Post: #276

Is Sanders dead yet? No? How about tomorrow?

Post: #277

The spank Pr0n that Bernie wrote in the early 70's is just starting to emerge. He's told several interviewers how it embarrasses him. I find it strange Master Roosh is racked over the coals for the same thing Bernie receives a pass.

Post: #278

(02-11-2016 08:37 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  Short of being caught on video accepting bags of cash or cocaine while cackling maniacally, it is heard for me to imagine how HRC could make herself look any more corrupt, insincere, or cynical at this point.

I actually laughed at that image, and I could totally see it happening.

Post: #279

Sanders just came out and said he is going to use executive order to grant amnesty and path to citizenship to every illegal. It wasn't that long ago that Sanders admitted that immigration has a very serious, negative effect on the wages and living standards of Americans, but apparently this no longer matters.

I've been saying this from the beginning: this man is a cancer. If Hillary is lung cancer, this bolshevik is metastatic pancreatic cancer with a 0% 5year survival rate. And for anyone that thinks he is "principled," get a reality check. A few months ago he was talking how immigration is bad for Americans, now he is promising to use executive orders to make every illegal a citizen.

Trump>>>>>>>>>>Hillary>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sanders

Post: #280

(02-11-2016 11:32 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Sanders just came out and said he is going to use executive order to grant amnesty and path to citizenship to every illegal. It wasn't that long ago that Sanders admitted that immigration has a very serious, negative effect on the wages and living standards of Americans, but apparently this no longer matters.

I've been saying this from the beginning: this man is a cancer. If Hillary is lung cancer, this Bolshevik is metastatic pancreatic cancer with a 0% 5 year survival rate. And for anyone that thinks he is "principled," get a reality check. A few months ago he was talking how immigration is bad for Americans, now he is promising to use executive orders to make every illegal a citizen.

Trump>>>>>>>>>>Hillary>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sanders

Plus he added that we should accept and pay Turkey and EU for as many radical islamist rapefugee ISIS sympathizers and supporters as possible...

Bernie has to take the gloves off and when Hillary brags about Arab Spring and the Iran Nuclear $150 Billion payoff deal reinforce that she and Obama are personally responsible for creating ISIS and now they both want to import them here.

What I heard in their mutual Saul Alinsky Rules for Radicals militant SJW position are a Trillion dollars in new Social Security taxes with no income limits and adding "passive income" that is your retirement savings and 401K accounts and Government Jobs for more Affirmative action hiring officers in every company and business and institution in the USA - Militant BLM quota enforcement officers, Militant Female Equal Pay enforcement officers and Militant Pro LGBTQ Quota Enforcement officers as well as enforcement of subsidized mortgages and housing lending and projects in every Gentrified Urban and Suburban and Rural neighborhood in the USA. Militant Enforcement Officers committees will be required to approve the sale of every business, Apt Bldg, Condo, CoOp and Home in the USA.

Add on mandatory Climate Change enforcement officers and massive Oil Gas and Coal punitive Carbon Tax Enforcement officers.

The hypocrisy of HRC talking about Coal Country poverty when her beloved Obamunists shut down the nations coal industry and refuse to build Oil and Gas pipelines and storage facilities to supply cheap US produced gas and oil for the entire USA further minimizing the need to have an entire fleet and armies in the Middle East and Persian Gulf to protect their Oil industries that have been gouging the USA as an illegal cartel ever since the end of WWII.

We will see the USA turned into a surveillance and enforcement state that even George Orwell could not imagine.

Instead of creating a pro business pro private sectors jobs and taxation environment that has per Bernie Sanders in previous speeches seen 60,000 USA manufacturing companies and entire factories moved lock stock and barrel to China and Hillary Praising Henry the King Kissinger for this - their polices will accelerate the offshoring of not only the remaining manufacturers add in the Services and Investments industries - NYSE and NASDAQ and the Chicago Mercatile and Commodities exchanges will all implement plans to "globalize" as well with just the mention of a new Speculation Tax that will need 100,000 new IRS and SEC agents - more Government Enforcement jobs to implement.

Lastly HRC keeps bragging about her and Obama's support of the Dodd Frank act to prevent TBTF Banks from posing a systemic risk when the unintended consequence - more likely intended consequence was to collapse a vast number of Community Saving Banks that have crushed small business lending and further destroyed Main Street jobs... HRC is incredibly dishonest about the cost of her programs to "insure" the remaining uninsured 29 Million Americans - most who can not afford $500 per moth Unaffordable Care Act Insurance with $2500 annual $6000 per family of 4 deductibles and TAXES on any of the better plans.

They will raise Social Security Taxes by more than double and increase our highest in the world Personal and Business Taxes...

I would like to see these dingbats and moonbats actually sit down and write up a basic business plan that any Community College entrepreneurial class teaches with all of the Federal, State and local Taxes and Regulations that any Company is forced to pay at the threat of a SWAT enforcement action and then explain the real impact their policies have had on offshore acceleration and destruction of main street and corporate jobs across the entire nation. They would all be failed before they started. These two are both blatant Globalists masquerading as populists and of the two Hitlery is the worst taking huuuge donations for her PAC which she says is Obama's that now supports her and for her CGI foundation from the likes of George Soros and other anti American globalist Elites.

Both HRC and Feel the Bern will set fire to your wallets and savings and retirement accounts and force a SJW collapse of America which is their true intended Saul Alinsky Ruled by Radicals agenda.

Either one of these horrors are elected and I will be looking to relocate overseas...

Post: #281

(02-11-2016 11:32 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Sanders just came out and said he is going to use executive order to grant amnesty and path to citizenship to every illegal. It wasn't that long ago that Sanders admitted that immigration has a very serious, negative effect on the wages and living standards of Americans, but apparently this no longer matters.

I've been saying this from the beginning: this man is a cancer. If Hillary is lung cancer, this bolshevik is metastatic pancreatic cancer with a 0% 5year survival rate. And for anyone that thinks he is "principled," get a reality check. A few months ago he was talking how immigration is bad for Americans, now he is promising to use executive orders to make every illegal a citizen.

Trump>>>>>>>>>>Hillary>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sanders

I really don't understand when people try and blame the Democrats or the Republicans or a specific politician for the illegal immigration crisis.

It's a very simple problem with a very simple solution, no wall or complex legislation needed.

Why do illegal immigrants come? Because they are offered jobs.

Why are they offered jobs? Because it is very profitable for powerful economic interests to do so, and they never get punished.

How to stop this? Start imposing huge fines for employing an illegal immigrant, say 20 grand first offense per worker, 50 grand second offense per worker, and third offense loss of business license. Make sure that large companies are legally responsible for what their subcontractors do, so companies like Purdue chicken can't employ thousands of illegals all the while claiming they have no idea or responsibility.

Why doesn't this happen? Because powerful economic interests have donated massive amounts of money to both democrats and republicans.

Hillary is no different or better than Sanders when it comes to immigration.

As for Trump, I wonder what he actually thinks. Cheap illegal immigrant labor has been used in the construction of various properties he has built. Illegal immigrants have cleaned and maintained his properties. Of course all under the control of "independent contractors" so he can claim he knew nothing about it. For a guy that smart with money, I find it hard to believe he wouldn't know about that kind of stuff. Using experienced union labor is much more expensive than picking up Juan and Jose from in front of the local home depot. More than likely, he sought out the low bidder for tons of work, knowing full well that the only way a contractor could meet his estimated cost and still profit would be by cutting corners on labor.

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Post: #283

^^^

Hehehe. I heard the exact same thing from some wealthy jews from NYC I talked to a couple days ago. Basically they want an out for not supporting Sanders. They can't come out and say that they don't want to vote for him because they are concerned about their own narrow economic interests (inheritance taxes, capital gains, etc), and that these are more important than any religious/ethnic consideration, so the current line is that Sanders is somehow not Jewish enough.

Post: #284

Jews are over represented among famous communist figures though.

Post: #285

Sanders knows it would be a liability, just like Bloomberg did:

Quote: Bloomberg on De Basio using his mixed family in campaigning

"Well, no, no, I mean he's making an appeal using his family to gain support. I think it's pretty obvious to anyone watching what he's been doing. I do not think he himself is racist. It's comparable to me pointing out I'm Jewish in attracting the Jewish vote. You tailor messages to your audiences and address issues you think your audience cares about."

Which ironic, because the lack of jewish support for Bernie is primarily why Bloomberg wants to run.

Post: #286

One of the reasons Romney a Mormon lost is because 8 to 10 million evangelicals stayed home rather than vote in their minds for a Cultist. Of course that is among Republicans.

Clearly the 85% of young liberal females in lily white old Yankee and French Canadian New Hampshire who voted for Bernie instead of Cruella Rodham DeVille says volumes... Perhaps his father changed his family Polish Jewish name decades ago to "Sanders" when he first came to America to start a new life. Bernie is married to an Irish Catholic is non secular Jewish and admires Pope Francis in many public statements and interviews.

So the only woman's demographic Hillary won is the over 65 senior women basically her own age cohort.

Bernie won College Students by a significant proportion as well.

I am a Trump supporter but even I have listened to Bernie's points and the Trump and GOP are going to have to have a laser like focus on Trumps positive points and minimize his negatives to win against a Hillary/Sanders ticket assuming the national Polls are right and the Matriarch of the Coven of Chappaqua wins the Democratic nomination for POTUS...

Which seems 50/50 if the FBI ever finishes their investigation and Grand Jury indictments which some of the most powerful Global Elitists are doing their best to make go away in classic Clintonesque above the law behavior. Amazing what power can do and the life you can lead when your are a lying sociopath doing the bidding of the one world government Globalist elites GOP and DEM.

Post: #287

^^^

Interesting post Deepdiver. I hadn't really given much thought to choice of VP.

I can't imagine either Sanders or HRC would accept being the other's VP.

I think the most likely choice for Sanders is either Elizabeth Warren or a southern Blue Dog democrat.

As for HRC, I still think it is very unlikely she gets the nomination. If she does though, expect her to commission some polls, and pick some beta male from a battleground state, likely Florida.

And Trump? Maybe Chris Christie as VP? He seems like a good political operative, someone who could compliment Trump well.

Since you are a Trump supporter, you should be hoping HRC gets the nomination. He would shred her. On the other hand, I think he would have a very tough time against Sanders.

One of the things that makes Sanders such a tough candidate to run against is that he has by far the largest number of individual donors, few of whom are at the maximum donation limit, and a nearly bottomless pool of social media savvy young people eager to volunteer for his campaign. I think it will be very interesting to see the upcoming voting results. So far polls have been pretty inaccurate.

Post: #288

Sanders will not win. America is still too afraid of socialism and Trump or anybody competent can easily make it known that Sanders will not be able to push congress to do anything, especially when it raises their own taxes.

Bernie is a pipe dream and that's why he still has long shot odds.

To add to that, Bloomberg will run if Bernie wins the nomination.

Post: #289

However a Clinton/Sanders ticket would be formidable with Women, Beta Males, Lefties and College/SITC new to the workforce cohorts of cubicle queens.

I have heard some vicious visceral attacks against Trump from younger 30 something guys I formerly respected and have heard nothing of the same about Bernie who comes across as the likable old professor who does not treat you like crap.

Trump one slip up and you know you are FIRED.

So the amount of hostility against Trump is surprisingly significant which is why Kasich a bumbly hand waving basically likable guy who is in fact Governor of Ohio would counter Trumps negatives and carry a major swing state as VP.

Keep in mind that as a patriot I can not be bullshitted by the rhetoric of fake patriots ( I met Rand Paul shook his hand and had a photo with him and he is a true genuine decent human being but violates Scott Adams rules of persuasion and gets to deep in the weeds and rational discourse and does not click on a subconscious "he is one of us" affiliation level like Trump and Bernie do. I was also opened minded and met Ted Cruz before Trump declared at a small event in Nashua NH and was 4 feet from him and he made my skin crawl with his slimy slick lawyer honed tell them what you have to to get elected style - plus he was shorter than me - Cruz is a runt) and the only other true patriot is Donald Trump who is for America first and not a Soros open borders unlimited immigration pro islamist Globalist like all of the rest of the GOP and DEMs.

Post: #290

(02-12-2016 12:58 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  However a Clinton/Sanders ticket would be formidable with Women, Beta Males, Lefties and College/SITC new to the workforce cohorts of cubicle queens.

I have heard some vicious visceral attacks against Trump from younger 30 something guys I formerly respected and have heard nothing of the same about Bernie who comes across as the likable old professor who does not treat you like crap.

Trump one slip up and you know you are FIRED.

So the amount of hostility against Trump is surprisingly significant which is why Kasich a bumbly hand waving basically likable guy who is in fact Governor of Ohio would counter Trumps negatives and carry a major swing state as VP.

Keep in mind that as a patriot I can not be bullshitted by the rhetoric of fake patriots ( I met Rand Paul shook his hand and had a photo with him and he is a true genuine decent human being but violates Scott Adams rules of persuasion and gets to deep in the weeds and rational discourse and does not click on a subconscious "he is one of us" affiliation level like Trump and Bernie do. I was also opened minded and met Ted Cruz before Trump declared at a small event in Nashua NH and was 4 feet from him and he made my skin crawl with his slimy slick lawyer honed tell them what you have to to get elected style - plus he was shorter than me - Cruz is a runt) and the only other true patriot is Donald Trump who is for America first and not a Soros open borders unlimited immigration pro islamist Globalist like all of the rest of the GOP and DEMs.

A Clinton/Sanders ticket...shit. That would be a good one to unite all the SJWs.

Sidenote, why hasn't black lives matter endorsed Ben Carson yet?

Post: #291

There was a Bernie Sanders meeting at a campus I was at.

It read:
"Come support Bernie! Free pizza! Free swag!"

This sort of stupidity encapsulates the mindset of his millennial supporters.

I tore it off and tossed it in the trash

Post: #292

(02-12-2016 04:13 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  There was a Bernie Sanders meeting at a campus I was at.

It read:
"Come support Bernie! Free pizza! Free swag!"

This sort of stupidity encapsulates the mindset of his millennial supporters.

I tore it off and tossed it in the trash

Doesn't mean it won't work.

It's been a long time since I was at university, but if someone was offering me a free pizza and a free t-shirt, plus the chance to possibly bang naive idealistic 20 year old sluts, I'm sure I would have showed up.

Don't underestimate Sanders and his organization.

Nothing happens by accident or in a vacuum.

I decided to do some research, because I'm curious about how Sanders has achieved what he has, and I think I found part of the answer. And it isn't because millennials are stupid lemmings.

His name is Tad Devine and he is a senior adviser to the Sanders campaign. Apparently he is one of the very best there is at what he does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tad_Devine

Quote:Thomas A. "Tad" Devine (born June 11, 1955)[1] is an American political consultant. Devine was a senior adviser in Al Gore's 2000 and John Kerry's 2004 Presidential campaigns.[2] He currently is a senior adviser for Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.[3] He has worked on ten winning campaigns for President and Prime Minister around the world and 17 winning U.S. Senate races. Devine is currently the president of Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, a Washington D.C.-based media consulting firm. In October 2010, he was recognized as one of "the nation's most respected media consultants" by USA Today.[4]

Al Gore was a bad candidate with zero charisma, and won the popular vote. And John Kerry was an elitist turd/fraud and only lost by 2.4% against an incumbent president. So the guy seems able to work with anyone. And I'd say that Sanders is better starting material than either Gore or Kerry in terms of his public speaking/authenticity/ability to connect with his target voting blocks.

And get this, Tad Devine signed on to work for Sanders all the way back in November 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...-2016-run/

So, far from the image of Sanders as some clueless socialist who has basically come from being a dead broke nobody a few months ago, in fact he is a savvy operator who has had top notch planning and advice from the start.

Post: #293

George Washington liquored up his supporters with free booze.

Quote:Washington biographer Dennis Pogue, vice president of preservation at Washington's home of Mount Vernon, reveals that the father of the nation lost his first campaign in 1755 to the House of Burgesses largely because he didn't put on an alcohol-laden circus at the polls. That year, Washington got 40 votes. The winner, who plied voters with beer, whiskey, rum punch, and wine, got 271 votes.

A quick learner, Washington won three years later with the help of alcohol. "What do you know, he was successful and got 331 votes," says Pogue, author of the new book Founding Spirits: George Washington and the Beginnings of the American Whiskey Industry.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washing...with-booze

Election Day used to be an excuse to get drunk.

Post: #294

(02-12-2016 05:04 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

(02-12-2016 04:13 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  There was a Bernie Sanders meeting at a campus I was at.

It read:
"Come support Bernie! Free pizza! Free swag!"

This sort of stupidity encapsulates the mindset of his millennial supporters.

I tore it off and tossed it in the trash

Doesn't mean it won't work.

It's been a long time since I was at university, but if someone was offering me a free pizza and a free t-shirt, plus the chance to possibly bang naive idealistic 20 year old sluts, I'm sure I would have showed up.

Don't underestimate Sanders and his organization.

Nothing happens by accident or in a vacuum.

I decided to do some research, because I'm curious about how Sanders has achieved what he has, and I think I found part of the answer. And it isn't because millennials are stupid lemmings.

His name is Tad Devine and he is a senior adviser to the Sanders campaign. Apparently he is one of the very best there is at what he does.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tad_Devine

Quote:Thomas A. "Tad" Devine (born June 11, 1955)[1] is an American political consultant. Devine was a senior adviser in Al Gore's 2000 and John Kerry's 2004 Presidential campaigns.[2] He currently is a senior adviser for Bernie Sanders' 2016 presidential campaign.[3] He has worked on ten winning campaigns for President and Prime Minister around the world and 17 winning U.S. Senate races. Devine is currently the president of Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, a Washington D.C.-based media consulting firm. In October 2010, he was recognized as one of "the nation's most respected media consultants" by USA Today.[4]

Al Gore was a bad candidate with zero charisma, and won the popular vote. And John Kerry was an elitist turd/fraud and only lost by 2.4% against an incumbent president. So the guy seems able to work with anyone. And I'd say that Sanders is better starting material than either Gore or Kerry in terms of his public speaking/authenticity/ability to connect with his target voting blocks.

And get this, Tad Devine signed on to work for Sanders all the way back in November 2014.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...-2016-run/

So, far from the image of Sanders as some clueless socialist who has basically come from being a dead broke nobody a few months ago, in fact he is a savvy operator who has had top notch planning and advice from the start.

Gore should've won that election easily. Coming out of the 90's being vice president to a then extremely popular president, he blew it. Kerry was an all around shitty candidate.

Millennials don't decide elections here, it's the 60+ crowd that gets out and votes. Young people just don't give enough of a fuck to spend 10 mins voting.

You don't live in the US do you, Europe right? Which makes the views you have easier to understand. You really don't understand how much socialists are disliked in this country by anyone over the age of 35. My grandpa, the raging liberal that he is said if Bernie gets the nomination, he'll either not vote, or vote Bloomberg if he runs. This says a lot to me, since I thought he would vote for blue no matter what considering he's only voted for one republican his entire life, that being Nixon.

I'm trying to save you the money you bet. Sanders will not win the election. I guarantee it. A gay muslim would beat a socialist/communist in a general election in this country. But hey, if you have money to throw away, have at it.

Post: #295

Yahoo! has gone absolutely apesh*t over the Bern. Every time I sign on to check an old email I use, there is some shining picture of him on there. Of course, Yahoo! ceased to be of significance years ago, so consider the source.

Post: #296

Trump called him an out and out communist at today's rally.

Post: #297

I agree with captain Shane. In the US socialism is a hop, skip and a jump from communism. Adding that, Bloomberg will run third party if Bernie wins the nomination, which would ensure his defeat. That being said, I'm in my early 20s and the love Bernie gets is hard to fathom. His supporters don't care about the facts or understand economics. For example, when asked how he would get republican governors to help fund free university admission he couldn't comment.

Post: #298

(02-12-2016 06:59 PM)captain_shane Wrote:  Gore should've won that election easily. Coming out of the 90's being vice president to a then extremely popular president, he blew it. Kerry was an all around shitty candidate.

Millennials don't decide elections here, it's the 60+ crowd that gets out and votes. Young people just don't give enough of a fuck to spend 10 mins voting.

You don't live in the US do you, Europe right? Which makes the views you have easier to understand. You really don't understand how much socialists are disliked in this country by anyone over the age of 35. My grandpa, the raging liberal that he is said if Bernie gets the nomination, he'll either not vote, or vote Bloomberg if he runs. This says a lot to me, since I thought he would vote for blue no matter what considering he's only voted for one republican his entire life, that being Nixon.

I'm trying to save you the money you bet. Sanders will not win the election. I guarantee it. A gay muslim would beat a socialist/communist in a general election in this country. But hey, if you have money to throw away, have at it.

I currently live in Europe, but I'm American and have lived a majority of my life in the USA, read a lot, and have a respectable understanding of social and political trends over the past century.

There is a lot of doubt about whether or not Gore actually did win the 2000 election, but since a full recount was not allowed in Florida, we will never know. That being said, if he had managed to win his home state (4% loss), it wouldn't have mattered. And yes, Gore should have won by a large margin. He had a lot of advantages. But people just didn't like him very much. Maybe the contrast between his personality and the charismatic Clinton was too great.

Also, I think young people will play a significant role in this election. They are really excited about Sanders. Since they don't have to work on Tuesday, it isn't hard to bus them to the polls. Expect Bernie election parties on nearly every single campus in the United States, with free food and free buses to the polls. People will do it because it is the cool thing to do.

According to the traditional definitions of communism and socialism, Sanders doesn't qualify. Perhaps as a lightweight socialist. I don't think there has ever been a real communist country anyway, they always end up as military dictatorships with a rapacious elite living like kings.

It seems we have a legitimate difference of opinion. I don't need you to save me money. I already bet more. The ball is in your court, feel free to bet for someone else.

And Bloomberg is not really a factor. He has almost no appeal outside of New York. In a Trump - Bloomberg - Sanders matchup, Sanders would still win. Trump would carry the middle of the road republican vote, while suffering from depressed turnout from evangelicals, who don't like him. Bloomberg would get some moderate/liberal republicans and a few protest independents like your Grandpa. Sanders would get a huge swell of support from the traditional democratic base as well as independents who have been hurting and poor since 2008. A lot of people are really really angry about the economic manipulation by elites, no one getting punished for the 2008 crash, rising income inequality, and think that the system needs to change dramatically, and Sanders hammers home on that and gets a lot of support. It is a simple message, and one that people respond to, whether or not it is true or good for the country.

Post: #299

^^Couldn't agree more, it's a very simple message. "Free Shit!"

Post: #300

"Just cuck my shit up, fam!" - Bernie people, 2016