Post: #201

If marijuana legalization is one of your main concerns at this dark time in our history please don't vote, way more important shit to worry about.

Personally I'm perfectly happy smoking my illegal herb, as long as this country gets back on track.

Edit: meant to quote EDantes on prior page

Post: #202

One's immediate personal safety and not being dragged out of their house (or car) and thrown into prison is, of course, a top priority.

Trump favors state's rights on this issue. In the past he's spoken more boldly by favoring legalization to take away the profit source for the cartels.

http://lisafrequency.newsvine.com/_news/...aily-beast

I've been clear right in this thread, and on other threads, Trump is my #1 candidate. You're telling me not to vote?

I don't think you thought this through.

(01-30-2016 03:43 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  If marijuana legalization is one of your main concerns at this dark time in our history please don't vote, way more important shit to worry about.

Personally I'm perfectly happy smoking my illegal herb, as long as this country gets back on track.

Edit: meant to quote EDantes on prior page

Post: #203

(01-29-2016 11:04 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  

(01-29-2016 09:10 AM)scotian Wrote:  I didn't know who Sanders was until a few months ago and didn't realize how much of an unaccomplished loser the guy is, literally a welfare bum who never held a steady job until he was 40! I learned that from this article: Bernie Sanders, The Bum Who Wants Your Money.

Bernie Sanders makes me laugh. If you've ever spent time around NY liberals you'd understand where he's coming from.

He's absolutely a typical degenerate NY limousine liberal who talks up all kinds of unrealistic idealistic bullshit but doesn't actually do anything.

They also tend to develop a sense of what's right for them and what's right for you which can be very different things based on their current wealth status.

Well that article explains why he has such strong support with his voter base. They can all relate to him. Some trans-cat-blue haired starving artist feels a kinship with Bernie the same way those of us that are entrepreneurs that love our families and banging our hot wives feel a kinship with trump.

Post: #204

Bernie Sanders will be the next president.

I bet 5k at 8 to 1 odds a week ago.

I don't actually care, but I'm really pulling for him now.

Post: #205

(02-01-2016 04:23 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  Bernie Sanders will be the next president.

I bet 5k at 8 to 1 odds a week ago.

I don't actually care, but I'm really pulling for him now.

Say goodbye to your 5K. Blacks hate bernie, he has ZERO chance.

Post: #206

^ vvvv This makes me question anything you have ever said or ever will say.

Post: #207

(02-01-2016 04:23 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  Bernie Sanders will be the next president.

I bet 5k at 8 to 1 odds a week ago.

I don't actually care, but I'm really pulling for him now.

I hope that was pesos.

   

Post: #208

I'll quote something I posted in a different thread when explaining why I bet cash money on Sanders:

Quote:Remember the scene in the Godfather II where Michael Corleone is visiting Cuba, and sees a Cuban rebel blow himself up with a grenade, killing an officer in the process, rather than be taken alive? He realizes at that moment that the rebels will win, and decides not to invest with Hyman Roth. He reflects on how the soldiers were paid to fight, but the rebels weren't.

He saw their enthusiasm and momentum.

I had a similar moment of clarity when I watched some video footage of Sanders' supporters. One lady about 50 years old was interviewed. She was some sort of physical therapist/home health aide, making really low pay. She had never donated before, was short on cash, yet had just made a 400 dollar donation to Sanders, and was eager to give more when she scrapped together the cash.

This struck a cord with me, so I looked up Sanders' campaign funding.

People can say all the bullshit they want, but at the end of the day, money is the most reliable indicator of where people's real enthusiasm is.

It turns out Sanders raised 73 million USD in 2015, from over 1 million different donors who made a total of 2.5 million donations.

That tells me he can and will win.

I might be wrong, and maybe I will lose that 5K.

Please note, I don't actually support Sanders. For the most part I don't really care who wins. The only thing that I really am against is Hillary Clinton as president. I think it is ridiculous for the presidency to be passed back and forth between a couple of families. I also think she is a dishonest unqualified cunt. Both Trump and Sanders have oratorical and leadership ability. Trump probably more so. The only thing I dislike about Trump is he seems inclined to more bullshit wars. Seriously, pull the fuck out of these third world shit holes, and use threat of nuclear retaliation to keep the savages in line.

As for blacks hating Sanders, I think they just haven't had much exposure to him. Blacks are disproportionately poor, so I would imagine they would flock to Sanders if it came to him vs Trump. But then again, blacks hate Mexicans and immigrants a lot since they threaten low wage jobs, so maybe Trump will appeal to them.

Post: #209

The enthusiasm is present with both Trump and Sanders. The problem is, that guy in Godfather, he is a Trump supporter, a Bernie supporter is Fredo, weak, two-faced, living off pity and allowances from his more successful brother.

Post: #210

VVVV, how is Trump possibly "inclined to more bullshit wars"?

Quote:Trump: "The world would be a better place with Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein still in power"
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politi...m-hussein/
Trump: "I would have a great cooperation with Putin, whom the USA has turned into a world leader through its abysmal leadership"
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/artic...29295.html
Trump: "I would fire the Bush administration for invading Iraq"
http://www.rense.com/general54/bushs.htm
Trump: "Saudi Arabia only exists because of USA and there is no reason why it should get so much from us"
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...f-the-u-s-
Trump: "Assad might be bad, but USA must stop 'nation-building' and must destroy ISIS, which is the consequence of our destabilizations of Syria and Iraq"
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/...n-building

Post: #211

(02-01-2016 04:44 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  I'll quote something I posted in a different thread when explaining why I bet cash money on Sanders:

Quote:Remember the scene in the Godfather II where Michael Corleone is visiting Cuba, and sees a Cuban rebel blow himself up with a grenade, killing an officer in the process, rather than be taken alive? He realizes at that moment that the rebels will win, and decides not to invest with Hyman Roth. He reflects on how the soldiers were paid to fight, but the rebels weren't.

He saw their enthusiasm and momentum.

I had a similar moment of clarity when I watched some video footage of Sanders' supporters. One lady about 50 years old was interviewed. She was some sort of physical therapist/home health aide, making really low pay. She had never donated before, was short on cash, yet had just made a 400 dollar donation to Sanders, and was eager to give more when she scrapped together the cash.

This struck a cord with me, so I looked up Sanders' campaign funding.

People can say all the bullshit they want, but at the end of the day, money is the most reliable indicator of where people's real enthusiasm is.

It turns out Sanders raised 73 million USD in 2015, from over 1 million different donors who made a total of 2.5 million donations.

That tells me he can and will win.

I might be wrong, and maybe I will lose that 5K.

Please note, I don't actually support Sanders. For the most part I don't really care who wins. The only thing that I really am against is Hillary Clinton as president. I think it is ridiculous for the presidency to be passed back and forth between a couple of families. I also think she is a dishonest unqualified cunt. Both Trump and Sanders have oratorical and leadership ability. Trump probably more so. The only thing I dislike about Trump is he seems inclined to more bullshit wars. Seriously, pull the fuck out of these third world shit holes, and use threat of nuclear retaliation to keep the savages in line.

As for blacks hating Sanders, I think they just haven't had much exposure to him. Blacks are disproportionately poor, so I would imagine they would flock to Sanders if it came to him vs Trump. But then again, blacks hate Mexicans and immigrants a lot since they threaten low wage jobs, so maybe Trump will appeal to them.

I think blacks are finally wising up to the fact that liberals only use them for a voting block. They'd rather these people stay in poverty and effectively buy their votes by promising free things to them. Common core has fucked them, open borders have fucked them, higher taxes fuck them, on and on and on.

Blacks also respond to strong leaders. Hillary has bigger balls than this pussy.

Post: #212

(02-01-2016 05:39 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  VVVV, how is Trump possibly "inclined to more bullshit wars"?

Quote:Trump: "The world would be a better place with Gadaffi and Saddam Hussein still in power"
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/25/politi...m-hussein/
Trump: "I would have a great cooperation with Putin, whom the USA has turned into a world leader through its abysmal leadership"
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/artic...29295.html
Trump: "I would fire the Bush administration for invading Iraq"
http://www.rense.com/general54/bushs.htm
Trump: "Saudi Arabia only exists because of USA and there is no reason why it should get so much from us"
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articl...f-the-u-s-
Trump: "Assad might be bad, but USA must stop 'nation-building' and must destroy ISIS, which is the consequence of our destabilizations of Syria and Iraq"
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/...n-building

Most of that sounds good. Hope he means what he says.

Only two points I didn't quite get -

1. How would he get cooperation from Putin? That guy is a smart motherfucker and has the powers of a dictator, unlike the US president.

2. Why bother fighting ISIS? There is no need for the USA to get involved in the Sunni-Shia religious wars. Especially in a multi year conflict with no end in sight. Let the savages fight it out, whoever wins will still sell their oil on the world market to anyone with cash. If any group of savages, like Saudi Arabia on 9/11, happens to gain the capacity to threaten the US homeland, make it clear that there will be a response with nuclear weapons.

Post: #213

This is what I imagine the average Bernie supporter to be like. You cannot have kids voting. Back in the day 18 year olds had seen tough life experiences, they understood consequences, etc.

These kids will fuck this country over. Their demand for people to pay their "fair share" of the taxes always sounds funny. What exactly is fair? Just an opinion is what it is. I can get behind trying to get corporations to stop keeping money offshore to pay taxes, but to tax people who probably worked harder than these social media obsessed kids more just because they want shit annoys me.

Just a 20 second clip of this kid trying to convince someone to support Bernie. It is about something other than taxes but just his mannerisms and voice.

http://sendvid.com/5g6lxpiz

Time to mute the TV and turn back on Michel Thomas Advanced Russian.

Post: #214

(02-01-2016 09:42 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  This is what I imagine the average Bernie supporter to be like. You cannot have kids voting. Back in the day 18 year olds had seen tough life experiences, they understood consequences, etc.

These kids will fuck this country over. Their demand for people to pay their "fair share" of the taxes always sounds funny. What exactly is fair? Just an opinion is what it is. I can get behind trying to get corporations to stop keeping money offshore to pay taxes, but to tax people who probably worked harder than these social media obsessed kids more just because they want shit annoys me.

Just a 20 second clip of this kid trying to convince someone to support Bernie. It is about something other than taxes but just his mannerisms and voice.

http://sendvid.com/5g6lxpiz

Time to mute the TV and turn back on Michel Thomas Advanced Russian.

I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and I guarantee I don't sound like that. It is discomforting being aligned with the ilk that surrounds Bernie Sanders but aligning yourself with Trump puts you around some questionable people as well.

Post: #215

Any "working class" man who is supporting Bernie should take a look at his tax plan. I gauarantee you that Bernie would actually consider you part of the "very wealthy".

You might be anti-elitist, but Bernie most likely considers you part of the rich elite. Especially if you have a good tight-knit family, didn't take welfare, skimped and saved your money, and especially if you have a small business.

Like I said, see which bracket you fall into in his tax plan. You'll see it's meant to only help those on minimimum wage and welfare.

Post: #216

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:  I am a Bernie Sanders supporter

For what purpose?

The only reason I could think of to vote Sanders is out of spite if you already have another citizenship lined up.

I couldn't imagine voting for him and staying here.

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:  aligning yourself with Trump puts you around some questionable people as well.

It's not even comparable.

Post: #217

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:  I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and I guarantee I don't sound like that. It is discomforting being aligned with the ilk that surrounds Bernie Sanders but aligning yourself with Trump puts you around some questionable people as well.

Tom Brady and Mike Tyson?

Post: #218

Bernie is apparently getting a huge percentage of the youth vote.

One can only assume that full-on socialism is somewhere in the USA's future.

Post: #219

Post: #220

(02-02-2016 10:33 AM)Sir Vigorous Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 09:42 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  This is what I imagine the average Bernie supporter to be like. You cannot have kids voting. Back in the day 18 year olds had seen tough life experiences, they understood consequences, etc.

These kids will fuck this country over. Their demand for people to pay their "fair share" of the taxes always sounds funny. What exactly is fair? Just an opinion is what it is. I can get behind trying to get corporations to stop keeping money offshore to pay taxes, but to tax people who probably worked harder than these social media obsessed kids more just because they want shit annoys me.

Just a 20 second clip of this kid trying to convince someone to support Bernie. It is about something other than taxes but just his mannerisms and voice.

http://sendvid.com/5g6lxpiz

Time to mute the TV and turn back on Michel Thomas Advanced Russian.

I am a Bernie Sanders supporter and I guarantee I don't sound like that. It is discomforting being aligned with the ilk that surrounds Bernie Sanders but aligning yourself with Trump puts you around some questionable people as well.

Why would you be so defensive about a simple post, with a little bit of fun in there? Maybe you don't sound like him but by being this way it seems like you may have more in common with that guy in the video than you want to admit to. You should have just let a random anonymous internet post slide, instead you have shown that a little stupid joke on my part got underneath your skin and you let it show. Hold your frame, don't swing at the pitch.

I hope you can objectively see that I have a point and am trying to help, not trying to just take a cheap shot at you, that isn't my nature.

Only thing I sort of like about Bernie is his desire to bring big banks into some sort of order.

Post: #221

(02-01-2016 06:04 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  2. Why bother fighting ISIS? There is no need for the USA to get involved in the Sunni-Shia religious wars. Especially in a multi year conflict with no end in sight. Let the savages fight it out, whoever wins will still sell their oil on the world market to anyone with cash. If any group of savages, like Saudi Arabia on 9/11, happens to gain the capacity to threaten the US homeland, make it clear that there will be a response with nuclear weapons.

The problem is that under Islam, the presence of a Caliph reactivates huge sections of the Islamic scriptures that are currently lying dormant. For instance, Islam compels its followers to migrate to the territory of a caliph once he is recognized -- which is why thousands of Muslims are now doing just that. It also reactivates a bunch of punishments, such as being required to cut off the hands of thieves, which apparently isn't mandated if there is no caliph in power. It also reactivates expansionism at large. The texts say that if a caliph doesn't at least attempt to expand the territory of the caliphate every year, he should be removed.

Islam is just straight-up dark evil Borg-like shit. Shit getting "reactivated" like in some sci-fi movie.

All that stuff from the left about ISIS being "not real islam" is a bare faced lie. ISIS citizens are required to follow Islam to the letter, and nothing else. Everything they're chanting on TV is direct from scripture, unadulterated. ISIS is an ignition of Islam, not a pervertion, and it needs to be put out now before it reignites the now billion strong of Islam.

Post: #222

If you're going to vote for Bernie may I suggest you take a look at European socialist models with regards to tax and welfare.

The big players get taxed less, the rich move their capital around and the state becomes ever bigger with more staff employed to monitor the welfare state and taxes of ordinary people.

If HM Revenue & Customs makes a mistake it takes months or years for them to give money back. If you make a mistake prepare for 5 figure fines, prison time or repossession.

The US tax system is even worse from what I've read and you want a socialist at the helm making inroads to make society a free for all? It is against the interests of a country, tribe or group to peg it to the lowest denominator who in my experience have literally no need to better themselves or society in order to get ahead because they get guaranteed free stuff.

Why get a cow when the milk is given to you?

My brothers ex GF gets close to or just over £1,000 a week in child and other assorted benefits. She and her boyfriend have not had a job in years. They have 6 kids under one roof, six! We're struggling to reform this system right now before it gets too late.

The US is already in debt up to its eyeballs but socialists don't believe in debt from my experience. They only believe in OPM, Other Peoples Money.

Post: #223

(02-03-2016 12:38 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 06:04 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  2. Why bother fighting ISIS? There is no need for the USA to get involved in the Sunni-Shia religious wars. Especially in a multi year conflict with no end in sight. Let the savages fight it out, whoever wins will still sell their oil on the world market to anyone with cash. If any group of savages, like Saudi Arabia on 9/11, happens to gain the capacity to threaten the US homeland, make it clear that there will be a response with nuclear weapons.

The problem is that under Islam, the presence of a Caliph reactivates huge sections of the Islamic scriptures that are currently lying dormant. For instance, Islam compels its followers to migrate to the territory of a caliph once he is recognized -- which is why thousands of Muslims are now doing just that. It also reactivates a bunch of punishments, such as being required to cut off the hands of thieves, which apparently isn't mandated if there is no caliph in power. It also reactivates expansionism at large. The texts say that if a caliph doesn't at least attempt to expand the territory of the caliphate every year, he should be removed.

Islam is just straight-up dark evil Borg-like shit. Shit getting "reactivated" like in some sci-fi movie.

All that stuff from the left about ISIS being "not real islam" is a bare faced lie. ISIS citizens are required to follow Islam to the letter, and nothing else. Everything they're chanting on TV is direct from scripture, unadulterated. ISIS is an ignition of Islam, not a pervertion, and it needs to be put out now before it reignites the now billion strong of Islam.

Ummm...even without a Caliph, countries like Saudi Arabia and others in the region do all sorts of barbaric shit like cut off people's hands and heads or crucify people (crucification after they are already dead, but still...).

Really, I see no reason whatsoever for a single American life to be lost in that cesspool, or a single dollar to be spent.

Let them live in their own little tenth century hell and follow their barbaric religion to their heart's content.

The only reason the USA gets involved is to advance the economic interests of global trading elites and arms dealers.

The average US citizen is already perfectly safe. You probably have a greater chance of getting eaten by a bear than killed by an Islamic terrorist.

And that's all these savages will ever be. Half bit terrorists who, once in a while, if they get really lucky, can possibly kill a few dozen or few hundred Americans. And when they do this, a response with cruise missiles or bombing is fine. Kill ten of them for one of us. And if they somehow pull off another 9/11, nuke one of their cities, and make it clear that if they ever do that shit again, two Muslim cities will be nuked.

There is ZERO chance that they could ever threaten US territorial integrity or military supremacy.

And in 25-50 years when the oil runs out, their elite will run away to London with stolen wealth, and the countries will go back to herding camels.

Post: #224

Thinking that Radical Islam is not a threat because they are far from the USA is being myopic.

The USA's strategy is based on Kant's "Perpetual Peace" and the idea that similar governing structures promote peace and different governing structures promote conflict.

From here, we see that Islamic countries have a higher tendency towards less civil liberties, autocracy, as well as theocratic rule and socialized economies, which go against , in every line, to the prototype of the western liberal democracy the USA intends to export (sometimes in a contradictory way with some actions I can't understand such as trying to destroy Bashar for other interests...).

The more time passes, the more momentum Islam will rally, and the last time they did this, around some 1000-ish years ago, we can safely say it wasn't pretty AT ALL and they multiplied their religious influence almost tenfold.

Are we really gonna sit this out and let them do it again?

Post: #225

(02-03-2016 10:18 AM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  

(02-03-2016 12:38 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 06:04 PM)VolandoVengoVolandoVoy Wrote:  2. Why bother fighting ISIS? There is no need for the USA to get involved in the Sunni-Shia religious wars. Especially in a multi year conflict with no end in sight. Let the savages fight it out, whoever wins will still sell their oil on the world market to anyone with cash. If any group of savages, like Saudi Arabia on 9/11, happens to gain the capacity to threaten the US homeland, make it clear that there will be a response with nuclear weapons.

The problem is that under Islam, the presence of a Caliph reactivates huge sections of the Islamic scriptures that are currently lying dormant. For instance, Islam compels its followers to migrate to the territory of a caliph once he is recognized -- which is why thousands of Muslims are now doing just that. It also reactivates a bunch of punishments, such as being required to cut off the hands of thieves, which apparently isn't mandated if there is no caliph in power. It also reactivates expansionism at large. The texts say that if a caliph doesn't at least attempt to expand the territory of the caliphate every year, he should be removed.

Islam is just straight-up dark evil Borg-like shit. Shit getting "reactivated" like in some sci-fi movie.

All that stuff from the left about ISIS being "not real islam" is a bare faced lie. ISIS citizens are required to follow Islam to the letter, and nothing else. Everything they're chanting on TV is direct from scripture, unadulterated. ISIS is an ignition of Islam, not a pervertion, and it needs to be put out now before it reignites the now billion strong of Islam.

Ummm...even without a Caliph, countries like Saudi Arabia and others in the region do all sorts of barbaric shit like cut off people's hands and heads or crucify people (crucification after they are already dead, but still...).

Really, I see no reason whatsoever for a single American life to be lost in that cesspool, or a single dollar to be spent.

Let them live in their own little tenth century hell and follow their barbaric religion to their heart's content.

The only reason the USA gets involved is to advance the economic interests of global trading elites and arms dealers.

The average US citizen is already perfectly safe. You probably have a greater chance of getting eaten by a bear than killed by an Islamic terrorist.

And that's all these savages will ever be. Half bit terrorists who, once in a while, if they get really lucky, can possibly kill a few dozen or few hundred Americans. And when they do this, a response with cruise missiles or bombing is fine. Kill ten of them for one of us. And if they somehow pull off another 9/11, nuke one of their cities, and make it clear that if they ever do that shit again, two Muslim cities will be nuked.

There is ZERO chance that they could ever threaten US territorial integrity or military supremacy.

And in 25-50 years when the oil runs out, their elite will run away to London with stolen wealth, and the countries will go back to herding camels.

The only reason Islam is a threat is because we have traitors forcibly importing them into our countries. Otherwise we could ignore them and let them all kill each other.

Instead, they are "refugees" and other bullshit, and they bring war into our lands. Bernie Sanders will bring tons of Muslims into our countries, just like the current Obama administration is doing.

The only guy who is talking about keeping them out is Trump. The only guy talking about a wall is Trump. The only guy who brings up the tough issues is Trump.