and vilifying you simultaneously, surely attempting a "gang-up" approach, like a political rally against you. Holy fuck would I be livid. And what do you do when a "gang" (of men) attempts to attack you? You take out the leader and the rest whimper in defeat...temporarily anyways.

Post: #29

(08-04-2015 11:53 PM)nek Wrote:  This is a good test for male friendship. Amongst yourselves, I think banter and shit talking to a degree is ok, but if they do this to you in a disrespectful manner in public (especially around women), you need to rethink the friendship. If you call someone out on this, they usually respond all the lines of "dude chill, it's just a joke", which is a shitty passive aggressive way of absolving themselves of responsibility and trying to make you seem hypersensitive or emotional. No, you should get pissed when someone disrespects you like that, and if they need to throw you under the bus to help themselves get laid, well, fuck 'em.

This is something that took me years to learn, but its something I really wish someone had told me when I was younger. Guys who joke at your expense in front of girls aren't doing it from "matey banter", they're doing it because they're insecure and jealous. I had a whole friend group that did this constantly, and brushed it off as "being funny" - and anyone who got upset was exactly as you said, hypersensitive. I didn't realise how toxic it was until I had another friend group of positive, supportive guys...and realised it was night and day the difference hanging out with them. Its a really common problem among male friendgroups though, I think.

A woman's role is above-all to be supportive of you - to be your partner. I agree entirely with the posters saying that its expected she might moan to her her best friends about things, but doing it in front of others at a party is a whole different ball game. The same with making jokes at your expense. It shows a complete lack of respect. And if she doesn't respect you its just not going to work long term, best case scenario she treats you like a child. Worst case she cheats/leaves on you.

The guy in the OP's story did the right thing in leaving.

Post: #30

(08-04-2015 05:56 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  From my very extended social circle,

Basically husband and wife are at a cookout, and wifey thinking she's just rapping to her friends and family unloads how she really (?)feels. In that setting, bitches often overplay it for the crowd. Showing out is what we call it. It is what it is.

Husband hears the whole thing real time. If I recall the story right, he lets her go on for a while and then walks into the spot and stops her. He tells her he's leaving.

And that's what he does. He gets up leaves, stops by the house grabs a few things and to the hotel.

Kudos to him.

Years ago I would have applaud this guy for what he did, Gaddamn if take some balls...
It take some balls to letting your wife disrespect you a little each day
It take some balls to pretend to be surprised when she disrespect you in public
It take some balls to leave her in the house with all your belonging and go pay for a hotel room while you're also paying for the house
It take some balls to put your tail between your legs and lose everything...

But that was before I learned about women behaviour: Women talk a lot because they value social hierarchy, they can't do shit but brag about their husband, how he won a big raise, how he bought the last BMW 750i, she couldn't be able to even start the engine but being on the passenger seat is all she need to be proud.

What we have here is a man who failed at educating his woman, would you let a dog shit on your carpet everyday ?
Hell no you would discpline the mofucka !
Why wouldn't a man do the same with his wife ?

From another Thread about Black Flag comments

Quote:I don’t know. I’m still reflecting on it. But I’m pretty sure all he needed to do was show me the back of his hand the first time I cheated on him and I never would have left his side. I remember that the fourth or fifth time around I actually requested that he do so and he refused. It was nice of him.

(08-04-2015 05:56 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  She of course spends the rest of the time trying to get him back, talking about counseling (lol).

The follow up was that he got a divorce, but had to pay child support.

WIA

The "lol" at the end of your sentence sum it all up, even if he's gone he lost a lot but the action of the wife is the result of a long time of "letting things go with the flow" but the follow up(divorce) is her taking a big check and go riding the carousel...
Not sure that leaving was the best choice

(08-04-2015 07:10 PM)brob Wrote:  My experience in relationships is that it's basically a constant wave of female influence trying to get you to change your ways, change your lifestyle, and change who you are. Like waves eroding a cliff, over time you are gradually worn down.

You start to hang out with your friends less and less. Your compliance with becoming the man she wants ironically makes you stop being the man she was originally attracted to.

Monogamy has chewed you up and spit you out. You are no longer respected by her. And you are left to pick up the pieces when she leaves you for the alpha male that you used to be.

It's a sad answer and also the truth, a bitter one...
What is described here is the path of the "seasoned players", those who were in it for the thrill but just for a moment, those who, at some point, have been tired and worn out by the Life and have settled down and forget all the teaching they collect through the years.

We already know that she'll be stronger than you in the relationshit as she got the sex card, deprived you sex is all she got but shit!

From Black Players: The Secret World Of Black Pimps Wrote:Squares are thought to be “pussywhipped” by their wives, after having been brain-washed by their mothers to accept female dominance as the natural order of things.
Most families today are controlled by women, who direct the goals and manage the money.
Women are able to achieve this control because square men are weak-minded and sexually undisciplined; by withholding sexual favors, a woman can always get her way.
Square men are familial and of low sexual potency, because their masculinity has been subverted by women and sublimated into work at a castrating “chump job.”

What is one of the manosphere recommendation ?
Keep being unpredictable, keep fucking women on the side if you want or if you care about her put preselection is to your advantage (it doesn't need to be real) because "Women want what other women want" so YOUR weapon is to put the relationship on the cliff.

That's Game101 as WIA already said, do anything you can but never compromised -because she'll fuck you in the ass faster than an inmate out of solitary confinement- she don't want you to do something ? Do it anyway, face her with the result and don't let your resolution wave, she'll thank you after that with some deepthroat and ball tonguing

You already complied to change ? And really who can keep his A-game everytime ?
But she don't know is that you already know (Thanks to RVF) the way she think and you have something for her up your sleeve ready to come at the even slightest deviation...

The result of this is as Travesty said:

(08-04-2015 06:02 PM)Travesty Wrote:  Respect is just the starting point.

Post: #31

(08-04-2015 05:56 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Does what she thinks of you really matter?

Of course.

But it's not entirely under your control.

Every man should be the biggest he can be.

But sometimes the smallest girl can think she's worth the world.

Gotta pick the biggest girl with the smallest eyes.

P

Post: #32

(08-04-2015 05:56 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  From my very extended social circle,

Basically husband and wife are at a cookout, and wifey thinking she's just rapping to her friends and family unloads how she really (? )feels. In that setting, bitches often overplay it for the crowd. Showing out is what we call it. It is what it is.

Husband hears the whole thing real time. If I recall the story right, he lets her go on for a while and then walks into the spot and stops her. He tells her he's leaving.

And that's what he does. He gets up leaves, stops by the house grabs a few things and to the hotel.

Kudos to him.

She of course spends the rest of the time trying to get him back, talking about counseling (lol).

The follow up was that he got a divorce, but had to pay child support.

Best that could be done after being hung out to dry like this.

The question is

Does what she thinks of you really matter?

WIA

It's the most important thing because that defines all interactions and power-dynamics. These in turn will manifest into the behaviour she has towards you.

This is if you both want to be happy and grow together.

It doesn't really matter if she thinks you are a scumbag and comes back to you because your D is too good.

A lot of it has been covered so I will shift the focus slightly.

What her friends think of you will matter a lot too. Just because women are like that.

In the example above, she is telling her friends, to see what they say. It is disrespectful, yes, but she is putting on a show to gauge what her friends think. In a shitty way, it's like she is 'giving' another chance to you by presenting her 'case' to her friends (this is how her womanese brain sees it).

Women don't understand respect the same way us men do.

Military men, sports men, self-made men, anyone who has been in an environment where respect is earned (i.e. man vs other men) instead of given will attain that the understanding is miles apart.

Especially in this day and age where girls are automatically pedestalized and awarded respect on account of.. being a woman.

What she thinks of you comes down to:

- her attraction to you (pedestalization)
- you relative to her other options (value)
- how she pings off you (how you lead her emotions)
- your attractiveness (both of you) and how that manifests in her image (vanity/self-esteem)
- your behaviour and frame (what you tolerate and rules you lay down)
- how good you are at what you do and what sets you apart (why respect you over others)

Ironically, we are still 'earning' the respect.

This will affect how much she respects you which will manifest in turn in her actions.

Going back to your story, a guy wouldn't badmouth because he knows he taints his image. Women don't care because they are auto-entitled to 'respect' within those boundaries. They lose respect by being slutty or in other woman-defined terms which are context-specific.

A guy knows that it takes a lifetime to build a reputation but a moment to ruin it hence our understanding of respect is different.

For me it is important but the hardest thing in my relationship was getting her to understand how respect works on my terms. She had to earn it.

My culture definitely helps as the women in my family 'show' her how to respect and treat a man when she would have difficulty; relationship calibration and learning each others.

Post: #33

(08-04-2015 07:10 PM)brob Wrote:  Like waves eroding a cliff, over time you are gradually worn down.

I must be stubborn, but I don't really get this. Even in my worst 2 and a half year relationship with an overly demanding career hungry sloot, I never changed myself beyond picking up healthy habits like the gym, eating right, and reducing my drinking. If anything, she tried to match my healthy habits but failed miserably.

I'm unfortunately a push over in real life. I sometimes get raw deals with people I don't know which forces me to develop personal relationships of give and take so I can "take" when I need to. In almost any interpersonal relationship, I have a distinct gut reaction to being screwed over or taken advantage of especially when it comes to nagging from a woman.

I dated this solid 8 half white/black girl. Very attractive. She had one of those sweet voiced nags. It was always the same, "Sweetie, lets go get an apartment together (she can't afford it). Lets go on an expensive trip. You should become a vegan with me! Why don't you sell your paid off car and get a new one on credit. Isn't this furniture from Restoration Hardware so lovely, lets get a new bed frame!"

I not only rebuked her very often, I also got a little mean. She broke up with me, we banged it out once, and then she comes running back saying that her life became a unorganized mess (mine was pretty well organized at that point). I said no since when you break up with me it's final. I don't play that game anymore.

I'm incredibly stubborn and the more a woman nags, the harder I dig in and refuse change. Unless it comes from within, it isn't happening. On the flipside, in my current relationship I got my girl to start working harder to lose weight just by saying, "You're fat, lose weight." She wants me to quit biting my nails to which I said sure.

Ok sure, she'll harp on that but we all know the hard truth. Nailing biting on a guy is not nearly as bad as being an over weight woman. I still bite my nails.

TLDR: Women respect stubborn men. Learn to be stubborn.

Post: #34

(08-04-2015 09:56 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-04-2015 09:41 PM)vinman Wrote:  Respect is everything. If a woman doesn't respect you there's nothing that she won't do to you, or allow to be done. Ask yourselves this question. Have you ever fucked another man's woman that respected her man, or her relationship? I can say that I haven't. I've fucked plenty of dudes girls that loved them, but I've never had my dick in a woman that respected her man. Why? Because respect and reverence keeps strange cock out of lizards.

What makes a girl respect her man?

Being consistent in words and actions. You have to be credible at all times. Being with a woman is like working as a guard in a Super Max prison. Keep your head on a swivel, maintain frame, never be a punk, and at all times be aware that you can get shanked if you get caught slipping.

Post: #35

I'll add my 2 cents regarding respect and LTR's:

First off respect is extremely important to me, being disrespected is a fair insult especially by your woman. Now there are different forms when it comes a man doing so.

In my eyes it's a loss of frame and game if she's doing that to you.

Now I've never been married, but the guy in WIA's OP made the right call, even if at the cost of his kids.

My Last LTR:

I was constantly disrespected and shit tested. I let things slide, even when she was "friends with her ex", even when she lied about quitting smoking weed TWICE, even when I spent the night at her house and she didn't come home from a club. There were countless other little things. The "dam finally broke" one night in Vegas when I tossed her phone into water after finding texts on her phone. She was super materialistic and expected the best, she might of enjoyed the little things, but she wanted to lead the life her friend did, who posed for a nudie magazine.

My current LTR:

It's been a year and a half, not sure if we're past the honeymoon stage or if it's normal. But someone mentioned a girl needs to be borderline obsessed with you in order not to be disrespected - I think this might be it.

I don't get shit tested by her often, we don't argue much, I can think of 3 instances - the only time i've ever seen her blacked out drunk - it's never happened again.

Another time she was upset because I didn't tell her I love her back because I said "I know" thanks Han Solo. (Remember, whom who cares less holds the power in the relationship)

The last time was because she walked away from me when I jokingly said "I'm used to digging through girls purses". (Clearly she can get jealous, I always make jokes about hiding a girl, or getting her out before my main comes through)

We don't bicker about anything (yet), we only see each other 2 maybe 3 times a week. We go out and do shit, we've traveled together, we go to shows, sometimes - we don't do a damn thing and lay there in bed just enjoying each others company.

Back to respect:
If I ever tell her not to do something, she won't ever again, she's definitely obsessed with me, Latin girls are like that (I've noticed that trend).

My friends love her, my regular bar loves her, an important factor is I'm known around town because of a certain cool place I manage that get's a lot of foot traffic. It's a running joke that if I go to a remote island that I'd know someone. So that gives me a certain amount of respect and cred.

She knows and I've said this publicly- that if she fucks up she's gone and I won't have any reservations about it. I always joke with her that she's replaceable.

You just can't lose your frame, the game that got her is the game that keeps her.

One poster said that you should be able to cruise on B- game and up it to A game when needed - that's a great viewpoint.

Post: #36

(08-04-2015 05:56 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  The question is

Does what she thinks of you really matter?

WIA

Her ass and her respect...what else do I need or want her for?

Edit: If I don't have both then by definition she's then just another of the billions of women that don't matter to me

Post: #37

...there's still a wide gap between a LTR and a marriage

In an ideal LTR both people can go to their respective corners to cool off, maybe even take a few days between contact

As a man, you have time to reflect, recompose, and re-initiate contact if you so choose. Much easier to hold frame a couple times a week, besides those hours are usually spent doing fun shit and being active.

That's why when you have a live-in it's referred to as "playing house", ideally you are amping up the cool stuff and leaving the everyday minutiae (hard work) aside.

Most of any marriage occurs mostly outside of the bedroom, hard for any guy to maintain reverence in the eyes of his woman. She studies him when he wakes up, and when he retires for the evening. Many times - with a critical eye.

For a married man, there is very little in the way of reprieve. Sure, you can go to the "man cave" and kill a few hours, or escape to the gym but just like an unpaid bill she'll be right there once you get back. She expects her problems to be yours. Once you throw kids into that mix, then most men feel an extra obligation to stick around.

A man's fortitude is tested daily in a marriage that's short on respect, that's why most guys can't hack it

Post: #38

So much great wisdom in this thread. But as a young guy I still can't understand why people would even consider getting married nowadays.

Don't make Permanent Decisions Based on Temporary Feelings.

Why would a man take away one of his greatest strengths( The Ability to walk away from a bad situation) just so he could get married to someone he loves at the moment.

Getting Married is a Lose Lose situation. The odds are stacked against many men for the marriage to go bad after a few years in today's society.

Post: #39

(08-05-2015 11:15 AM)vinman Wrote:  

(08-04-2015 09:56 PM)Travesty Wrote:  

(08-04-2015 09:41 PM)vinman Wrote:  Respect is everything. If a woman doesn't respect you there's nothing that she won't do to you, or allow to be done. Ask yourselves this question. Have you ever fucked another man's woman that respected her man, or her relationship? I can say that I haven't. I've fucked plenty of dudes girls that loved them, but I've never had my dick in a woman that respected her man. Why? Because respect and reverence keeps strange cock out of lizards.

What makes a girl respect her man?

Being consistent in words and actions. You have to be credible at all times. Being with a woman is like working as a guard in a Super Max prison. Keep your head on a swivel, maintain frame, never be a punk, and at all times be aware that you can get shanked if you get caught slipping.

And being able to say no every once in a while. Not all the time, just once in a while for stuff big and small.

Post: #40

(08-05-2015 03:33 PM)Just Approach Wrote:  Getting Married is a Lose Lose situation. The odds are stacked against many men for the marriage to go bad after a few years in today's society.

It is, be glad you are seeing that now. Truthfully most people get married because they need help in paying the rent, or they really hate themselves. Nothing will destroy your potential as a man, or your wealth, faster than marriage. Be glad you know this now because most arn't so lucky.

Post: #41

(08-06-2015 12:51 AM)Vaun Wrote:  

(08-05-2015 03:33 PM)Just Approach Wrote:  Getting Married is a Lose Lose situation. The odds are stacked against many men for the marriage to go bad after a few years in today's society.

It is, be glad you are seeing that now. Truthfully most people get married because they need help in paying the rent, or they really hate themselves. Nothing will destroy your potential as a man, or your wealth, faster than marriage. Be glad you know this now because most arn't so lucky.

I find that after hearing years of years of older guys telling me their stories both good and horror stories about marriage the following seems to be a reoccuring reason they get married.

Married because they don't put in the work to find someone that they truly like long term.
Attempt to lock a girl down thinking that she won't cheat on him if they are married.

Lack of self confidence which makes them end up settling for less.

The pressure by friends and family to get married to a girl for various reasons even deep down they feel otherwise.

They are afraid of being alone.

Their happiness depends on being in a relationship with someone.

They think once they get married they can have sex whenever they want or that the amount of times they have sex will increase.

And others rushed their way into marriage ignoring red flags.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just Approach 1 Day At A Time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Post: #42

(08-06-2015 01:54 AM)Just Approach Wrote:  I find that after hearing years of years of older guys telling me their stories both good and horror stories about marriage the following seems to be a reoccuring reason they get married.

Married because they don't put in the work to find someone that they truly like long term.
Attempt to lock a girl down thinking that she won't cheat on him if they are married.

Lack of self confidence which makes them end up settling for less.

The pressure by friends and family to get married to a girl for various reasons even deep down they feel otherwise.

They are afraid of being alone.

Their happiness depends on being in a relationship with someone.

They think once they get married they can have sex whenever they want or that the amount of times they have sex will increase.

And others rushed their way into marriage ignoring red flags.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Just Approach 1 Day At A Time ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I know multiple guys who have gotten married so they could immediately buy a house with a mortgage based on the now joint-income. Because renting is "throwing money away". Obviously no pre-nup or anything. The mind boggles...

Post: #43

(08-04-2015 11:42 PM)nek Wrote:  

(08-04-2015 11:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  In my world respect is not everything it is the ONLY thing.

I was raised by a Sicilian American Korean War veteran - I learned that if you disrespect or humiliate any other man even in jest you make a mortal enemy for life - eventually it becomes his mission to get even even it it takes years - the longer it takes the sweeter the revenge.

The man is the builder and architect of his family and the woman is the foundation upon which you build it.

There are 5 Sicilian rules and the rules are like bricks they build upon one an other. Pull out a brick and the wall or family crumbles.

Love - base brick

Honor - second brick she always honors your wishes

Respect - she even slightly disrespects you once you call her on it in a firm even harsh manner and make it clear it will never happen again - like a corrective jerk on a disobedient dog. She dares do it again and its hasta la vista time to make like a ghost - NEXT.

Loyalty - She is either on your Team or she is not. She can't serve more than one master and can't be on more than one team at a time period.

Fidelity - (The woman you invest everything in to build a family cheats on you the solution is severe - it is called a Sicilian divorce for a reason).

Also the 11th commandment is you never knowingly make a mortal enemy out of any man and never let any man make a mortal enemy out of you because if you must dig one grave be sure to dig two. The wisdom of the ancients is true and harsh.

If a woman was raised right she will know these rules instinctively and she will be on your team and your team only win or lose. No one bats 1,000 in life and no one hits every shot they take - what matters is you stay in the game and keep taking your shots sooner or later with practice you win more than you lose.

I can honestly say that the reason I have never been married or divorced nor have any child support or alimony is that it is damn near impossible to find a woman in America who consciously or subconsciously passes these crucial rules or tests. And that includes 3rd generation Sicilian and Italian women who take to 3rd Wave SJW feminism like fish to water. I do not know any one man who married young and had their marriage last in a happy manner. Divorce rate on Nuke Subs was 80% - even defending your country or especially when defending your country absence makes the ginas tingle and grow fonder for cock close to home. I promised myself then I would never be a nuke cruise cuckold. Served me well my entire life.

I will also say i was unknowingly a red pill man all my life because of my respect training at an early age and you have to train your woman to respect you like you train a retriever... just like a loyal dog it is your job as the master of your house and home to train them as to what is acceptable behavior and what is not. You would not tolerate a dog no matter how loving if they crapped in your kitchen or pissed on your couch daily - they would get immediate correction and remedial obedience training.

As has been said you can not yell at them - you can not bitch slap them or whip them as men were expected to in colonial times - what you can do is call them out especially on issues of love, honor, respect, loyalty and fidelity... I can never remember a woman dissing me in front of other people because I never let it get that far - I play on the two strikes and you are out rule - first time they violate an initial rule I immediately and firmly call them out with something harsh like "WTF was that ?" I would never do that to you - respect is everything in my world, you want to keep me in your life that WILL NEVER happen again! What you can do is dump their disrespectful ass and elevate the next one in rotation.

The fact that it even ever gets to a WTF moment is a big red flag and I begin to work new and better females in rotation in case. Something as simple as putting a slore GF call or hookup in higher priority to when I am available is disrespectful and unacceptable, heading down to the cape partying with a Slorey GF and even rumors of bang-a-thons from other people I know at these parties while I have to work and its NEXT - she goes on vacation with a slut GF to some notorius bang beach you got it - it is NEXT. If she really wants to be wife material she will never step out of line on you before marriage and especially so after marriage - so if they ever step out of line I would just get in a few rounds of revenge sex while I bring up the next loyal bitch retriever in rotation (loyal female dog analogy here) in all due RESPECT.

Sounds harsh but a loyal dog will sleep at the foot of your bed and protect you while you sleep with their life if necessary - the literal definition of a loyal ride or die Bitch - any thing less is completely unacceptable. I was like this even when I was in the service since I was 19 years old thanks to my tough love upbringing. The rules are not everything they are the only thing that matters if you want to be a real Alpha neoman.

Of course if you do get one good woman who passes all the tests and you decide to take the oath the rules work both ways. i did not make the rules I just follow them.

Can you explain the bold part in better detail? Seems interesting and my mental faculties are a little foggy these days.

This is ancient Sicilian and now LCN wisdom - it means before you take another mans life be sure to dig a grave for both him and yourself - because the people and family you take him from will immediately want revenge and swear a vendetta against you and your family - this is why vendettas last for generations...

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Knowing what we all know about western marriages and feminist run family and divorce courts this is the one time I explain the concept of a Sicilian divorce to the snowflakes/prospective wives.

I explain that in my world a man can not be put in charge of other men if he can not control the women in his life and then I explain what is expected in marriage - the vows are for life and the severe consequences for betrayal and also the rewards for loyalty.

I do this in private with no TV or radio and no distractions I look directly into their eyes and make sure they are paying attention and that know this is serious... I tell them that if they would ever consider divorce as an option then now is the time for them to walk away otherwise they have been warned of the consequences and that I would do what I have to do.

On the practical side of things I have also added dog women to my list of tolerable women because women who can bond with a dog and love and care for them can also bond with a man... the ones who can't won't - I once dated a driven career sloot that just had to have a dog and after six months decided it was too much to care for and turned it in to the humane society and it was terminated - she paid for the execution fee... I was dumbfounded at the cold ruthless and selfishness in her behavior and needless to say the relationship ended not too long after that.

Post: #45

(08-04-2015 11:24 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  In my world respect is not everything it is the ONLY thing.

This pretty much sums it all up for me. If a woman doesn't respect you she's a complete and utter waste of your time. Drop her immediately. If you have ever been with a woman who truly respects you, you know exactly what I'm talking about. This isn't rocket science.

Ok, so what are the basic tenets of respect in a relationship?

1. Women who respect their men never sell them out to their family or friends. Period.

They may complain about how you never do X, Y, or Z. They may even harbor ill will toward you at times... but they never share their most private feelings and inner thoughts to their friends and loved ones, much less publicly to a group of people (or worse, strangers). I've had women who swore their friends and family would sell them out if they knew certain details about me and still stuck around.

2. Women who respect their men listen to them.

This is an easy thing to simply say, but in reality women are often more concerned with thinking about what they have to say next than listening to you. Listening is not hearing. Woman who listen to you get it. They resonate with and complement you. They want to know what's going on in your life and believe you add value to their own.

3. Women who respect their men focus on the positive aspects of the relationship.

Too many women dwell on what they think their man isn't doing (i.e. taking her out to a nice restaurant, a trip, or buying her flowers, whatever), or what is going on in someone else's relationship. Good women tune out all that background noise and enjoy your company.

4. Women who respect their men always have their back.

She'll take a bullet for you... pick a fight someone who disrespected you... or in my case threaten to "cut a bitch." Now this is where there is a fine line between respect and crazy. And gentlemen, as a matter of preference I leave it up to you to decide where you draw that line.

5. Women who respect their men always keep them satisfied in the sack.

This should be common sense, but what many guys have never had is a woman who truly puts her man's animalistic sexual needs before her own. The key here is that this isn't short term behavior. There are so many women out there who will put on a mask / front and give you what you think is the best sex of your life until she thinks she has you by the balls. And then my brothers, your sex life evaporates into thin air. Those are absolutely the types of women you want to weed out, avoid like the plague, and once identified... drop at all costs.

So what do you do when you find a woman who you're attracted to, isn't crazy, satisfies you in the sack, complements your life, and genuinely respects you? Hang the fuck on to her.

Women out there, that's how you snag a man and keep him. Unfortunately, respect isn't something that can necessarily be taught.

Post: #46

Respect is a two way street, so if you both don't have respect
for each other along with genuine compassion then your relationship
will be doomed from the start.

As a Man though, the way you get respect, is by choosing the right woman.
The wrong woman doesn't understand concepts like respect and kindness.

The right woman will do her best to make you happy. This is assuming that you're
doing your part as well.

As for sex, personally it goes back to choosing the right woman. Here in Germany
you have a lot of couples who stay together for 5-7 years before getting married...
just to make sure they have the right person. I personally think it's kinda extreme
but there is some wisdom in it.